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Dáil Éireann debate -
Wednesday, 26 Feb 2014

Vol. 832 No. 2

Allegations in relation to An Garda Síochána: Statements

I wish to commence by stating that initially, Deputy Martin was entirely right to hand over to the Taoiseach last week material he had received from a member of An Garda Síochána, Sergeant Maurice McCabe. The Taoiseach acknowledged that they were serious matters and undertook to review them. Had Deputy Martin's primary motivation been to have these allegations examined, the proper course of action would have been to let the Taoiseach, who made it clear that he was treating the matter as one of the utmost seriousness, proceed with that examination and respond to the Deputy. Instead, Deputy Martin came into this House last Thursday brandishing a document he states was in my possession for two years. What the Deputy's allegations amounted to was that serious allegations against the Garda had not been addressed, that I had done nothing about them and that I had not responded to correspondence from Sergeant McCabe.

The manner in which Deputy Martin presented the matter understandably led most people to believe that the allegations made had never before been addressed, had only arisen since my appointment as Minister and that the cases concerned had only arisen during my time in office. Moreover, he sought to copper-fasten this impression by accusing me of undermining the administration of justice in this State. No timeline was given by Deputy Martin for the cases investigated by An Garda Síochána or which had come before the courts. Moreover, no distinction was made by him between operational matters, which are the responsibility of An Garda Síochána, and policy issues, which are my responsibility, a distinction well understood by my Fianna Fáil predecessors in the justice portfolio.

I intend to demonstrate to the House today that none of Deputy Martin's political charges is true. Deputy Martin has spoken much in recent days about the maladministration of justice. There are of course fundamental principles of justice that are crucial to this State. They concern fundamental constitutional and human rights and the rule of law, which is something to which I have been passionately committed throughout my adult life. As Minister, I cannot opt to respect the rights of one person and ignore the rights of others. Put simply, while of course any allegations of wrongdoing must be taken seriously, allegations are not facts. I cannot proceed on an assumption that allegations made by one member of An Garda Síochána against many of his colleagues are correct and ignore the rights of those against whom allegations are made. This basic principle holds whether we are talking about An Garda Síochána or any other organisation, group or individual.

I have no doubt that many people outside this House must find bewildering the twists and turns regarding what by any standards is a complex set of circumstances but I am sure they clearly understand one thing, namely, allegations are not facts and basic fairness requires that when allegations are made against people, they should not be assumed to be guilty without hearing the other side of the story or without evidence.

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What is crucial is that the evidence for allegations made is carefully and properly examined. Allegations ultimately may be proved to be true, partially true or false. Where false, the original allegation need not be malicious in any way but may derive from a mistaken perception or understanding of events. Life is complicated and not everything is simply black and white. As Minister, I am solemnly bound to protect the rights of all citizens, be they gardaí or anyone else, and to behave at all times in accordance with the laws. I also wish to make clear that I have no animosity towards Sergeant McCabe. I have previously acknowledged that important changes have been implemented with regard to the fixed charge notice system arising from matters raised by Sergeant McCabe. I have absolutely no wish to have a continuing public or indeed private dispute with a serving member of An Garda Síochána. I believe it is of crucial importance that whistleblowers are treated with respect and their allegations taken seriously. I will return at a later stage to one matter relating to the ticket charge issue.

Unfortunately, today a situation has been reached in which other allegations made by Sergeant McCabe have become caught up in partisan and divisive political debate. If all sides of the House can agree on one thing today, surely it is that the legal arrangements for dealing with Garda whistleblowers have failed when these matters are being dealt with across the floor of this House and where the Deputies opposite seek political advantage and apparently do not mind what damage they might do to An Garda Síochána and those who serve in it. In the case of Sinn Féin, I will simply observe that old habits die hard. However, I must state frankly to Deputy Martin that whatever political disagreements I may have had with him or with the Fianna Fáil Party over the years, many of the former statesmen in his party would be appalled by the cavalier attitude he has taken to An Garda Síochána, against which he has made the most serious allegations without waiting to establish the truth or otherwise thereof. I regret, in particular, the lack of regard he has shown to the Office of the Garda Commissioner, which at present is occupied by a person appointed by the Government of which he was a member and which no doubt made the appointment on the basis of its full confidence in him.

In fairness to members of An Garda Síochána, I cannot simply take at face value serious allegations made against them and assume they are guilty until proven innocent. This is not the approach of our legal system and nor is it compatible with concepts of constitutional justice and human rights.

I also have to be careful in my presentation to this House today not to stray into areas that are matters in contention currently between Sergeant McCabe and the State and which are the subject of court proceedings taken by him. I hope Members of the House will appreciate that, during this debate and questions, we all have to respect the existence of two sets of legal proceedings which Sergeant McCabe has taken seeking damages against the State, one set initiated in 2009 which includes the Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform as a named defendant and a second set initiated in 2011 in which the Minister for Justice and Equality is not named as a defendant. In both sets of proceedings the Garda Commissioner is so named.

With regard to the allegations which Deputy Martin made in the House last Thursday and which he has repeated at every opportunity both inside and outside the House since then, I want to deal first with the entirely incorrect assertion that nothing had been done in regard to a series of serious allegations involving Garda misbehaviour. The Garda Síochána Act 2005 - introduced by the then Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform, Michael McDowell, into this House contains clear legal procedures for dealing with alleged misbehaviour by members of An Garda Síochána. I am not going to make much of the fact that the behaviour which Deputy Martin characterised as maladministration of justice took place long before I took office, but the key fact is that all of the cases brought to my attention on 23 January 2012 occurred in the 2007 to 2008 period and they were all addressed under the arrangements which the Government of which he was a member put in place, in light of the findings of the Morris tribunal. Far from nothing being done, it seems to me from my review of the papers relating to this matter, that those procedures were scrupulously observed.

In 2008, Sergeant McCabe made a written complaint to Garda headquarters alleging neglect of duty and other malpractice by gardaí at Bailieboro Garda station, and failure by the superintendent to respond properly when Sergeant McCabe had brought these concerns to his attention. Sergeant McCabe also claimed that he had been victimised. A chief superintendent was appointed to investigate these allegations. Later in 2008, the then Garda Commissioner received an anonymised complaint, which turned out to be from Sergeant McCabe, from the then Garda confidential recipient, Brian McCarthy, making allegations in regard to malpractice at Bailieboro Garda station, and in regard to the failure of senior gardaí at the station to respond to these concerns when they had been brought to their attention. An assistant commissioner was appointed to investigate these allegations.

The allegations covered cases such as the failure to notify a court in a child abduction case that the accused was already on bail facing serious charge; failure to properly investigate several cases; failure to forward a report relating to poor standards and conditions at Bailieboro station; falsification of records; failure to deal with sexual harassment of a female garda; and the giving of a direction to Sergeant McCabe to cease assessing and monitoring probationary gardaí. In 2009, the Garda Commissioner received a further report from the confidential recipient, in which Sergeant McCabe alleged harassment and victimisation arising by the making by him of the first report. Later in 2009, a further report was received from the confidential recipient again relating to harassment. The assistant commissioner, along with the chief superintendent, was appointed to investigate these allegations too.

In case Deputy Martin is concerned that this was not the correct procedure, it might be helpful to point out that Sergeant McCabe in 2009 wrote to the then Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform, Dermot Ahern, alerting him to the fact that he had made a complaint about malpractice and corruption in the Bailieboro Garda district. In this letter, Sergeant McCabe claimed that although a preliminary report into his complaint had revealed bad practice and procedure, the chief superintendent of the division had publicly rubbished the complaint, and the sergeant called on the Minister to ask for an independent person to oversee the investigation. The Minister replied, through his private secretary, that the conduct of the investigation was a matter for the Garda Commissioner, in accordance with the Garda Síochána Act 2005, that the Minister had no role in directing the Commissioner in such operational matters, and that, in the circumstances, the most appropriate action was to allow the Commissioner to complete his work and let due process take its course. I want to make it absolutely clear that I am not criticising the response of my predecessor to Sergeant McCabe although I accept, of course, that it might have been helpful to Deputy Martin if he had been aware of it.

The investigation by the assistant commissioner over a lengthy period culminated in the submission of ten volumes of evidence to the Director of Public Prosecutions, DPP, who - of course independently - directed that no prosecutions were warranted.

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Members should please allow me to act as the Chair. I thank them very much.

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The investigation did result in disciplinary action against a number of gardaí. It is very important to note that under the legal procedures in place, the confidential recipient and, crucially, the Garda Síochána Ombudsman were informed of these matters. The thinking behind the provisions of the 2005 Act was this: the Garda Síochána Ombudsman was to be advised by the Garda Commissioner of complaints received by the confidential recipient so that it could initiate its own investigation in the public interest if it considered it warranted doing so. The fact that this could happen would also act as a form of what might be termed "quality control" in regard to any Garda investigation. The Garda Síochána Ombudsman Commission, GSOC, was informed in June 2010 of the progress of the assistant commissioner's investigation and, shortly afterwards, of the decision by the DPP. While GSOC dealt with a small number of relevant complaints which had been made to it - and which I will deal with in a moment - it does not appear to have felt it necessary to take any further action.

The commission at the time comprised Mr. Dermot Gallagher, Mr. Conor Brady and Ms Carmel Foley. Again, I am voicing no criticism of them as to how they dealt with this matter, but the essential facts are these: the allegations were dealt with under the procedures in place at the time, and the confidential recipient, the DPP and the Garda Síochána Ombudsman Commission fulfilled their statutory roles in regard to them. I doubt that any fair-minded observer would regard these as a set of allegations about which nothing had been done. I doubt that Deputy Martin would have come into the Dáil Chamber in 2009 or 2010 and made such charge against former Minister, Dermot Ahern, and accused him of undermining the administration of justice in the State.

I think it is only fair to note too that while many of the allegations referred to possible shortcomings in Garda investigations, and there were some shortcomings or failures identified, nevertheless a number ultimately resulted in successful prosecutions and convictions. For the sake of completeness, I should mention also that there were complaints from Sergeant McCabe of alleged assault and imprisonment against the assistant commissioner who conducted the investigation. This, in turn, was investigated by a deputy commissioner who submitted a file to the DPP who directed no prosecution.

