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Seanad Éireann debate -
Wednesday, 10 May 1989

Vol. 122 No. 15

Re-opening of Seanad Chamber: Statements.

I will commence today's formal business with statements to be made on the resumption of sittings in the Seanad Chamber. Senators will recall from the Order of the House last week that each group are entitled to have one speaker, who has two minutes, and the Leas-Chathaoirleach will then conclude the statements.

I have the honour today, as Cathaoirleach, to preside over this special and unique occasion in the history of our Parliament on the first sitting to take place in the refurbished Seanad Chamber. In honour of this occasion it gives me great pleasure to welcome to this sitting my colleagues, former distinguished Cathaoirligh, former Leaders of this House and distinguished friends. We have waited a long time for this day. It is over two and a half years since the Seanad sat in this Chamber. Even in the year before that, in 1985, we had to put up with scaffolding and temporary ceilings while the extent of the work to be carried out was investigated. In praising the Members for their patience in carrying on the sittings in the cramped temporary accommodation, I want to pay a special tribute to my colleagues on the Committee on Procedure and Privileges, who were of enormous support to me in communicating with the Office of Public Works officials and generally overseeing the whole project with them.

I would like now to turn to the restoration work itself. This entire project has required the exercise of skills of the highest order by everybody involved — management, architects, engineers, surveyors and craftspersons. Surely the highlight of this work is the ceiling. The restoration of the magnificent 18th century decorative ceiling, designed by James Watt, was carried out by a team from the Office of Public Works.

This work on the ceiling was carried out by a specialised team of craftsmen and we are indeed fortunate to have in the Office of Public Works the services of such a skilled person in this highly specialised field as Mr. Val Ryan, who is acknowledged as one of the country's leading experts. A team of plasterers, with Mr. Ryan, are now available to maintain the many fine ceilings and, indeed, other works in the public domain. Thus these specialised skills will be carried on to the next generation of craftspersons and will benefit the State for generations to come.

The number of people involved in the restoration work, for which we are all so grateful, are too many to mention individually. However, I hope I will not offend anyone if I pay a special tribute to some. Everybody in this Chamber is well aware that I am on dangerous ground now, because if you single out people you leave out others.

First of all, I would like to pay tribute to the Chairman of the Office of Public Works, John Mahoney, the architect, Jeffrey Johnston, Tom Sherlock, the project co-ordinator, and his colleague, Michael Fennelly and, last but by no means least, the Minister of State, Deputy Noel Treacy, who put up with all our complaints, when we were in the temporary Chamber, about lighting, ventilation and everything else. More importantly, he had the political will to push through the job to its successful completion.

The restoration project was carried out while both Houses of the Oireachtas remained in session in the building. As I have said already, the Seanad sat in the ante-room which was especially converted right next door to the work in progress. Notwithstanding this, and the fact that the work was at times both noisy and dusty, there were no disruptions of the contract programme. This reflects great credit on the Members and the staff of both Houses of the Oireachtas, but especially of the Seanad, who patiently tolerated the inconvenience, as did the Dáil Members who had to do without all the facilities of the main Library while the job was in progress. I know Minister Noel Treacy and the Office of Public Works wish me to express their appreciation of the co-operation of the Members and staff of the Houses during the course of the work. Credit is also due to the contractor, who was very flexible in scheduling the most disruptive work during the least incovenient times.

Every effort was made by all parties concerned to keep lines of communication open about progress on the work front. This is why I feel there was a high degree of understanding and patience from Senators as to the length of time involved and disturbance caused by the work. I personally kept in close touch with the Office of Public Works and the officials and, in turn, reported back formally to this House at least seven times. On each occasion a committee meeting was held prior to making that report. So I know Senators will appreciate the effort made by their representatives on the Committee on Procedure and Privileges.

The role of the Seanad has, over the years, been questioned, criticised, misunderstood and often ignored. I hope that as our sitting here today is being televised it will give the people in their homes their first opportunity to judge us and to give them a greater understanding of how their Parliament works.

The work of the Seanad does not stop here, but as with all living institutions is ongoing. It is appropriate today, when we are to take the Bill dealing with the Blasket Islands, to be introduced by the Taoiseach, that I should thank him and the Government for the amount of legislation they have given to the Seanad.

I intend, with my colleagues on the Committee on Procedure and Privileges, to ensure that the Irish translation service will be put in place for the next autumn session. A translation booth will be required to be installed. The Seanad has waited too long for that service. Indeed, I had hoped that I would have had it in place today, but that was not possible.

I would like to end on a personal note. It gives me great joy to be back in this Chamber, where I started my parliamentary career in 1977. My great hope would be that I would remain here for many years to come, without interruption.

There is very little left for me to say. The Cathaoirleach has covered very adequately the ground that it was necessary to cover.

