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JOINT COMMITTEE ON JUSTICE, EQUALITY, DEFENCE AND WOMEN'S RIGHTS debate -
Tuesday, 24 Feb 2009

European Criminal Records Information System: Motion.

I thank the committee for dealing with this draft EU Council decision on the European Criminal Records Information System, ECRIS. The approval of both Houses of the Oireachtas is required before Ireland can agree to the adoption of the instrument at EU level.

Put simply, this decision is intended to implement Article 11 of the framework decision on the organisation and content of the exchange of information extracted from criminal records between member states. The framework decision is due to be adopted formally and Article 11 provides for the format and the manner of the organising and facilitating exchanges of criminal records information.

Before dealing with the Council decision on ECRIS, it is useful to revisit briefly the framework decision which ECRIS implements. Information on convictions has been exchanged between member states of the EU through systems set up by the 1959 Council of Europe Convention on Mutual Assistance in Criminal Matters. In November 2005 the Council adopted the decision on the exchange of information extracted from criminal records. It was designed to improve the systems established in the 1959 convention, chiefly by speeding up transmission times.

The proposal for a Council framework decision on criminal records was put forward by the Commission in December 2005. It arises from a desire to improve further the quality of information exchanged on criminal convictions within the European Union. Its purpose is to provide for the transmission of the following: information on a conviction handed down against the national of another member state by a member state to the member state of the person's nationality; transmission by the member state of nationality to other member states, on request, of information on national convictions registered in the national criminal record; information on convictions handed down in other member states against its nationals; on convictions handed down in third countries subsequently transmitted to the member state of nationality and entered in the national criminal record; and to lay down the framework for a computerised conviction information exchange system between member states, to be built and developed on the basis of this framework decision. This part of the framework decision is being given effect by the Council decision on ECRIS.

I wish to turn to the draft Council decision on ECRIS and will go briefly through the articles. Article 1 sets out the purpose of the decision. It establishes ECRIS and sets up the elements of a standardised format for the electronic exchange of information extracted from national criminal records. Article 2 deals with definitions. Article 3 describes ECRIS. It makes it clear that ECRIS is a decentralised IT system, based on national criminal records databases, with interconnection software and a common communications infrastructure. ECRIS will not be a centralised database. All data will be stored in databases operated by the member states. Central authorities will not have direct online access to criminal records databases of other member states. The common communications infrastructure will be the Trans European Services for Telematics between Administrations, S-TESTA, network. Each member state will bear the costs of using and maintaining its national criminal records databases but the Commission will bear the costs of the common communications infrastructure.

Article 4 deals with the format of transmission of information. When transmitting criminal records information, member states will use common codes for offences, for instance, the code for trafficking of human beings for the purposes of labour exploitation is 0401 00. Member states may also provide information, where available, on the degree of completion, that is, whether the act was completed or an attempt, the level of participation, whether the person concerned was the main instigator or aiding in the offence, whether there is an exemption from criminal liability, on grounds of insanity, for instance, and recidivism. There is nothing in the decision to compel member states to change existing practices in relation to the manner in which criminal records data are held. Additional information such as on the nature of the offence and other directly related data will be supplied only where available. We will need to ensure the nationality of persons convicted of offences is recorded in all instances. Member states will also provide information, where available, on the sanctions imposed.

Article 5 provides for member states to provide the general secretariat of the Council with information to assist in drawing up a manual for users of ECRIS. Each member state will provide a list of offences in each of the categories referred to in the table of offences in Annex A and a list of the sentences that can be applied in each of the categories.

Article 6 provides for implementing measures. The Council, acting by qualified majority, after consulting the European Parliament, can amend the annexes of the decision. These set out the categories of offences and sanctions. As mentioned, a manual for users will be prepared and member states and the Commission will co-ordinate action for the development and operation of ECRIS.

Article 7 is deleted. Article 8 provides for the Commission to regularly publish a report on the exchange of criminal records information.

Articles 9 and 10 contain the implementation and entry into force provisions, respectively. Member states will have to adopt the measures necessary to comply with the decision within the time limit specified in Article 11 of the framework decision, that is, three years from the date of entry into force.

Annex A sets out the common table of offences categories. All 27 member states had to sit down and ensure their criminal law provisions could fit into a common table. Annex A is the outcome of those discussions. Annex B sets out the common table of sanctions categories.

