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Seanad Éireann debate -
Wednesday, 13 Dec 1950

Vol. 39 No. 2

Tortfeasors Bill, 1950—Second Stage.

Question proposed: "That the Bill be now read a Second Time."

This Bill might be said to have its origin in certain proposals for the amendment of the law relating to torts contained in a Private Member's Bill which was moved in Dáil Éireann as long ago as 1941 by the present Taoiseach who was then a Private Deputy on the opposition side of the House. The fate of that particular Bill need not, I think, concern us now, except that I might say my predecessor accepted the principle of the Bill and it was referred to a private committee. The present Bill deals in a somewhat more comprehensive manner with the matters affecting the common law relating to torts that were covered by the Bill introduced in 1941 by Deputy Costello as he then was.

Of necessity, the Bill is, by reason of its subject matter, somewhat technical in character. Senators will no doubt have read the explanatory memorandum which was circulated with the Bill, and I feel that there is not much that I can add by way of explanation to what has been said in the memorandum. There are a few points, however, which I would like to make, if the House will bear with me for a little while.

The principal change which the Bill proposes to make in the existing law is to provide for contribution between tortfeasors. Under an archaic and outworn principle of the common law which we have inherited, there can at present be no contribution between tortfeasors. This is a serious defect in our law, which is capable of working considerable hardship and of being made the subject of grave abuses. If, for example, a passenger in a motor car receives a serious injury as a result of an accident involving the car in which he is travelling and another vehicle and, if he obtains judgment for damages, which may be substantial, against the owners of both cars, he can if he likes look to one of the owners for the whole of the damages and costs in the action and that particular owner, though he may have been by far the least culpable party in the accident, has in the present state of law no redress whatsoever against his co-tort-feasor who was far more to blame than him. This kind of case has been known to happen. Still worse, the present state of the law permits of, and indeed encourages, positive abuses because one of two or more defendants, against whom substantial damages may have been awarded, can bribe the successful plaintiff to pursue another defendant or defendants for recovery of the whole of the damages or costs.

I feel sure that the House will agree that it is time that the law in this matter was changed. The remedy proposed in the Bill is to provide for contribution between tortfeasors. The two possible kinds of cases are provided for, namely, the case in which all the tortfeasors are joined as defendants in the one action, which is covered by Section 4, and, secondly, the case in which separate actions are taken against the tortfeasors, which is provided for in Section 5. In the first type of case it is provided by Section 4 that the full damages and costs may be apportioned among the defendants according to the extent to which they are respectively found responsible for the injury. It may be noted that, where the action was tried with a jury, the power of apportionment will lie with the jury.

In the second type of case, that is, where there are separate actions, any tortfeasor who has paid any sum on foot of a judgment obtained against him is given the right, under Section 5, to recover a contribution from any other tortfeasor who may be held to be liable. I would like to stress that the right to recover a contribution under Section 5 will operate against a person who may not have been sued at all by the injured party so that there will be no possibility of one of the tortfeasors escaping liability through collusion between him and the injured party.

The Bill does not deprive an injured party of the right which he now has to look for the whole of the damages to any one or more of the persons responsible for the injury, but, as I have explained, the position of the tortfeasors is being improved by the conferring of the right of contribution between themselves.

The other amendment of the law which is being made by the Bill, while important in itself is, in a sense, incidental to the main change which the Bill proposes. This is the provision in Section 2 which seeks to do away with the rather artificial distinction that exists under the common law between the case in which the wrongdoers are joint tortfeasors and the case in which they are not joint tortfeasors. Where the wrongdoers are joint tortfeasors, an action against one of them resulting in a judgment for the plaintiff operates as a bar against further proceedings against any of the other tortfeasors, even though the injured party may have failed to recover any thing from the person whom he has sued. Section 2 remedies this position.

The Bill, being, as I have said, a somewhat technical one can, perhaps, be more appropriately discussed on Committee Stage, when any points of detail which Senators may wish to raise can be dealt with.

Before I finish I would like, with the permission of the Chair, to say a word or two on the question of law reform generally. It is, I think, generally accepted that what I might describe, for want of a better term, as the private law of the country, that is to say, the law that regulates relations between individual citizens as distinct from administrative law, stands in need of amendment in many respects. To quote a few examples, there is the bankruptcy law, the companies law, the law relating to intestacies, the law relating to the capacities and rights of married women and the law governing arbitration proceedings. Our statute law, as is well-known, is badly in need of consolidation and modernisation and Senators will recall in this connection that only a few years ago special Orders were passed for both the Dáil and Seanad to facilitate the passage of consolidation Bills. The scheme then envisaged has not, unfortunately shown any great results in practice to date. With the single exception of the recent measure dealing with local government law, there has been no statute law revision in this country since 1922, a fact which speaks for itself.

