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Seanad Éireann debate -
Wednesday, 9 Nov 1988

Vol. 121 No. 5

Multilateral Investment Guarantee Agency Bill, 1988: Second Stage.

Question proposed: "That the Bill be now read a Second Time."

Is aoibhinn liom bheith ar ais arís chun an mBille seo a chur fé bhráid an Teach seo.

The purpose of this Bill is to approve the terms of the Convention establishing the Multilateral Investment Guarantee Agency and to enable this country to honour the financial and other obligations associated with membership of that agency.

The Multilateral Investment Guarantee Agency, usually referred to as MIGA, came into being last April and is the most recent member of the World Bank group. Its primary function is to encourage investment flows to developing countries by providing insurance guarantees against non-commercial risks. Four types of risk are specified in the convention: the currency transfer risk resulting from host government restrictions and delays in converting and transferring local currency earned by an investor, expropriation and similar measures, breach of contract and the risk of war and civil disturbance.

The idea of establishing an agency such as MIGA emerged in the 1950s. While various proposals were discussed within the World Bank on a number of occasions, no concrete steps towards realisation of the concept were taken until the beginning of this decade. The onset of the debt crisis, and the dramatic reduction in commercial bank financing, clearly provided added impetus to the development of a scheme which was designed to encourage the growth of foreign direct investment in developing countries. The draft convention establishing MIGA was finalised by the Executive Directors of the World Bank in September 1985 and the resolution opening the convention for signature was passed by the board of governors of that institution in October, 1985. Ireland, along with the majority of our EC partners, subsequently signed the convention in the following year, 1986.

To date, the MIGA Convention has been ratified by 44 States, representing just under 64 per cent of the agency's capital. Major industrial countries such as Canada, Germany, Japan, the United Kingdom and the United States are all members. For the many developing countries which have joined, membership of MIGA is seen as an important signal to potential investors of their willingness to take whatever reasonable measures might be required for them to attract more foreign direct investment into their economies.

MIGA is, in essence, an investment insurer. A number of countries have official schemes which provide guarantees similar to MIGA to their nationals for investments in developing countries. MIGA will complement these existing schemes. Moreover, its multilateral dimension is bound to give it a particular status and should engender confidence in its activities among both the developed and the developing nations.

MIGA's guarantee operations will extend to a wide range of investments. These will include equity investments, different forms of direct investment and medium or long-term loans made or guaranteed by the owners of equity in the enterprise concerned. While retrospective cover will not be available, investments made to develop an existing investment, or to reinvest earnings which might otherwise be transferred outside the host country will be eligible for cover. Under certain circumstances, the reinvestment of what is commonly referred to as flight capital may also be eligible. The extent of MIGA's guarantee operations is a testimony to the agency's commitment to ensuring that available investment opportunities are acted upon where possible.

It is envisaged that the developed and developing countries will be fully equal partners within the organisation of MIGA. It is the intention that voting power will be split evenly between the two groups and, in judging whether or not a particular investment should be guaranteed, the agency will assess both its financial soundness and its contribution to the economic and social development of the host country. Furthermore, no contract of guarantee may be concluded without the approval of the host country concerned. In this way, that country will be able to evaluate the proposed investment and ensure that it does not run counter to its overall development needs.

I have spoken about MIGA's guarantee function. However, there is also another important aspect to MIGA's operations which relates to the promotion of investment flows. This facility includes the provision of technical assistance to a member with the objective of improving investment conditions. The agency will also conduct research and make information available on investment opportunities in developing member countries, thereby enabling potential investors to be kept fully informed of developments in these areas.

Part of MIGA's importance lies in the fact that it is an integral part of the World Bank Group. In particular, it will complement the International Finance Corporation which shares MIGA's aim but which strives to achieve it mainly through investing in companies in developing countries. With MIGA's establishment, the World Bank Group is in a position to offer a valuable and extensive range of services to its members.

Provision has been made for MIGA to have an initial share capital of $1.082 billion. Ten per cent of the price of the subscribed shares is to be paid in cash and 10 per cent in promissory notes, both within 90 days of a country ratifying the convention. The balance of 80 per cent will be subject to call by the agency to meet any exceptional obligations that might arise. The agency is expected to build up its reserves over time and to be largely self-financing. In consequence, it is unlikely that there will be recourse either to the promissory notes or to the callable capital. Ireland's initial paid-in contribution, which will amount to approximately £0.275 million, will be paid from the Central Fund and will count as part of our Official Development Assistance programme. Our maximum liability under the scheme is £2.75 million.

No one in this House will deny the seriousness of the debt problem which confronts many developing countries. Their plight is not helped by the fact that in recent years commercial bank flows have fallen significantly. MIGA, in itself, does not purport to offer a solution to the difficulties which beset these countries, and which require a global response from both the countries themselves and from the industrial nations. However, by fostering a climate favourable to investment in developing countries, MIGA can play an important part in helping them to attain adequate levels of growth. Such growth is essential if their citizens are to escape from poverty and deprivation and enjoy a decent standard of living.

The benefits of the direct foreign investment in developing countries which will be covered by MIGA are manifold. In the first place, as I have already indicated, any investment insured by MIGA must have the imprimatur of the host country concerned. This will ensure that such investment activity accords with the recipients wishes. Secondly, this direct investment will have a quick-acting beneficial impact in terms of output and employment. Thirdly, it will not give rise to additional debt servicing liabilities for the host country and it may be a source of much-needed foreign exchange. Finally, additional benefits may also accrue in the form of technology transfers, modern management skills and marketing expertise.

