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Seanad Éireann debate -
Friday, 19 Dec 1997

Vol. 153 No. 7

Scientific and Technological Education (Investment) Fund Bill, 1997 [Seanad Bill amended by Dáil]: Report and Final Stages.

Acting Chairman

This is a Seanad Bill which has been amended by the Dáil. In accordance with Standing Order 85, it is deemed to have passed its First, Second and Third Stages in the Seanad and is placed on the Order Paper for Report Stage. On the question "That the Bill be received for final consideration", the Minister may explain the purport of the amendments made by the Dáil and this is looked upon as the report of the Dáil amendment to the Seanad. The only matter, therefore, that may be discussed is the amendment made by the Dáil.

For the convenience of Senators I have arranged for the printing and circulation to them of these amendments.

Question proposed: "That the Bill be received for final consideration."

We had a good discussion in the Seanad last Friday. During the debate on this Bill in Dáil Éireann, Deputies were very supportive of its objectives but they raised a number of concerns to them. I was happy to amend the Bill to address some of those concerns and I would now like to outline for this House the areas where amendments were made and the reasons for those amendments.

Section 2(3) deals with the auditing of the accounts of the fund by the Comptroller and Auditor General. In this House, Senators were concerned to ensure that the accounts would be laid before the Houses of the Oireachtas within a strict time limit. In the Dáil, Deputies were concerned to ensure that, in addition, the accounts were submitted to the Comptroller and Auditor General within a time limit. I accepted this approach and the subsection now provides that the Minister must submit the accounts to the Comptroller and Auditor General within three months after the end of the financial year.

Section 4(5) provides that the moneys may be provided from the fund for the purpose of enabling institutions to make use of the outcome of research for commercial purpose where such activity is carried out in accordance with guidelines drawn up by the Minister for Education and Science. Deputies were of the view that, in order to ensure adequate supervision of the operation of this provision by the Houses of the Oireachtas, the guidelines should be laid before the Houses. The amended subsection now provides that the Minister for Education and Science must lay the guidelines before the Houses within three months after they have been issued.

I ask the Cathaoirleach to ask the Clerk to make a versional correction in line 10, page 4 of the Bill, by inserting commas around the phrase "but not later than three months". This arises from the amendment made to this provision in Dáil Éireann.

Acting Chairman

I assure the Minister that the requested correction will be made.

Question put and agreed to.
Question proposed: "That the Bill do now pass."

I thank the Cathaoirleach, the Leas-Chathaoirleach, the Acting Chairpersons, the Clerk, the Clerk Assistant, the officers of the Seanad and Opposition Members for their help and co-operation during the past six months. I commend the Minister for Education and Science for the manner in which he brought this Bill through the Seanad last week and for his courtesy towards Members. There was no great seriousness in the gentle banter across the Chamber and a number of Members' amendments were accepted which they thought would not be the case.

I wish the Minister, the Cathaoirleach, Members, the staff and the media a very happy and holy Christmas. I hope to see everyone in the New Year.

I support Senator Fitzgerald's expression of good wishes for Christmas and the new year. I congratulate everyone involved in the governance of our country, particularly those involved in the successful and fluent operation of the Seanad, for their good work.

I thank the Minister for his courtesy in coming before the House this morning to deal with these amendments because such details are usually dealt with by a Minister of State. As one who has been used in that manner, I am aware of the tendency to deal with such matters in the Seanad in the past. I also thank the Minister for accepting amendments tabled in the Seanad and in the Dáil because legislation should be teased out properly. Legislation, particularly that coming before the Seanad, should always be dealt with in this way.

This House has an extremely important role to play because it can generally give more time — I accept that the guillotine is used on occasion — to fine combing legislation in greater detail. Members of the Seanad tend to bring less party political paraphernalia to their opinions on legislation, which can be healthy, in other words, Government Senators may disagree with a Minister while Opposition Senators may agree with him or her. Such behaviour would not be politic in the Lower House. That is one of the great advantages of the Seanad and it is not properly recognised. We must be sure not to abuse the areas where the Seanad has a role to play. This House is a safeguard even if it is not so recognised elsewhere. If legislation runs into constitutional trouble or must be promptly returned for amendment, the trouble often arises because it was not given the time and attention to detail that it deserves, particularly in this House. I thank the Minister for accepting amendments from both Houses on this important Bill.

I thank Senators for their kind comments. This is the first Bill I have brought through both Houses of the Oireachtas——

It was initiated in this House.

Yes, so I thought it was fitting and appropriate that it should be finalised here. I wish Members a happy and peaceful Christmas and a prosperous New Year.

Question put and agreed to.

Acting Chairman

When is it proposed to sit again?

It is proposed to adjourn sine die.

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