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Seanad Éireann debate -
Thursday, 28 Jun 2001

Vol. 167 No. 9

Irish National Petroleum Corporation Limited Bill, 2001: Second Stage.

Question proposed: "That the Bill be now read a Second Time."

I was delayed because I got a call to vote in the Dáil, even though I was ready to come into the House.

The primary purpose of this Bill is to allow me, as the shareholder in the Irish National Petroleum Corporation, to discharge certain functions which are essential if the proposed sale of the INPC's business and principal commercial assets, chiefly the Whitegate refinery and the Whiddy oil terminal, to the Tosco Corporation is to be completed. The Bill also includes a number of provisions which could be activated at some stage in the future in the unlikely event that the current sale process cannot proceed to completion.

On 26 May last, legal documents were signed by the INPC and Tosco Corporation which commit the parties to completing the transaction on 16 July, subject to the fulfilment of certain pre-completion conditions. The most significant of these is the enactment of legislation by the Oireachtas to give me powers to perform a number of functions, without which the proposed sale cannot be successfully concluded. In those cir cumstances, the Government agreed to give priority attention to this Bill in spite of the fact that there are many other pressing items in its overall legislative programme. I am appreciative of the fact that both Houses of the Oireachtas have been able to find time for the Bill among the other items of business on their respective agendas.

Senior officials of my Department and the chairman and chief executive officer of the INPC recently met the Joint Committee on Public Enterprise and Transport to explain the terms of the proposed transaction and how it came about. I hope the committee members found the occasion worthwhile – my officials certainly did – and that it will have compensated in some measure for the limitations which have recently been placed on the time available to debate the matter here in the House.

During the debate in the other House last week, Deputy O'Malley reminded us of the circumstances in which he was instrumental in establishing the INPC back in 1979 during the so-called second oil shock, when Ireland was badly in need of additional oil to make up for the shortfall in supplies through the normal channels. At that time, a number of oil producing countries had made it known that they would provide incremental oil supplies only on a state to state basis. The INPC was established to provide a State presence in oil trading in that regard and, in view of the urgency of the situation, it was decided to establish it as a private limited company under the Companies Acts, with the Government as shareholder, rather than have recourse to the more usual method of establishment as a statutory State body with its own dedicated legislation.

Three years later, as part of the oil industry's response to a downturn in world demand for oil products, the private sector oil companies which built and operated the Whitegate refinery decided to withdraw from the facility. The refinery was then acquired by the State and responsibility for its operation was entrusted to the INPC. A further expansion of the INPC's role came about in 1986, when the company also became responsible for the management of the Whiddy oil terminal after the facility was gifted to the State by Chevron, the then owner. The House will recall that the terminal, which dates back to the late 1960s, had been inoperative since the Betelgeuse disaster of 1979 and Chevron was prepared to pay the State a sum of US$44 million to be released from its contractual obligations to reactivate the facility or to restore the site to green field status. In the event, Whiddy continued to lie dormant until the installation of a single point mooring facility made the tanks accessible once again in 1998.

A problem soon emerged with the operation of Whitegate in the State sector as the companies active in the Irish market were adamant that they would not do business with the refinery. In response, an arrangement known as the manda tory regime, or MR, was introduced, which compelled those companies to source 35% of their overall requirements from Whitegate at a premium price which was passed on to the consumer as a levy at the pumps. Without the income associated with the MR, the refinery would not have been able to survive for long, given its technical limitations and the other factors which militated against it operating on a fully commercial basis.

Over the years, the capabilities of the refinery have been improved but its basic drawbacks have remained. Whitegate, for example, lacks scale, technical sophistication and the benefits of integration with the more profitable sectors of the oil business. It operates in a market which is dominated by the local affiliates of the multinational oil companies and is entirely dependent in commercial terms on international refining margins. These margins are outside its control, are subject to wide fluctuations and are more often negative than positive. Against that background and in spite of dedicated and highly professional service from the INPC's management and staff over two decades, Whitegate's fortunes have been dogged by uncertainty and the threat of closure has never been far away.

In those circumstances, State ownership and particularly the availability of financial support under the mandatory regime has provided a lifeline for the INPC, without which Ireland would undoubtedly have lost the benefit of the strategically significant facilities operated by the company. At the same time, it has not been a satisfactory substitute for a proper commercial environment within the mainstream oil industry. Successive Governments have always been concerned about the potential threat to competitiveness posed by the MR and, as the arrangement is subject to annual review, Ministers in charge of the energy portfolio and the INPC itself have always had to live with the prospect that MR support, and consequently the refinery, might not survive from one year to the next.

Dependence on the MR has tended to become especially worrying whenever the necessity for investment at the refinery has arisen. This occurred most recently in the context of the need to adapt the refinery to ensure that its products would be able to meet new emission standards for motor fuels under the EU Auto Oil I programme which were to be effective from the year 2000. The proposal that went to Government at that time seeking approval for the auto oil investment, the cost of which was then estimated at over US$100 million, made it abundantly clear that there was no prospect of the INPC raising the necessary finance without the assurance of MR support at a level commensurate with the need to make the necessary loan repayments in addition to compensating for ongoing operational losses.

It was not a very encouraging prospect, but I am glad the Government was prepared to accept my recommendations and allow the INPC to proceed with its proposed upgrading project, which eventually entailed expenditure of US$75 million. This was a matter of life or death for Whitegate because without the upgrading project, there would have been no market for the refinery's motor fuel output once the new environmental standards came into force. Whitegate would have had to close and with its closure Ireland would have lost an important contributor to security and diversity of oil supply.

The rather bleak prospect of Whitegate's continued reliance on the MR to service its debts and maintain ongoing operations prompted the Government, when approving the new investment, to request the INPC to seek out possibilities for additional commercial activities to underpin the core refining business. No particular type of option was prescribed and nothing was ruled out. It was left to the INPC to use its best efforts to come up with options that could be identified and developed into workable proposals.

The company's enthusiastic, energetic and professionally conducted response to that challenge led to a situation in which the INPC board recommended to me a proposal submitted by the US based Tosco Corporation as representing by far the best and most advantageous prospect in both financial and strategic terms. This assessment was subsequently confirmed by my expert advisers and last July the Government was, therefore, prepared to permit the INPC to confer preferred bidder status on that company.

During the intervening year there have been intensive discussions on the proposal between the two parties. My officials and those of the Minister for Finance, with the help of independent financial and legal experts, were closely involved in this stage of the process to ensure that the shareholder interests were fully addressed throughout. Their attention to the detail of the small print and its implications meant that at times the process did not move as fast as some might have wished. However, we are dealing with a proposal to dispose of a strategic State asset. It is better in the long run that all concerned should be clear from the outset about what is expected of them once all the formalities have been completed.

The long process of negotiation has produced a proposal which I have been prepared to recommend to my Cabinet colleagues simply because I consider it to be in the best interests of INPC, of its workforce and of the country. Some concern has been expressed about the fact that the actual sale and purchase agreement and other documents on which the transaction is based have not been made public. I want to assure the House that this is simply because those documents contain provisions which are subject to the requirements of commercial confidentiality. All of the important elements of the deal have been incorporated in speeches and published statements in summary form and have gone on the public record. If and when the transaction is completed, a data room will be established where all relevant information will be made available, subject to the usual provisions of the Freedom of Information Act, 1997. In the meantime, Senators can be assured that the elements of the package are those which have been publicly stated.

There was a public hearing at the Oireachtas Joint Committee on Public Enterprise with the Secretary General of the Department and his officials where the issue was thrashed out fully and all who wanted to go that public meeting were welcome. There are no secret documents, hidden clauses or behind-hand deals of which I am aware, and this will become apparent when the time is right.

In the first place, in any disposal we think of the price achieved and in this case, INPC will receive US$100 million from Tosco. INPC will also retain the proceeds from existing debtors, and will be paid for its trading stocks at market prices on completion of the sale. INPC, and eventually the National Oil Reserves Agency, will also retain certain stocks originally acquired in 1990, at the direction of the Government, for strategic rather than trading purposes. On the other side of the equation, INPC will continue to be liable for the existing debt of about £70 million, most of which is due to the Auto Oil I loan, and for existing liabilities to trade creditors. The funding of the ESOP will also come out of the sale proceeds.