MIGA's aims are pragmatic and business-oriented. As I mentioned before, the agency only came into being last April and is obviously at a very early stage in its development. The Bill before the House, by enabling us to ratify the convention, will ensure that we can play our part in providing this important service to developing countries.

In concluding my remarks, I should like to run briefly through the sections of the Bill. Section 1 defines various terms. Section 2 provides for the approval of the terms of the convention. Section 3 provides for the financial arrangements associated with our membership. Section 4 provides for the recognition of MIGA's subrogation rights. In other words, where the agency pays compensation to an investor, it is then entitled to assume the rights of that investor against the host country where the investment was located. Section 5 ensures that arbitration judgments involving MIGA will have the force of law in this country. Section 6 contains the short title to the Bill. The terms of the convention itself are set out in the Schedule.

I recommend this Bill for the approval of the House.

The Minister, in the course of this full explanation, indicated that this Bill is a pragmatic and business-oriented measure, which it is in one sense. I will, in the course of my contribution, deal with what I want to describe as the relatively desiccated side of the facts and figures, the accountancy measures, the insurance, the investment, and so on. There is another side to this, and that is why I find it somewhat strange that this measure is being introduced by a Minister of State from the Department of Finance. Because this measure is so closely inter-related with overseas development and with foreign affairs, I would like to have seen it perhaps in some way become the remit of the Minister for Foreign Affairs, or at least the Minister of State with responsibility for development co-operation.

While I understand it is a financial measure, nevertheless I feel that really to talk about the nuts and bolts of this we need somebody who is prepared to devote some time in consideration of this measure to speak about overseas development aid and what it means in the Third World countries to the people on the ground for whom presumably, it is designated. I think it is important to cover this.

At the outset I would like to give recognition to the fact that the deputy leader of my own party, Deputy John Bruton, when Minister for Finance was involved in the negotiations which led to the establishment of MIGA. It is important to recognise that fact and to pay tribute to his concern and to the very earnest way in which he promoted the establishment of MIGA.

The international convention establishing the Multilateral Investment Guarantee Agency, MIGA — an organisation that will help developing countries attract productive foreign investment — become effective in April 1988. We are to be members of it. It will enable us to honour our financial commitments by virtue of our membership of this agency, which is, of course, the most recent member of the World Bank group and all the major industrial countries. To date some seven of our EC partners have signed up.

Ireland has a good and honourable tradition in relation to its World Bank membership and in its contacts with the various affiliate bodies of the World Bank. We have to remember that primarily we are involved because we recognise the fact that developing countries need foreign direct investment. Why do they need it? They need it for many of the same reasons for which we need it to some degree or other, such as for expansion, for development, for growth and to help in employment and in the balance of payments. Investors on the other side have certain needs also in addition to the obvious one of profit motive. They also need, in Third World countries, certain insurance guarantees against non-commercial risk.

I was very interested to read in the World Bank annual report for 1988, a list of what exactly the risks were which led to the need to establish MIGA. I would like to place those risks on the record of the House. They are the transfer risk resulting from post-Government restrictions on currency conversion and transfer, and the risk of loss resulting from legislative or administrative actions and omissions of the host government that would have the effect of depriving the foreign investor of his ownership or control of, or substantial benefits from his investment, the repudiation by government of contracts with investors in cases in which the investor has no access to a competent forum, faces unreasonable delays in such a forum, or is unable to enforce a judicial decision issued in his favour, and the risk of armed conflict and civil unrest. MIGA provides a safety net or a cushion against the eventuality of the risks I have outlined from the World Bank annual report.

We, in Fine Gael, have always had a principled, steady and growing commitment to development co-operation. We initiated the Ministry of State at the Department of Foreign Affairs with special responsibility for co-operation with developing countries. For one brief period when Deputy Haughey was Taoiseach in the early 1980s he abolished that ministry. He called it superfluous and supernumerary, which I thought were unthinking, unfeeling, harsh and, indeed, callous words and an extraordinary approach to what the Irish people quite evidently saw as a most important ministry and as a most important focus for their generosity, concern and care. I am pleased he has had second thoughts.

At the moment we have a Minister at that Department with special responsibility for development co-operation. I must say — I do not mean this in any personal sense, because I am sure the Minister does the best he can within the financial restraints imposed on him — I find the actual activity in that area to be somewhat lacklustre and disappointing. It is a criticism that I have voiced before and I have not noted any particular dynamism, thrust, activity or energy coming from that area. There are many people outside who care deeply about Third World issues and who look to government for an appropriate response. It is a clear case of the people being light years ahead of the politicians in terms of involvement, fund raising, knowledge and activity.

Senator Bulbulia, you are well aware of how far you can criticise either a Taoiseach of today or yesterday or a Minister when they are not here to defend themselves. I am sure the Senator appreciates that.

I appreciate it. I was quite careful to say that I was not making any personal criticisms but that I was merely criticising actions. It is very important that people in politics are able to separate criticism of actions from criticisms of individuals. I hope that as long as I may be in politics I am able to make that distinction. I feel that my criticisms are valid. I have made them before. I hope I do not have to make them again but, if necessary, I will not hesitate to do so because part of my function in being a Member of the Oireachtas is to be able to raise my voice in legitimate criticism, provided I can sustain, justify and argue that criticism reasonably well and ably.