Of course, I understand that Sergeant McCabe did not accept the outcome of these investigations and that is his right. However, I am sure the House will appreciate that there is no mechanism that can guarantee all complainants will be at all times fully satisfied with the outcome of all investigations. What is important is that there are procedures in place to deal with allegations and, as I have pointed out, the procedures put in place by the previous Government with regard to all of these matters were followed. Over three weeks ago I announced that I intended to introduce reforms to the current statutory provisions and procedures because from my experience of them I had concluded they were deeply flawed. That was before any of the recent controversies arose.

This brings me to the question of contacts between Sergeant McCabe and my Department and, in particular, the allegation that I took no action in regard to correspondence received from him. On 23 January 2012, I received a report from the then Garda confidential recipient, Mr. Oliver Connolly, attaching a letter which had been anonymised but which turned out to be from Sergeant McCabe and which included 12 allegations against a named superintendent, for either direct wrongdoing or not dealing properly with wrongdoing, a complaint against the assistant commissioner for the alleged assault and false imprisonment previously mentioned, and a complaint against the Garda Commissioner for permitting the named superintendent to be on a panel for promotion to chief superintendent in circumstances where the Garda Commissioner knew, or ought to have known of, the alleged wrongdoing of the superintendent. Not only were there accusations of malpractice but also of corruption in that gardaí were generally accused of engaging in falsifying records, erasing official records, erasing reported incidents, destroying and altering official records, covering up serious investigations and “gross dereliction of duty on a massive scale”. In fairness to the rights of everyone involved I want to emphasise that these were - at the time - anonymous allegations and they should not be taken as evidence of anything.

I should explain that reports from the confidential recipient are only forwarded to me where an allegation is made against the Commissioner. I took the letter so seriously that on 24 January, the following day, my Secretary General, at my request, wrote to the Garda Commissioner seeking an urgent report. The Commissioner's detailed response, received by me on 30 January, described the investigations that had been undertaken and the chronology of events and explained that, of the 12 allegations against the superintendent, 11 had already been dealt with as part of the investigation by the assistant commissioner and chief superintendent. In other words, the January 2012 letter from Sergeant McCabe restated these 11 complaints which had already been dealt with under the statutory confidential recipient scheme. The Commissioner also explained that the 12th allegation in the January 2012 letter related to a case of "child pornography and rape of a minor in September, 2007 where the offender was a priest" and which came before the District Court.

The report went on to explain that this investigation centred on offensive and inappropriate behaviour with a 14 year old boy and that it was apparent that the investigation was efficiently and speedily carried out, resulting in the priest being convicted and sentenced to five year concurrent sentences. The assurances I received were essentially to the effect that these matters had been fully investigated in accordance with the law in place at the time. On 7 February, I wrote to the confidential recipient and informed him of the response of the Garda Commissioner.

To support the political charge he levied against me, Deputy Martin saw fit to draw attention to cases involving a serious assault on Mrs. Mary Lynch and the brutal killing of Mrs. Sylvia Roche Kelly, which offences occurred in 2007. I certainly do not wish to add to the trauma and distress which has been caused by these events by having these cases the subject of public attention again, but it is important to set the record straight. In particular, Deputy Martin again raised yesterday in this House the murder of Sylvia Roche Kelly and its impact on all of her family. It would be entirely wrong to leave unchallenged Deputy Martin's inference that nothing has been done to address concerns about the Garda handling of these cases.

The House may be aware that Lorcan Roche Kelly, the bereaved husband of Sylvia Roche Kelly, initiated High Court legal proceedings against the State in February 2009, so the State has been aware of particular issues related to her murder since 2009. This is in addition to the State’s awareness of such issues in the context of the broader investigation into her tragic death and prosecution of the perpetrator. Of course, I do not want to say anything which would in any way prejudice those current High Court proceedings. I do, however, want to extend my sympathy to Lorcan Roche Kelly and to all of the late Sylvia Roche Kelly’s family on their terrible loss in dreadful circumstances. I hope there is some comfort in knowing that the individual responsible is presently serving a term of life imprisonment.

Deputy Martin talked of the need for an independent inquiry into matters that have understandably been raised by Mr. Roche Kelly. In June 2009, he lodged a complaint with the Garda Síochána Ombudsman Commission to the effect that there was neglect of duty on the part of gardaí in Tipperary and Cavan-Monaghan whom he believed failed to liaise properly in order to ensure that the relevant District Court was suitably advised that a person was on bail for other very serious offences when that person appeared before the District Court on another serious charge.

The Garda Síochána Ombudsman Commission initiated an investigation and, in the light of its investigation, subsequently referred the matter to An Garda Síochána on the basis that the matter should be considered as a less serious breach of discipline in regard to two gardaí. A designated superintendent, having investigated the case, decided that there was insufficient evidence to find either member in breach of discipline. While I do not wish to underestimate in any way the seriousness of what happened, the judgment of an independent body, GSOC, was that what was at issue was a less serious breach of discipline and I am advised GSOC did not make any finding under its statutory provisions of Garda misconduct.

I hope Deputy Martin and other Members can accept that GSOC was the appropriate independent body to adjudicate on this matter. In fact, the bereaved husband wrote to the then Minister, Dermot Ahern, in 2009 about this distressing case. In one of his replies, sent through his private secretary, the then Minister expressed his sympathy and explained how a complaint could be made to the Garda Síochána Ombudsman Commission. Like everyone in this House, I share and understand the concerns that have been voiced in regard to this matter, but it seems that Deputy Martin was unaware of the complaint made to GSOC and its determination and I suspect also unaware that Lorcan Roche Kelly had been in correspondence with my predecessor Mr. Dermot Ahern. I am sure that if Deputy Martin had been aware of this, he might have taken a more considered approach to that taken in this House on Thursday last and again yesterday.

I want to extend my deep sympathy also to Mary Lynch, who was the victim of a very serious assault. Subsequent to an individual being charged with that assault, he was charged with a further serious offence and granted bail by the District Court. A serious issue arose as to the adequacy of the information furnished to the District Court by An Garda Síochána at the time bail was granted, while I am advised that the bail application was vigorously opposed. Our courts are independent and such decisions are a matter for them. I do not feel it appropriate that I further address this matter as, while GSOC discontinued a complaint from Mary Lynch - because it was out of time - about aspects of how her case was treated, I understand from what she has said publicly that she currently has another complaint before GSOC and I do not want to say anything that would be regarded as prejudicing the outcome of this complaint. It is, however, clear to me from a complaint properly made by Mary Lynch that there was a failure by An Garda Síochána to inform her of the hearing and determination in the District Court of the criminal prosecution taken against the individual who assaulted her. While the court imposed two concurrent nine month sentences on the individual concerned, she should have had the opportunity to be present in court. I am advised that, prior to my time as Minister, as a result of the failure to advise Mary Lynch to be present in the District Court on the day when a plea of guilty was entered by the defendant in her case and sentence imposed, An Garda Síochána internally addressed this failure.

It is of considerable importance that the victims of crime are kept properly informed of progress made in the investigation and prosecution of their case and I am greatly concerned by any case where there is a failure to keep a victim informed. In this context, when in opposition, I brought forward in both 2002 and 2008, victims' rights Bills to impose a statutory duty on gardaí to inform victims of trial dates. Unfortunately, in 2008 when Deputy Martin was a senior Government Minister, his Government chose to vote down that measure. Such legislation is currently under preparation in my Department and will incorporate within it provisions regarding victims of crime which are now incorporated in an EU directive. I expect that legislation will come before this House in 2015.

I do not intend to go into any detail today about correspondence with Sergeant McCabe about penalty points. This issue has been referred to GSOC and we should let it get on with its work.

I do, however, want to deal with the charge that I misled this House by claiming that Sergeant McCabe had not co-operated with the investigation carried out by Assistant Commissioner John O'Mahoney. I expected that Sergeant McCabe would fully engage as a member of An Garda Síochána with Assistant Commissioner O’Mahoney’s investigation team and that he would be interviewed. These are operational matters in which no Minister for Justice should interfere and, of course, any such interference would be rightly subject to public criticism. I have no interest in continuing contention with Sergeant McCabe about this matter, but the House will appreciate I cannot leave a charge of misleading it stand. I do not think it is disputed, following the furnishing to the O’Mahoney investigation team of formal allegations and documentation, which originated from Sergeant McCabe and former Garda Wilson, that there was no engagement between either Garda member with the investigation team before Assistant Commissioner O'Mahoney completed his report. What is at issue is an interpretation of events which preceded publication of that report.

In what I said to the House, I relied on material which I received detailing the content of a direction given to Sergeant McCabe on a related matter, which included inviting him to participate in the O’Mahoney investigation and the fact that a letter had been sent from an official of my Department in December 2012 which, specifically, advised Sergeant McCabe that any further information which might be helpful to the investigation should be brought by him to the attention of his authorities within the force. This letter is one of a number of letters exchanged by my Department either directly with Sergeant McCabe or with his solicitors. The situation is further complicated by the fact that between the finalisation of the O'Mahoney report and its publication, he declined to take up an offer from Assistant Commissioner O'Mahoney to meet with a member of his investigation team. Had such a meeting taken place and some additional matters arisen of relevance to the investigation, I could have been notified of any amendment required to be made to the report undertaken and its publication could have been delayed.

Clearly there is a difference of views and perception between An Garda Síochána and Sergeant McCabe with regard to this issue. I have explained the basis on which I made my statement and I can take it no further. However, I want to make it clear, because of some public comment that has been made, that there is no basis for the suggestion that the Garda Commissioner in any way misled me on this matter. Nor is there any basis for an allegation that I in any way misled the House. I appreciate that different Members of the House may perceive these matters differently. It is unfortunate that perceptions are coloured on occasion by political differences.

There is one further set of allegations made by Sergeant McCabe which, for completeness, I should mention. On 4 September 2012, solicitors for Sergeant McCabe wrote to me enclosing three booklets of documentation containing multiple allegations of Garda wrongdoing and requesting the establishment of a special inquiry, under section 42 of the Garda Síochána Act 2005. Some of these allegations related to penalty points and there was a cross-over with some of the earlier allegations I have mentioned. The correspondence was marked strictly private and confidential. On 18 October, my office wrote to the solicitors seeking confirmation that they had no objection to the booklets being forwarded to the Garda Commissioner for his observations. Clearly, I could not decide to establish a statutory inquiry without being aware of all the facts. My office also asked the solicitors to forward copies of PULSE records referred to in the documentation which had not been enclosed. When by 22 November no response had been received, a further reminder was sent to the solicitors by my office.