After all of these adjustments have been made, the net proceeds to the Exchequer will be considerably less than the headline figure of US$100 million. What exactly the net figure will be is difficult to say with certainty, as it changes from day to day in line with fluctuations in oil prices and currency exchange rates, for example, and the final amount will have to be recalculated at the time of completion. However, some indication may be had from the fact that a snapshot of the situation at the end of April 2001 put the net figure at approximately £70 million. Even allowing for adverse currency and price movements in the interim, the final outcome will be a positive transfer to the State, and this is considered satisfactory.

The proceeds to the State will, as is usual, be paid into the Exchequer, and it is not for me to decide that any portion of them should be applied for a particular purpose. I say that because I am aware that there is a strong body of opinion that moneys realised by the sale should provide a basis for financial assistance for a new pier and other developmental works in the Bantry area. I can only say that I will mention the representations which have been made to me in the proper quarter, that is, to the Minister for Finance, but obviously I am in no position to say what might be decided in a matter which spans a number of areas of responsibility outside my own. It would also involve the Minister for the Marine and Natural Resources and his Department.

While the transaction will undoubtedly be satisfactory for the State in financial terms, the principal benefit is the fact that for the first time in almost 20 years, there can be a solid basis for the future of both the refinery and the terminal, and for the strategic contribution they make to our economy.

It is a very long speech. I am sorry if the Senator is bored but I cannot do anything about it.

I am not bored.

If I did not make a long speech, the Senators would say that I was dodging the issue.

Absolutely.

It is 22 pages long and twice the length of the speech I gave in the Dáil. That shows the esteem in which I hold the Seanad.

It is a tribute to the House.

One of the main elements in the Tosco proposal is a written undertaking to operate and invest in the facilities on a fully commercial basis for at least 15 years. I have been given to understand by Tosco's chairman that in the corporation's plans for the Irish acquisitions, 15 years is only the beginning and that Tosco is here for the long haul. This commitment includes an undertaking to carry out whatever developmental work is necessary to meet new environmental standards beginning with Auto Oil II – I spoke of Auto Oil I earlier – which is due to come into effect in 2005. The task of investing to meet such requirements would present further major difficulties in the context of the need for increased MR support if the refinery were to remain in State ownership.

The Tosco commitment to continued operation of the facilities is a major consideration in national and strategic terms. Since 1982, as we have seen, the State has been prepared to support INPC through the operation of the MR because of the strategic significance of having refining capacity on the island. However, State support has rarely been more than barely adequate, especially as regards developmental requirements – a welcome lifeline when nothing else was available but a poor substitute for a proper commercial environment.

The proposed deal with the Tosco Corporation changes all that, and offers the prospect of a secure and prosperous future for the refinery and the terminal in the context of a major player in the oil industry, which has the resources and the motivation to operate and develop these assets. In other words, the new owners, in responding to their own commercial imperatives, without assistance from the State, will thereby underpin the contribution that these facilities make to our oil supply security. Furthermore, they will do so on a basis that represents a significant improvement on the State's own ability to make commitments under the MR or any alternative support mechanism that could be realistically or legally contemplated.

In addition to its national significance, Tosco's commitment is good news indeed for the INPC staff, who have had to live with the continued uncertainty of employment on a year-to-year basis under the mandatory regime. The new owners are undertaking to preserve existing jobs and conditions of employment, including pension rights, within the framework of the 15 year commitment. At the same time, the Tosco Corporation's economic scale and technological capabilities offer the prospect of career development opportunities which would never have been possible within the confines of a stand alone INPC.

As I said in the Dáil, in my visits to that part of Cork I found the staff of INPC, employees and management, extremely dedicated and committed. I spoke in the other House of the friendly air which always permeated the operations, the welcome one got, the keenness with which the employees tackled their work and the difficulties which management and employees surmounted working together. Even in the short period I have been in the Department I know of many difficulties which they overcame. Above all, there was a sense that this is an east Cork facility which was good to have in one's neighbourhood, that there was a commitment to keeping it there and, most of all, of working in an enthusiastic way. There were no boundaries between managers and workers. There was just a keen edge to getting the work done and to contributing to the local economy, which they have done so well over a considerable number of years.

How binding is the commitment to continued operation of the INPC facilities under new ownership? That question was raised by a number of Deputies in the other House and is one which is very understandable as we move from the familiar territory of State stewardship, however unsatisfactory in this case because of the MR, to placing our trust in what for most of us is an unknown quantity.

In the first place, I emphasise that Tosco Corporation's key commitments have been requested and given in the most binding possible legal form. However, it would be foolish in the present instance to depend on possible legal remedies alone, and it is more pertinent to ask whether we are sure that the prospective purchaser has the capability and the incentive to deliver on its solemn undertakings under the terms of the agreement with the Irish side.

What is the Tosco Corporation and does it have the critical mass to deliver on its promises? Although not well known on this side of the Atlantic outside the oil business, Tosco Corporation is a multi-billion dollar undertaking whose resource base will increase later in the year when it is expected to merge with the US oil giant, the Phillips Petroleum Corporation. Already the third largest refiner and marketer of oil products in the US, Tosco, enjoys substantial benefits in terms of operational scale, technological capabilities, business integration and operating synergies that are far beyond the State's ability to replicate for Whitegate.

The INPC facilities will find a niche within the overall Tosco business plan, adding value to the extended Tosco family while continuing to serve the Irish market. I am aware that there are fears on the part of some of the smaller Irish oil companies that they will no longer be able to source their supplies on competitive terms. However, I am aware that throughout the talks Tosco has always been anxious to secure the benefits of all of the revenue streams enjoyed by the INPC, as one might expect.

Under the terms of the proposed transaction, the existing contracts between INPC and its customers will pass to the new owners and will fall to be regulated under normal commercial terms and arrangements between the parties. I have no reason to think that the corporation would subsequently turn away business from these customers. Of course, in conducting its business here, Tosco will be subject to Irish and EU legislation on competition and related matters, including health and safety and environmental matters, on the same basis as any other company and it would be open to any parties who feel that they are being unfavourably treated to seek the appropriate legal remedies.

References were made in the other House to the possibility that the proposed transaction might encounter difficulties at EU level. My Department has received a standard inquiry from the EU Commission seeking information about certain aspects. I understand that a reply to that query will issue by close of business tomorrow and any further information will be readily provided on request.

Acquiring the Irish facilities is a very significant first step outside the US for Tosco and not one that the corporation is taking lightly. It will have carefully calculated the acquisition as a business proposition and will be expecting a return on its investment. It will also have taken account of the fact that in using Ireland as a base for its entry into Europe it is putting its reputation on the line in making a high profile commitment that goes beyond the $100 million dollars I mentioned earlier. In summary, Tosco has not only the resources but also the clear incentive in terms of its own self-interest to honour its commitments under the proposed transaction by making a success of its acquisitions in this country, now and in the longer term.

The Bill contains provisions which are a prerequisite for completing the proposed transaction and are consequently necessary to ensure that Ireland secures the benefits I have already mentioned. It has been clear for some time that because INPC is not a statutory State body, legislation of this kind would be necessary to underpin the proposed transaction. However, it was only in recent weeks, with the signing of the legal documents, that we had an assurance that there was a definite deal on the table and a clear indication of the provisions that would have to be enshrined in the proposed Bill.

The Bill contains two principal provisions that are central to my functions in relation to the completion of the proposed sale. Section 6 empowers me, with the consent of the Minister for Finance, to authorise INPC to dispose of its assets, including its shares in the subsidiaries that operate the refinery and the terminal, to the purchaser. This is fundamental to the whole transaction. The section also allows me to authorise the INPC to make payments in relation to the establishment and funding of a trust to provide for an employee share ownership plan, or ESOP, to facilitate the proposed sale.