I am back again to discussing the Irish people and their very generous response. They have a right to expect that their politicians will reflect their wishes and their aspirations. That is a basic tenet of democracy. That expectation should result in a decent allocation of resources to save people who are starving. We saw evidence of that starvation and disaster on television last night on the nine o'clock news. Pictures came from Sudan. They were poignant, heartrending and disturbing in the extreme. We must remember that they form the backdrop against which we speak when we concern ourselves with the debate on ODA and MIGA, all of which is tied in together.

I want this country to be a witness and an example to Europe and to the world in its ability to show its genuine concern. The people do that. The people give witness over and over again of that genuine concern and commitment. This Government have failed. Last year there were savage cuts and this year it is not much better. I propose to speak about that in a few moments.

I would like to refer to the area of the country that I know best and to demonstrate awareness, compassion, and a practical outpouring of all of those feelings in relation to Third World matters. I speak about Waterford which for some ten years has been involved in a development partnership with Kitui in Kenya. Tremendous amounts of funds, expertise and material have flowed from Waterford to Kitui in Kenya. Over and above all that, there has been an education programme on the factory floor, in the office, in the schools, in every forum in that city and county. This has led to a heightening in Waterford of awareness of the needs of Third World countries. I would like to pay tribute to the founder members of the Waterford Kitui partnership and to those who have, with unremitting zeal and tireless enthusiasm, kept up this venture over a ten year period. That is one activity that is taking place in Waterford.

In September the Mayor of Waterford who is a member of the Minister of State's party, launched an appeal. It was called "Let September Stand for Sudan". The idea was to collect as much money as possible specifically for Sudan, bearing in mind that other moneys are flowing out continuously to Kitui in Kenya. This was an additional activity with a Third World bias. That project "Let September Stand for Sudan", as late as yesterday when the final amounts of money were coming in, realised £93,000. That was four times the initial target. The cheque was handed over a little while ago to John O'Shea of GOAL who was the very pleased recipient of that.

I want to pay tribute to all the people who rode in behind that appeal to the Mayor who unhesitatingly launched it and backed it, to all the people who donated and to those who slogged around on a house-to-house campaign, to those who had cake sales, to those who organised fasts, bible readings, soup kitchens and tennis marathons. Out in Tramore, a satellite town, the town commissioners got busy and supported it. That town alone brought in £6,000. The Active Retirement Group in Waterford city and its environs raised £8,000. They had a caravan down in the square in Barrowstrand Street, in the triangle. The children of the town got together and in a very imaginative exercise joined hands, which was symbolic in so many ways, right around the People's Park. They looked for sponsorship for that and raised £8,000.

Credit must be given to such amazing, constructive, wholehearted generosity. That is just an illustration of the generosity of the people of Ireland based in the area I know best and where I work day in, day out. It makes all the more shocking and disturbing the lack of commitment and the poor record which this Government have in the area of overseas aid, despite introducing this measure here today. I see the Minister shaking his head. I do not expect the Minister will agree with me, but nevertheless I will continue.

I will point out the facts later on.

Of course you will. That is what debate is all about. I look forward to that. Again, I want to consider the Government's callousness in not meeting our development aid commitments. We have not fulfilled the target of contributing 0.7 per cent of GNP. We are now well below the 0.3 per cent average for OECD countries. If the industrialised countries had lived up to their aid targets, the Third World debt problem would have been solved by now, or at least it would have been well on the way to being solved. We have got to remember that and to recognise it in all that we say.

Something strikes me as being disturbing about this Bill. I notice that one of the countries listed as having membership and having paid subscriptions is South Africa. It is to me the supreme irony, that South Africa should involve itself in a project like this when it is engaged in a policy within its own country which is so immoral as to defy description and when it is busy destabilising all the frontline states and causing havoc and chaos in the region. It is extraordinary that it would have been considered fitting for membership of MIGA. I hope the Minister in some way in his reply can indicate why South Africa is a member of MIGA. Does he think there is something ironic about that? Has Ireland expressed its concern? Has it voiced its objections? Does the Minister feel there is anything constructive or concrete that we can do about this?

To go back to the figures of ODA for this year, I understand that we were able to increase slightly our ODA by £1 million to £33.7 million. We have got to remember that the cut last year was 26 per cent. I am sure the Minister has not forgotten that there was widespread anger and indignation at that cut. Every concerned body, grouping and voluntary organisation voiced its dismay and anger in the aftermath of that announcement.

It is very difficult to list organisations because there is always the difficulty that you will leave one out but I would like to pay tribute to the major organisations concerned such as Trocaire, GOAL, Comhlamh — the returned development workers' organisation — and the very many other bodies who involve themselves in this area and who, in addition to co-ordinating fund-raising and seeing that disaster relief is rapidly put in place, also had a programme of public education. In particular I want to place on record the fact that Trocaire, in alerting people to the human rights which lie behind the necessity to fund Third World projects and to get involved on the ground, do us proud. They perform an enormous service for all of us.

I am unhappy, too, about the fact that a token sum has been put in again this year for disaster relief. Of course, we are back then to boosting that from time to time with allocations from the national lottery. There was a debate about that during the summer. The bottom line taken appeared to be that people in Third World countries would not really mind where the money was coming from so long as they got the necessary and desired relief.

I can see a certain very basic logic in that but it is not a view to which I would subscribe. If we feel that it is moral, proper and right and is part of our feeling about the brotherhood of mankind, it is only right that our allocation to the Third World should form part of our Estimate and part of our budget. Our contribution from the lottery fund to give moneys to disaster relief in the Third World should not be on a par with moneys given to golf clubs or community facilities. It begs a very basic principle. I am unhappy that we should have slipped into a situation where we just slot in a small sum as a token for disaster relief and then think that it is all right to beef it up from the lottery funding as and when necessary. I do not think it is a principled approach. I do not think it reflects the wishes of the Irish people. I would like to place that on record.

