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Seanad Éireann debate -
Wednesday, 26 Nov 2003

Vol. 174 No. 18

Overseas Development Aid: Motion.

I move:

That Seanad Éireann:

notes a major review of the Government's development co-operation programme has just been completed by the OECD's Development Assistance Committee, DAC;

welcomes the OECD's endorsement of the Government's aid programme and recognises that the study's findings published on 20 November, constitute a strong endorsement of the programme and its underlying objectives by the internationally recognised arbiter of quality and standards in overseas development assistance;

congratulates the Government on the outcome of this major international review of our development co-operation programme which highlights that a very positive judgment has been passed by Ireland's peers on our activities in the field of development co-operation;

acknowledges that the aid programme is making a profound difference to the lives of some of the poorest people on earth and that Ireland has been praised by the international donor community for the quality, focus and effectiveness of its development co-operation activities;

commends the Government for the commitment it has shown in increasing Ireland's ODA resources towards the UN target of 0.7% of GNP and the example we have set internationally;

fully support the efforts of the Government to ensure wise investment of Irish taxpayers' money and to attain the highest international standards in terms of quality and impact in the developing world;

emphasises the importance of the Irish Government continuing through its aid programme to transform the lives of very many extremely poor and vulnerable people, lifting them out of poverty and offering them hope and support;

notes that this month €6.7 million in assistance was announced in response to natural and man-made disasters in some of the world's poorest countries; and

maintains we can be justly proud of what is being achieved through the Development Cooperation Ireland programme on behalf of the Irish people.

I welcome the Minister of State at the Department of Foreign Affairs, Deputy Tom Kitt, to the House. I am sure all sides will join me in complimenting him on the manner in which he has carried out his portfolio, specifically in the area of overseas development aid. In light of the Estimates published last week, we have maintained our contribution at a similar level of GNP as last year. I thought the Minister of State was unusually brave in stating publicly that the ambition of reaching 0.7% of GNP by 2007 may not now be achievable. I hope that in injecting a note of realism into the budget, he would agree that it should still be the main aspiration of this Administration to reach that figure.

Ireland is proud of its role in the area of over seas development aid. That role is traditional and is embedded in our psyche. It started with our missionaries going out to the African countries, in particular, building up much needed infrastructure and educating those among whom they moved. The State has taken on that role admirably. This is not a political issue with a capital "P", but one that finds universal support. We may quibble and criticise the level of support and, in some instances, the manner in which it is allocated. However, the general principle that Ireland has a proud record in this area and that it should strive to maintain that record is accepted by all sides.

I am particularly pleased that the report of the OECD's Development Assistance Committee published last week noted that in the past decade, Ireland's contribution to ODA has increased dramatically to 0.4% of its gross national income compared to a figure of some €70 million or .16% of gross national income in 1992. Ireland channels half of its ODA to the least developed countries. This is the largest share among the 22 member countries in the Development Assistance Committee and contributes to achieving the millennium development goals. It might be salutary to remind the House that those seven programme countries are Ethiopia, Uganda, Tanzania, Zambia, Mozambique, Lesotho, and Timor Leste, formerly East Timor, with which Ireland has had a strong relationship both prior to and subsequent to independence.

I am sure the Minister of State will refer to Ireland's role in providing ODA to Uganda and the political implications of the decision taken last July to redirect some €10 million of the €30 million to non-governmental channels, which has put Uganda at the top of the list of ODA assistance from Ireland, and the subsequent political flurry of activity from that country with the visit of various Ministers whom I and other members of the Joint Committee on Foreign and Affairs met, as did the Minister, at the end of August. This culminated in the visit of Prime Minister Museveni some weeks ago who met with the Minister of State, Deputy Kitt, and indulged in what might be described as a charm offensive to ensure the allegations made, primarily, although not exclusively, by John O'Shea of GOAL would be addressed. I am not sure the Ugandan Prime Minister or the Ministers in his cabinet adequately addressed them to the point where all of us were fully satisfied. The Minister may also have some lingering reservations about the role of Uganda in its near neighbour country, the Democratic Republic of Congo, and of its military support for armies operating in that area acting as a proxy for Uganda. I am sure he will also be referring to that because Uganda tops the list in terms of the amount of ODA it receives from Ireland.