Following a number of meetings between union representatives, the company, senior officials of my Department, the Department of Finance and myself, agreement was finally reached on a specific offer in relation to a proposed ESOP which the unions recommended to their members. I understand that the results of the employees' ballot on the offer, announced earlier this week, indicated that a majority of over 80% of employees were in favour of acceptance. This is a very welcome outcome. Not alone does it represent fulfilment of a significant pre-completion condition but also indicates the very strong support of the workforce for the future of the company under Tosco. As Senators will know, I have always believed that securing the co-operation of the workforce is a prerequisite for the successful implementation of change in any State company and INPC could well serve as a model in that regard.

Section 8 gives me the authority, once again with the consent of the Minister for Finance, to provide a guarantee in respect of certain potential liabilities of the INPC under the sale and purchase agreement. Some disquiet about this provision was expressed in the Dáil but such a guarantee is usual in a transaction of this kind and there is nothing either extraordinary or sinister about it. The potential liabilities in question, which include potential environmental risks, are based on the general principle that INPC is liable for issues which pre-date the sale while Tosco will be liable for matters relating to post-completion circumstances.

However, I would like to draw the attention of the House to the fact that within that general framework and as a result of the very hard bargaining that took place on this particular aspect of the proposed transaction, there are now very significant limits in place in terms of both time and money on the extent of INPC's – and hence the State's – potential exposure. In money terms, that liability is capped at US$75 million and the terms of the guarantee – with one exception – will expire over varying periods, the longest of which is 12 years, depending on the nature of the risk. If, on the other hand, INPC had pressed Tosco, against industry norms, to take on all responsibility for potential risks, such an approach, if accepted by the purchaser, would have resulted in the certainty of a very substantial reduction in the purchase price on offer. The one exception to this relates to the jetty at Whiddy Island, which was destroyed by fire in the 1979 disaster. The derelict structure is completely non-productive and neither Tosco nor any other commercial company could be expected to take responsibility for it. Consequently, the State will continue to bear the potential liability it acquired in relation to the jetty when it took over the terminal in 1986 and the Tosco deal does not involve any additional exposure in that regard.

I have been advised by the INPC that it may be possible to insure against the environmental risks covered by the guarantee for a relatively modest once-off payment. I have requested the company to actively pursue this aspect, not only in respect of potential environmental risks but also in relation to all of the contingent liabilities under the sale and purchase agreement. I understand that the INPC has requested quotations from a number of sources, and these will be carefully examined to ensure that they fully address all of the potential exposures on cost-effective terms. The Bill requires me and my successors on an annual basis to lay before each House a statement setting out the amount of any payment which was made during the year under the guarantee, together with an indication of the amount covered by the guarantee that was outstanding at the end of the year.

On the subject of environmental and indeed safety risks, questions were asked in the course of the debate in the Dáil about Tosco's record in these areas, chiefly in the light of a number of well publicised accidents at its California facilities. I would be the last person to minimise the importance of operating to high standards in relation to safety and environmental sensitivity, and I raised these matters personally with the chairman of Tosco when I met him on two occasions. I understand that Tosco's safety record is now close to the top of the league table in the US and that statistics show that the safety record of refineries it has acquired has actually improved after the Tosco takeover. I believe that the company has taken to heart the lessons of the past and I understand that it has radically overhauled its approach to safety and quality control, using the DuPont and other recognised industry standards. These standards, regarded as representing the best commitment to safety in the oil industry, aim to achieve zero deaths, injuries, work related illnesses and incidents. I have never before come across reference to the term "zero deaths". It is part of the DuPont industry standard. Human endeavour is an aspect.

Tosco's philosophy places primary responsibility for safety, health and the environment within the operating companies, right down to the level of each individual employee, backed up by management systems that are geared towards continuous improvement. In an expansion of existing programmes, a new senior corporate office for safety, health and the environment has been formed, headed by a senior vice-president who reports to the chairman, to carry these concerns to the highest level within the corporation. Tosco has learned the hard way that in addition to the obvious and overriding humanitarian considerations, accidents, whether they involve death, injury or environmental damage, are bad for business. In addition to costs associated with lawsuits, compensation, fines or clean up programmes, they mean expensive disruption of production and lost revenues. It is in the self-interest of the operators of facilities to take whatever steps are necessary to ensure that they do not occur in the first place.

Furthermore, Tosco in coming to Ireland would be subject, like any indigenous company or incoming multinational, to the safety and environmental laws that apply to the industry in question. Whitegate and Whiddy, if they operate under the Tosco banner, will continue to be governed by the existing strict EPA and HSA regimes. The management and staff who are responsible for INPC's enviable health, safety and environmentally friendly culture will still be at their posts. The same employees and management will continue to run the INPC/Tosco facilities. In the interests of maintaining the return on its investment, Tosco will have every incentive to ensure that INPC's long-standing record on safe and good neighbourly operations is maintained.

The State's motivation in supporting INPC over the years has been grounded in the contribution it makes to security of oil supply. A further major element in our oil security apparatus is the maintenance of a 90 day oil reserve in line with our obligations in the context of EU legislation and the emergency oil sharing arrangements maintained by the International Energy Agency. Since 1995, responsibility for maintaining these reserves has been a matter for the National Oil Reserves Agency, or NORA as it is more commonly called.

Although NORA is a subsidiary of INPC, I have expressly excluded it from the terms of the proposed sale. This is because NORA does not have a commercial function, but acts as the agent of the Minister. It is the custodian of oil stocks which have been acquired on the basis of a dedicated levy on consumers and taken out of the market to be set aside for strategic purposes. Arrangements are being made to ensure that NORA will continue to function within the public sector. The agency, which had separate representation throughout the talks with Tosco, will enter into arm's length, commercially-based contracts in respect of storage of a volume of its stocks at Whiddy and Whitegate. This is to be expected as NORA needs to have stocks in Ireland for strategic reasons and the main available tankage is situated at those locations. NORA has other commercial storage contracts at home and abroad and will continue to welcome further competitively-priced bids from storage providers.

In order to provide a clear legal basis for the safeguarding of strategic stocks in the context of the Tosco transaction, the Bill as amended includes a provision in section 7 which will allow me, notwithstanding the provisions of any other legislation, to order, with the consent of the Minister for Finance, the transfer of the agency and its stocks out of INPC. The section also provides for the transfer from INPC of the stocks which were acquired by the corporation in 1990 during the Gulf crisis before NORA came into being. The intention is to ensure that these stocks can continue to be reserved for Ireland's strategic purposes as part of NORA's overall stockholding.

These are the provisions of the legislation that impinge directly or indirectly on the proposed sale. At the same time, some account must be taken of the possibility, however unlikely, that the proposed transaction for one reason or another might not proceed to completion. I am, therefore, taking the opportunity to include provisions in the legislation to permit a share sale to another purchaser or purchasers in the future and to allow INPC to implement an ESOP in the event that the sale to Tosco is not completed. Hopefully, these particular provisions will never have to be acted on and the transaction will go ahead to completion.

For almost 20 years, the INPC facilities have had to operate outside their natural private sector environment and no one would try to argue that this was anything but a stopgap arrangement, characterised by uncertainty, limited planning horizons and less than optimum levels of investment. The Tosco proposal offers the opportunity for the refinery and the terminal to thrive in their natural environment as part of a major oil company which has the resources, incentive and cultural disposition to invest in and develop the business. These strategically significant resources will be retained for the country, but on the basis of robust business models rather than artificial, uncertain and, ultimately, inadequate external support mechanisms.

