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Seanad Éireann debate -
Wednesday, 4 Mar 1992

Vol. 131 No. 12

Adjournment Matter. - Dialysis Service at Tralee Hospital.

I ask the Minister for Health to provide extra funding to the Southern Health Board for the staffing of a dialysis unit in Tralee General Hospital. I thank the Cathaoirleach and the Minister for taking this very deserving motion on the Adjournment tonight. I propose to share my time with Senator Foley.

The counties concerned, Kerry and Cork, are the most densely populated in the country. I often come to Dublin via Cork and when I reach the Cork border on my way I am only half way there. That gives some idea of the distance people in Kerry have to travel for treatment in the dialysis unit in Cork.

The Kerry branch of the Irish Kidney Association was set up in Killarney in Autumn 1985. Subcommittees were set up in Tralee, Dingle and Castleisland. Subsequent fund raising quickly raised £90,000 for the purpose of providing a dialysis unit in Tralee General Hospital. This money is lodged in banks in Killarney and Dingle and could be used to provide the capital cost of a dialysis unit, but it is the Irish Kidney Association's policy not to contribute towards the running costs of a dialysis unit. At the February 1992 meeting of the Southern Health Board it was estimated that the total cost for such a service would be £20,000 per annum per patient. We have eight patients which would represent a total cost of £160,000. In 1991, the Southern Health Board contributed £25,407 towards the cost of transporting seven patients to and from Cork. The eighth patient has lately rejected a transplant kidney and is back on dialysis again. The Southern Health Board estimate the cost of running a dialysis unit at £60,000 for staff — one ward sister and four staff nurses. A registrar's half salary is £12,000, non-nursing salary is £10,000 and visiting consultants cost £15,000. That is a total of £97,000. Training costs are approximately £2,000 for staff.

In 1992, we have eight chemo dialysis patients who travel three days a week to Cork from all parts of the county for dialysis. In addiiton, five patients who are on home dialysis must also travel to Cork for regular examination. Patient A leaves Castleisland at 11.30 a.m. three days per week and returns at 7 p.m. He cannot work. Patient B leaves Asdee at 5 a.m., travels to Tralee which is 27 miles away and from there to Cork, which is another 70 miles, three days a week and is home at 3 p.m. This patient had a transplant in November 1991 which she quickly rejected and she is on dialysis now for a total of six years.

Patient C has diabetes, which causes renal failure and blindness. He had a transplant but rejected it in December 1991 and is back again on dialysis. He travels from Tralee three days a week to Cork. The other patients are from Kilflynn, Listowel, Dingle and two are from Killarney. The Dingle patient is able to continue working due to rearranging his schedule to incorporate an early morning dialysis session in Cork Regional Hospital. This necessitates leaving home at 5.45 a.m. three mornings a week. That patient is a neighbour of mine in Dingle and he is trying to carry on his business as best he can. He is a young man of about 40 years of age with a family and a large business. About six months ago he was operated on successfully in Beaumont and both his kidneys were removed. He is not sure what length of time he will have to wait for a kidney transplant. To go to Cork three times a week so early in the morning and arrive back home late in the evening is a great hardship for an able bodied person let alone a person who has to go on the dialysis unit for four to five hours in Cork.

The Kerry branch of the Irish Kidney Association will undertake to provide at Tralee General Hospital dialysis machines, a bicarbonate monitor, to change the wider filtration system and to replace existing equipment as necessary. The cost of a dialysis machine is £14,000 and the monitor £4,500. The Irish Kidney Association, Kerry branch, have £90,000 in a bank account. A ceiling of £90,000 was put on the collection by the Irish Kidney Association in Dublin until they received a guarantee from the Southern Health Board that such a unit would be put into the Tralee General Hospital. The people who responded so generously to the original appeal for funds in 1985 would again donate further funds for replacement equipment for a dialysis unit in Tralee.

The consultant staffing of the unit can be organised as is done, for example, in Letterkenny or in Waterford and there is no need for the employment of a fulltime specialist.