We have a strong tradition of helping the poor and the dispossessed and the Government made a commitment in 2001 of at least $30 million annually, through Development Cooperation Ireland, to fight HIV-AIDS by way of multilateral, global, regional, national and community efforts. In this context, the Minister of State and the Minister stated that one priority of the Irish Presidency would be to address the AIDS pandemic not only in Africa but also in the western Balkans and associated countries.

It is interesting that the vast majority of people in Ireland support development efforts although I am sure the Minister of State will have something to say about a recent survey which showed most Irish people are not very clear about what we do in this area, how we do it and what countries benefit. There is obviously a need for better marketing of Ireland's undoubtedly distinguished role in this area to ensure that we continue to receive the support of the people as we continue to increase our ODA in years to come.

I agree with the Development Assistance Committee recommendation that Ireland should now plan how it will manage and implement a €1 billion programme. This is what the figure will be if, as I hope, our ODA will be 0.7% of GDP by 2007. Further recommendations of the committee include focusing on the least developed countries, especially those in eastern Africa where our aid is concentrated; supporting selected multilateral agencies; continuing to respond to the HIV-AIDS crisis, which the Minister of State will focus on during the Presidency; and promoting Ireland's forward looking debt strategy. The committee also recommended that Ireland should reintroduce a multi-annual agreement on ODA allocations and further increase Development Cooperation Ireland's staff. The Minister of State should also note the recommendation that there should be more opportunities for a strong development focus in career patterns in the Department of Foreign Affairs, specifically in terms of ODA. He may have some comments on that area.

I have no doubt that the Minister of State and other contributors will refer to the committee's report. I have outlined the good news, but the bad news concerns the rankings that appeared in Foreign Policy magazine, published in May-June 2003. It teamed up with the Center for Global Development to create the first annual CGD-FP commitment to development index, which grades 21 rich nations on whether their aid, trade, migration, investment, peacekeeping and environmental policies help or hurt poor nations. Ireland did not fare too well in the survey despite the fact that we have been increasing our budget over the past ten years. Ireland is in the bottom 25%, a disappointing joint 15th out of a total of 21.

As I stated, the CGD-FP commitment to development index rates development aid under various categories rather than just focusing on overall financial allocations. For example, under "peacekeeping", we rank only 9th out of 21, despite our proud record in this area. Our score was less than half that of Greece. Admittedly, this is because Greece sent some 2,000 troops to the Balkans, which was way in excess of what it would have been expected to send. If the scoring is to be conducted purely on the basis of numbers, as it was, it is a little unfair to Ireland considering the size of its Defence Forces and the number of personnel we are able to contribute. There was a suggestion that under-investment in terms of our Defence Forces may hurt us.

The trade score assesses the barriers imposed on goods from developing countries. We rank joint 17th in this category, ahead only of Japan, Switzerland and Norway, none of which is part of a major trading bloc. Has this anything to do with recent goings on in Cancun at the WTO and the fact – I say this with considerable justification – that Ireland will protect its small farmers in the transition period relating to the reform of the CAP? I compliment the Minister of State on stating in public in Cancun that he believed Ireland's moral obligation was to look after the welfare of the developing countries in the area of trade, free up trade barriers and reduce tariffs while at the same time acknowledging the need to protect small farmers in Ireland. I compliment him on his showing to the rest of the world that Ireland should not be seen to be grouped with those nations that would be prepared to sacrifice reductions in trade barriers for their own domestic reasons.

The rankings in respect of the environment make sad reading. The CDI ranks each country's commitment to the environment in terms of the damage it causes to the global community and its commitment to international environmental initiatives. Sadly, Ireland comes second last, next only to the United States. We all know the position of President Bush's Administration on the Kyoto Protocol and international environmental initiatives, in respect of which it is pursuing a particular agenda with which most of us violently and vociferously disagree. Again, one has to look at how the rankings are produced. Will the Minister of State address this point? It is important, in the wider context of Ireland's continuing role in providing overseas development aid, that we take account of these other issues and realise it is not simply a matter of helping poorly developed countries by channelling aid into, for example, infrastructure or the types of activities in which we are very proudly involved in the priority countries.