The mandatory regime levy enabled Whitegate and Whiddy to continue their work, but the levy was eventually passed on to consumers at the pumps. The levy was limited because it only allowed INPC to continue on a yearly basis. It did not allow for expansion and £70 million had to be devoted to meeting the requirements of the Auto Oil I programme. The Auto Oil II programme will come into force in 2005 and will involve further expansion with regard to environmental aspects. It will ensure business in this area is conducted in a proper environment and there may be further Auto Oil programmes in the future. All this means that INPC in its current form could not continue to exist, flourish, expand, progress or fulfil its environmental requirements

I pay tribute to all those in INPC who kept the oil flowing over the years. Where one might have expected a history of low morale, lacklustre performance and industrial dissension, INPC and its staff can look back on an exemplary record of productivity, industrial harmony and safe and environmentally friendly operations. Now, for the first time in 20 years, there is the prospect of job security and career development. I congratulate INPC management and staff, past and present, and I pay particular tribute to the current chairman, who was a board member for many years, and other board members over the years who, in terms of civic duty, gave their time and commitment to the successful operation of INPC.

I wish to draw attention to a misprint in the text of the Bill. Due to a typographical error, there is a reference in section 7(5)(b) to the year 1990 instead of 1999 as intended. I hereby ask the Leas-Chathaoirleach to direct the Clerk under Standing Order No. 121 to correct this error.

An Leas-Chathaoirleach

I so direct the Clerk.

I commend the Bill to the House. I regret that my contribution was so long – I am not one for long speeches – but many concerns and questions were raised during the Dáil debate and I thought that every piece of information should be given during my contribution here so that the Bill and its purpose are clear.

This is an important matter and the Bill is supported by the Fine Gael Party. We will try to facilitate the passage of all Stages today.

I thank the Senator.

The Minister addressed some of the issues that have arisen, but I received representations from Mr. Donal Gordan, a director of Tedcastles Oil Products. It is a major Irish-owned company which has concerns about the Bill. I am sure the Minister and her Department received a copy of the letter, but I wish to outline some important parts of it. He stated that Tedcastles operates through its subsidiary, TOP, a national network of 170 service stations and provides a wide range of commercial and agricultural fuels. The company considers, in common with other indigenous fuel companies, that its ability to source fuel supplies from the national refinery in Whitegate is essential to its ability to compete with the major international oil companies.

The national refinery has given Irish companies an opportunity to offer competitive choices to their customers. While 74% of the market is controlled by four major companies, Irish companies own significant regional areas and have a large market share in, for instance, Munster and Connacht. Given the importance of Whitegate to the Irish economy and the consequences of allowing a global company to operate as a private monopoly, it is imperative that some key obligations be imposed on the purchaser of Whitegate to operate this important national asset in a way which recognises its strategic importance. Excellent though the private owners of this company will be, market forces could operate against indigenous companies so that they will not be able to source their product as easily as other international companies can. I have been asked to raise this issue and the Minister will, no doubt, be able to answer it.

When the Bill was debated in the Dáil, Deputies inquired about the view of the European Union on this issue. The Minister said she has received the standard inquiry from the EU Commission which she will respond to by the close of business tomorrow. Can the Minister explain the nature of that query? Is it part of an ongoing correspondence between her Department and the European Union or is it a matter which has arisen only now? This point could have been clarified if the matter had been resolved with the European Union before the legislation was brought before the Oireachtas.

It is important that the career structures of the company's present employees be maintained. Given the consent of the workers to the move from INPC to Tosco, which was expressed in their vote, it is important that they be offered new careers and opportunities in their new roles.

The process offers a significant foothold to a major American player in the European market. This is an important factor in Tosco's coming to Ireland. We speak the same language and already have important facilities in County Cork. One asks, however, why European companies which were asked to tender did not value the asset as much as the American company does? Given our strategic importance in Europe and our increasing involvement in the European Union, what consideration did the Minister and her Department give to the fact that we are moving outside the European Union and placing a strategically important reserve in the hands of an American company? I have nothing against American companies but I ask why the facility was valued so little in Europe and so much in America? The fact that Tosco is opening its European headquarters in Dublin is a significant development. The company clearly intends to become an important player in the European market and the move is good for the company and good for us. I merely raise these issues and look forward to hearing the Minister's response.

I have been told that Tosco is in the middle rather than the top range in terms of its world environmental and safety records. The Minister has referred to these issues at length in her speech. I welcome the personal assurances she has been given by the chairman of the company and the fact that the company has undergone significant change following recent safety and environmental problems. The company will be required to upgrade its facilities in Europe considerably. I presume the Environmental Protection Agency will oversee this process and I know the agency will pay particular attention to this issue. It is, however, a matter for concern. I acknowledge that the Minister has drawn attention to this.

The Minister referred to the concern expressed in the Dáil about the sale and the purchase agreement. Some Deputies requested that the documents relating to the agreement be made public. The Minister properly said that commercial factors dictate that the documentation should not be made public at this stage but will be available under the terms of the Freedom of Information Act. The Minister said, "There are no secret documents, hidden clauses or behind-hand deals of which I am aware, and this will become apparent when the time is right." I wonder about the phrase, "of which I am aware".

I do not know of any and I am sure there are none.

One could interpret the phrase as meaning that there are others of which the Minister is not aware.

That is the nature of those deals.

Things are coming to light now of which we were never aware.

I raise the point in a constructive manner. The Minister has said that is the extent of her knowledge and I presume it is the extent of her Department's knowledge also.

That clears up the issue. On balance, what the Department is doing is constructive. It will lead to an increasing role in Ireland and Europe for a significant American player in the oil business. My only concern relates to the Tedcastles issue and I hope the Minister will address this concern in her reply.

In an effort to expedite the business, Opposition amendments which were tabled in the Dáil have been withdrawn. Can the Minister comment on one of these issues?

An Leas-Chathaoirleach

It would be better to deal with that question when we discuss the relevant section on Committee Stage.

Thank you. I will leave it until then.

I welcome the Minister to the House. The Minister expressed concern about the length of her speech. In the case of the Minister for Public Enterprise, patience in waiting is never a waste of time and we have been reassured in that belief today. The Minister has been informative and insightful. I welcome the Bill and the manner in which the Minister has succeeded in securing the co-operation of both Houses to bring it forward at this early stage. This is in line with commitments entered into in relation to the proposed deal. The Minister must discharge cer tain functions to enable the proposed sale to proceed to completion.

I am heartened to learn that Fine Gael and, I understand, the Labour Party have welcomed the Bill. The Bill contains many positive features and heralds a new regime for an organisation which has suffered much trauma, insecurity and uncertainty for a number of years. Because of the assurances which have been given to the Minister and her officials and because of the expertise she has brought to bear on the matter, we can be confident that a new era is dawning for this operation.

INPC's refinery at Whitegate played a key role in Ireland's overall arrangements regarding security and diversity of oil supply. In February 1999, in approving a major life or death investment programme at Whitegate, the Government took note of the financial insecurity of INPC's refining operations and the continuing dependence on the artificial support under the MR regime which is still in existence. Thankfully we have heard that it will no longer be required if and when this proposal of sale is completed. From the State's point of view, these security of operations were vital. We now have the prospect of a new regime committed with security of operations for at least 15 years and with a commitment to maintain existing jobs and employment.

As an island nation, we need the security of supply and the stocks and services are also very important concerns and I understand that they have been met by the proposal of sale which is before the Minister for her consideration. The Minister referred to the history of the INPC and I wish to comment very briefly. It goes back to the 1970s when Ireland and the rest of the world were subjected to two huge crises, referred to as the oil crises – in the early 1970s and in 1979. These crises had a huge impact on economic activity. Economies were moving forward and seeking full employment and high growth and low inflation. Ireland in particular had these same targets and was hit like a bolt from the blue with a second oil crisis in 1979. The effects were in many instances quite devastating. The disruption to supply, the insecurity and the uncertainty had a major impact on commercial and industrial activity at the time and had a significant impact on the quality of social life. Not alone was there insecurity of supply for commercial operations, there was also insecurity of supply for private motorists. We all recall the stark scenes of petrol stations closing down for days and sometimes weeks at a time and large queues outside service stations as people tried to access a gallon or two of petrol. The whole country was in turmoil.