Implementation of the Council framework decision on the exchange of criminal records information and the related Council decision on ECRIS will provide Ireland with information on the criminal convictions of Irish nationals convicted in other member states as a matter of course. It will also provide us with a mechanism for receiving comprehensive information extracted from criminal records on request. When the decisions take effect, Ireland will be obliged to transmit as a matter of course to other member states information on convictions handed down against their nationals. In order for Ireland to fulfil this obligation, we will have to record the nationality of persons from other member states convicted here. We will also store information on convictions handed down against Irish nationals in other member states. This will facilitate us in providing information on convictions handed down in other member states to requesting member states.

We have seen great movement of population within the European Union, especially within the last decade. ECRIS will provide the Garda Síochána with a speedy mechanism to check for criminal records information on EU nationals who are the subject of criminal investigation. The electronic exchange of information will replace current arrangements where requests for criminal records information can be made by various means such as by letter, fax, telephone and e-mail. The standardised format provided by ECRIS will be a valuable tool for police services across the Union and assist in the objective of ensuring information gets to where it is required in a speedy fashion.

I thank members of the committee for their co-operation in making time available for the presentation of this measure. The draft Council decision is an important one and its implementation will greatly benefit the citizens of the European Union. The Government wishes to be in a position to signify full agreement to the text when it is submitted to the EU Council of Ministers for formal adoption. In that regard, it would like to be in a position to inform the secretariat of the Council of the European Union as soon as possible that Ireland's parliamentary reservation has been lifted. In the circumstances, I am happy to ask the committee to approve the motions before it.

I thank the Minister for updating the committee on this matter. It is said that oftentimes the wheels of justice grind slowly but without making light of the process, time is of the essence in so far as the establishment of such an EU mechanism for the exchange of information on criminal convictions is concerned. This process has been under way since 2004 following a well known child abuse case.

In the matter of the sex offenders register, I regret that the timeframe appears to have been particularly slow and perhaps the Minister might inform the committee as to the time frame involved. We are told Ireland will be required to participate three years from the date of entry into force. However, I wonder when it will come into force.

I am sure the Minister can advance reasons this is not an EU-wide database. I would have thought that in the circumstances consideration would be given to establishing an EU-wide database for sex offenders and serious criminals. However, from what the Minister has said, it appears that it will not be EU-wide but will be a series of national registers that will feed into a centralised mechanism. It is obviously important to address cross-border crime in a way that ensures a system to allow for the exchange of information on such convictions. It is important to have co-operation at the highest level, notwithstanding the right to free travel not only being acknowledged but also protected in all cases.

What will be the financial implications during that three-year period? Our national records system has drawbacks and shortcomings, and will not allow us to exchange information in the manner in which we would like, for example, on criminals transferring residence from Donegal to Cork within our own jurisdiction. Obviously if we cannot get that right here, how can we participate in our obligations under this EU scheme? I would have thought we should have a single high-tech database which obviously has cost implications. Has the budget been ring-fenced or what are the cost implications of this matter?

The Minister referred to setting up a mechanism to check for criminal records information on EU nationals who are the subject of criminal investigation. I would have thought that we are dealing with more than just EU nationals and that we are also dealing with EU residents. I would have thought that anyone convicted of a crime in any EU state, regardless of whether he or she is an EU national, would be included in such a register. Not doing so would give rise to shortcomings in the system. It should deal with EU residents or people who commit crime in any EU state, regardless of whether they are EU nationals.

Having said that, I welcome the process and I acknowledge the Minister's participation in it. I hope we can ensure at an early date that we can have our EU sex-offenders database and that we can exchange information in respect of not only sex offenders — the main target — but also serious criminals who may be availing of free movement between states without having their criminal records acknowledged.

Time is of the essence. It is not true to say that exchanging information is something new. There is a substantial level of transfer of information. At present, across the EU a reply is issued within two to three weeks, on average. The new system, which will be in operation in mid-2010, within three years of the adoption at Justice and Home Affairs Council level, will bring that down to two or three days. It will speed up the process of investigation, which will be a big help for member states.

In 2007, the central authority here processed 101 requests. Of these, 80 were incoming and 21 were outgoing. There was a substantial increase in 2008 when 239 requests were processed by the central authority. Ireland made 57 requests and the others came from outside Ireland.

We have a criminal records office in Thurles. It inputs criminal records data received from gardaí throughout the State. Within the Courts Service, results of District Court cases are recorded on a criminal cases tracking system. A major project is in development, the criminal justice interoperability pilot project, the aim of which is to transfer all data electronically from the Garda to the District Courts. In return, the District Courts will provide all court outcomes to the Garda. Deputy Flanagan is correct. This does not apply to EU nationals only but to anyone convicted within the territory of the EU.

I support the motion on behalf of the Labour Party. I have three brief questions. If gardaí wish to obtain information regarding someone who has a record in another member state, how is that inquiry initiated and how is it completed?