I am glad there is recognition of countries other than the seven priority countries in Africa and that the Minister is considering an initiative in the Balkans, particularly in respect of AIDS. I hope he will also consider the wider economic difficulties particularly in Kosovo, Albania and many of the countries along the Black Sea. These difficulties could have a direct impact on us, particularly in the context of enlargement. Does the Minister of State know if there will be any widening of the priority country programme or will he concentrate exclusively on those countries that have been named? I accept that the development com mittee said the Government should focus on those countries and not take on more than it can cope with, but I raise the issue in the context of enlargement. If we continue to allow a deepening economic deprivation in certain Balkan countries, it will have a most serious impact on us in terms of illegal immigrants coming across our borders and of economic migrants. Is it not better to do in that region of Europe on our doorstep what we are attempting to do, and doing successfully, in the African countries?

I commend the motion and I look forward to hearing the Minister of State's reply. We are very proud of him. He has brought to his brief not only a breadth of vision and expertise, but also a very deep moral commitment to helping the less well-off in the world.

I second the motion and I too look forward to the Minister's speech. A sum of €399 million has been allocated for international co-operation under our aid budget for 2004. This represents the highest allocation ever and an increase of €25 million over that for 2003. There have been increases every year since 1997, when the allocation was just €117 million, but they have been significantly more substantial in recent years. The allocation has more than doubled since 2000.

This year's increased allocation will enable the Government to maintain official development assistance at 0.4% of GNP. In percentage terms, Ireland is now the seventh largest donor in the world and its average is well above that of the EU, which is 0.33%. When contributions from other Departments are factored in, total official development assistance next year should amount to some €480 million, the equivalent of 0.41% of GNP. This is a very substantial increase at a time when there are constraints on spending in so many Departments and it shows our continuing commitment to meeting the needs of the poorest of the poor in the developing world. More importantly, the quality of the Irish programme has been lauded internationally. The findings of the OECD's Development Assistance Committee, published on 20 November last, constitute a strong endorsement of the Government's development co-operation programme and its underlying objectives by this internationally recognised arbiter of quality and standards in overseas development assistance. The Minister for Foreign Affairs said: "I warmly welcome the outcome of this major international review of our development co-operation programme. A very positive judgment has been passed by Ireland's peers on our activities in the field of development co-operation." He added: "This is a tribute to the vision and dedication of the Minister of State Tom Kitt, TD and the team he leads."

Anybody looking at the Minister of State, Deputy Kitt's record over recent years can see that he is suited to his office. He has a particular interest in this field, to which he has applied himself diligently, and several Intergovernmental Conferences and other groups have praised his work. This is not flattery; it is praise for work accomplished. When people do good work, they should be acknowledged. In this instance the Minister of State, Deputy Kitt, works extremely hard, taking a particular interest in his brief, and he should be lauded.

The OECD endorsement is a tribute to the Government for the commitment it has shown to increasing Ireland's overseas development assistance resources towards the UN target of 0.7% GNP. With wise investment of Irish taxpayer's money, the Government has attained the highest international standards in terms of quality and impact in the developing world. Our development co-operation programme commands huge international respect, as this OECD peer review testifies. Through our programme we are, as Senator Mooney said, transforming the lives of many extremely poor and vulnerable people, lifting them out of poverty and offering them hope and support. We can be justly proud of what Development Cooperation Ireland is achieving on our behalf.

No matter how poor we think we are, we will never be satisfied with the amount of aid that we contribute because we are immensely rich compared to the poorest of the poor. Parts of the world are riven with disease, particularly AIDS which is spreading at the rate of wildfire, and we must at all times give everything we can to assisting other people who are less well off than us. We are probably doing the best we can. In our commitment to poverty reduction, we channel half of our overseas development assistance to least developed countries. This is the largest share among the 22 member countries in the OECD's Development Assistance Committee and contributes to achieving the millennium development goals. We maintain a long-standing focus on health and education and trying to combat the AIDS pandemic. A commitment in 2001 of at least $30 million annually to fight HIV and AIDS through multilateral, global, regional, national and community efforts supports Development Cooperation Ireland's mainstreaming of HIV and AIDS issues throughout the programme.