A further reminder was sent by my office on 3 January 2013. I think it is clear that if I was intent on ignoring allegations by Sergeant McCabe, I would not have been so assiduous in trying to elicit responses from his solicitors.

At that stage, the solicitors replied saying that all the information had been provided to the office of the Department of the Taoiseach which had forward it to the Department of Justice and Equality. In turn, my office replied on 11 March 2013, pointing out the documentation provided to the Department of the Taoiseach related to different allegations, and again asked for the condition of confidentiality to be lifted to enable the matter to be pursued. On 1 May 2013, a further letter was received from the solicitors requesting a copy of the O'Mahony report and repeating the assertion that the records had been provided. Again on 22 May 2013, my office replied seeking a waiver of confidentiality. I do not know why the waiver of confidentiality requested was not forthcoming. However, I was properly conscious of the fact Sergeant McCabe had expressed serious concerns about the observance of privacy and confidentiality in relation to other correspondence, and that he would expect that to be respected. What is clear is that I did everything possible to try to move this issue forward, taking into account Sergeant McCabe's position on the matter. I very much welcome the fact that I will be able to provide this documentation to Mr. Sean Guerin SC.

While preserving the confidentiality requested by Sergeant McCabe, some of the issues raised by him revisited some of the matters of relevance to the earlier correspondence with the confidential recipient, and in this context, my Secretary General wrote again to the Garda Commissioner in late December 2012, as Sergeant McCabe had revisited some of these matters and he received a further detailed response from the Garda Commissioner in February 2013. This correspondence will also be provided to Mr. Guerin.

I can only assume that had Deputy Martin been aware of the extent of both my engagement, and my Department officials' engagement, in issues arising from allegations contained in the letter received by me on 23 January 2012, and had he known of the events that had taken place in the preceding years, the charge he made against me would not have been made.

This brings me to the series of decisions which we took in Cabinet yesterday. We did so against the background that the procedures for dealing with both whistleblowers and complaints, which I inherited under the Garda Síochána Act 2005, had not operated in a way which had fully addressed the complex circumstances of this particular case. It was also our considered view that these matters could not be adequately addressed in this Chamber or in an Oireachtas committee. Therefore, what we decided yesterday is designed not just to address this particular set of allegations but to look to the future to avoid this type of situation arising again.

Before this controversy erupted, I had already stated that, as far as I was concerned, the confidential recipient arrangements were not working. The Government approved my proposals yesterday to allow for legislation in tandem with the Protected Disclosures Bill 2013, sponsored by the Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform, to allow gardaí to make complaints directly to GSOC. Pending the early enactment of that legislation, we will be appointing an interim confidential recipient. Mr. Sean Guerin SC is undertaking an assessment of issues and allegations from Sergeant McCabe since 2008. He is being asked to report his findings before the Easter recess and to make recommendations. The report will be published immediately, and if he recommends a commission of inquiry, there will be one. The justice committee will have hearings on Garda accountability arrangements and will, in particular, consider the amendments required to be made to the Garda Síochána Act 2005 with regard to the workings of GSOC.

Members opposite maintain that a commission of inquiry is needed immediately. Deputy Martin and others clearly did so without knowing all the facts. It seems among the facts that Deputy Martin did not know was that both Sergeant McCabe and Lorcan Roche Kelly had each written to his former colleague in the previous Government, the former Minister for Justice and Equality, Mr. Dermot Ahern, whom I do not hold at fault in any way. I believe that the approach announced by the Taoiseach yesterday and agreed in Cabinet is the right course initially and there remains the possibility, following on from the consideration given to all these matters in the report by Mr. Sean Guerin, that an independent statutory inquiry may be required. Equally it may not, and I do not wish to prejudge that issue. It is entirely a matter for Mr. Guerin in his conclusions.

My concern is, as always, that the full truth is known. From Deputy Martin’s contribution in this House last Thursday and his dramatic appearance on the plinth last Wednesday, he raised these very important issues as if they were entirely new, had never arisen during his term in the previous Government and had never been addressed either by the confidential recipient, An Garda Síochána or GSOC. He falsely accused me of undermining the administration of justice, a charge which I entirely reject. It has been a central personal commitment of my entire adult life that we have the best system possible to administer justice in the State, and for many years during my period in this House, it was Deputy Martin’s party that obstinately opposed and delayed the implementation of crucial reform and the modernisation of our criminal justice system. A commitment to the rule of law and to the principle that individuals are innocent until proven guilty is a central feature and a proven principle of this democracy which should not be overthrown by any Member of this House seeking political gain.

Of course it is crucial that An Garda Síochána adheres to the highest standards, that public confidence is maintained in the force and that it does not operate under a cloud of suspicion. It is also crucial that there is public confidence in our independent oversight structure designed to investigate allegations of Garda wrongdoing. That is why, over three weeks ago and prior to any of the controversies, I announced my intention to abolish the office of the confidential recipient and to reform the Garda Síochána Act 2005 in respect of provisions applicable to GSOC. I thank my Cabinet colleagues for their support for these crucial reforms which were a priority previous to the events of the last two weeks.

I hope that the processes we have put in place will deal effectively with any wrongdoing, but also avoid clouds of suspicion being allowed linger unfairly. I look forward to the report of Mr. Sean Guerin and, like my colleagues in Government, I am fully committed to our taking any action necessary on foot of that report.

I welcome the fact that Dáil Éireann has been allowed to hold a debate on a matter of grave public importance. Nothing is more important to the work we are elected to do than ensuring all officers of the State work to protect the public and promote justice for all. Throughout history, a core foundation of democracy has been a willingness to question those who are given the power to administer justice. There is no police force in the world that is completely free from problems and there never will be. I have no doubt a significant reason Ireland is now one of the world’s older democracies has been the success of An Garda Síochána. It has built and maintained public confidence through the most challenging of situations, in particular when faced with a private army which viewed itself as the real State and the ongoing struggle against lawless gangs who seek to terrorise too many communities. It is a tribute to the Garda that throughout the country people are protesting against the Government’s policy of downgrading the links between gardaí and the communities they serve.

We should all reject absolutely the idea that to raise concerns is in any way to question the work of the force a whole, something the Minister again did in the initial part of his speech. When serious questions arise, public representatives and the Government we elect have a duty to ensure they are comprehensively and objectively investigated. In fact, the only way of protecting the standing of the force is to have public trust that failings are actively being sought and dealt with. We have a duty to act in such a way as to encourage people with evidence of wrongdoing to come forward. Over the years we have all learned there are no institutions beyond criticism, scrutiny and accountability, and that is what a healthy democracy represents. In this House, we have also learned that setting up an independent inquiry can actually assist with maintaining confidence in the justice system.

The basic background to this debate is that serious questions have arisen on a number of fronts and there is no faith that they have been handled properly. That is the bottom line. The announcement yesterday of a review of one aspect of the controversy comes two years on from the issues being raised, and after weeks of delay and denial. This is the Government that, when elected three years ago, promised to value, encourage and protect whistleblowers as part of its claimed democratic revolution. The evidence available to us, however, is that efforts have been made at various levels to dampen if not squash allegations that were made about some past activities within the Garda. Other matters concerning the possible bugging of GSOC and the dismissal of the Garda confidential recipient are absolutely linked to the whistleblower allegations, because they form a central element of how the Government is undermining public trust in a vital part of the administration of justice.

In recent weeks the Minister for Justice and Equality has continually failed to meet the basic test of handling serious allegations effectively. His response and the responses of his colleagues have been to try to end the controversy rather than deal with it. The ongoing campaign to try to blame the previous government is as cynical as it is pathetic. The number of Fine Gael Deputies attacking the messenger suggests that the party is co-ordinating this effort.

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The Deputy is trying to rewrite history.

These attempts to distract from the serious allegations made have not worked and will not work. The Minister knows that the former Minister, Dermot Ahern, never got the dossier the current Minister received.

The circumstances are not comparable in any shape or form, yet the Minister wants to go down the road of distraction. After a week's silence, the Minister gave a few exclusive comments to one journalist last night in which he signalled he would go on the attack today and had been trawling in his Department all week for evidence to support his case. Only the most gullible will accept, having listened to the Minister this morning, that he tried to give a balanced and fair view of the record. He has a proven track record of selective quotations and has been driven constantly by an obsessive need to justify himself. There is no reason to believe he has given the House a full and balanced picture of what is in the Department's files.

While the Minister believes he has been smeared because others had the nerve to question him, he should remember that the Taoiseach explicitly stated that I have handled this matter responsibly. He must also face the inconvenient fact that while he announced today that he has reviewed the matter and found he was right in everything he has done, the Cabinet stated yesterday that the matter needed to be reviewed externally. That is a significant point, as it is the view of the Cabinet, in particular, the Taoiseach, having read the dossier. Does the Minister expect us to believe that when the Taoiseach and Tánaiste refer to the issues involved as "grave" and state they cannot make up their minds who to believe and the matter needs external review and possibly an investigation, they do so because they believe everything is fine?

There is substantive evidence that there is an ongoing and profound problem in how allegations of improper behaviour in the Garda are handled. A culture of deep suspicion has developed, meaning that the relationships between the Minister, the Garda Commissioner, the Office of the Confidential Recipient and the Garda Síochána Ombudsman Commission are at best dysfunctional and at worst actively subverting the goal of dealing with allegations of improper behaviour. The Minister and Garda Commissioner have admitted that these relations are poor. An atmosphere that leads the Garda Síochána Ombudsman Commission to hire a British company to screen its offices for bugs is one in which the public interest is not being served.

The paperwork around this review is being reviewed by a former High Court judge, despite the fact that the Minister did his level best to dismiss these concerns out of hand. It remains a disgrace that he refused to consult the Oireachtas on the terms of the review and that Mr. Justice Cooke is not being allowed to check evidence. It is now a consistent tactic of the Government that when a Minister is caught in a crisis, as occurs with increasing frequency, the first priority is to manage the media rather than the issue. We have seen this approach in operation in recent weeks.