I appeal to the Minister to do everything in his power to alleviate the hardship of these people who must travel to Cork three days a week. I hope his response to the motion will be a favourable one or an indication that something will happen shortly in Tralee.

If my colleague, Senator Dan Kiely, comes in I will give him some of my time.

At the outset I wish to thank my colleague, Senator Fitzgerald for sharing his time with me and giving me the opportunity to support this very important motion on behalf of the people of Kerry who are undergoing great strain and hardship by being obliged to travel to Cork Regional Hospital for dialysis treatment. These people have to travel three times per week, in many cases at great inconvenience to themselves. The patients coming from the Dingle area have to leave home at 5.30 a.m. Having arrived at the hospital, they spend approximately five hours on the machine before returning home. That practice is repeated three times each week.

The Kerry branch of the Irish Kidney Association was set up in the autumn of 1985 in Killarney. Subcommittees were set up throughout the county and I am privileged to say that I was a member of the committee set up in Tralee.

Much fund raising was organised and in a very short time £90,000 was raised for the purpose of providing a dialysis unit in Tralee General Hospital. This money is still available and would be provided towards the capital cost of the dialysis unit. This effort was fully supported by the Irish Kidney Association. It is the policy of that association not to contribute towards the cost of running a dialysis unit and they should not be expected to do so. The people of Kerry have responded in a very positive way to the original appeal of the Kerry branch of the Irish Kidney Association. For this reason it has been most disappointing since 1985, that the Southern Health Board have not come forward by installing this unit in the Tralee General Hospital.

The only expense to the Department of Health and the Southern Health Board would be in relation to staff. I appeal to the Department and the Minister to make the essential funding available. This would be a tremendous boost to these patients who have suffered much hardship, and continue to do so over the years.

There is a total of 13 people involved. It was anticipated that when the new Tralee General Hospital opened almost seven years ago the provision of dialysis treatment facilities at the hospital would be a major priority. Hence the disappointment that nothing yet has happened.

There is no condition so requiring of instant specialised treatment as the conditions of those who need treatment under renal dialysis technology. The treatment must be carried out in most cases in a hospital and it has to be ongoing for a good number of hours. The most difficult time for the patients is when they have to travel to Cork during the winter months, especially when there is frost and snow on the mountain roads. This adds to the tremendous mental stress and strain on both patients and their families, especially if there is a danger they will not reach the treatment centre in time.

The Southern Health Board estimates the cost of running a dialysis unit, as follows: Staff — one ward sister and four staff nurses — approximately £60,000; Registrar (half salary), £12,000; Non nursing salary, £10,000; Visiting Consultant, £15,000. Making a total of £97,000 per year. This works out at approximately £7,500 per patient, which is a very small outlay.

If such a unit were installed in the Tralee General Hospital it would prove cost effective over a period of time. If one were to compare the cost involved in these patients travelling to Cork at the moment, and should the facilities be available in Tralee, I believe there would be a saving to both the Southern Health Board and the Department of Health.

The Minister recently met representatives of the Irish Kidney Association and I understand it was a very fruitful and informative meeting. I also understand the services for Kerry patients were discussed at this meeting. A proposal for the provision of kidney dialysis services at the Tralee General Hospital was submitted by the Southern Health Board to the Department of Health in 1986, but it was then indicated that due to financial constraints they were not in a position to proceed with the proposed plans.

I now understand that the Southern Health Board have agreed to make the provision of a dialysis unit at Tralee General Hospital a priority and I congratulate them. I appeal to the Minister, as I know he is a man of deep compassion for the weaker sections of the community, especially the sick, to make the essential finance available for the establishment of dialysis services at Tralee General Hospital.

I welcome the Minister of State to the House and hope he will have good news for the dialysis patients.

I welcome the Minister to the House. I support my two colleagues, Senators Foley and Fitzgerald, in the case being made for a dialysis unit for the Tralee General Hospital. This is an ongoing saga for the patients of County Kerry. The biggest trauma these people experience is getting up at five or six o'clock in the morning, travelling 120 miles to Cork and back and having that treatment in between. They do this three times a week. It is a full time job for these people and they want to try to live some kind of life as well. If the dialysis unit were set up in Tralee General Hospital, they feel they could contribute to some kind of family life. That is the reason they are looking for this unit to be placed in Tralee.