It was in this context that the then Government and Minister, Deputy O'Malley, decided to establish the INPC. We know that at the heart of that crisis was the decision by the major oil producing companies to pump up the price of oil or to refuse to sell oil except on a state by state basis. They allowed the market become demand led by acutely cutting down on the availability of supply. There is no doubt that the establishment of the INPC at a time of such monumental crisis which had the potential to do irreparable harm and damage to the economy, was a very significant contribution to the stability of the situation in the short to medium term. In the period of time since then, it has served a very vital function in providing a cushion of security for consumers.

Following the second oil crisis, there was a downturn in the world demand for oil. Domestic and commercial consumers decided to exploit other means of energy supply. In 1982, as part of the oil industry's response to the downturn, the private sector owners of Whitegate decided to get out. The State acquired the refinery and the INPC was entrusted with the responsibility of operating it. A further development took place a few years later when in 1986 the Whiddy oil terminal was given to the State by the then owners.

Whitegate has been problematic from the word go. The State, while accepting, acknowledging and determined to ensure that this vital national resource should be continued, was always aware of the problems of operating the mandatory regime. The operation could not and did not have the facility to move into a proper commercial environment. It simply could not survive in the kind of commercial environment of the time or since. It has constantly relied on the mandatory regime in its efforts to survive. When there is a levy on companies, that levy is passed on at the pumps and the effects are felt right through the system. Successive Governments were determined to continue that arrangement because of the vital resource involved. That arrangement has continued, some would say successfully others would say it has flipped on from year to year.

Not alone did it hamper the development of that operation which never became commercially viable, but it also created enormous consequences for the employees. They were living in an employment environment that was full of uncertainty with little or no prospect for job security or career development. I endorse fully the sentiments expressed by the Minister and Senator O'Dowd and other speakers in the other House. The employees had a most remarkable and commendable record of achievement over those years. There are many examples of employees in vital national resources who certainly would not have matched up to the calibre of person employed in Whitegate. I do not wish to be divisive or negative but when one considers the environment in which they were forced to operate and the vital resource they had to provide, and the uncertainty that successive Governments could neither alleviate nor allay, they did a magnificent job in keeping the oil flowing. Oil was a fuel that was needed and they kept the supplies available in an uninterrupted way. All due credit must go to them.

The State faced the ongoing problem of quality of operations to meet international standards. The conditions laid down in Auto Oil I had to be met. The forthcoming Auto Oil II is in 2005. Further substantial investment was going to be required to meet the quality and environmental conditions in line with Auto Oil II. The State has been in the recent past faced with serious dilemmas in having to provide substantial investment to upgrade and refurbish facilities in Whitegate. In line with this commitment to ensure the continuity of this key facility, that investment has been made.

The Minister had to look to the desirability of providing this support system on an ongoing basis and the financial implications of doing so. I commend the Minister for setting in train an investigative and assessment process between her senior officials and the industry and also for calling in key independent experts to look at the overall situation and to identify the commercial prospects for future viability.

It is obvious from what the Minister has said that the prospects were not good. The power of the Government to continue with this kind of investment was, I understand, called into question. Given developments and EU directives, the desirability of continuing to invest in a facility that was not capable standing alone had to be seriously looked at. Consequently, as a result of extensive research and a directive from the Minister to identify and target the commercial operations interested in an arrangement with INPC the Minister, having considered the offers and following expert advice, was happy that the best offer was from Tosco Corporation. She recommended the Tosco offer which has been examined in minute detail during the past 12 months. On some date in May an agreement was signed with a view to finalising the matter in mid-July. In line with that the legislation is before the House.

As I do not profess to have a great degree of knowledge or expertise on this industry, I spoke with some of my colleagues from Cork last evening when I realised I would be contributing to the debate. I apologise on behalf of Senator O'Donovan who cannot be here. He had intended to take this Bill and would have a great deal of local knowledge. I had the opportunity to discuss the matter with him and was reassured to learn that clarification on the main concerns of the employees in regard to job security, conditions of employment, pensions for present employees and pensioners was sought in the other House and by the employees, to whom the Minister referred positively today in terms of the discussions that have taken place with them. I understand they have been assured that their legitimate concerns are being met in the terms of this legislation. That is a reassuring prerequisite to the new arrangements. I commend the Minister on section 6 in which includes the facility for an employee share ownership plan. It will be a tremendous benefit to the employees, who have greeted it warmly.

I knew nothing about Tosco Corporation until I began to discuss the matter last evening with my colleagues. I am aware it is a multi-billion dollar operator and that it is expected to merge with Phillips Petroleum Corporation, thus further enhancing its status in the world oil market scene. I understand INPC will be a constituent part of this overall operation. That Ireland will be used as the hub for further expansion into Europe and beyond by this large corporation will ensure that INPC's role for the future and the development of its employment prospects will be assured. I am happy that INPC is entering a new era. Tosco's chief executive officer has assured the Minister that the 15 year period is only the beginning in the corporation's plans for using the Irish hub.

I wish the project well. The Minister's decision to accept the proposal is a good one and I have no doubt that INPC will make a significant contribution as a constituent part of this large corporation in the years ahead.

I had intended to share time with my colleague Senator Quinn. As there does not seem to be an enormous queue building up he has decided to take his chance on the open market like the INPC.

I am sure his words will flow like the oil.

I am sure he will be as vivacious as usual. We all welcome the Minister to the House. I understand exactly the reasons the Minister used a prepared script but it constrained her style somewhat because—

I hate it.

—we are used to her in full flow. I am sure that on Committee Stage her talents will be given full range. Like my colleagues I have been circulated with a memorandum from Tedcastles. It has some concerns but I am sure the Minister will be able to assuage them. However, I wish to put one or two of them on the record and ask if they can be looked at.

The context has already been laid before the House by other Senators. There are four large major oil companies and seven smaller Irish-owned companies which have a local distribution network and receive oil on what is a fairly advantageous basis. I understand there is some dispute over charges between Tedcastles and INPC. It is concerned that there might be a private monopoly in oil refining. It is concerned about the monopoly aspect although this seems to be more or less inevitable and it is unusual for a commercial company to complain about the operation of the free market.

It also raised concerns about the size of Tosco and pointed out that it has a turnover of £23 billion, 23 times the net purchase of oil per annum in this country. I understand from the Minister and also from sources within INPC that this is precisely the reason the deal is going ahead. It is a question of economies of scale and even the giant American oil companies, such as Exxon and Mobil, have merged precisely to provide even further economies of scale. Because of the size of the new entity that will own and operate the refinery there, it will be in a position to secure crude oil on a better basis and at a cheaper level than a small individual Irish refinery could do.

Two questions remain from my point of view. Tedcastles says no commitments are being given in relation to the supply of fuel to existing customers with a heavy reliance on Whitegate. Perhaps the Minister will comment on that. Whether it is possible legally to put this kind of guarantee into the financial arrangement into which the Government is entering is a matter on which I cannot comment but perhaps the Minister would do so. Aside from imposing obligations to honour the commitments given by Tosco in its discussions with the State, it is also vital that the new owners be obliged to treat all customers of the refinery fairly and on a non-discriminatory basis. I assume it would be in its interests so to do but perhaps the Minister would like to give an assurance to this group, which clearly has an interest in it.

The Minister said clearly that the Bill is ready to facilitate her in the disposal of the principal assets of the company, Bantry and Whitegate. However, she has not said anything about the surviving entity, if it does survive, the Irish National Petroleum Corporation. I assume it is not being totally dissolved and there is a future for it. It is significant and important that we should have a long-term Government oil policy precisely to avoid falling into the kind of difficulties we had during previous unanticipated turbulance in the oil market. I would like to think the Government as a matter of form had a continuing alertness to changes in the oil market. I assume the INPC will be retained at least as a skeleton. Will it have an office, will it have staff and what will be its function in terms of Government or will it be completely dissolved?