I could go over the ground the Minister has so well covered in his speech about the various mechanics of MIGA but that is all in the explanatory memorandum and it would be repetitious of me. I know there are other people who wish to make a contribution to the debate.

Basically, this Bill enables this Government and this country to comply with its financial and other obligations of membership of the Multilateral Investment Guarantee Agency, or as it is known for short MIGA. We are one of the major industrialised countries. Included with us are many of our EC partners who have joined this particular Investment Guarantee Agency. This move is consistent with our belief and our support for the World Bank. It is true to say that we have for a long time been a strong and loyal supporter of the World Bank. We have long realised the great benefits to so many countries of the world as a result of the activities of the bank.

This new agency, as the Minister has indicated, is the most recent member of the World Bank group, being established last April. Hopefully, MIGA will complement the activities and priorities of all the organisations involved in this particular kind of work. The main objective of MIGA is to help create or encourage foreign, direct investment in developing countries. To achieve this foreign investment, I believe that potential investors must be provided with the kind of financial guarantees that are important in areas of civil unrest, in the area of insurance, which was referred to by the Minister, and in respect of all the other hazards associated with trading in the developing nations. Indeed I know, from personal experience, that the insurance industry in these countries needs a lot of attention. It is my opinion that many potential investors will not get involved in the activities of developing countries because of these particular insurance problems.

We have all heard the expression that the world is badly divided. It is an old expression and it is very true; it is particularly apt in this debate in respect of the developed versus developing nations of the world. I read recently an investment commentary for the month ending 28 September 1988 and I will quote one paragraph from it:

September was a good month for financial markets. Among the major equity markets Wall Street rose around 6 per cent, as did London, while Tokyo only managed to rise 1.4 per cent. European markets were also very strong. The rise in New York and London can be put down to an improvement in sentiment as the U.S. trade deficit for July at $9.5 billion and the August U.K. figure at £1.3 billion were both better than expected.

I am not saying that that kind of activity is not necessary. The worries expressed in that commentary reflect the problems of the super developed economies, the rich countries of the world. We are all aware of the problems, for example, the Stock Market crash of October 1987 which had implications for the economies of many of these rich countries. One half of the world does not know how the other half lives. For example, the pet food market of the world is worth £10 billion while in some countries of the world hundreds of thousands of children die annually from starvation.

Investment is vital in Third World countries if growth and development are to take place. We are told that conditions have improved in parts of Asia. We know, for example, that there are problems in Sudan, Bangladesh, Ethiopia and in parts of South America and Africa which have resulted in a lower standard of life, in disease, starvation and death. If we are to prevent tragedies such as those we have seen depicted on our television screens in countries such as Ethiopia, Bangladesh and others and if we are to prevent scenes such as the ones we saw on our television screens last night from Sudan, then foreign investment is essential in order to eliminate the horrors in these regions. We cannot continue to allow this to continue.

It is right and proper on an occasion like this that we express suitable words of praise for the many voluntary organisations like Concern, Trocaire, GOAL, Gorta and others who are doing great work in these countries. Who will ever forget the activities of Bob Geldof? He is a world hero as a result and rightly so. We should not forget also the great work which is being done by so many volunteers in parts of the Third World. I know of one volunteer working with Concern from my own town, a young nurse by the name of Maura Mannion, and I am aware of the kind of work she does, around the clock, in saving lives, and fighting disease in the most primitive conditions. We could talk for a very long time about the conditions, the poverty, the squalor, the disease and the deaths from starvation in these centres but, as Senator Bulbulia rightly pointed out, we can learn more from what our television screens can show us in two minutes than from all the words we could write or state. As I said, last night's television programme on Sudan said it all. Meanwhile, the super powers continue to hoard food mountains. America, we are told, will burn its grain rather than let its price drop. While this mentality prevails, unfortunately the problems of the Third World will continue.

It is my opinion that the Irish people have responded, as individuals, magnificently to pleas for aid for the Third World. Senator Bulbulia outlined what happened in her particular region. This kind of activity is happening in many other parts of the country and long may it continue. I hope that the Government, who I know would like to give more money, will do so to the Third World when the finances of this country improve so that we can play a greater role in this particular area. Under this Bill we will contribute, compared to other nations, only a trickle of funds, as the Minister indicated our share allocation in MIGA is 369 shares, at a total cost of £2.75 million from a capital base of MIGA $1.082 billion. Indeed of the figure of £2.75 million, only 10 per cent will be paid in cash. It is expected, and we would hope, that MIGA will operate on a commercial basis and will be financed largely from premiums charged to investors seeking guarantees and from returns on investments.

There could be many new investment opportunities for investors in developing countries particularly if a favourable investment climate can be created. One of the main aims of MIGA should be to work for the creation of a good investment climate in countries where it operates. I would like to think that the profits made in these developing countries would be ploughed back into them rather than whipped away back to the base country. The success of MIGA will be gauged by the amount of finance it can introduce in developing countries. I hope it will be successful. Developing countries will see direct foreign investment as a way of creating new jobs, of reducing bank lending, and the advent of new marketing and new technology skills. I am sure they will welcome such investment for many other obvious good reasons.

This is a Bill we could talk about for a long time. I know the Minister and the rest of us could elaborate on the squalor, poverty, starvation and deaths in Third World countries but I would just like to conclude by wishing the agency well and to congratulate the Minister for Finance and the Minister of State, Deputy Treacy, for bringing it forward. I hope the much needed foreign investment will be forthcoming. Certainly such investment is necessary if the citizens in the countries in question are to escape from the poverty, starvation and deprivation we know exists. I hope and pray this particular agency will be truly successful.