The occasion of the introduction of the present Bill affords, I think, a suitable opportunity for me to refer to the decision that has recently been taken to establish a new and separate branch of the Attorney-General's Office which will concentrate entirely on statute law revision and consolidation, while leaving the Parliamentary Draftman's Office, as we know it, free to deal with the ordinary day-to-day legislation. The new branch which will deal with proposals for the reform of the law as well as preparing the actual legislation and which will involve some additions to the personnel of the Attorney-General's Office, will come into being in the course of the next few months and we may hope for a steady flow of measures of consolidation and of reform to engage the time of the Dáil and Seanad for a number of years. In the meantime we may, I suggest, regard the present Bill as a first instalment in the field of law reform and as something upon which, if I may be permitted to use a homely metaphor, we as legislators may "cut our teeth" in preparation for further measures dealing with such matters as arbitration, the legal status of married women, intestate estates and other matters. Bills to deal with the matters I have mentioned specifically just now will, I think be laid before the Oireachtas in the near future.

As the Minister has pointed out this is a very technical Bill and I think it could be best dealt with on the Committee Stage, which I would suggest should be taken on the next day on which the House is sitting. I welcome the statement of the Minister, though I do not believe any other group would welcome any statement which means more work for them, that he is taking steps to have the very essential work of law reform carried out.

While welcoming this Bill I would say that I welcome still more the Minister's statement that we are going to have a complete revision of the laws of this country. This is a work which has been necessary for almost 30 years, and has been neglected in this country by successive administrations. In the last 50 years many changes have taken place which have rendered revision of the laws in many directions desirable, and in fact necessary. This Bill is just as the Minister said, a corner of a great field which has to be covered. The example which the Minister gave in regard to motor accidents is a well-known one, and one in which a great deal of injustice has been done in recent years, particularly in regard to non-contribution by joint tortfeasors and the right of choosing which defendant to proceed against. The same thing applies in the case of the law of libel, where the distributor is joined with the publisher and author, and sometimes the distributor is heavily mulcted while the publisher and author may escape scot free. These are the types of injustice which this Bill can provide against. It is well to emphasise that this Bill takes away no rights from anybody which already exist. I think the Bill will spread the penalty of wrongdoing more evenly.

The Minister has referred to other directions in which the law needs to be changed and brought up to date. These include Lord Campbell's Act, the Company Acts, the bankruptcy law, laws relating to intestacies, the laws relating to the rights of married women, all of which need revision in many particulars. As the Minister stated, there has been no statute consolidation since 1922 and undoubtedly with the change of times and conditions many statutes need revision. The law in this country, that is the common law, is based on English common law and even the most extreme separatist could scarcely jib at that. We are part of one of the two great legal systems in the world and we share in the same system as the British Dominions and the United States of America. Therefore, as regards our legal system we are in line with the most progressive and best governed countries in the world. The common law owes a great deal to Irishmen. We have had a succession of great judges in Ireland and we have a legal system under which up to the time of the Treaty many important legal cases were decided in the Irish courts and many of the greatest exponents of the common law were Irishmen. It would be invidious to mention names, but there is one which stands out and that is Chief Justice Baron Palles. This country has contributed a great deal in the past to the development of the common law and will no doubt continue to do so in the future. The common law in England has been reformed in many directions whereas the Irish law has not. We have to-day the strange paradoxical situation that this country is that in which the old English common law flourishes in its purest form. Because of that strange situation, law students in Ireland are searching the bookshops for early editions of English text-books, which have become out of date in England.

I do not suggest we should slavishly follow every reform taking place in England. That would be a wrong suggestion. At the same time, there is something to be said for not letting the legal systems of the two countries drift too far apart. At least we should examine changes in the English law with the object of seeing whether certain of them might not be appropriate here. The two countries have many points of contact in business and trade, and people travelling to and fro. So many contracts apply to both countries that it is undesirable, from the public point of view, that the legal codes should differ more than is absolutely necessary. In spite of the events of the past 30 years, there still remains a considerable amount of mobility in the legal profession between the two countries, and the professional qualifications of each country are still accepted to some extent as entitling people to practise in the other. Therefore I cannot help feeling that there is something to be said for having as much approximation of the law in these two systems as is resasonably possible.