It is indeed a great pleasure for us to be back in this Chamber once again and to see the fantastic refurbishment job that has been done under the auspices of the Office of Public Works. For many years we have seen in other places the capacity of the Office of Public Works to rise to the occasion when necessary. We have seen in many places around the country the excellence of the work they have done. We have seen in many places that they have been able to hold together crafts that were dying. We have often heard people giving out about them being slow. But when we saw the end results we always realised that you cannot speed up the progress necessary for excellence. The fact that the workers in the Office of Public Works were able to restore this magnificent ceiling is a tribute to them which should not be forgotten by the nation. It will stand for many years as a symbol of the excellence of Irish craftsmanship. It is a symbol of Irish craft-manship which, we should not forget, exists.

It is a proud and a good day for us to come back here. I am very pleased to be back in this Chamber. It seems strange that I am looking at the Opposition Members face to face for the first time. For the last two and a half years I sat in front and had to turn around to find out what was going on behind my back. I am not too sure whether things will change because there are people behind me who, perhaps, I should be watching from the back of my head. Nevertheless, it makes good parliamentary sense to be able to address your remarks to the Opposition in a proper manner.

Over the past two and a half years we have had many difficulties associated with the other Chamber. The difficulties that we had were of a minor nature in a sense, but I must pay tribute to the staff of the House for the excellent manner in which they conducted themselves. It has to be said that over the past two and a half years they worked in conditions that would not be allowed by the Department of Labour if they were working outside the House. I must personally — and I am sure the House will agree with me — pay a special tribute to them. The Cathaoirleach mentioned the Minister of State, Deputy Noel Treacy, and the officials of the Office of Public Works. I do not have to reiterate what the Cathoirleach has said about them.

The business of the Seanad is not really about the Chamber. It is about legislation and it is about the democratic system in which we work. There have been criticisms in the past of the working of the Seanad. Many people have suggested that the Seanad should be abolished. The Seanad has stood the test of democracy. Many things have happened in this Chamber and in the ante-room, which was our Chamber for the past two and a half years, which have been a credit to the Seanad. Many Bills have been changed and many Bills have been initiated. I must pay tribute to the former Members of the Seanad who are here and I must pay a special tribute to former officials of the Seanad who are here. It would be invidious for me to mention names, but we appreciate in the present day the work that they did in the past.

I thank all of those who were associated with the work on this Chamber. I sincerely hope that the work of the Seanad will continue and will enhance the democratic process, which is of vital importance to the continuing political scene in this country.

May I, first of all, join with the Cathaoirleach in saying "welcome back" to the former distinguished Members of this House who are here today for the re-opening of their Chamber. Obviously, it is a matter of great satisfaction to all of us to be back in this restored Chamber two and a half years later. I would like to congratulate the Office of Public Works on a superb job, marvellously done, within time and within budget. I hope that as many of the public as possible will be able to come and see this great national building over the coming years. It is a building that should be shared with all the Irish people.

The occasion today focuses attention on this House and it is important that we use the occasion to take a hard look at the role of the Seanad within the Irish policital process and to see how we can be more effective in serving that process and in serving the people. There are many reasons why there should be a second Chamber. As I have said before, there is only one fundamental reason for a House such as this and that is that it does its job well; that it does its job well in debating and examining legislation, in providing a voice for those who might not otherwise be heard; that it does its work in committee, in innovation and in broading the national debate.

I believe that over the years these responsibilities have been well discharged. But I believe, too, that we must be more ambitious and we must push the potential of this House to its fullest possible development. For that reason we in this House must not be afraid of change, whether it be in our electoral system, work practices, the scope and the range of our work. I hope that this re-opening today can be seen by all of us as an affirmation of our willingness to face up to whatever changes are necessary and to expand our thinking and our horizons to ensure that this House is effective, responsive and innovative, that we will be judged worthy occupants of this magnificent Chamber and that we will be seen to have discharged our full political and constitutional responsibilities.

The first thing that strikes me is that it is far too nice a place to get thrown out of.

Senator O'Toole, remember that.

I will, indeed. The other point that I will make is that it is also a spur towards re-election at a time when there is a lot of discussion about elections. It is certainly a place one would like to come back home to again. I will be working on that.

In looking around here we see a job of work that was designed, monitored, managed, directed and co-ordinated by the staff of the public service in the Office of Public Works. The people should understand that the whole job was carried out by the Office of Public Works. They were the people who employed the private contractors they wanted, but at the end of the day the intricate ceiling work, moulding, restoration, decoration and so on was carried out by the employees of the OPW, who in effect were resubcontracted back to the main contractor.

It is also fair to say that what we see is the living proof of the effectiveness and efficiency of the Office of Public Works. The OPW is a department which has often been the butt of much detraction. They can certainly take a bow here today. This is also a testament to the work rate of that department, that they are able to finish this very difficult job almost half a year ahead of schedule. The impossibility of determining where the old work finishes and the new work begins is a fair reflection of the common bond of skill across generations and centuries, from the craft guilds of centuries ago to the modern trade unions. It is this common bond which enhances and in a sense, adds personality to the room.

More importantly, as has been said by both the Leader of the House and the Leader of the Opposition, the House is about the business of the House. I hope that the clever, intricate, bright and quality in-depth work here can be reflected in the debates that will take place here and in the work of the House from now on. The fact that we undertook the refurbishment, redecoration and renovation of this building should now also give us the courage necessary to look at the whole structure of the Seanad, from election to the methods of dealing with legislation, the methods of allocation of time, the contribution of ideas and thought, in order that we would also be prepared to reform and change in order to reflect changes in society. We should look forward to making these changes. In the meantime, the Independent group would like to offer our congratulations to all who were involved in producing this magnificent proof of their effectiveness and efficiency.