The interesting feature of aid here, as has been seen many times when there were calls for help, is that most people support the giving of aid. We could almost say that if we raised the level a little, it would receive even more support. The public has never protested at giving more money to this area. When the Live Aid concert took place and whenever there was a call for help, the Irish people always responded with great generosity. I do not wish to criticise the Government which is doing a very good job, as is the Minister of State, but if we push the boat out on this issue, there will be no negative reaction. Many junior Ministers tend to look for a great deal of money for their Departments without much hope of success, but the Minister of State, Deputy Kitt, would find very little resistance. If he pushes the door, it will open for him. He does that most of the time.

It is important that we build up public awareness in this regard. Given the number of agencies seeking help, including Concern and Goal, we must have a public awareness initiative to say where and how money is spent and where it goes and so on. Perhaps some of it is dissipated. I have occasionally heard that moneys collected do not always arrive at their destination. Some goes in administrative costs and so on. Nevertheless, we are doing as well as we can under the circumstances, but we cannot rest on our laurels. We can always do better. I believe that we have a Minister of State who will continue to move the programme forward as best he can.

I move amendment No. 1:

To delete all words after "That" and substitute the following:

"Seanad Éireann:

– recognising the tremendous success of Ireland's Overseas Development Aid Programme;

– noting the promise made by the Taoiseach to increase ODA to 0.7% of GNP by 2007;

– condemns the Government for the failure to make any progress towards this target."

I welcome the Minister of State. We all agree that he is doing a great job but he is not receiving the backing of the full Government. It is a fair reflection of the chaos in Fianna Fáil that it picks this item to show its strengths when all it is doing is stabilising a budget and reneging on a promise. That is the reality. In a few months we will assume the Presidency of the European Union and we will have a great opportunity to lead by example. The Taoiseach, as President of the European Union, could put pressure on other EU and non-EU countries, but instead we seem to be faltering or rowing back on a very clear commitment he gave on two occasions.

At the Millennium Summit in 2000, and recently at the UN General Assembly, he said that Ireland would move towards the figure of 0.7% of GNP in its funding for official development assistance. However, his actions seem to indicate differently because instead of increasing the rate as has been the case recently, we have stalled on last year's figure at 0.41% and we are not advancing towards 0.7%. Even the OECD is openly questioning the Government's commitment, asking how can it reach the target of 0.7% by stalling this year. Trócaire and other agencies have made it very clear that they feel the figure of 0.41% is very worrying. They would prefer that we move up to 0.48% in 2004, followed by 0.55% in 2005 and 0.62% in 2006, arriving at 0.7% in 2007. Instead we remain as we were last year without even an increase to allow for inflation. That is remarkable.

The Fine Gael amendment focuses on the Taoiseach, his credibility and his ability to deliver on promises he made. We are very clear about our backing for the Government's action to date in this area, but we feel the level of funding should be increased and we should be working towards the figure of 0.7%. Like the various aid agencies, we are extremely worried when we see a Government putting the squeeze on funding for overseas development agencies as soon as there is an economic slowdown. It is amazing to see this Government's priorities when the Minister for Finance and the Minister for Agriculture and Food can, in the space of two weeks, approve €14 million for an equestrian centre, with very little consultation, yet for major projects, whether school buildings, a radiotherapy unit for the south east or in this case overseas development agency work, there is a problem with funding.

Fine Gael is very proud of the record of the overseas development aid programmes and of the people involved in them, who have done Trojan work. We are proud of our record abroad in putting money into capital projects and ensuring that long-term problems are eradicated. As Senator Leyden noted, we have a fantastic record.

However, we are very sceptical of the Government and its plans to deliver. We call on the Minister of State and the Fianna Fáil Members of the House to accept the Fine Gael amendment and honour the commitment given by the Taoiseach on two occasions that the Government is working towards 0.7% of GNP by 2007. The Government should, therefore, increase this year's funding to approximately 0.48%. That can still be done and we urge the Government to do it. It would restore the public's confidence in the Government and give the Minister of State the much-needed allocation which he can ensure will be spent.

I approve of the recent decision to suspend ODA funding for the Ugandan Government. That was correct. The President of Uganda has a few questions to answer. It is important that taxpayers' money does not go to a corrupt regime.

This amendment is very simple. It reminds the Government of the promise it made and on which it now appears to be reneging, or faltering. We urge the Fianna Fáil Members of the House to accept the amendment so that the funding can be increased and we can reach the figure of 0.7% of GNP by 2007, as promised.

I second the amendment and I welcome the Minister of State.