That is why I welcome the statement that a new branch of the Attorney-General's Office is to be set up. The work to be done by this office is long overdue. The Minister said the work of the additional office was statute law consolidation and reform, but I rather gathered from something he said later that the function is much wider, that they will have regard not only to the consolidation of the statute law but to reform—modernisation might be the correct word—of the common law as well. This Bill has nothing to say to statute law. There is no statute law referred to in the course of the Bill. It deals entirely with the common law which in this respect has not changed for hundreds of years.

I hope this new Attorney-General's committee will, as I gathered from the later remarks of the Minister, roam over the whole field and that the Seanad will have lots to do in that respect. The Irish law is badly in need of overhaul and I, for one, welcome the news of the change which is about to take place.

I wish also to welcome the statement made by the Minister and the very interesting speech of my colleague, Senator O'Brien, on this subject. Anyone who meets legal practitioners or business people knows that some parts of our law are extremely defective, notably, I gather, bankruptcy law and certain aspects of our company law. I think the Minister is well-advised to endeavour to relieve the Parliamentary Draftman's Office of this matter and put it into a section of the Attorney-General's Office, as the Parliamentary Draftsman's Office, since 1922, has been overburdened with current legislation. Every Government that came into office said repeatedly they were against legislation, but just as firmly proceeded to act against their own statements by bringing in all kinds of legislation; and indeed every Opposition was nearly as bad as every Government in that direction, as every Opposition also claimed we should have less legislation and at once asked that legislation be introduced to deal with this and this and this. Therefore, any prospect of amending the law in the very big field where there are no politics and where there are no differences between political parties has been, as Senator Professor O'Brien has indicated, very much neglected. We should be conscious of the fact that there is a very large range of topics upon which people could get together to pool their intelligence and their wisdom and make united efforts to give us a better system of law, apart altogether from what their political feelings are about day to day economic or other problems. So far as this suggestion of consolidation goes— which was originally made, I think, in the time of the last Government, some years ago, and which we were all very glad to hear then—it is good to hear that the work is being tackled now and that an endeavour is being made to do it by creating a branch of the Attorney-General's Office and not by cluttering up the Parliamentary Draftman's Office still further.

In that connection, it would be desirable that a good deal of that legislation should be introduced here and get a preliminary committee examination in this House before going to the other House. We should take this particular Bill in committee after Christmas. When this class of Bill, which interests a particular profession or particular type of people, is introduced here, those people are rather slow in bringing their views to the House about defects they may find in it. I am sure we all would welcome suggestions from such people with regard to this or anything that may seem upon examination by an experienced person, to be desirable by way of amendment. I think it would be desirable to postpone the Committee Stage until after Christmas.

There are other branches of the law besides those mentioned by the Minister. I did not like the Minister's concluding metaphor: I do not like to be invited to get my teeth into the rights of married women. It would be rather a tough proposition for people who have had our experience. Apart from bankruptcy law, company law and intestacy, of which I have had some experience, there is the income-tax code. I do not know if the Minister for Justice is sufficiently daring, in spite of his well-known bravery, to go into that particular region. We are working on an Act of 1918, to which there have been certain amendments in Finance Acts. In Britain they have gone in not for complete consolidation but for certain improvements in the law. Some endeavour might be made to consolidate our income-tax code.

The proposal generally is a very welcome one, and one which will give us the opportunity of doing a job which, in spite of criticism directed against the two Houses from certain quarters, the two Houses are rather good at, that is, intelligent discussion and amendment of laws which do not present any political difficulties or in which political difficulties are of practically no significance. I welcome this Bill. I suggest that we discuss it after Christmas and also that, when general law reform is being carried through, the Bills should be introduced here, for the purpose of getting a first discussion on them before they go to the other House and for the purpose of relieving the other House at a time when it is engaged on financial business and when this House is not meeting frequently.

I am grateful to the House for the manner in which they have received this proposal and, of course, I readily agree to the suggestion that the Committee Stage be postponed until after the Christmas recess. I do not think that there is anything that I have to say except to confirm the interpretation put on the proposal that the work of the proposed section in the Attorney-General's Office is to revise, consolidate, and so on— to have a full review of the existing law. Whether that would apply to the income-tax code or not, I would willingly undertake the task if let. I am only one of a team. I have to bow my soldierly head, as you express it here, to the opinions of others. However, I have noted the point. I will certainly bring these particular aspects of the law of reform to the notice of the section that is dealing with the matter. I did feel very deflated during the Inter-Parliamentary Union here, when certain Ministers or representatives of other countries asked me what steps we had taken towards law reform and consolidation and I had to simply say: "Nothing." I did not like to say it. I said while a lot of us may have fought against the code we took over in the past it was not too bad at all.

Question put and agreed to.
Committee Stage ordered for first sitting after Christmas Recess.
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