I must say I am getting quite sick of this Government, who have an unprecedented record in taking money out of the mouths of the poor of the world via their cutbacks in Official Development Aid, hiding behind the generosity of our young people and sheltering their own meanness by touting the generosity of our young people and the extraordinary work of our voluntary organisations and, unfortunately, getting a remarkably soft ride in the process. I have to say at this stage, for reasons that escape me, that I am convinced that if the Government who took the decision to cut back Official Development Aid were not of the present political complexion, my church in particular would have a lot more enthusiasm for criticising them. I have to say that, unfortunately, a lot of people in our society apparently would be very vocal if a Coalition were seen to be perhaps less suspect on some of the issues that really matter to my church, as distinct from the ones it talks about from time to time. That is not in any way to undervalue the vehemence of the contributions of Cardinal Ó Fiaich and Bishop Casey but I could, and one could, envisage much more thundering from pulpits——

Is the Senator criticising the Church?

It is not the first time or the last. There would be much more thundering from pulpits if a less sound Government were to do these awful things. They are awful things. There is a philosophical problem and a problem of language at this stage in dealing with development. The philosophical problem is the extraordinary dominance of economics and economists in our thinking. It needs to be asserted again and again that economists cannot measure human well-being. Economists cannot measure development. Economists cannot measure what is good for humanity. They can only measure one small area of human need satisfaction. They have been allowed quite an extraordinary amount of latitude to extend the tentacles of their influence into all areas in which they have absolutely no competence and in which they have no expertise. They have tried to pretend to us that somehow you can use one very limited analytical tool to attempt to understand the complex nature of human activities and of human relationships which goes under the general title of development.

There are extraordinary assumptions written into this Bill about development, many of which are fly in the face of the evidence of the past 30 years, which fly in the face of the ecological crisis facing the world, which fly in the face of the appalling structural inequalities that are not only built into many developing countries but are being reinforced by the policies of one of the agencies behind this legislation. That raises fundamental philosophical questions and if people had not been almost intimidated by the dominance of econometrics and economists in their thinking, they would realise just how much of a pup we have been sold in attempting to describe something as complex and as magnificent as humanity in terms of one limited attempt at scientific analysis.

That runs through all of this Bill. I can assure the Minister I do not intend to be as abstract as in those initial remarks but they underline a lot of what is wrong with this Bill, a lot of the questions that deserve to be answered, questions that I hope the Minister will answer. There is a large number of questions that I want to ask him, particularly about the convention, because there are extraordinary statements all the way through this Bill that need very detailed scrutiny. I am sure he will be able to give me very detailed and precise answers.

There is an idea that everything we do for Third World countries is by definition a good thing, that as long as anything we do directs money in their direction it is a good thing, that as long as we feel good about development it is a good thing. The truth is that unless we understand something about the nature of the problems of developing countries, the nature of the problems of development or indeed if we even push ourselves to think about what we really mean by development we cannot at all approach the issue of what is good for developing countries and what is bad.

The usual simple answer is to say that they have subscribed to MIGA. Most developing countries are so impoverished that they have no choice but to subscribe to agencies like this. As a great Nicaraguan priest once said, poverty is the absence of choice. Those of us who are not poor have the time both to choose and articulate choice. Those who are poor have no such luxury. As I said, the Bill makes assumptions about development that fly in the face of the experience of ordinary human beings. One of the most fundamental political problems which many people all over western Europe are beginning to talk about, is the failure to appreciate what ordinary people want, need and experience.

We have an obsession with gross national product as a measure of well-being. If it goes up we are supposed to be increasing in our well-being, if it goes down our well-being is decreasing. Let me give a simple example which demonstrates how ridiculous is that concept. Let us suppose we spend £500 million or £600 million a year on overseas holidays and all that money goes out of the country. That is not going to cause a growth in our GNP. If the Irish people were to decide instead that they were not going to go overseas on holidays, that they were going to spend the £500 million or £600 million on cigarettes that would push up our GNP. Theoretically, therefore, we would be better off according to the whole simplistic, one-dimensional model of humanity that economists have foisted on us in recent years. Of course that is rubbish, because the more we smoke the more damage we will do to our own well-being. There is no way that conventional economics can measure that sort of well-being. I will come back to this later on.

It is equally true that nowhere in the stated objectives of this agency, apart from a passing reference to the development programmes of the host countries, is there reference to the ecological damage of a particular investment. Nowhere is there a reference to the effects of development on indigenous peoples. It is based on an attempt to superimpose western concepts on investment, development and improvements on countries that have very different views, and indeed very different priorities of needs. It is built around the philosophy and ideology of the World Bank.

I should at least refer the Minister and his Department to some of the recent writings on the question of development. I have in front of me a book called The Living Economy published by Routledge & Kegan Paul which ought to be compulsory reading for every economist in this country and I would like to know what their response to it would be. I would be fairly confident that their response would be to say that it is not really what they want to talk about because it involves things other than simplistic one-dimensional measurements of humanity's well-being in terms of money. It raises fundamental questions about what we want to do with ourselves, not about what a particular model would want us to do.