One of the reasons I ask that, and I will not tread into dangerous ground even though I am rather tempted because I am a gossipy sort of person, is that I have had some slight acquaintance with the present chief executive officer of INPC who is in the Visitors' Gallery today. He is not only a charming person but also a man of very subtle intellect. I will not give details but I have had the pleasure of observing him in operation, at close quarters, outside the borders of this country. It seemed that, in his capacity as chief executive, he was able to operate in an area on the margins between politics and business, in the sense that he had considerable diplomatic skills and was obviously taking a very long range view of the requirements at this stage in relation to the provision of oil supply. I hope the Government will continue to have the advice of somebody of that standing within the oil industry and with that close view because it is important that we secure the oil position for this country. I ask that question in relation to the INPC.

I also have another question. In the apparently unlikely event that we have a bonanza in terms of oil being discovered – that is a possibility because, with improving technology, it is now commercially feasible for companies to go out to greater depths on the Atlantic shelf – what happens if, to everybody's surprise and delight, we literally strike oil and find that we have reasonably satisfactory and ample supplies of oil somewhere off the coast of Ireland? Will the absence of a State owned and controlled oil refinery place the discoverers of this oil, and the country, at a disadvantage? That is a hypothetical question concerning the future. What are the downsides or disadvantages of not having an oil refinery in this country?

Before I proceed to amble around the Minister's speech, I wish to refer to the question of the environment and health and safety. The Minister said something which I found interesting. She said that Tosco has learned the hard way. That seems significant. She also stated that the company has an ambition of "zero death" and so on. That is very reassuring for the employees. I would certainly like to be sure I worked in a profession where zero death was the aim of management. That does not seem an extravagant aim. I hope their view of safety is a little more refined than that. When the Minister says they have learned the hard way, I assume they have a reasonably muddy track record in this regard. It is worthwhile for us to keep an eye on them and particularly to ensure that the Environmental Protection Agency does so.

I do not wish to distribute my poisoned bouquets only to the commercial world. I am not sure that the Department has a great record either in this area. I am particularly worried by the Minister's reference to Whiddy Island after the Betelgeuse explosion. She said:

The derelict structure is completely non-productive and neither Tosco nor any other commercial company could be expected to take responsibility for it. Consequently, the State will continue to bear the potential liability it acquired in relation to the jetty when it took over the terminal in 1986, and the Tosco deal does not involve any additional exposure in that regard.

What is the intention with regard to the derelict site? How derelict is it? Is there no use to which it could be put? Will it be left in a state of ruin? Is it an eyesore? In other words, is it sufficient just to say we have a derelict structure and we will absolve Tosco from any involvement with it, setting that company's mind at rest? What of the impact on the locality of the continuation of a derelict area? I suggest we have a responsibility to tidy it up.

I am prepared to welcome this Bill. It is understandable that we should wish to involve ourselves in something which has economies of scale and would be of advantage. Apparently, a guarantee is being given that it will be operated on a full commercial basis for at least 15 years. That is satisfactory and I congratulate those involved in negotiating such a deal. It is also satisfactory, I have been informed directly, to the senior management and it is significant that, in a ballot of the workers, 80% were in favour. It seems, therefore, that the people most directly concerned are virtually unanimous in considering this a good deal. That is understandable. There seems to have been a little sealed circuit in Whitegate, outside which there was nowhere for talented executives to go. In the new situation, as part of a much broader structure in a multinational organisation, they can pursue their careers to the limit of their talents. That is good. It is also good that personnel can move in the other direction, bringing in expertise from the parent company to Ireland.

Senator O'Dowd was concerned that there was apparently little interest from Europe and significant interest from America. I would have thought that a fairly clear reason is that Europe is not exporting oil to America. For the American oil companies, it is obviously a positive consideration to have a beachhead into the enormous European market, strategically based in Ireland with a literate workforce and a favourable economic climate.

I was rather pleased by the unintentional literary echoes of the various acronyms used. NORA, of course, suggests Nora Barnacle to me—

There are Noras nearer home.

Indeed there are. Was a predecessor of the Minister's not also named Nora? I am happy to end on a light note and I look forward to further banter with the Minister during the further Stages of the Bill, when she is off the leash, having done her duty in putting the substantial material so clearly and unambiguously on the record. We can tease matters out and, perhaps, enjoy ourselves in the process.

I will recap briefly on my questions. I asked about the INPC, the implications of not having a refinery in the event of a possible oil discovery and the ultimate fate of the scene of dereliction at Whiddy Island.

I welcome the Minister to the House and I also welcome the Bill. I compliment the Minister on her customary brevity. She apologised for sticking to her script in this case but we know she believes in brevity. I will do my best to follow through. When I first read this Bill, it immediately attracted my attention that a $23 billion company, sounding rather like a supermarket company, was to buy our oil refinery.

Whatever need there was for the INPC in the past – clearly there was such a need, just as there had been a need to protect our flour milling industry in time of war – we now recognise the new situation, as described in the Minister's words: "At the same time, it has never been a satisfactory substitute for a proper commercial environment within the mainstream oil industry." I agree entirely with the Minister on that. I also like her choice of words in relation to the people involved in the companies: "enthusiastic, energetic and professionally conducted response to the challenge". I gather this changeover has been very successful, as has the response to the challenges faced over the years.

I have one or two queries. Whenever we sell something, we tend to use the analogy of the family silver. Is the Minister happy with the price? She seems to be. She spoke of a figure of £100 million, coming down, perhaps, to a net £70 million. That sounds like a fine figure. I know there have been expressions of concern about the transparency of the sale and I understand there is a threat of a plea to the Competition Authority in that regard. I noted the Minister's words when she said:

The INPC board recommended to me a proposal submitted by the US-based Tosco Corporation as representing by far the best and most advantageous prospect in both financial and strategic terms. This assessment was subsequently confirmed by my own expert advisers and, last July, the Government was therefore prepared to permit INPC to confer preferred bidder status on that company.

That does not seem like full transparency in an open market and an open auction. There has been some discussion in recent times in other fora about the need for openness and transparency when something is being sold and the danger of it being sold to the only bidder. I imagine the Minister has a satisfactory explanation for that and I would be very happy to hear it.

I was in Prague last week visiting food stores and was surprised how in such a short period of nine years the retail food business in the Czech Republic had been taken over by foreign companies to such a huge extent. Therefore, I was interested to read the letter from Tedcastles Oil Products which referred to four multinational companies holding 74% of the market. I was delighted there are seven other companies also in business here, and I think that situation is fine. A word which often crops up is oligopoly, a word I love to drop in a conversation, which implies power being in a small number of hands. If possible we should ensure competition continues. I know this concern was expressed by Tedcastle Oil Products. We must avoid Tosco exploiting its position in the future and perhaps the Minister will address this matter. The real benefit is competition and its encouragement. In the past the Minister and I have talked about this, particularly as regards telecommunications where the job of the regulator is not just to ensure competition but to encourage it, which is in the national interest.

The Minister referred to a query from the European Commission about the sale and I think said the answer would be given in the next week or so. Perhaps she will refer again to this as I would like my mind to be put at rest on it. The EU Commission is seeking information about certain aspects of the proposed transaction.

Senator Norris talked about the possibility of finding oil off the coast. Is there anything in the deal which gives future promises in any way? When somebody sells a business they promise not to go back into the business or into competition within a period of time. Is there anything in the deal which says the State has no intention of either allowing or encouraging somebody else compete with the purchaser or that the State will never again compete in this area? I do not believe the State should be involved in this business – in general, competition is much better. I doubt if there is an intention on the part of the State to become involved in the business again, but can the Minister assure us that no promises were made regarding the future and that Tosco has not been given a guarantee of which we are unaware?

It seems the task given by the Minister to INPC has been grasped by those in authority and that they have come up with what seems a good sale. I compliment the Minister and her officials on their success.