Before today, the Minister was unavailable to the public whereas active behind-the-scenes briefing was taking place non-stop. While this debate is welcome, Members have not been supplied with any of the documents the Minister used to try to undermine the allegations and attack others. If the Minister had intended this debate to be a genuine effort to allow questioning, he would have circulated the relevant reports, especially the report of the Garda Inspectorate, and supplied a briefing to the Opposition. He could also have provided access to the files he has used to formulate today’s attack but of course chose not to do so. Why would he allow anyone the chance to answer back?

From early yesterday evening, the Government was briefing the media that the Minister would come into the House with all guns blazing and had the evidence to back up his case. If he was so secure in this, why has he failed to let anyone else see the evidence? Why has he again insisted on trying to deny a fair debate?

For three years, the Minister has adopted the strategy that attack is the only form of defence.

Attack and hide.

He has consistently refused to even contemplate the idea that he could be wrong and repeatedly impugned the integrity of any Deputy, Senator, journalist or member of the public who has challenged him. In recent days, his Government colleagues have chosen to circle the wagons around him by hyping his record and claiming he is always reasonable.

The Minister does not recognise the legitimacy of any criticism. When challenged he is sometimes snide, frequently partisan and always dismissive. Within weeks of his appointment he started as he intended to continue by withholding from the Dáil essential information about the progress of the Smithwick tribunal. While pushing through a guillotined Bill to limit the time for the tribunal’s work, the Minister withheld essential correspondence with Judge Smithwick. When this was exposed, he attacked anyone who questioned him.

Crucially, the Minister did exactly the same thing when he appointed his friend and donor as Garda confidential recipient nearly three years ago. His speech this morning was remarkable in that he was silent on the entire episode pertaining to the confidential recipient. At the time of the appointment of the confidential recipient, he went as far as describing as "despicable" anyone questioning whether the appointment was appropriate. In 2011, it was put to the Minister that appointing a friend and donor meant the confidential recipient might not be able to act fully independently of the Minister and that, at a minimum, his performance of that role would be influenced by his connection with the Minister. These fears have been fully realised.

The Minister’s decision to fire Mr. Connolly has shown that he is willing to lay down his friends to protect himself. It is not true that the transcript which Deputy Mick Wallace and I brought to public attention clears the Minister. Incidentally, the confidential recipient informed Sergeant Maurice McCabe that he fully believed him, before he handed the relevant material to the Minister. What the transcript confirms again and again is that Mr. Connolly and the Minister were in regular contact about the allegations. It includes a direct statement by the Minister's friend and donor that the Minister might not be acting fully independently of the Garda Commissioner. It appears from the statement the Minister released from Greece and about which he did not answer any questions that Mr. Connolly was fired because he told a whistleblower, "if Shatter thinks you’re screwing him you’re finished". This statement has been described by various Government sources as an outrageous reflection on the Minister, one which made inevitable Mr. Connolly's departure from his position. At no stage was Mr. Connolly given the opportunity to give his side of the story. He is quoted in the transcript, which is clearly authentic, as saying the following to Sergeant McCabe:

Shatter would have read your report in detail, I know he did, he communicated with me and he will have read all of your exhibits, which I actually labelled them numbered one to nine in the actual in the order they were highlighted so he did know. And you know I redacted, the only thing I redacted was your name. Alan studied everything in fact I know he did.

Before today, the Minister's only comment about the transcript was made on 6 February, which was before he saw it. When one reads the dossier the cases jump out at one. There is, therefore, no point in creating a smokescreen about there being ten dossiers and so forth. I met the mother, sisters and brother of Sylvia Roche Kelly. They were not told anything and they were certainly not told about the totality and sequencing of that entire episode, from the abduction and savage beating of Mary Lynch, to the abduction of a five year old child in Dundrum to the savage murder of Sylvia Roche Kelly. While I accept that the following question is a subjective judgment, I ask the Minister if he asked any questions about what happened or the sequence of events in that case.

Did the Deputy ask any questions at the time?

Yes, I just sent the dossier to the Taoiseach.

(Interruptions).

I ask Deputies to please stop asking questions and interrupting.

Similar cases arose previously, one of which led to the Morris tribunal. The previous Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform, Mr. Dermot Ahern, also established an inquiry into the Noel Keegan case. It is not unprecedented for Ministers, when they see material of this gravity and nature, to take the exceptional step of establishing an independent inquiry to obtain full answers.

The Minister referred briefly to the Mary Lynch case being held in a District Court and diminished the issue by saying he believed in supportive measures for victims. This is not about victims alone, important though that is. The central point-----

Was it discussed when Deputy Martin was in government?

No, it was not. The Minister should stop that nonsense; this matter is too serious.

(Interruptions).

Please allow the Deputy to continue without interruption.

A family in Limerick is devastated.

I am not worried about who discussed what.

I would appreciate if the Deputy would get on with his statement.

When I was presented with this for the first time it was clear that it raised very serious issues.

Before the Minister tried to distract me, I was about to raise the core question of whether failings ultimately lead to the murder of Sylvia Roche Kenny. Perhaps that murder could have been prevented. That is a difficult statement to make. I did not want to discuss these matters in detail in the House but I have details of all the cases. The Taoiseach described the issue as grave for that reason. In one case, a young woman who was savagely beaten received €150 - €50 from each attacker.

The Minister should speak to the family to find out how they feel about it.

In another case, a man was savagely beaten and the case was not entered in the PULSE system for nine months. That is the point. We can dress up the issue or create smokescreens all we like, but the quality of internal investigations is at stake.

It is not unprecedented in terms of the Morris tribunal or beyond belief that things could have gone wrong. The cases involved are grave. I sent that information to the Taoiseach rather than go down a different route and let it end up in the public domain, which would have been wrong and prejudicial to the rights and entitlements of other people who are mentioned in the dossier. I did not do that. I studiously avoided doing so. That is the reason for the decision taken by the Taoiseach.

In terms of the approach of the Minister, Deputy Shatter, attacking people is his standard operating procedure. The Minister saw nothing wrong with his using a confidential brief from the Garda Commissioner to falsely attack a Deputy of this House. He still does not see any wrong in that. The Minister has expressed disinterest in how information about a Deputy was leaked to try to discredit him. I could go on in terms of the Minister's own situation in relation to breath testing and so on but I will not do so.

Where did that file go?

We are talking about a process.

What we are dealing with here is not an isolated example. This is not a consistent pattern of behaviour built up over three years. For Fine Gael to defend one of its own is not surprising, but the length to which the Labour Party is willing to accept this becomes more incredible by the day.

If the contents of the transcript are serious enough for Mr. Connolly to be fired, then they are more than serious enough for the position of the Minister, Deputy Shatter, to be untenable. All the transcript does is reveal how we have been operating. A week on from its publication, not one factual statement contained therein has been rebutted. To say that it was proposed to abolish that office anyway is a ridiculous defence, particularly as the Minister, during his three years as Minister for Justice and Equality, has been indifferent to the treatment of the Garda Síochána Ombudsman Commission, GSOC, and its reports. The manner in which the Government and the Minister have established a review into the possible bugging of GSOC again suggests that the Minister has prejudged the issue. Of course, he did. He has self-judged documents which involved a conflict of evidence, but has provided Mr. Guerin with no means of testing that conflict of evidence. While Government Deputies constantly refer to an investigation, it is nothing of the sort. The Minister has refused to consult on the terms of the review, even sending out spokespersons to ridicule the idea that he would let a Labour Party colleague oversee a statement.

The Minister, in his evidence to the Joint Committee on Public Service Oversight and Petitions last week, said there is a conflict of technical evidence which he is not competent to judge, even though that is what he has repeatedly done in trying to bury the entire controversy. Now, as before, an inquiry which is allowed to interview people and seek evidence is the only way of comprehensively and finally dealing with the issue. The eagerness of some to use the fact that GSOC carried out the sweep for bugs to attack the Commission, seek resignations and threaten the continued withholding of access to basic Garda information is striking. This is another issue on which the Minister and Government are silent. The fact that GSOC recommendations on misconduct cases are being ignored has been known for two years. The Minister has only now, and under pressure, shown any interest in this. Fianna Fáil strongly supports the protection of the independence of GSOC. Deputy Niall Collins has published a Bill to allow for the strengthening of GSOC, which will be brought before the House as a Private Members' Bill. If the Government is sincere in its new found concern for GSOC, it will support this legislation.

In bringing the whistleblower allegations to the attention of the Taoiseach, I have been careful not to make specific allegations against identifiable persons. I have been very conscious of the fact that not all of the allegations made to the Morris tribunal were sustained and that we have an obligation to do what we can to allow people due process. The Minister, Deputy Howlin, addressed this issue in his speech at the conclusion of the Morris tribunal when he said it was absurd to expect the Deputy to investigate allegations before seeking their investigation. I welcome the Taoiseach's acknowledgement of the appropriate manner in which I have handled this matter, although the comments of some of his colleagues are partisan politics at its worst. Even though the Government has chosen to commence a review and the Taoiseach has said he is willing to consider going much further, the approach of the Minister has again been to effectively rubbish the idea that there is anything to be concerned about. He has spent the last week reviewing files not open to others and has come in here to declare that he has handled everything well and there is nothing to be concerned about. If that is the case, why is there to be a review? Did the Government actually decide that because everything is fine there is a need for a review process? The Taoiseach said yesterday that he does not know who to believe. The Minister, Deputy Shatter, continually says that everybody believes him.

He is infallible.

The appointment yesterday of Mr. Guerin is an acknowledgement that there is a legitimate reason for concern. Limiting his work to a review and placing on his shoulders the decision regarding the establishment of a full investigation is wrong. I believe his role should be to scope out the basis for such an investigation.

There is a sense that this review is either a search for a way out or a genuine approach to establish a commission of investigation. I wish Mr. Guerin well and hope he is able to produce a substantive report and guide a future investigation.

The allegations contained in the documents I have seen and the concerns which have been expressed to me by a number of people, including Sergeant McCabe and the family of Sylvia Roche Kelly, are so serious and grave that the only way to deal firmly with them is a full inquiry. This will not change.

A related issue is the repeated claim of the Minister that Sergeant McCabe refused to co-operate with the inquiry of Assistant Commissioner O'Mahoney into his allegations about the handling of penalty points. For some reason, still unclear, the Minister has chosen to specifically criticise and stand by that criticism of Sergeant McCabe. He even criticised him in the Dáil and has spent the past week trying to justify it. The Minister's speech this morning was notable. He does not have the humility to say sorry or-----

He does not do sorry.