The book refers to another publication called Another Development: Approaches and Strategies, published by the Dag Hammarskjöld Foundation in 1977. I do not want to delay the House but what this particular book suggests to the ordinary person who has not been swamped by economics and who realises that econiomics is a tool for human beings to analyse some situations, not a control mechanism which tells them what they must do, is that, for instance, real development ought to be geared to meeting human needs, both material and nonmaterial. The trouble about economics is that any need that is not material, no matter how fundamental, cannot be measured, priced, or quantified and, therefore, cannot be considered. The assumption, therefore, is that if somebody is 50 per cent better off living in a polluted city then he is better off than somebody who is half as well off and living in a clean environment in the country because one is a less obvious need than the other. Somebody who has a good job which pays well but who is lonely, separated from his family and under stress is presumed to be better off than somebody who is in company with his or her family and has a smaller income. The first person is presumed by economics to be better off because their income is better. That is palpable nonsense. Most human beings know that that is nonsense but we are in the grip of the high priests of orthodoxy at this stage who have a stronger influence on our thinking than even the bishops of the Roman Catholic Church had in the fifties.

It is time that the new high priests of orthodoxy were challenged to return to the one area where they have competence, which is in the measurement of material production and they should leave the rest of humanity's needs to the ordinary people who understand these things far better than they do. Written into this document is an attempt to equate development with economic growth without any other reflection on any other area of human need, be it physical or spiritual. That is the fundamental philosophical flaw in this activity.

The second philosophical flaw is the contradiction between the aspiration and the reality. Article 34 on page 15 of the Bill which relates to prohibited political activity states:

Without prejudice to the right of the Agency to take into account all the circumstances surrounding an investment, they shall not be influenced in their decisions by the political character of the member or members concerned. Considerations relevant to their decisions shall be weighted impartially in order to achieve the purposes stated in Article 2.

How is one going to be impartial while at the same time taking into account all the circumstances surrounding the investment? I do not know but MIGA is part of the World Bank group. Let me remind this House of the record of the World Bank as regards being impartial. The World Bank is seen by many people as being, effectively, an extension of the United States and its financial interests. Since 1984 the World Bank has refused to loan any money to Nicaragua on the insistence of the Reagan administration that it should not do so. Despite a positive technical evaluation of the value and worth of the World Bank's projects in Nicaragua, it has refused to lend money or make money available to Nicaragua, not because they were doing anything wrong but because the Reagan administration disapproved of Nicaragua. Therefore, it could not give money to Nicaragua. It is as simple as that. The World Bank will not aid Nicaragua, not for any reason to do with objective economics, if such exists which I doubt, but because of the fact that its American masters disapprove of the politics of Nicaragua. It is an absolute mythology to insert something like that into the terms of reference of MIGA and not advert to the truth of what the World Bank does and continues to do. That is the sort of benovolence that appears to underlie this legislation but which, in fact, is not contained in it. I will come back to that again.

The Minister suggests that the Bill is a pragmatic response. It appears to me that far from being a pragmatic response it is based on assumptions, which might or might not be justified depending on one's view of the world, that a certain form of development is better than other forms of development. It is based on the assumption, and my good friend Deputy M. Higgins spent some time on this in the other House, that foreign investment in developing countries is per se a good thing. It omits any reference because it cannot, will not or because it would make it too difficult, to the meddling of many foreign multinationals in developing countries. It would be regarded as going outside the terms of reference of MIGA to refer to the fact that it was an American multinational which destroyed and was responsible for the death of the democratically elected president of Chile in the early seventies.

We are not supposed to talk about these things because foreign investment is a good thing. It is not necessarily a good thing; it may be of benefit to a country or it may not. As I said earlier, if a multinational decides to set up in Brazil in order to speed up the destruction of the rain forests, that will increase the gross national product of Brazil but it could destabilise inside 20 years the entire world ecology. However, we cannot mention the second, we must look at the first. We are told it will generate employment.

Let us look at the activities of the multinationals at present. Where are their preferred sources of investment? They talk about the low-cost developing countries, the newly industrialised countries, such as Taiwan, Singapore, Korea, etc. These are the places where we are told they like to invest because the tax regimes are attractive, because, in the Minister's words, there is a climate favourable to investment there. We are supposed to look at this in terms of what economics can measure i.e. wages, costs, infrastructural investment, etc. The truth is a large part of their attractiveness is the fact that trade unions are not allowed in those countries and if they are allowed they are severely restricted. Those who work in the sweat shops, of multinationals in these countries as they often are, have got to work for very low wages. There is very little labour relations legislation to protect their rights, to protect them on the grounds of safety, hazardous substances and so on and, in the case of Korea, they are expected to work at least 55 hours a week before they can begin to be paid overtime.

This has got nothing to do with tangible cost benefits; it has all to do with the fact that in those countries one side of the equasion i.e. the industrial workforce is severely handicapped vis-à-vis the other. It is, therefore, much easier for them to be profitable, it is much easier to make money and, therefore, it is much easier to invest there and sell goods back to the consuming countries at an improved competitive price. None of this is referred to, even by way of implication, in this legislation because it presupposes a model of development based on only those things which have a very limited view of human well-being and development. That is what is wrong with this legislation.

Chile in recent years has been quoted as a model of impeccable development, with growth rates of 5 per cent, with exports booming and so on. Of course, we are not supposed to say that Chile is no longer a democracy because that is not a term that bothers economists. They are not really interested in those sort of things. That is not the sort of thing that bothers world banks or international monetary funds. They have not shown a particular interest in differentiating between countries with a good human rights record and those with a bad human rights record; whether they are on the left or the right is irrelevant. They have not shown much interest in what countries do with this growth in GNP, whether it is used to make the already rich élite even richer or whether it is used to develop the country. These things do not matter. This is more relevant to the International Monetary Fund, but they actually conspire de facto to reduce freedom in those countries by making impossible economic demands on governments which can only be implemented by the suppression of basic freedoms. We blissfully then introduce legislation like this and say that its aim is to provide Official Development Aid.