I welcome the Minister to the House. To a large extent I welcome the legislation. It is not normal for the Labour benches to welcome legislation which has the intent of privatising a sector which is in State control, but many of us have recognised that the situation in relation to Whiddy and Whitegate has been quite precarious for a considerable period and that the entire operation is fragile in that it almost operates on yearly basis. A certain degree of stability and continuity is required for the industry and for workers in terms of career prospects and working conditions. In that context the offer outlined by the Minister appears on the surface to be quite generous. The State will get £100 million, though that is tempered by the fact the State must pick up the debts, which are in the region of £70 million. The State also has the benefit of existing creditors, so there will probably be a small margin of profit.

The rights of the workers are guaranteed. There is an ESOT and career prospects for the workers in the deal. I understand no redundancies are being proposed. The Minister might clarify these points in relation to the workforce particularly whether there will be full retention of the existing workforce.

Many speakers referred to the background of INPC and its establishment under Deputy O'Malley when he was Minister giving a State structure which would allow countries in the Arab world to make oil supplies available to us. Shortly afterwards the private sector found the project in Whitegate and Whiddy was non-commercial and offered the location and facilities to the State. At the time the State had little choice but to purchase them. In many ways it was the opposite to what is currently happening, with the private sector now taking over from the public sector. As I understand it, it was never a very profitable enterprise and probably operated only with the benefit of the mandatory regime, namely, the stipulation that 35% of all oil supplies had to be sourced through it, and the levy, which I presume continues, at petrol pumps relating to the refinery and which was built into the cost of fuel. When Tosco takes control, will there be a decrease in the cost of petrol and an ending of the levy?

I have some concerns. At least when we had a refinery in public ownership we had security of supplies. We had our own refinery and could at least say that if the worst came to the worst we could refine and supply our own oil, which may not be guaranteed in the context of total privatisation of the industry. This must remain a consideration as there have been a number of oil crises and international conflicts. There is some concern as to how we can guarantee continuity of supplies. There has been much criticism of terminating our merchant navy in terms of a supply line with other countries and that we are cut off from what would be a much needed source of supply in times of crisis. What guarantees have we from Tosco that we can ensure a diversity and security of supply in future?

The Minister indicated we have a commitment that the refinery will remain in operation for 15 years, which is good. It means work can be planned and that those working in the refinery can look forward to a degree of stability, pension rights and a greater level of career continuity than at present.

I am concerned that there might be a down side. On the face of it, it seems to be all up side. Has anybody asked why Tosco is offering what, on the surface, is a very attractive deal with no down side? What is in it for Tosco? American and other multinationals involved in information technology, pharmaceuticals and so on have seen Ireland as a very handy launching ground for attacking the markets in Europe, and a very desirable one given the level of skills and education, the fact that its people speak English and its position as an island off the European mainland. What is it that makes Ireland attractive to Tosco? In terms of modernisation, the existing refinery is very far down the line, being in need of very considerable upgrading to make it commercially competitive. That is not to downgrade it or say anything that might damage the deal which is, no doubt, far advanced at this stage. What reason has Tosco given for its interest in this project and why is it able to give the guarantees it has to preserve existing employment for 15 years and, on top of that, a considerable sum of money to acquire the refinery?

Certain concerns were expressed. For example, is there a possibility that an attempt will be made to eliminate competition and establish a monopoly in the Irish market and that smaller operators such as Tedcastles will lose in terms of price structure? Is there a larger picture that shows the negative side? Does the Minister have concerns in that respect.

On the plus side, it seems an attractive offer. I would normally express concern about the selling off of State assets. However, on this occasion we are dealing with a business we came into by accident in the first instance and not something that has been there since the foundation of the State. The industry has been in existence for approximately 20 years and there seems to be no major reason the State should continue to play a major role in it. Once questions of security of supply and the possible elimination of competition are dealt with, taking into consideration that the workforce seems very satisfied with the sale, it is difficult to find objections to it. I wish the Minister well with the legislation.

I welcome and support the legislation which moves matters on, and I agree with many of the points made by Senator Costello. I am appreciative of the fact that the position of the employees has been well regarded in this move forward. That provides a good blueprint for the way employees in companies should be dealt with. It should go on the record that this has the support of the employees, a group who have had an uncertain future in terms of career expectations and possibilities over the past 20 years. This will give them some security in the future. In turn, there will be a responsibility on those employees, when they become significant shareholders in the company, to consider the needs of the community in Ireland because there is a strategic issue that needs to be very carefully examined.

The INPC was established in 1979 to ensure strategically that the State had a supply of oil at a time when the oil producing companies were providing certain amounts on a state by state basis. The difficulty – the Minister referred to the European issue – is that it strikes one on first reading as the possible creation of a new monopoly. Is this the creation of a set of circumstances that could squeeze out the smaller operators within oil distribution? Senator Costello referred to Tedcastles which has expressed concern about its security in the future.

I am concerned on a number of levels, first, on the basis of the company itself, second, on the basis of the strategic and tactical importance of having smaller operators as well so that we will not be always at the mercy of the larger oil companies and, third, on the basis of the impact it will have on consumers, particularly in places where they currently receive a distribution from the smaller oil companies. I am concerned that the major buyers, such as Shell, Texaco and others, all of which get supplies from the INPC, might put a squeeze on the supplier and do a deal in terms of quantities of scale which would allow them to purchase at prices far more advantageous than the smaller operators and thereby squeeze out the smaller operators. I am aware that business is business, and this is a move towards market forces. I recognise that and I am not proposing an alternative at this point. However, I am worried that if the smaller groups are squeezed out there will be a loss at the end of the day.

In the past two years there has been worldwide interest in the price of oil. We have seen the price of a barrel of crude oil go from almost $40 dollars a barrel down to almost $20 dollars a barrel and back up to the high 20s. This has an immediate impact on inflation here in terms of fuel, transport and heating prices. We would experience real difficulty if smaller operators were squeezed out by larger operators, consequently allowing larger operators to operate a cartel which would lead to increased prices of fuel products and a consequent significant impact on inflation. I cannot recall off-hand the extent of the influence of fuel prices on inflation, but it is substantial and could, therefore, impact negatively on the State's development.

We came from a situation in the late 1970s in which fuel oil prices had a disastrous impact on the development of the State. This led to the establishment of the INPC which has been operating for the past 20 years or so. In making the move we are making today, we need to be certain that it does not lead to difficulties in the future. I have no doubt that this can be done through some type of consumer watchdog or by way of anti-competitive monopolies or cartel legislation. I expect the Minister to put that on the record when she is replying.

We should be aware that the large multinational oil companies have no commitment to this country. Whatever one might say about the smaller companies like Estuary and Tedcastles, they are at least completely rooted and involved in this country. We need to be aware of their concerns and of the need to allow them to operate freely without hindrance in a market of free competition. If it is going to be open to market forces, let it not be a market that is compromised or perverted by the over-influence of the large companies.

I would like to set out a worst case scenario. Were INPC to close down or to be squeezed by the larger companies, the larger companies can always get their supplies from overseas stations, including that in south Wales and other places. They would not necessarily be at the same disadvantage. That is a concern I have and which I am sure has been well considered by the Minister's Department and many other groups. Perhaps the Minister will respond to that. I agree this is a progressive move which is necessary to develop. This aspect of the industry is too small in Ireland. It is not in the national interest, to coin a phrase, for us to be involved in this industry at the moment. This legislation is welcome and I support it.

I thank the Seanad and the Members. Six Senators contributed and, as always, the level and range of debate and the knowledge of the subject were very comprehensive and interesting. Senator O'Dowd, the main Opposition spokesperson, and Senators Liam Fitzgerald, Norris, Quinn, Costello and O'Toole contributed. Each in their own way put forward many points. The debate was very stimulating and I do not want to speak against the other House, my House, but the issues got a very real airing here. I will go through them now and will then seek to address the queries raised by the Senators.

I thank Senator O'Dowd, who welcomed the Bill, and all Senators for their welcome to the House. Senators will say I am plámásing them but coming to work this morning, I looked forward to coming to the Seanad and to the debate. I have said it before, and Senator Tom Fitzgerald has said it also, those who have spent time in the Seanad always feel that way as distinct from those who have not been in this House.