-----admit that he got it wrong. It transpires that in this entire episode the Minister was the only person who accused Sergeant Maurice McCabe of not co-operating with Assistant Commissioner O'Mahoney's report. Nobody else made that assertion. Assistant Commissioner O'Mahoney did not make that assertion. Nowhere is it to be found in his report. If Sergeant McCabe had not co-operated, he would have been subject to internal Garda disciplinary action. The Minister's behaviour on this one was appalling.

It brings to mind the comments of the confidential recipient: "If Shatter thinks you're screwing him, he'll come after you." Sergeant McCabe has remarked to me that Mr. Connolly was telling the truth in that the Minister, Deputy Shatter, did go after him. This was five weeks after a complaint was made to SIPO. Why did the Minister say that Sergeant McCabe did not co-operate? Why did he state something that is fundamentally untrue? Executives of the Road Safety Authority, to which the Cabinet referred the O'Mahoney report, told the Minister during meetings with him that Sergeant McCabe had not been approached or interviewed, but the Minister argued that he had been. He was not and the Minister knows that. Nobody from the investigation team contacted by text, e-mail or telephone Sergeant McCabe in the context of his being interviewed in relation to that inquiry. That is the bottom line. The Road Safety Authority wrote to the Minister for Transport, Tourism and Sports, Deputy Varadkar, highlighting all of the failings of the O'Mahoney report, the chief failing being a failure to interview the whistleblowers. This is not something of which the Minister was not aware. This was a live issue for about six months, in particular from April to May of last year. The whistleblower also wrote to the Taoiseach. The Minister, Deputy Shatter, knowing the whistleblower had not been interviewed, told the Taoiseach whether or not he was interviewed was an operational matter and that he would not be getting involved. He then came into the Dáil in October and accused Sergeant McCabe of having not co-operated. Does the Minister see the inconsistency?

Attack the person.

The Minister knew Sergeant McCabe had not been interviewed and that he was protesting about the fact that he had not been interviewed, yet he accused him in the public domain of having not co-operated with an inquiry. The manner in which the Minister did so undermined Sergeant McCabe's reputation, character and credibility. This is a Government that is encouraging whistleblowers.

Destroying them.

The Minister, in issuing statements such as "This guy isn't serious, he didn't even bother co-operating" fundamentally undermined Sergeant McCabe's credibility. That was the import of what he said.

Deputy McGrath, please allow Deputy Martin to make his case.

The Minister would also have been conscious of the fact that the Comptroller and Auditor General had vindicated Sergeant McCabe in regard to the penalty point issue. The contrast between the outcome of the report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and the outcome of the O'Mahoney report could not be more stark, yet the Minister proceeded to make the allegations he made.

I have with me a document I received this morning from Sergeant McCabe, which, as I do not have the time to go through it all in the time available to me, I propose to lay before the House for others to read. Basically, he was a year trying to stop the practice of senior Garda officers terminating fixed charges illegally and so forth. Assistant Commissioner O'Mahoney or his team never contacted, interviewed, called, telephoned, texted, e-mailed, faxed or visited Sergeant McCabe. That is from Maurice McCabe himself and I am putting it on the record. Some gardaí in Sergeant McCabe's station in Mullingar were contacted and questioned regarding terminations they had carried out. Yet they said they did not meet with any of the investigation team. Does the Minister believe he should apologise for what he said? Does he believe he should, at a minimum, withdraw what he said in respect of the whistleblower? Could he not simply say he was wrong and that he made a mistake? In many ways, the Minister put the Commissioner and others in the firing line unnecessarily and in an unedifying way and we have ended up with rather a Jesuitical interpretation about a direction given in December of last year. It is crazy stuff and there is no need for that type of behaviour. The Minister has been retrospectively trying to justify trawling every record that he could to try to find an e-mail or some letter that would get him off the hook from misleading the Dáil.

That is what this was all about last week.

Then it ended up on "Prime Time" on Monday night with a sergeant in the Garda force, who happens to be a whistleblower, having to issue a statement in contradiction of either briefings or statements from the Garda Commissioner. That should never have been allowed to happen. The only reason we got to that stage was to protect the Minister's hide and to give him some fig-leaf to hang on to and to justify the statement he made last October. I do not know why he consistently clings to it. In his speeches the Minister says he does not want to go any further and he does not want to dwell on it. Of course we do not want to dwell on it but the man has a basic entitlement to his good name and to the facts in respect of the issue being articulated clearly and so forth.

I will lay this before the House in whatever way I can but Sergeant McCabe met the Minister for Transport, Tourism and Sport, Deputy Varadkar, and he voiced concerns to the Minister that he had not been interviewed. Commissioner Callinan and assistant commissioner O'Mahoney both spoke to the Committee of Public Accounts and their statements are on the record. In fairness, assistant commissioner O'Mahoney admitted at the Committee of Public Accounts that he did not interview Sergeant McCabe, despite the Minister saying the opposite in October 2013 and that he did not co-operate and so on. The Road Safety Authority complained to the Minister for Transport, Tourism and Sport, writing to him and stating that Sergeant McCabe had not been interviewed. I presume the Minister, Deputy Varadkar, shared that with the Minister for Justice and Equality. What was the Minister's response?

Sergeant McCabe has made it clear to me that he has 28 years' service with a clean discipline record and that, basically, he wants his name cleared. He does not want that slur hanging around him or the accusation that he did not co-operate with the O'Mahoney inquiry. I believe it should be lifted. The Minister should do the honourable thing and withdraw it. Sergeant McCabe was not directed to co-operate with the inquiry. The relevant direction that we have seen was clearly focused on stopping him from accessing the information in the manner he had used to make his initial complaint. I do not know whether it is personal pride or some other unexplained reason but I believe the Minister for Justice and Equality has refused to treat the issue in a detached or objective manner. The undeniable fact is that Garda Sergeant McCabe was not interviewed as part of the investigation into an allegation he made. For most people who are objectively looking on that is extraordinary. This was known to the Minister when he claimed that Garda Sergeant McCabe had failed to co-operate.

The Minister is also aware that two bodies, the Comptroller and Auditor General and the Road Safety Authority, have expressed deep concerns about the financial and safety aspects of the case. The entire way that it was handled was wrong right up to the Committee of Public Accounts hearing but there is not a hint of acknowledgement from the Minister in that regard.

If the Minister continues to maintain the same approach that he has shown to date then there is every reason to doubt that this affair will come to an end. His lingering resistance to an independent inquiry with powers to get to the bottom of all the different cases appears as strong as ever and it will not go away. Ultimately, the only way to protect public faith in the administration of justice and to ensure it is as strong as ever - the need to vindicate the rights of victims and their families remains absolute - is for the Government to face up to its responsibilities in that regard, but that is still unaddressed.

We will continue to pursue the only vehicle which can independently, objectively and outside of the political domain deal with the very grave and serious accusations that have been made - they are grave. I have read through the accusations and there is no sense of their being dealt with adequately or of lessons being learned, which is the key to any investigation. They are rather shocking in what they outline. That is at the core of this issue. The Government should relent and move forward after Mr. Guerin's report with a commission of investigation.

May I say at the outset that while I disagree with the Minister on many issues-----

(Interruptions).

Perhaps I could have the Minister's attention, please.

(Interruptions).

What I want to say, a Leas-Cheann Comhairle, is important but I do not want to cut in on the Minister's conversation with his colleague. I am sorry for interrupting the Minister, Deputy Noonan.

It is okay. I am going.

While I disagree with the Minister for Justice and Equality on many political and ideological issues, I respect the reforming focus he has brought to the necessary eradication of many outdated and inappropriate social anomalies in our system that work to the disadvantage of citizens. I wish to state as much clearly on the record.

However, on this issue the Minister has failed miserably. What each of these scandals has demonstrated is an unhealthy close relationship between the Minister for Justice and Equality and the Garda Commissioner. Each scandal has highlighted an inability on the Minister's behalf to properly address the serious issues which have emerged for the justice system and An Garda Síochána. This runs in marked contrast to the rhetoric from the Government about ending cronyism and the need for transparency and accountability. On each occasion, the Minister's first instinct has been to circle the wagons around the Garda Commissioner and other senior gardaí rather than seek to get to the bottom of the various allegations without fear or favour.

Sinn Féin has come to these issues in a robust manner but we have come to them in a more measured way than our colleagues in Fianna Fáil. We believe that the cumulative effect of these scandals and in particular the Minister's handling of them amount to an issue more serious than the position of the Minister for Justice and Equality. It is clearly now a matter of confidence in the administration of justice and policing and a high degree of confidence is necessary at public level among citizens.

The first of these scandals came under the Minister's watch when it was revealed that two Garda whistleblowers, John Wilson and Sergeant Maurice McCabe, approached Deputy Clare Daly with their concerns regarding the quashing of penalty points by senior gardaí. In early 2012, the two whistleblowers brought their concerns to the then Garda confidential recipient, Oliver Connolly. After months of apparent stonewalling they decided to take their allegations and evidence to the Road Safety Authority, the Comptroller and Auditor General, various Departments and Ministers and an Teachta Daly. Then, in a move which has been the hallmark of the Minister's tenure, he attacked the complainants. In a television interview he made disgraceful allegations about an Teachta Mick Wallace which clearly came from the Garda Commissioner. As pressure mounted in the Oireachtas, the Minister then settled for an internal Garda inquiry into the issue to be carried out by assistant commissioner John O'Mahoney. After the report of this investigation, which was published in May of last year, the Minister sought to minimise concern about the implementation of the penalty points system by the Garda. He even went onto the plinth to attack the two whistleblowers in a scurrilous effort to undermine their credibility. The Minister would later, wrongly and disgracefully, accuse the Garda whistleblowers of not co-operating with the investigation. He has yet to correct the public record in that regard and he has failed to do so again today.

Not unreasonably, Sergeant Maurice McCabe has asked that if he did not co-operate with the O'Mahoney report, why did that report not mention this? Why did the Minister, Deputy Shatter, not say so when he spoke after the report was published? Why was Sergeant Maurice McCabe not disciplined? Why did assistant commissioner O'Mahoney's team contact and interview numerous officers all over the State, yet ignore Sergeant McCabe?

