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Dáil Éireann debate -
Thursday, 2 Dec 2021

Vol. 1015 No. 2

Protected Disclosures (Amendment) Bill 2021: First Stage

I move:

That leave be granted to introduce a Bill entitled an Act to amend the Protected Disclosures Act 2014 and to provide for related matters.

I am delighted to be introducing this Bill with my colleague Deputy Buckley. I will first say a few words on what motivated us to craft this Bill. In 2014, this State introduced the Protected Disclosures Act. This was badly needed in a State such as this, where transparency and accountability are words that are regularly invoked but seldom made a reality. Often, when people in this society try to reveal wrongdoing, there is a reflexive reaction on the part of those in authority to think of the reputation of the organisation first and crush those who are trying to blow the whistle. In many ways whistleblowers can be seen as the ethical spirit within an organisation pushing back. They are people who to try to reveal wrongdoing in the public interest and, as a consequence, often pay a very high price.

Unfortunately, the protected disclosure regime has a number of weaknesses. Compounding this were our concerns that the Government’s new amending Bill could weaken protections even further. That is why an Teachta Buckley and I have brought forward this Bill. It was crafted in consultation with legal practitioners, academics lecturing on whistleblowing and whistleblowers themselves. It will do a number of things we believe will help protect those who try to reveal wrongdoing, support the public interest and help them win the redress they often deserve. It will broaden the definition of penalisation to include hindering or attempting to hinder further reporting and vexatious proceedings against a discloser. Where an employee alleges penalisation as a result of making a protected disclosure, the burden of proof will now lie with the employer to demonstrate this is not the case. The Bill also broadens the definition of employee to include those working in volunteer organisations, associated persons and journalists. It will make an offence any attempt to hinder or penalise any person for making a protected disclosure. It will provide free legal aid and psychological services for whistleblowers. It removes the limitations on financial compensation that whistleblowers can win by way of redress.

Importantly, the Bill will further empower the Minister to gather all documents relevant to a protected disclosure made to him or her, regarding his or her Department or bodies under its aegis, and to pass this information on to the Attorney General in connection with the conduct of legal proceedings on behalf of the State. It will also require the Minister to lay before the Oireachtas an annual statistical protected disclosures report. Last, it satisfies the mandatory reporting requirements and other sections of the EU’s whistleblowing directive. As one of the world’s greatest whistleblowers Edward Snowden once said, "The sad truth is that societies that demand whistleblowers be martyrs often find themselves without either, and always when it matters the most."

I too am delighted to introduce this Bill with my colleague Deputy Farrell. I will be brief because she has explained a lot of this already. In my own experience over a number of years in my previous role as spokesperson on mental health, I received a number of protected disclosures and the law was very weak. I raised this issue on numerous occasions with three separate Ministers and a Taoiseach and the reply I got at the time was, "It is a protected disclosure; what do you want me to do with it?" This amending Bill strengthens this whole area and provides clarity. The biggest crux of the issue, both here and in Europe, has been that there has been no guarantee that whoever makes a protected disclosure will be protected. There is also no real mechanism to see whether the issue that is reported is resolved. There is no way of following that up.

From my own experience and Deputy Farrell from hers, the majority of people who make a protected disclosure do it for the betterment and good of their own selves, their companies and society, yet they are punished the most. I have seen people being suspended from work on a number of occasions, and that made me very angry. Deputy Farrell mentioned this Bill would include vexatious proceedings and other statements. The way people in this country have been treated when trying to protect society and tell the truth is that they get absolutely hammered. I appeal to this House and the Upper House to look at this Bill in an empathic way when this goes to the next Stage because these people should never be punished for doing the right thing. I have dealt with so many protected disclosures over the years and this regime has never been amended. A person in a mental institution was left in that situation a number of years ago and the case was never dealt with. The person who made that protected disclosure lost their job and had to go to court three and a half years later just to get what they were entitled to. I am confident and hopeful our Bill will pass all Stages. This Bill will do the right thing for this country, its people and society.

Is the Bill opposed?

Question put and agreed to.

Since this is a Private Members' Bill, Second Stage must, under Standing Orders, be taken in Private Members' time.

I move: "That the Bill be taken in Private Members' time."

Question put and agreed to.
Sitting suspended at 1.17 p.m. and resumed at 2 p.m.
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