Within the last few years, in this country, unemployment has very seriously increased, and at the present time the Ministry of Industry and Commerce records—in fact, it was only yesterday I got the figures from the Minister—that there are at present 56,000 unemployed people in the Saorstát. The situation, which is a very unfortunate one, has been met hitherto by emigration of the surplus population to America and the Colonies but, as a result of the world depression, foreign Governments now have refused admittance to emigrants with the result that very large numbers of people are thrown out of work in this country and there is no work for them at present and they have no proper means of livelihood. The Government, I understand, has been very much concerned with this state of affairs and they have introduced several measures, such as road repairs and other similar measures by which they hope to alleviate the situation and also to find remunerative occupation for these people, obviating, if possible, the necessity for the direct distribution of money which is always a very objectionable thing. The present Bill is, I believe, one of the measures that the Government has introduced with the object of meeting, as far as it can, this matter of unemployment and with the permission of the House I should like to examine the proposals, if possible, to see if they meet the situation without throwing too heavy a burden upon the taxpayer.
In his opening speech, the Minister told us that the consumption of sugar in the Saorstát has been estimated at 100,000 tons a year, of which 80,000 tons are imported and 20,000 tons manufactured at Carlow by the Irish Sugar Manufacturing Company. The Carlow factory in its operation has been eminently satisfactory and, financially, has rewarded the enterprise of those who subscribed the capital with exceedingly good results. It is a matter for regret, however, that most of the profits of this enterprise have left the country. I have been informed that Czecho-Slovakia has been the fortunate recipient of the bulk of these profits. As already mentioned, the Free State imports 80,000 tons a year, of which the quay-side value, at £10 a ton, is £800,000, and, adding the customs duty of £12 a ton, imported sugar thus costs the importer, gross, say £22 a ton. The Carlow factory is in receipt of a subsidy of approximately £20 per ton of sugar manufactured and, after paying the farmers 39/- a ton for their beet and also, I understand, paying the Government an excise duty—I have not been able to make out whether that excise duty is the same as the customs duty on sugar coming into the country, but, if it is, it would be £12 a ton—and also after making adequate provision for the amortisation of capital and all manufacturing costs, the Irish Sugar Manufacturing Company has been able to make a net profit of £85,000 for the year 1932-33. This enabled it to pay its shareholders a dividend of 10 per cent., and to present a balance sheet with a reserve of £416,000 of floating assets. I think the House will admit that that is a very creditable performance.
The Government now propose to build three new factories for sugar manufacture at, I understand, a cost of £1,250,000 and also to pay 35/- per ton for beet of 17½ per cent. sugar content, to pay no subsidy, and also to levy or credit themselves—as they will really be the owners of the company— with an excise duty of £12 a ton. They also propose to set aside annually an adequate sum for amortisation of the capital and to pay, out of the proceeds or profits of manufacture, 4 per cent. on the capital involved.
It has been estimated that, taking all these outgoings into consideration, sugar can be produced at a price not exceeding £21 a ton—that, I think, was the figure the Minister gave us yesterday—or somewhat less than the cost of the imported sugar. As compared with Carlow the new Government factories should do well. There will be no subsidy, and there should be a surplus profit over and above the 4 per cent. the Government propose to pay as interest on the capital of the company. The Minister also stated—I do not think he stated it in this House but he certainly did in the Dáil—that the consumer may be called upon to pay an extra ½d. per lb. for his sugar; that is ½d. per lb. more than he has hitherto been accustomed to pay. This, to me, would seem to be hardly necessary. In fact, one might hope that with careful organisation and good management it would be possible to manufacture sugar locally in these new factories which could be retailed to the public at a price below the price that is at present being charged. We shall have our own experience of Carlow to help us in the proposed extensions of sugar production, and as well I am sure the Minister has not failed to examine the results of the very much larger development of this industry in England. A few recent figures in this connection may be of interest to the House. The acreage in England now under sugar beet is approximately 364,000 acres which is an increase of 43 per cent. over last year. The Government subsidy is now £6 10s. only per ton of sugar manufactured, and the price paid to the farmer for sugar beet has been fixed at from 35/- to 40/- per ton, which depends on the locality, based on a sugar content of 15½ per cent. It will thus be realised that the Minister's proposals for an extension of the industry in the Free State are on a more generous basis.
In the interests of all concerned, it is of great importance that the economic factors should be studied in connection with this new development. I may remind the House that in England the sugar beet industry has cost the taxpayer between the years 1924 and 1932 the sum of over £24,000,000 sterling, and the figures also show that for every man employed in the fields or in the factories in the sugar beet industry the taxpayers have to find 25/- per man per day.
To sum up, we may hope that when the proposals embraced in this Bill are in operation some £800,000 a year which now leaves the Saorstát to pay for imported sugar will be retained in the country: that the heavy bounty now provided by the taxpayers in support of the subsidised industry will not be required in connection with the new extensions and, what is almost more important, that employment will be provided both in the fields and in the factories for a large number of those now out of work and that all this will be in the production of a commodity that the experience of the last six or seven years has shown can be very successfully manufactured in this State. I also hope that with further experience it may be found possible to considerably reduce the price of sugar under this new enterprise to the consumers in this country. I support and welcome the Bill.