Let us remember what this legislation is about. Not one penny of our contributions under the provisions of this Bill will go to a Third World country. Rather its provisions constitute a guarantee to overseas investors against loss. Effectively what we are doing is subsidising multinational corporations. We are saying that if their investments fail or if a country misbehaves under the four headings in Chapter III — Currency Transfer Expropriation and Similar Measures, Breach of Contract and War and Civil Disturbance — the investor will be compensated. We will compensate the investor, not the country. Therefore, the money will go to the overseas investor who will be one of the countries from category one of the list of countries in the Schedule by and large, if not always. If you like, that means that we are protecting each other from possible upheavals in Third World countries. We are not really doing much.

My good friend, Deputy M. Higgins, in the other House, adverted to this. We are effectively telling multinationals that they are safe to invest in even the most repressive of countries — even those where there are no rights — because, if it all goes wrong, and these nasty people decide to throw out their benevolent rulers, we will look after their investments. It is a regrettable fact that a lot of money has been wasted in development co-operation because we refuse to look at real models of human development. The sort of economics we are fed about investment, return on investment and so on sound lovely except for the fact that, were they to be implemented in reality, there would be nobody in agriculture in this country. It would then be much more economical and be a more efficient use of capital for a farmer to sell his farm, invest the proceeds and live off that investment. There is no economic justification for most of agriculture in this country. The money that is invested in the land could provide a much greater rate of return were it invested elsewhere. However, people do not do that because people are not economic animals alone; they are much more complex than that.

That is the underlying flaw in all of this World Bank model of development. apart from the fact that it is politically biased, it is also philosophically bankrupt because it does not appreciate either the needs or capacity of ordinary people to contribute to their development. Neither is it able to distinguish between acceptable and unacceptable forms of economic growth, unacceptable forms being those which do harm to a society, to the environment. There are many such forms being tolerated in developing countries. The more extreme are represented by the apparent continuing determination of developed countries to offload their toxic waste to impoverished Third World countries who will be paid for the privilege of storing our deadly waste. We will not have it but they are so desperately short of money they will accept it.

We do not know the extent to which this is going on. From the point of view of abstract economics, that is a good thing.

There is nothing in abstract economics to distinguish that from other forms of activity. As has been said quite rightly on a few occasions, there is nothing in economics to suggest that the heroin trade in the United States should not be aggregated as part of its gross national product. It is a convention that excludes it; the fact that it is illegal does not render it in any way not part of the development of the United States economy. We cannot base concepts of human well-being, which is what development is about, on simple straight line, one-dimensional economics.

The other side of this equation of course is represented by the extraordinary cutbacks in Official Development Aid. I presume the Minister is aware of the scale of these cutbacks. I need not refer to them again. There is the contradictory philosophy underlying our cutbacks and here I will quote the present Taoiseach speaking to the Kennedy School of Government, Harvard University on 22 April 1988:

Ireland is one of the few nations of the European Community which has suffered colonisation and because of our history in that regard we are in a privileged position in regard to most of the small and emerging nations of the modern world. Our work in the mission fields and in health and welfare projects makes us keenly aware of the plight of the smaller Third World nations with whom we have the privilege of special relationships. We stand, respected, in the middle ground between the affluent North and the underdeveloped South, ideally suited to play a valuable bridging role.

I am not allowed to use the word which I was going to use; I will think of another one in a moment. There is something distinctly distasteful about a speech like that being made by the Leader of our Government at a time when our Official Development Aid is being cut back.

I cannot see the comparison.

I doubt if a Minister in Deputy Haughey's Government would be allowed to say anything other than what the Minister has just said and remain a member of the Government.

I say what I think.

I must say that is a distinct improvement. The basic facts cannot be avoided, no matter what the Minister may like to blissfully pretend to himself. If the Government keep on, as they have done, we are depriving the poor of the limited amount of aid we give them. Remember we are in the process of disengaging effectively from Sudan where the need is greatest; we are likely to run down entirely our projects in Tanzania because they cannot be sustained any longer. I have had the pleasure and privilege of seeing our work in Tanzania. I know the pain and shock that will be caused to the people in the areas where Irish development aid has been so useful if we decide to cut it out completely.

The decision to cutback on Official Development Aid is difficult to justify even in the terms under which economists and economics operate. As Trócaire point out in their simple booklet entitled The Costs of Cutting Third World Aid, we are not necessarily losing anything from Official Development Aid; if anything we are beneficiaries because a large part of our bilateral aid is either paid for Irish goods and services or paid to Irish people. On a wider basis the success of Irish companies in trading with Third World countries, particularly through DEVCO, could be generating in the order of £70 million to £90 million a year which is well in excess of our Official Development Aid. A lot of that business by Irish companies in Third World countries is able to be there because we are seen to have a good record on Official Development Aid.

If we go from one country seen to be progressive to one which we will shortly be seen as one of the meanest-minded of the 27 or 30 relatively rich countries, then that sort of goodwill will evaporate. Any sort of mythology that we are somehow a middle ground between the developed and developing, somehow the honest broker, will be eliminated as we clearly begin to subscribe to the dominant ideology of the rich west, which is that private investment is the route forward, that the idea of aid as part of development is played down, as we withdraw into a large international institution like the World Bank and tie up increasing amounts of our resources in those areas.