There is a strong case to be made for these people. We have a lovely hospital, one of which we can be proud. It cost about £28 million of taxpayer's money and the people of Kerry are very thankful for that. The facilities there are fantastic. When the hospital was being erected we were promised that the dialysis unit would be in place for the kidney patients of County Kerry.

The organisations in Kerry raised something in the region of £50,000 for a dialysis unit. In Limerick a doctor gave his professional services on a voluntary basis to patients in County Limerick. We thought something similar might be made available to the people of Kerry. Senator Foley stated it would cost £97,000 to the State to provide the staff for a dialysis unit. That is a small amount of money when one considers the number of lives that could be saved. If a person were to die in the morning, God forbid, while travelling from Kerry to Cork for treatment, £97,000 would seem a very small price to pay. I appeal to the Minister and to the Southern Health Board to make the necessary resources available to ensure that this facility is installed in a hospital we are very proud of, a hospital we want to expand and have further treatment in. I welcome the motion.

This is my first visit to this House and I congratulate the Chair very warmly on the fact that he has been promoted to that most important position. I say that against the background that the Chair and I come from the same beloved county of Westmeath. Above all else, we are very good a producing successful politicians.

We are outnumbered by Kerrymen tonight.

I thank Senator Tom Fitzgerald for raising the matter and also compliment his colleagues, Senators Foley and Kiely, for their contributions. I am acutely aware of the needs of dialysis patients in Kerry and in other parts of the country also.

I am especially conscious of the difficulties faced by patients who have to travel some distance for treatment and this has already been referred to by the contributors. With regard to dialysis service generally, Senators will be interested to learn that the previous Minister met with the Irish Kidney Association in January. I understand at that meeting many aspects of the kidney service nationally were discussed, including services for Kerry patients, and that it was a most fruitful and informative meeting.

The Senators will be aware, of course, that the provision of services at Tralee General Hospital is primarily a matter for the Southern Health Board, which must have regard to its competing service priorities and the resources at its disposal. A proposal for the provision of a kidney dialysis service at Tralee General Hospital was submitted, as already mentioned, by the board to my Department in 1986 but was not proceeded with then because of financial constraints. No further proposals have been received in my Department in recent years.

However, I understand that at a recent meeting of the health board a decision was made to include the provision of a dialysis unit at Tralee General Hospital in the board's priorities for development at the hospital. I understand also that health board management are now exploring the possibility of establishing a dialysis service at the hospital. The meeting took place early in February this year and I understood that the Southern Health Board have decided that the establishment of a kidney dialysis service at Tralee should be included in their priorities for development at the hospital and that discussions are taking place with the health board, management and the professionals in the hospital in regard to the possibility of establishing at least a limited dialysis service. Discussions are also taking place with hospital consultants. I am told that if these discussions are successful management hope to be in a position to put proposals before the hospital committee of the board this month.

I am aware that the Kerry branch of the Irish Kidney Association have raised funds for the purpose of equipment for a dialysis unit at Tralee and the commitment of this group to dialysis patients and the generosity displayed by the people of Kerry are very impressive. As I indicated earlier, any proposals for the establishment of a dialysis service at Tralee will have to be looked at by the Southern Health Board in the context of its overall service priorities, its priorities for Tralee and the resources available to meet these priorities. I hope that the discussions underway within the setting of the hospital and in conjunction with the Southern Health Board officials will prove successful.

I compliment the Senators again for the manner in which they put forward the case for a dialysis service at the Tralee General Hospital.

I thank the Minister of State. The news he has given us will give us hope. Many people depend on this.

I also thank the Minister. This statement is the first ray of hope these patients have had since 1986.

Like my colleagues, I think the Minister's reply gives a genuine ray of hope. I thank him.

The Seanad adjourned at 10.20 p.m. until 10.30 a.m. on Thursday, 5 March 1992.

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