We have a quorum. Apologies have been received from Deputy David Cullinane who will be substituted by Deputy Thomas Gould, and Senator Frances Black who will be substituted by Senator Lynn Ruane. Can I take it that the draft minutes of our private joint committee meetings on 16 and 24 November 2021 and the draft minutes of our public meetings on 17 and 24 November 2021 are agreed? Agreed.