I would join with you and particularly with my colleagues Senator Lanigan, Senator Manning and Senator O'Toole, in congratulating everybody associated with the work carried out to this magnificent Chamber, work that was carried out under the supervision of the Office of Public Works. As my colleague, Senator O'Toole stated, this work was done by the Public Service who are often criticised and, indeed, during the period of this reconstruction work they were criticised in this Chamber. I have it on record in this House that I had always found it quite possible to defend what they were doing, to defend the meticulous way that they went about what is, in fact, a work of art, a masterpiece. Under your guiding hand, a Chathaoirleach, we have sat on committees, we have visited this House on a very frequent basis, and gone very high and close to the scaffolding. We looked at what was being done and wondered if it was ever going to be possible to restore it to the grandeur and the magnificence this Chamber always exhibited from the first day in which it was used as a House of the Oireachtas.

We had complaints from Members; we had frustrations; we had noise and we had a dust factor to contend with, but in all of those periods, we looked to the day when we would be returning to the House. We had many jokes about whether we would return to the House or not. Indeed, the Leader and the Cathaoirleach have always defended the role of this House in legislation. Those of us who have been directly involved in helping — both on the Government side and in Opposition — to improve legislation or, indeed, to initiate it, have always been very proud of the role that the Seanad has played as a House of the Oireachtas. Nobody in public life should be allowed to denigrate the actual importance of this House in the area of legislation because we have a proud role, a proud function and we have a proud record of how we have approached legislation that was either initiated here or otherwise.

In addition to that, Private Members and Opposition parties have had an opportunity here, away from the spotlight of the political climate in another place, to debate at length what is good as legislation and debate with Ministers from all sides the kind of amendments we require to see being written into the Statute Book, matters that had not been dealt with in another place, whether due to restriction of time or for some other reason.

At the moment, as you know, a review is being undertaken by the Standing Orders Committee of which I am a member. I hope that with that review and change of Standing Orders we can meet the sentiments that have been expressed by Senator O'Toole, that in addition to having a bright and cheerful Chamber to work in, we would also approach our role here as Oireachtas Members in a different light and with a different outlook.

Finally, a Chathaoirligh, you made a joke or some remark at the end of your own comments in which you said that you hoped that you would be allowed to remain here, that nobody would disturb you. Could I respectfully suggest to you that the Taoiseach you have complimented on doing all this work in this House, with his Minister of State, Deputy Treacy, is the only man who can disturb you in this House?

I concur with the extensive and well deserved tributes paid by my colleagues to the outstanding restoration work carried out by the Office of Public Works to our Seanad Chamber. As one of the longer serving Senators I can honestly say, a Chathaoirligh, that I have never seen the Chamber look so well. In fact the place looks so good that I am having second thoughts, for the first time, about leaving it for the European Parliament next month.

This Chamber has a long and noble history as the seat of Parliament, the Second or Upper House. The Free State Seanad commenced its sittings here on 11 December 1922 and the Seanad, under the present Constitution, on 27 April 1938. The Seanad has sat here ever since up to October of 1986 when the restoration work commenced and the sittings were held in the adjoining ante-room. I am sure that today's proceedings will be in keeping with those historic first sittings and other days of special character, such as first sittings following general elections. Much of the press coverage of the past few days of the restoration work executed here has been rewarding for and deserved by the Office of Public Works. Two points stand out for me. One is that the work was completed no less than five months early and, secondly, that it was well within budget. Those factors, along with work of the highest standard, the quality of which is obvious to all, puts the almost traditional criticism of the Office of Public Works to rest once and for all. We all owe a debt of gratitude to each and every one of those who were involved in this fairly substantial project.

I believe it should also be put on record that we in the Seanad and the Committee on Procedures and Privileges were very conscious of the work carried out here. We did not look for any improvements or changes regarding the furnishing and fittings and we are happy to have the Chamber back as we left it from that point of view, with the essential repairs carried out. The improved sound system would have been installed one way or another. I was delighted to see that the distinguished conservation group, An Taisce, who all along were so concerned with the preservation of this magnificent ceiling, have praised the restoration and the quality of the work here. There is a pristine freshness about the surroundings that I hope will augur well for the serious work undertaken in the Seanad.

I hope that our sitting today — the theme, I appreciate, is business as usual — will, through television, give our people for the first time a valuable insight into how their Parliament works. Too often Parliament is ridiculed, perhaps a few times justifiably, but more often than not out of ignorance and the televising of the proceedings today will, I hope, go some way towards giving people a better understanding of what we do here as parliamentarians. In that sense, all of us are on trial here, as are, of course, the programme makers of RTE as well. I hope that the special occasion afforded by our returning to this beautifully restored Chamber will be itself a fitting tribute to all involved in the restoration work. I know that my colleagues will rise to the occasion in accordance with tradition.

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