The O'Mahoney report has since been discredited with the publication late last year of the report of the Comptroller and Auditor General, which found that one in five motorists charged with traffic offences in this State were escaping points, that half of all summonses relating to traffic offences were not actually served, and that in some Garda districts there was a penalty points termination rate 50 times higher than in others.

That report led to the Oireachtas Committee of Public Accounts which was given a number of boxes of documents from the two whistleblowers backing up their allegations. A very defensive, and many would say a very arrogant, Garda Commissioner Martin Callinan gave evidence to the Committee of Public Accounts. He went as far as saying that the actions of the two whistleblowers were disgusting. These gardaí are mandated, trained and paid to uphold the law and report allegations of law-breaking, yet active efforts were made to prevent them from reporting what they believed were breaches of the law. Who is preventing them? It is the Garda Commissioner supported by the Minister for Justice and Equality.

The Minister, Deputy Shatter, sought to prevent Sergeant Maurice McCabe from providing evidence on the matter. Indeed, it appeared likely that he would initiate court action to prevent that. In my humble opinion, I think that is what forced the change, as the Minister was moved to proceed with some sort of review of all these matters, which in my view and that of my party Sinn Féin, is inadequate.

As all of this was unravelling, the revelation came that there was a suspicion of illegal surveillance and bugging at the offices of the Garda Síochána Ombudsman Commission, GSOC. Once again, the Minister's instinct was to seek to put GSOC in the dock. The Taoiseach went on to misrepresent the Garda Síochána Act when he claimed that GSOC had not fulfilled its legal requirements, that GSOC was a law-breaker. He repeated that despite me and others here questioning him until finally he was forced to admit his mistake. The Minister then summoned the GSOC chairman to his office to explain why the Minister and senior members of the Garda Síochána were not informed about GSOC's suspicions. The Minister is too smart. He knows that GSOC is not answerable to him but to the Oireachtas. However, by sending for the chairman he actively undermined the independence and integrity of that agency. That agency's responsibility is to police the police. It is not that the police are bad but we know to our cost that, human nature being as it is, accountability is necessary in all associations, organisations and institutions.

Having spoken to the GSOC chairman, the Minister told the Dáil there was nothing there and nothing to see. We then discovered that what the Minister had reported to the Dáil had sizeable omissions from what was sent to him in a written report. Subsequently, on the RTE "Prime Time" programme, Mr. Kieran FitzGerald of the Garda Síochána Ombudsman Commission, said that while there may be no definitive evidence of surveillance at the offices, he could not entirely rule it out. At the Oireachtas Joint Committee on Public Service Oversight and Petitions, Mr. FitzGerald said he suspected there may have been some form of surveillance carried out in their offices. Later on, it emerged that the security sweeps of the GSOC offices were carried out after it appeared that a senior garda - it is believed by sections of the media that this was indeed the Commissioner - had accessed confidential information about a case which was being investigated by GSOC. Layer upon layer has been added to this story day after day.

Following repeated calls by Sinn Féin and others for a fully independent inquiry into the bugging scandal, the Government did a partial about-turn a full ten days after the scandal first emerged. Interestingly enough, it was after the publication of Sinn Féin's Private Members' business motion calling for an independent inquiry. The Government appointed retired judge, John Cooke, to carry out a review of the various bits and pieces around. I wish him well but it is our considered opinion that the review under Mr. Justice Cooke is not sufficient. It falls far short of what is required to get to the bottom of this issue.

I am from the North and I know what bad policing is. I lived in a police state for most of my adult life and I am proud to have played a small part in changing that. We need to have a situation where politicians get out of policing matters. Such matters should be administered in an accountable and fully independent way.

In this case, the Minister should have backed out of it. He should have brought in the type of investigation that is allowed under the Commissions of Investigation Act. The Minister set the terms of reference for Mr. Justice Cooke but the Minister is already at the centre of this entire controversy. He put himself in there, although no one forced him into it. The Minister has already asserted that there was no evidence at all that GSOC was the target of a surveillance operation.

In the latest episode of an increasingly worrying saga for members of the public, last week a dossier from the Garda whistleblower, Maurice McCabe, was given to the Taoiseach by the Fianna Fáil leader. That was the right thing to do, as has been recorded. The dossier contained very serious allegations of Garda malpractice.

These allegations may be totally and absolutely unfounded. I do not know and we have refrained from making any comment on that. Some of us have been on the receiving end of totally unfounded allegations for a very long time. However, these allegations were not new to the Minister for Justice and Equality. Indeed, the allegation is that he has known about them for two years.

Yesterday, the Government announced the appointment of a barrister to examine the claims contained in the dossier. Yet again, in my view, that is not enough. I have listened to what the Taoiseach said yesterday and I thought he performed well in terms of how he outlined all this. This, however, is all in marked contrast to the mandate the Government was given when it was elected.

Last week, I wrote to the Taoiseach asking him to come into the Dáil to make a statement on all these issues. As usual, the Oireachtas was bypassed by the Government. I was able to read about what was going to happen in the Chamber in Monday morning's newspapers. I was able to read what the Minister was going to say, and the general tenor of his approach, in last night's news and in this morning's newspapers.

As I said to the Taoiseach yesterday, if the Minister was not going to hand this over to an independent agency to examine it under the terms of reference which are already set up, he should have come in to this House to talk these issues out, listen to what the Opposition and other Deputies may have had to say and then come up with a position. However, we have been hit with a fait accompli. We were simply told that a senior counsel is going to do a scoping exercise, so the mandate of everyone here amounts to nothing. The Government's focus is on trying to manage public opinion on these issues.

I was not surprised, therefore, when the Minister did not apologise because I knew in advance, as a result of reports in this morning's newspapers and on television last night, that he had no intention of doing so. That is one way of doing business but it is not real politics. It is the politics of spin and throwing shapes as opposed to that of making fundamental changes to the conditions in which people live and to the institutions and protocols by which we are governed.

I am sure members of the public are fatigued as a result of hearing about the events surrounding this matter over a protracted period. People's mortgages are in distress, their children are in the United States or elsewhere working, some have children in hospital and others cannot gain access to services for their aged parents as a result of the crisis in the area of health. When our parliamentary party meets, I ask my colleagues where the matters under discussion rate among people's concerns. Despite the fact that the other issues I referred to are obviously part of the daily grind for many citizens, there is no doubt that those under discussion also matter to them. In the past five or six years people have learned a great deal about how this State has been run. They respect public servants, including the majority of members of An Garda Síochána. However, they also look to Governments to set matters right. Any charge those in government have levelled at the individuals who preceded them in office is mirrored by the way in which they have gone about dealing with this issue. Even though the allegations that have been made are serious, grave and hugely devastating for the families and others involved, it is the way the Government has responded to them which has caused the crisis in confidence. It is clear - at least for now - that the Government is putting the Minister's interests above that of public confidence. I regularly find myself asking what on earth Labour is doing in government. I just do not know what is its function in the current Administration.

The reaction to the events surrounding the GSOC scandal and the penalty points affair has been entirely insufficient. The decision to appoint a barrister to review these matters is not good enough either. The only credible and acceptable way to achieve clarity in respect of this chaotic episode and to bring it to a conclusion is through the establishment of an independent inquiry under the Commissions of Investigations Act 2004. I cannot for the life of me understand why the Minister will not facilitate such an inquiry. If he is as right as he claims to be in respect of these matters, then why will he not establish an independent commission to investigate them? If he did set up a commission, it would mean that there would be no further tit-for-tat exchanges involving himself and Deputy Martin. It would also mean that this would not continue to be an issue of party political points scoring in this Chamber. In addition, it would not become an issue of contention for the members of An Garda Síochána who are out patrolling and looking after our communities, our families and our security.

I do not understand why the Taoiseach did not come before the House yesterday in order to announce an independent inquiry. Had he done so, he would have shown leadership and removed this matter from the realms of both party politics and politics in general. On numerous occasions I have pointed out that what is happening in this case is symptomatic of a political culture which continues to exist in this State. Corruption does not always involve brown envelopes filled with money. It also involves the way in which people go about their business, cronyism, cosy relationships and operating in a bubble, and not understanding that politics must always be about the empowerment of citizens, upholding their rights and making political conditions better in order that everyone can be treated on the basis of equality. I am of the view that we will find a cure in this regard. The things I refer to are not natural disasters which suddenly came upon us. They are the products of humanity. These are things which we make and which we can unmake. We can certainly make them better if we have the will to do so.

The way the Government has dealt with this matter is representative of that same old way of doing things. It is also part of the same old culture which those in government pledged to get rid of. That brings me to its treatment of brave people who have come forward. I refer to those who have identified that something is wrong, who have pursued all the proper and legal ways of resolving matters and who want a light to be shone on the various issues about which they are concerned. The people in question are not used to the focus of the media being upon them and neither are they used to public scrutiny. Their families are certainly not used to reading about them in newspapers. It takes very strong individuals to travel the obstacle course that has been erected. I commend those involved in this instance on doing that.

The Government may only deal with its only electorate but I am of the view that it will find that widespread concern exists among the members of that electorate. People do not want the same old failed ways of doing politics. The Government is aware of this and that is why the parties which comprise it positioned themselves in the way they did in the most recent general election campaign. They knew that people were tired of the activities of those who had preceded them in government. Equally, people are going to become tired of the way in which the Government is dealing with this matter. They want the Government to deal with issues of this nature in an open, transparent and accountable way. The case for establishing an independent inquiry into the bugging scandal, which may or may not be a matter of substance, and the claims relating to the dossier presented by Sergeant Maurice McCabe under the Commissions of Investigations Act 2004 is unanswerable. During his lengthy contribution, the Minister failed to provide one credible reason as to why an inquiry under the Act should not take place. Yesterday, the Taoiseach also failed to provide a single good reason in this regard. In fact, he opined that such a commission may well be set up because that eventuality is implicit in the context of the senior counsel's remit.