Senator O'Dowd said he was prepared to complete the Bill in this session and I thank him for that. He brought up the concerns of Tedcastles, as did most of the speakers. I recognise that the companies have every right to put forward their view. That is, in fact, an interchange of democracy. The same happened in the Dáil. I will deal with the Tedcastles issue and the smaller companies, including TOP which has made the most impact.

Senators O'Dowd, O'Toole and Quinn asked about the European Commission inquiry. The European Commission made what we would regard as a standard inquiry about matters of State aid. The Department would regard it as an inquiry of a routine nature. We are required to send back the responses by 3 July, but we have been in contact with it orally. We do not anticipate any consequences which would be adverse to the legislation and the sale. Senator O'Dowd asked whether European companies bid. When we asked the chairman to look in the marketplace, 31 companies were approached or approached INPC. In the end, the number narrowed until the chairman and the board were of the opinion that the Tosco bid was the one most likely. Tosco's European headquarters will be in Dublin.

Senator Costello asked about the selection process and how we arrived at Tosco. The Department engaged Arthur Andersen to conduct the selection process. The Tosco bid represented the best way forward for the company. Senator Costello also raised the company's environmental record and said he thought it was in the middle range. I should address that environmental inquiry because each of the six Members who spoke raised it. Any company that operates here operates under the law of this land in regard to the EPA and the HSA, all of which are welcome developments that came about as a result of directives from Europe. They have had major benefits for employees. There was an accident at one of Tosco's plants in California in 1997 or 1998 which resulted in four deaths. I would prefer if we were open about this. We knew about it and it was mentioned in the Dáil. There was considerable strengthening of its environmental and safety concerns after that. That is what I alluded to when I said it had learned its lesson. A senior vice president of Tosco is in charge of environmental and safety issues. It now seeks to adhere to the DuPont criteria in regard to health and safety which are regarded throughout the world as of prime excellence. When Tosco comes here, it will adhere to EPA and HSA requirements. The same INPC people will operate the plant and will be in charge of health and safety. INPC has an excellent record in that regard.

I thank Senator Liam Fitzgerald for his positive response. He spoke about NORA and the very important role it will play. NORA will continue as a semi-State, free standing agency, or perhaps it will fall under the aegis of an energy agency. We are not quite sure yet, but we are sure that we are keeping it, that it will be a semi-State body and that it will have responsibility for strategic stocks about which many Senators spoke and which would be needed.

Senator Liam Fitzgerald also engaged in a very positive discussion on the ESOP and the fact 80% of employees had voted in favour of it. Senator Norris raised the Tedcastles issue, to which I will refer, and its reliance on Whitegate. He asked if INPC would vanish. There will be a period of winding down. I anticipate that, for about one year, various matters will have to be attended to in the company. The decision has been taken to retain NORA, so we will have INPC-Tosco and NORA with its reserves. The INPC will continue in operation while consequential issues remain to be addressed. I join in Senator Norris's praise of the current chief executive officer.

Senator Norris asked whether we would be at a disadvantage if oil were discovered and we did not have an oil refinery. I am reminded of the old story in Celtic mythology about Hybreasal, the isle of the blessed, which was supposed to be surrounded by oil. We will have a refinery in Tosco-INPC which has given a 15 year guarantee. The Senator spoke about the muddy track record which we openly acknowledge, although the use of the term "muddy" may be somewhat severe. The accident which occurred certainly served as a warning. As a result of the measures it recently introduced, Tosco has moved up a comparative table of environmental and health and safety adherents among US oil companies. The company is now almost at the top of the table.

Senator Norris asked about the pier which is a derelict area. There is no compulsion on Tosco to take responsibility for that.

Perhaps it could be turned into a marina.

Yes, we could consider a development such as the Giant's Causeway.

Senator Quinn wholeheartedly approves of the commercial mandate. He spoke about the lack of transparency which exists. Commercial confidentiality requires that a small number of matters cannot be publicly aired prior to the deal's con clusion. However, we will then open a data room in the Department where all relevant material will be open to perusal.

In regard to competition, the Senator asked whether Tosco would exploit its position. This links into the question about Tedcastles and the small operators which I will address in detail later. The euro query is a routine query to which we will respond in detail and to which we do not anticipate any adverse reaction.

Senator Costello recognised the need for stability in this operation. The mandatory regime was previously renewed on a year-on-year basis. Although I do not say it with any sense of rancour, the previous Government made a formal Cabinet decision to remove the mandatory regime, although it reneged on that within three months. A company could not be expected to operate or expand in those circumstances. I do not know how the INPC sustained its confidence and work standards and planned its work year on year, not knowing what fate would befall it.

Senator Costello welcomed the provisions of the ESOP and asked about the number of employees and conditions of employment such as pension rights. The work conditions of the 225 employees are guaranteed under the new arrangement.

The Senator asked whether we could expect to see a reduction in petrol costs. That was one of the main questions I asked as one would like to see benefits accruing to the consumers. When operations commence under the new arrangement, I intend to ask Carmel Foley, the Director of Consumer Affairs, to monitor this area. Experience shows that expected reductions do not always materialise unless they are followed up.

It struck me as I listened to Senator Costello that I asked the same questions he posed today one year ago when this process commenced. He asked what is the down side. I recall thinking that there must be a down side to this arrangement and I sought to discover if it existed. I am convinced this is a good commercial deal. If there is any down side, it is that this is a new arrangement. The propped-up manner in which the INPC operated resulted in a great deal of uncertainty. A future has now been mapped out for a minimum period of 15 years and the company has indicated its intention to expand further. Employees will now have work stability and will be able to avail of career development opportunities. Change brings its own concerns but, having studied this proposal in detail, the positives far outweigh the negatives.

Like Senator Costello, I also asked what was Tosco's reason for locating in Ireland. I wondered why such a big US company wanted a base here. The primary reason was that the company sought a foothold in Europe. Tosco's top man is a Mr. Tom O'Malley, who visits Ireland four times a year to play golf in Waterford. We can be assured that he will not be some absent mogul. The com pany was anxious to establish a foothold in a country which it found compatible.

Senator O'Toole welcomed the provisions in regard to employees' rights, the strategic interest in Ireland and the retention of NORA, formerly an INPC subsidiary, which will now operate as a separate semi-State agency. The Senator spoke about the need for a continued supply in this sector.

All speakers referred to Tedcastles and the smaller companies. Senator O'Toole highlighted the danger of the bigger companies coming together to form a cartel, leaving the smaller companies on the fringes. Were that to happen, the matter would immediately be referred to the Competition Authority which would move very swiftly to counter any such arrangements. Tosco is coming to Ireland to operate on a commercial basis and to do business with anybody who wishes. It would not be in its interest to rule out dealing with smaller companies.

A Senator asked what would happen in the case of an emergency. The State has special powers for dealing with emergencies regardless of the ownership of the refinery. Tosco spoke on that. It wanted to come into Europe and to have a base in a compatible country to operate its business.

We spoke about the disadvantage of not having a State refinery if we were to strike oil. The pier has been derelict since the 1979 disaster and there are no plans to do anything with it. No strictures regarding that have been laid down by the EPA from a safety point of view. The strategic process has been addressed. A standard query from the EU has been dealt with.

Senator O'Toole raised the possible takeover of the refinery by a foreign company posing a danger to competition. Tosco has said it will keep the refinery open. That issue is an obvious one that would be addressed in a chamber such as this whose Members have a vocational interest, the knowledge and depth of interest to address such an issue. I am content that the Competition Authority would not allow such a situation to develop and would move swiftly if there were any move towards establishing such a cartel.

I thank all the Senators who contributed to this worthwhile debate. I found it stimulating and interesting as I am sure all of us did. I thank the Members for their welcome and support of the Bill.

Question put and agreed to.

When it is proposed to take Committee Stage?

May I change the Order of Business and take Committee and Remaining Stages of this Bill now with the agreement of the House? I thank Members sincerely in advance for doing this, as it will facilitate all sides of the House to complete more work before the summer recess.

Agreed to take Committee Stage now.

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