What is the Trans European Services for Telematics between Administrations? I do not understand what that organisation is? Where will it be located and will there be Irish participation in it?

I am somewhat concerned by Article 4. It states that member states may provide information on whether there is exemption from criminal liability on grounds of insanity. A person may be dangerous but not convicted on grounds of insanity. Is it not important that we know that? Will member states not be obliged to retain information on their databases and provide that information where required? Why would full information on recidivism not be given?

With regard to Deputy O'Shea's last point, we will be making provision within our own system but other systems are different and may not necessarily retain similar information. We intend to keep such information and we are making provision in that regard.

Is the Minister saying some states might not have information regarding a recidivist sex offender? Is that a possibility?

It depends on the member state. We will be endeavouring to standardise the systems as much as possible. However, not every member state has the same criminal sanctions and convictions. There will be an effort to standardise systems as much as possible. There is a reference to persons who are not convicted but who are dangerous or insane. This relates to convictions only and does not relate to persons who might be suspected of anything.

If a person was found guilty but insane, would that be included in the database?

Once there is a conviction, it will be included.

There is a verdict of "not guilty by reason of insanity". To clarify the matter for Deputy O'Shea, that is effectively not a conviction.

It is not a conviction.

It is a special verdict; therefore, would it be recorded?

I understand it would not be.

Is that not a serious omission?

This deals primarily with criminal convictions. That is not to say there would not be some contact between member states regarding difficult cases, for example, suspected criminals. This is purely and simply about convictions. The S-TESTA framework is a computer package. There is no office. It is a package for standardising information across the 27 member states. It is initiated by the Garda Síochána but through a central authority in Ireland which is in the Department of Justice, Equality and Law Reform. A central authority will be designated in each of the other member states. That is how it is done and that will continue to be the case.

I welcome the draft Council decision on the European criminal records information system. I participated at a European level in some early research on the merit of drawing up a common European criminal record some years ago. I am pleased to see this coming to fruition. At the time we did the research there was concern among academics at European level about the potential for leakage of information and the need for safeguards against information on individuals being disclosed to other sources. I have two questions for the Minister. I do not see anything about safeguards. I presume they are built into the system in terms of confidentiality and so on. Deputy Flanagan spoke about the sex offenders registration provisions. Clearly, they are different in some countries. In some countries a level of public disclosure is permitted but that is not the case in Ireland. My first question, therefore, is about safeguards against disclosure of records and to whom records can be disclosed. I assume they can be disclosed only to the police, not to any other authorities in other member states.

The personal data received through ECRIS can be used only for the purpose of the criminal proceedings for which they have been requested. They cannot be used for any other purpose. Data forwarded through ECRIS are subject to the data protection laws of the member state receiving the information. Safeguards are contained in the original framework decision which will be adopted prior to the adoption of this decision.

Therefore, data protection safeguards will be adopted first.

My other question regarding this measure relates to the issue of comparison of offences. I know a great deal of work has been done in trying to standardise, but clearly there are different ways of categorising, particularly the most minor offences. Will information on road traffic convictions recorded against a citizen of another EU member state in Ireland be transmitted? Equally, will information on convictions of our citizens in connection with road traffic offences in other states be transmitted?

Yes. Road traffic accidents will be part of this.

Even the most minor offences.

Yes, once it is a criminal conviction.

I am conscious that offences that we would consider to be criminal are considered in Germany to be breaches of an administrative code. I have in mind matters such as prostitution and public order offences. Will they be recorded against, say, an Irish citizen——

If they are not regarded as criminal offences, they will not be recorded in the state in question.

Even if they would be recorded here.

There is one other point in that regard. In terms of correcting an error in the criminal record, I am conscious of cases here where people have been wrongly recorded under PULSE as having a conviction against them, for example, where it related to somebody with the same name or a family member. How will it be possible to make a correction if that information has been transmitted to another country?

Once we become aware of an incorrect recording, we will notify the other member states and they would have to change it. There is an obligation built into the legislation.

I have a final question on the Dublin Convention change. On page 5 of the Minister's paper on the Dublin procedure, he refers to proposed new elements——

We dealt with that issue earlier.

I am sorry, I missed it.

Does the Senator have any other questions?

In accordance with Dáil Standing Order 87 and Seanad Standing Order 72, the joint committee will report back to Dáil Éireann and Seanad Éireann to the effect that it has completed its consideration of the motion. Under Dáil Standing Order 86.2 and Seanad Standing Order 74.2, the message is deemed to be the report of the committee. Is it agreed that there should be no further debate on the matter by Dáil Éireann and Seanad Éireann? Agreed.

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