Not long after the Committee of Public Account's hearings on the penalty points scandal, the transcript of a conversation between the confidential recipient, Mr. Oliver Connolly, and Sergeant Maurice McCabe was read into the record of the Dáil. We have all heard it several times. It states: "I tell you something Maurice - and this is just personal advice to you - if Shatter thinks you're screwing him, you're finished." One could not make it up. What prophetic words. We are now faced with the bizarre situation whereby, as a result of what he said about the Minister, Mr. Oliver Connolly's head has been the only one to roll in the aftermath of this series of scandals. The Minister did not utter one word about that matter during his contribution. He unilaterally sacked the man whom he saw fit to appoint to the position of confidential recipient. A public statement was made and it was a case of "Sin é, that's it". The Minister has never advanced any rationale for this decision. Why did he sack Mr. Connolly? What did he do wrong? The Minister is remiss for not even mentioning this matter. If the Government is to have any hope of restoring public confidence in the administration of justice, it must do what we have been advocating. When Deputy Mac Lochlainn has the opportunity to put questions to the Minister on this matter, perhaps he will advance, in a scholarly and appropriate way, the reasons that he has not utilised the legislation.

The evidence of the Government's performance is that there is little interest in effective systems of oversight or governance. The Minister earlier dismissed Sinn Féin's concerns on these issues. I remind the Minister that Sinn Féin's mandate from the citizens we represent here cannot be so easily dismissed. Our Oireachtas team is not fazed by the Minister's arrogance and we will continue to hold him to account, I hope, in a fair, but robust and reasonable way. We support the essential role of An Garda Síochána. We have a commitment and we commend the commitment of the overwhelming majority of gardaí who uphold the law and who look after all of us every day. In the North - a place which may be a foreign place for the Minister - Sinn Féin has worked tirelessly to ensure justice and policing is representative of the policing in the communities it seeks to serve. I was one of the people who was primarily involved in that and I can say that if we had not got an independent police authority, local joint policing committees, and an Ombudsman with real power, policing would not have been embraced. The people in the North who support Sinn Féin are law-abiding people, but we did not have a police service that suited the modern needs of people.

Without seeking to draw any comparisons between the Garda Síochána and the old discredited RUC, it is clear that fundamental change is needed in the administration of policing and justice in this part of Ireland as well. It is very obvious there needs to be a clear separation of Government from the Garda Síochána. No police service, no senior police officer and no Garda Commissioner should be accountable to a politician no matter who that is. It does not matter whether it is Dermot Ahern or Deputy Alan Shatter or Deputy Pádraig Mac Lochlainn. The citizens deserve a policing service which is overseen by an independent authority. The Garda Commissioner should be fully accountable to that authority, as should joint policing committees, and all of that should be accountable to the Oireachtas.

Sinn Féin will soon publish its Garda Síochána (amendment) Bill 2014 and we will present our vision for change and our solution to the problems so evident over the past 18 months, namely, the penalty points debacle and the failure of senior Garda management to co-operate fully with the Garda Síochána Ombudsman Commission. As I have said on previous occasions, out of these dark little periods good can come. I commend this Bill to the Minister. Rather than seeking to resist change - I have recorded my admiration for the Minister's reforming zeal on other issues - I ask him to embrace it. The Minister should be in the vanguard of this change. His first step should have been to establish independent inquiries into GSOC and whistleblower scandals as provided for under the Commissions of Investigation Act. This has been the Minister's greatest failure. He is not a stupid person. It is not the allegations of misconduct by some gardaí that has eroded public confidence, it is his and the Government's failure to deal with these matters properly, fairly and in a transparent way. The Minister is bound to know that.

The next speaking slot is shared by Deputies Clare Daly, Mick Wallace and Joe Higgins.

I find the Government's proposal to appoint a senior counsel to consider whether an independent inquiry is required a bit difficult to take after all that has happened. After 18 months of the penalty points episode we certainly have no doubts that an independent public inquiry is required to establish the truth - an independent and public inquiry into the penalty points episode, into the allegations of surveillance of GSOC, and into reported malpractice and corruption in the force over a long period.

One does not need to be a rocket scientist to assume that justice is not being administered fairly in this country. I am not saying it was before the Minister's time, I am saying it is still happening on his watch. From when the whistleblowers first brought forward their information, the Minister's first instinct was to rubbish them. We brought the information to the Chamber and he rubbished us. He set up a report and he had the Garda Commissioner rubbish that on 7 December 2012. It was a case of minimise, dismiss and rubbish all the way.

We eventually got the internal reports and we issued an 18 page document to highlight the inadequacies of a report which was the result of gardaí inspecting gardaí. The Minister rubbished us again. He attacked us personally and he went his usual way of dismissing and minimising anyone who had the audacity to challenge him.

The Garda professional standards unit report contained some good recommendations and the Minister decided to pick out the ones he liked and to forget the ones he did not like so much. The main recommendation was the publication of a fixed charge manual within three months, but this has not been implemented. Perhaps it is on the way. It recommended an independent audit but we got an internal one. The Garda Commissioner came to the joint committee to tell us that the result of the audit was 100% perfect. It reminded me of Mugabe. The report recommended a separate investigation into the abuse of the mandatory comment box because this was at the heart of how the penalty points system corroded. This has not happened either.

The Minister did not cover himself in glory on "Prime Time"; what he said was personal and political. He knows it had nothing to do with him as Minister administering his ministry of justice in a proper manner. It was interesting to hear some of the recent comments about his reservations with regard to the policing Bill. We brought forward a Bill to address many of the issues which have come into the public domain of late. We considered the idea of an independent board with monitoring and supervisory oversight functions. The Minister rubbished it. We looked at the idea of a diffusion of power and the depoliticisation of the police. The Garda Commissioner is answerable to the Dáil, which amounts to nothing because in reality he is only answerable to the Minister, who is one man from one party. Policing in Ireland is over-politicised. We recommended a root and branch review of the force, something that has never happened.

I refer to what the Minister said in reply to our recommendations:

The 2005 Act provides that the Commissioner is accountable to the Minister for the performance of his functions and those of the force. In turn, as Minister, I am accountable to this House.

If that is the case, I am surprised he is still here:

In terms of accountability, it is worthwhile recording that in addition to the Minister of the day being answerable to the House for the Garda Síochána, the Garda Commissioner is, under the 2005 Act, the Accounting Officer for the Garda Síochána. In that capacity he is liable to appear before the Committee of Public Accounts. In addition, the 2005 Act established the independent Garda Síochána Ombudsman Commission which is empowered to carry out independent investigations into Garda conduct. That Act also established the Garda Síochána Inspectorate which provides expert advice on achieving the highest levels of efficiency and effectiveness in the operation and administration of the force.

I remind the Minister that it states, "the highest levels".

The Minister further stated that the accountability of the Garda Síochána has been significantly strengthened by means of all these measures. The Minister told us then that oversight was in safe hands and everything was well. Now he is telling us that some modifications are required.

Perhaps he will now consider that he may have got it wrong when he rubbished the Bill I brought forward.

The GSOC Boylan report and its annual report last summer were both damning of the lack of co-operation the commission received from the Garda Síochána. GSOC observed that many of the recommendations set out in the Morris report of 2004 had not been implemented and, moreover, that the sorry tale of Garda involvement in the Kieran Boylan affair bore a striking resemblance to the goings on in Donegal that led to the establishment of the Morris tribunal. The Garda Commissioner completely dismissed the seriousness of GSOC's special report when he appeared before the Oireachtas committee. He relied heavily on the excuse of safeguarding State security and combatting terrorism when defending some of the force's unorthodox actions and the clandestine nature of those actions. Security concerns, he stated, might sometimes prevent him from co-operating with the oversight mechanism of GSOC. Where have we heard that before?

The Commissioner also defended the Garda practice of demanding to know the relevance of GSOC's requests for information before it will agree to provide that information. There is absolutely no legal reason that GSOC should have to explain why the evidence it is seeking is relevant to any investigation it is undertaking. The new protocol arrangement the Minister introduced last September, which was supposed to improve the exchange of information between the Garda and GSOC, was only soft law and involves no element of compulsion. It is another example of weak application of the law. The Commissioner came in and told us we should have trust and confidence in him and that he will give GSOC information when he sees fit.

It gets worse and worse. The Minister would not let GSOC investigate the Roma children affair, deciding instead that it would make more sense to have a weaker review. There will not be any examination of Garda racial profiling under the terms of reference he has given the Ombudsman for Children. The Minister came in here and rubbished the local people who protested at the Corrib gas field. There were more complaints to GSOC about that operation than about any other issue in the history of the State. When we asked the Minister to give GSOC the task of examining what was happening there under section 106 of the Garda Síochána Act 2005, he was not interested in the truth. His concern was with covering up, minimising and dismissing.

The Fine Gael Party used to pride itself on being the party of law and order. How in God's name can it stand over that? The Minister avoids using strong legislation in order to avoid seeking out the truth and having to reveal it. He would not ask the Commissioner if the latter had engaged in lawful surveillance in case he was told something he had to stand over. He would not put the same questions to G2. He would not even ask whether any effort had been made to check for rogue elements within the force in general or G2 in particular who might have engaged in unlawful surveillance. The Minister did not want the answers to these questions.

GSOC made strenuous requests for access to the PULSE system last September in the wake of the Boylan report and its annual report. The Minister refused to grant it, before finally relenting a few weeks ago under political pressure. He would not allow GSOC to examine the penalty points issue until, again under political pressure, he allowed an investigation under section 102, but not section 106, of he 2005 Act. The Minister's prime motive in all of this is political survival. Sad to say, his prime motives have very little to do with the administration of justice.

Many things have gone on in this State for a long time that leave much to be desired. They were happening long before the Minister's time, but it is disappointing that there is still no appetite for the truth. Gemma O'Doherty lost her job at the Irish Independent because she had the audacity to challenge the Commissioner. We received an e-mail this morning from a nephew of Fr. Niall Molloy, the priest whose murder has been the subject of extensive research by Ms O'Doherty. He states:

For almost 30 years people have hidden behind a wall of silence, deceit, corruption and cover-up. Time for the light of justice to shine on them and reveal them to the people for what they are. Many, many people have gone to their graves overshadowed by this heartache.

If the Minister stays in power and the Commissioner remains in place, then this Parliament is a sham.

Deputies

Hear, hear.