When I think of the old phrase "charity begins at home", I recognise that it has little meaning for the Government at home or abroad. We see again the hallmark of the Government, its broken promises, of which we have had a series since the general election of May 2002. The people were forced to swallow the bitter pill of a series of cutbacks which will affect the weakest and most vulnerable here at home, while there is evidence that the funding cutbacks are also affecting underdeveloped countries.

It is not surprising that there is no possible way the Government will reach the target referred to by Senator Browne of giving 0.7% of gross national product per annum in overseas aid. Having committed to reach this figure by 2007, the Government is now having to backtrack and admit that our overseas development aid contribution will remain at 0.41% of GNP.

Currently, the figure indicates that Ireland gives 41 cents in every €100 of gross national income to overseas aid. With the Taoiseach repeatedly promising that aid spending will reach 70 cent in every €100 by 2007, a major rethink on allocation would need to be effected.

In what could be said to be the shedding of crocodile tears, the Taoiseach described the decline in global overseas development aid over the last decade as "shameful, indefensible and inconsistent". However, the Taoiseach's own record in relation to his own promises seems at odds with these emotional words. Actions save lives both at home and abroad while broken promises threaten the most vulnerable in Ireland and abroad.

Two months after being re-elected in May last year, the Government cut overseas development aid by a staggering €32 million, an early indication of cuts and broken promises that have had such far-reaching effects on our disillusioned electorate. Every day we hear of people fed up and disappointed. In particular, we hear charitable organisations such as Focus Ireland, when it considers the numbers of homeless, Threshold and several other organisations strongly criticising the Government for its broken promises and the lies told in the run up to the last general election. They were told that everything was rosy in the Department of Finance and in the economy.

Globally, between 1990 and 2000, overseas development aid fell steadily from 0.33% of donor country GNP to 0.22%. This decline is at odds with the commitment to achieve the agreed target of 0.7% of developed countries' GNP to be transferred as overseas development aid. It has serious consequences for the least developed countries, who are dependent on such aid which provides nearly 90% of their long-term capital inflows. This will have very serious repercussions in those countries which need this funding. It is shameful for the Government to carry on in this way, reducing aid to Third World countries. What it is doing is evident and people have contacted me on this matter.

For Ireland, the main priority now in relation to overseas development aid is an examination of the credibility of the Government's commitment to achieving 0.7% by 2007 and the feasibility of achieving this target. In this regard, it is imperative that the Government makes adequate and consistent budgetary provision for a steady increase in the overseas development aid-GNP ratio. OECD officials have expressed the view that Ireland's aid programme was being hindered by a failure to set out programmed funding increases into the future. Ireland is seen as faltering in its progress towards reaching the UN target for overseas aid spending for 2007.

For a country that is ranked by the latest UN report as second last among developed countries in terms of poverty and inequality, as Senator Mooney noted, Ireland also needs dramatic changes to alter its own dismal national profile. The UN report emphasised the need for robust Government action in tackling persistent poverty and inequalities. The report states that for yet another year, Ireland has the greatest disparity of incomes in Europe and is a deeply unequal society. Along with its criticisms of the overseas aid issue, it points the finger of blame towards the Government which it says must not shirk from tackling poverty, social exclusion and deprivation at home.

Fr. Peter McVerry puts it somewhat more forcefully when he says that the poor in Ireland have been shown two fingers by the Government through its recently announced cutbacks in social welfare supports. He went on to say that the Estimates were the most disgusting thing he had seen for many years. These sentiments are very much shared by the people. Apart from their generous support for overseas aid, over three quarters of them believe that whatever the cost, housing should be provided for the homeless and in a statistic that augurs ill for the Government in the next general election, 63% believe that the housing crisis is caused by Government inaction. The programme, Homelessness, an Integrated Strategy, was launched to great fanfare in May 2002. It set out a comprehensive approach to solving the problem, which was of the Government's own making, by the end of this year. The most recent figures from the Department of the Environment, Heritage and Local Government indicate, however, that homelessness has increased nationally by 7% from 5,234 in 1999 to 5,581 in 2002. There are 48,000 households – 140,000 people – on housing waiting lists.