We have lost a lot of credibility. We will lose more if the present Government continue with their philosophy, their deliberate playing down of Official Development Aid crystalised in their apparent refusal to consider the re-establishment of a Joint Oireachtas Committee on Development Co-operation. Perhaps because they forgot about it or because they deliberately decided not to have one, we have not got one now. Nothing more than that shows that the Government would like us all to forget about Official Development Aid; they would like us to forget about development co-operation; would like to avoid a forum where we could be advised systematically about what is happening in the area of Official Development Aid. So we do not have a committee. We have a Minister who is a very nice man but I do not think he is in a position to talk much about development aid since basically all we are spending now is money that we are stuck with spending and on which we cannot renege.

There is a shameful lack of thinking on issues such as those covered by the provisions of this Bill. There is a shameful lack of thinking in the philosophy of this Government about Official Development Aid. There is a shameful lack of thinking in the fact that apparently an increasing part of our resources, under what we call Official Development Aid is controlled by the Department of Finance. With the philosophy and ideology that now dominates that Department it appears that we are not going to see much in the area of enlightened or imaginative development emanating from that source given their lack of enlightenment and imagination in many other areas. The letter of T. J. Barrington to The Irish Times about a fortnight ago speaks more eloquently than I could about the lack of imagination in that Department.

May I say, in conclusion, that the stench of politics, of a particularly right-wing kind of politics, of a particularly inhuman kind of politics, runs through the assumptions contained in this Bill. Nothing crystallises the fact that this is a highly political issue with far more involved than simply benevolent attempts to assist Third World countries than a careful perusal of the list of countries in category two, those classified as developing. The one that I notice that is missing is the richest and most successful Third World country which is Cuba. Presumably that is either because the Cubans had the good sense to stay out or perhaps because the Americans would not let them in. I do not know which; the Minister might tell us. Reading through the list one finds Israel. I am fascinated by the fact that Israel is seen as a developing country, I am not sure what it is developing. Just below Israel are listed the Ivory Coast, Jamaica and Jordan. Then there is listed this intriging one — Kampuchea Democratic.

I wonder does the Minister know what Kampuchea Democratic represents? Democratic Kampuchea is not the Government of Kampuchea. It is not even based in Kampuchea. Democratic Kampuchea is the Khmer Rouge, the second greatest genocidists of this century who managed to massacre between one and two million of their own people and were then finally ejected out of their country by the Vietnamise who are in Kampuchea still only because the Kampucheans are so terrified of so-called Democratic Kampuchea. The country of Kampuchea is actually the People's Republic of Kampuchea. Democratic Kampuchea is an exiled Government, funded by the United States and China, which operates from the borders between Thailand and Kampuchea. It is not even a Government. It does not even have a foothold in the country and it is there allowed to represent among the poorest, the most deprived and greatest victims of 20th century injustice. Then I am supposed to believe that this is a benevolent document about international development, about help for poor countries.

This is a highly political document in which clear political choices and lines are drawn. As Senator Bulbulia already said, we have pragmatism extended to the nth degree — with South Africa seen as fit people to give money to help other countries to develop when they spend probably one-quarter of their GNP in destabilising every country within a 500 mile or 1,000 mile radius of their country. Then, on the back of it, we have those who have the blood of millions on their hands allowed to purport to represent one of the most oppressed countries in the world.

I am not defending in any way anything about the present Government of Kampuchea. I am simply saying that there is a Government in Kampuchea, that the people who call themselves Democratic Kampuchea are the greatest terrorists the world has known, who have massacred a million or two million of their own people not by accident, not by mistake but quite deliberately in campaigns of extermination and mass murder; but because international politics dictates that they are seen to be the representatives of Kampuchea, in here, in what is supposed to be an innocuous benevolent document about Official Development Aid, we find them allowed to represent Kampuchea. I am intrigued as to what they are doing. Is there going to be foreign investment in the refugee camps or what are they doing there?

Very poor return on that investment.

We will come to this in more detail on Committee Stage. I should love the Minister to explain to me the logic under which Democratic Kampuchea, which is a Government in exile, feared by its own people, supported by the United States and China with no territory and no foothold in Kampuchea, is allowed to become a participant in what is supposed to be an agreement about Official Development Aid. It has got nothing to do with development but everything to do with politics. Incidentally, this country has a good record on the issue of Democratic Kampuchea and the realities of life. At least we do not vote to keep them in the United Nations where they occupy the seat of Kampuchea. At least we abstain which is something progressive but to allow that to happen, to allow them to be inserted there, is a statement about values, about ideology, about a lot of things.

It underlines how pragmatic is this Bill in one way. It is pragmatic about the truth because, to insert Democratic Kampuchea in there, is to fly in the face of the truth. It is pragmatic about human rights because it does not care about South Africa and does not care about Democratic Kampuchea. Of course all of this would be fine if the Minister could say: these are the realities of life but the realities of life have not prevented the World Bank from discriminating against Nicaragua because the United States does not like it. Therefore, what we actually have here is another instrument to maintain a particular view of the world in the face of the realities obtaining. It is an outrageous attempt to pretend that this is somehow a benevolent Bill meant to benevolently help development.

It is an inadequate Bill. It is incomplete in its thinking. It contains a considerable number of clauses that I hope the Minister will be able to explain to me. I cannot see their purpose or understand their ramifications at all. The bottom line is that it is based on an inadequate philosophy, an inadequate set of values. Above all, it is based on a view of development which flies in the face of most of the experience of the past 40 years.

I welcome this Bill——

Debate adjourned.
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