People are right to be cynical about politics and politicians. This place is a joke. We play games in here, and sometimes these games lead to the unfair distribution of justice or no justice at all. Sometimes they lead to people losing their lives, to murders, to families not getting any justice. What do we see when bad things emerge? We see our police force and our politicians circling the wagons and doing what it takes to cover up what they do not want us to see. They do what it takes to hide the truth. Is there any appetite for doing things any differently in this House? The Minister looks up at these benches and wonders how those people, with their long hair and raggy jeans, have the audacity to challenge him. The people of Wexford did not elect me to come in here and approve of the Minister's behaviour. They put me in here to challenge it. It is time for the Minister to go and to bring the Commissioner with him.

Deputies

Hear, hear.

Today we have a case of here we go again, with Dáil business suspended while the Minister for Justice and Equality comes in to explain himself. I really wonder how long it will take for the penny to drop and for backbenchers in Fine Gael and the Labour Party to join the dots and realise we have a serious problem in this country. That problem is twofold. First, we are not dealing with isolated examples but rather with an institutional problem. Second, that problem patently will not be dealt with while the Minister remains in office.

The Minister has come in here today and twittered away to his friend sitting beside him. He has gone on the attack in an attempt to deflect. We heard that there is no basis to the allegations made by Sergeant Maurice McCabe, just as we were told there was no basis to allegations regarding surveillance of the Garda Síochána Ombudsman Commission. In that case, we had the Minister referring to "so-called vulnerabilities". He tells us he does not have any animosity towards Garda McCabe, but he spent most of his contribution trying to undermine the latter, in much the same way as he hold us he was a great supporter of GSOC while every action he has taken has been either to accuse the commission of not fulfilling its statutory duty or an attempt to undermine it at every turn.

The Minister spent a great deal of time in his opening statement saying it was not true that the original complaints made by Garda McCabe were not investigated. In fact, he assured us, they were all investigated. The Minister is 100% correct in that. However, they were investigated under procedures which were found demonstrably to be inadequate. We had the Garda investigating itself, a toothless GSOC and a confidential recipient role that was not fit for purpose. These procedures were inadequate to deal with the penalty points issue and are likewise inadequate to deal with all of the other allegations. The Minister thinks he can get away from this reality by deflecting, but he cannot do so.

The authors of the Morris tribunal report referred to being staggered by a small but disproportionately influential core of people in the Garda Síochána. We were told at the time that measures were being brought in to deal with this. It has been clear for some time, however, that the measures that were implemented have not dealt with the problems. Those of us who have been raising these points for some time were, until very recently, ridiculed for so doing. We were met with passionate speeches about how crime is being reduced and the work of the many great gardaí in the force.

Of course there are great gardaí out there, but they too need a transparent Garda force. In my opinion, there is a small but disproportionately influential core in the force. I refer to those among whom "loyalty [to the force] is prized above honesty", as Judge Smithwick identified. This attitude is epitomised by the antics of the Garda Commissioner, who called the whistleblowers "disgusting". He referred to them as "so-called whistleblowers" and said he would not allow them to undermine his officers. This mentality views the force as separate from the interests of the public it is supposed to serve. If that link is to be broken down, the political will to make the Garda so do will be required. Unfortunately, the nature of the relationship between the Minister and the Garda Commissioner is making that impossible. It is a key part of the problem. It is genuinely hard to see how we can move on when this fairly gigantic elephant is in the room. This needs to be addressed.

Every one of this Government's responses has been too little, too late. It took the Government 18 months to appoint GSOC to investigate the penalty points issue. Its response to the surveillance of GSOC was to initiate an inquiry into GSOC rather than the alleged source of the surveillance. Now it is setting up an inquiry to see whether we need an inquiry. To be honest, the issues have gone way too far for that. Of course we need a proper commission of inquiry into everything that has gone on over the last while. That is actually the easy bit. The more difficult bit, and the more necessary bit, is that alluded to by Deputy Wallace - the urgent legislative reform that is needed in this regard. When we highlighted what was needed last summer, the Minister basically laughed us out of court, although he has now adopted some of our points. He does not need to bring these issues to the Joint Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality. GSOC has already told the Minister what it needs, but he has ignored it. The recommendations that GSOC issued on foot of the Kieran Boylan report have not yet been implemented. More important, the idea that the Minister and Commissioner Callinan can remain at the helm is unsustainable at this stage. I do not say that lightly. I am not saying it on the basis of jumping to conclusions. I am saying it on the basis of my knowledge of the facts.

The Minister said that Sergeant Maurice McCabe's allegations of malpractice and serious corruption in the area of Bailieborough, County Cavan were investigated. He pointed out that "not everything is simply black and white" and that is true. What is black and white is that Sergeant Maurice McCabe was demonised, bullied, discredited and moved out of that station. What is black and white is that Sergeant Maurice McCabe was told there was no case to answer in cases in which there are clearly questions to be answered. I am not saying that any garda wanted something like the tragic murder of Sylvia Roche Kelly to happen. Clearly, that is not the case. Clearly, it is good that her murderer is in prison. The point that people are making is that it is an awful pity that he was not in prison before he murdered her. He could have been in prison if gardaí had done their jobs properly. It was decided to shoot the messenger rather than deal with the consequences of these actions or inactions. Luckily for Irish society, this messenger was made of sterner stuff. Sergeant Maurice McCabe did not back down despite the enormous personal consequences that had for him. The difference with the penalty points case was that it was possible to prove what went on there. Even in that case, it was a massive battle over 18 months. Sergeant McCabe went to every arm of the State to get answers and only then did we get them. It showed his credibility and meant that the other allegations were now being listened to, which was hugely important.

I am glad that Fianna Fáil has stood up and woken up to this issue. I am glad that others who have not said a word about this issue since it started are going to speak about it now. I am glad that people are learning about the seriousness of this issue. However, it is clear from the Minister's antics here today that he does not appreciate how serious this issue is. He is taking the exact same approach that he took to the penalty points issue. In that case, we were told there was no systems problem. The Minister told us that just 189 allegations had been made and that half of them were wrong anyway. Now we hear that a load of allegations have been made, but there is probably nothing to them. That is wrong. We can say that because we know what has happened in so many other instances. The Taoiseach received a letter this week from Ian Bailey on foot of his request for others with evidence of malpractice to come forward. As the Minister knows, five Supreme Court judges have said that the behaviour of gardaí in relation to Ian Bailey was wrongful and breathtaking misconduct. The gardaí in question offered a drug user £5,000 and drugs to incriminate Ian Bailey. The garda who was named in the DPP's report as having done that was sent to France to advise the French authorities on the criminality of Ian Bailey.

Where would one get it?

We know that the handler at the centre of the Kieran Boylan case has been promoted to the senior ranks of An Garda Síochána.

One would not get it in South America.

We know that in 2012, ten gardaí were appointed to investigate the tragic case of Fr. Niall Molloy on foot of new information from Gemma O'Doherty. Guess what they found? Nothing. They found no evidence and no prosecutions were brought. I might add that no one spoke to Gemma O'Doherty either. Those involved in internal investigations are obviously fond of not interviewing the person who brings new information to light. I could also mention our own cases. People the length and breadth of this country contacted us on foot of the work we did originally. In October of last year, we went to the Department of Justice and Equality with almost 30 citizens who wished to hand in details of tragic cases of Garda malpractice that resulted in citizens of this State failing to achieve justice. We did not know if all of those allegations were true, but we knew that the people in question sincerely believed them to be true. The citizens who wanted to hand in their details, who had an average age of approximately 60, and four Deputies from this House were locked out of the Department of Justice and Equality. We had to negotiate on the telephone to get the door open. There is a problem of culture here.

The Minister's relationship with the Garda Commissioner is at the heart of it. In his speech here today, the Minister spent some time dealing with his allegation, which can be disproven, that Sergeant Maurice McCabe and Garda John Wilson did not co-operate with the investigation. He said they failed to take up an invitation from John O'Mahoney to engage with his inquiry. That is a bit peculiar because John O'Mahoney said clearly at a recent meeting of the Committee of Public Accounts, in response to a question from Deputy McDonald, that he did not invite Sergeant Maurice McCabe to participate in that process. The Minister is just wrong. I think one of the reasons he is wrong - I would take issue with Deputy Martin in this regard - is that he leans too much on the information given to him by the Garda Commissioner at every turn. The only so-called evidence that Sergeant Maurice McCabe or Garda John Wilson did not co-operate with the inquiry is the so-called directive that was issued by the Garda Commissioner on 14 December 2012. I want to put it on the record that this directive was no more than a demand to shut up and back off. No other explanation will tally.

Everybody is talking about this issue now, but it was not always so popular. I want to put Deputies back in the minds of certain people. An internal investigation was set up at the end of October. Five chief superintendents, six superintendents, seven office staff and all of their other staff met over a seven-month period. They were sitting up there for a month without coming near any of the whistleblowers. Deputy Wallace suddenly used a sleight of hand to ask a question that was not on the agenda - our questions had been ruled out of order - and put this matter on the Dáil record. The Minister, Deputy Varadkar, answered him in that regard and fair play to him for that. It became a story when "Prime Time" ran with it. What happened next? The whistleblowers were sitting in their base two days later when a confidential circular was posted on the notice board. It said that in order to protect the reputation of An Garda Síochána, anybody who accessed the PULSE system would be audited and anybody who released information would be investigated. The following day, the Garda Commissioner released a press statement saying there was no culture of writing off penalty points. A couple of days later, the whistleblowers were called in and told not to access PULSE. They were not allowed to take a copy of the letter - it was read out to them. They were told to stop accessing those records. Garda John Wilson had his car searched by his colleagues. Another directive was issued a couple of days later. It was not a direction to participate with the inquiry - it was a further direction to stop accessing PULSE. If that modus operandi did not represent an attempt to shut down the inquiry, I do not know what it was.

The Minister, Deputy Shatter, has been at pains to put a divide between the operational responsibility of An Garda Síochána and his responsibilities in the policy area. All I can detect from that is that the Minister's friend, Commissioner Callinan, will be joining his previous friend, Oliver Connolly, among the ranks of the unemployed and that the Minister intends to soldier on to the end of this controversy.

I am heartily sick of this situation. I am disgusted by the Minister's antics, his behaviour today and his behaviour in the past. I do not want to be part of a society that stands over this type of cover-up and I do not believe Irish citizens do either. The Minister might think he has got away with it, but he has not.

Debate adjourned.
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