The Government is a disgrace and I make no apology for saying this because the electorate is fed up. Its record at home and abroad is one of division between the haves and the have nots, as evidenced by the Minister for Finance's announcement of an event centre in his constituency that cost €15 million when there is poverty in our streets. The Government squandered the riches brought about by economic success and we are left to pick up the pieces. I appeal to the Minister of State to look after the less well-off in society here and abroad.

I welcome the Minister of State and endorse the Government motion on the review of the overseas development aid programme. I love good politics but, listening to the Opposition, I have never come across such negative thinking.

The situation was brought about by the series of broken promises on the part of the Government. Fianna Fáil should be ashamed to table a motion of this kind in the Seanad.

I did not interrupt the Senator so he should have the grace to listen to me for once.

Listening to hypocrisy disgusts me and that is what we are hearing from the Senator.

The Senator is out of order. I do not know why he feels so threatened when I stand up.

It is a gender thing, Senator Bannon is not comfortable around powerful women.

An Leas-Chathaoirleach

The Senator is inviting trouble and must address her remarks through the Chair.

In 1997, a sum of £99 million was allocated to overseas development. This year €450 million was allocated and the figure for next year is €480 million. What are we talking about? It is ridiculous to say we are not doing anything and we have three more years to reach our target.

Not necessarily.

The way Fianna Fáil was blaming the Progressive Democrats today, it does not look like it.

Does the Taoiseach have three more years?

We will not do this overnight and I am glad to see the Minister of State, Deputy Tom Kitt, here because there is no better person for the job. He has been monitoring the programme, overseeing how the money is spent and ensuring that it has been used to help orphanages, medical centres and schools in the poorest regions in the world and to improve people's lives. To suggest that we are not trying or not looking after the poorest of the poor—

The Government is squandering the money.

Perhaps there is room for improvement but we might look at how the non-governmental organisations are doing their work and ask if the money has been spent properly. There can be a huge overlap in spending the money, an issue the Minister of State has addressed on many occasions.

There is no doubt, however, that we are making progress. Ireland has been praised by international donors for the quality, focus and effectiveness of its overseas development aid programme. We are good at planning and manag ing the programme but we must ask what shape it will take in the future.

I am pleased to be here to praise the Government and congratulate the Minister of State. We will hold the EU Presidency for six months from January and he will have the opportunity to address Heads of other member states, tell them how well we are doing and hold Ireland up as an example. This country has a tradition of concern for overseas aid. The Minister should keep up the good work and I look forward to hearing his reply.

I would like to discuss the parameters within which we view this issue. As an Independent Member, I am non-partisan and would like to encourage the Minister of State. He is a very good Minister, a very decent man, but like all Ministers he is fighting for a budget. This is an important one and I want him to carry back the message to the Government that he has the support of all sections of this House to reach the target of 0.7% of GNP. I have a different view from my Fianna Fáil colleagues about how that should be approached but we are united on the desirability of this goal.

The importance of the Minister of State's work is demonstrated by the report of the review group which sets out clearly that more than 1.2 billion people are struggling to survive and 24,000 people, the population of a good sized town in the midlands, are dying every day of hunger, approximately 75% of whom are children. That is what we are confronting and we should not play party politics with the issues.

The review group also adumbrated a series of very wise principles – effectiveness, value for money, transparency and accountability. It also indicates that it is good procedure to use non-governmental organisations and missionary groups.

I compliment the Minister of State on his initiative to form a public private partnership involving business and the energy of the financial community. It has a responsibility because it makes substantial profits and should be encouraged to contribute. I assume any money raised in this way, however, will not be counted towards the trend towards 0.7%.

It will not.

That is even better and I compliment the Minister of State on the idea.

I take a different view from the Government on certain issues, such as Uganda. I heard President Museveni make a surprisingly good case when he was interviewed on the radio recently but he was interviewed in a mealy-mouthed fashion and let away with murder. He sowed some doubts in my mind about my feeling that there should be clear restrictions on Government aid to Uganda, but then in the last few days his wife and daughter flew to Paris to allow his daughter to give birth there and he openly said that the health services were not good enough for his family. That is a disgrace and he should be ashamed to say such a thing and to spend $250,000 on a private aeroplane to take his wife and daughter to Paris.

This raises the question of why we should give money to someone like this. We know the family is involved in exploitation and about its involvement in the Democratic Republic of the Congo. It exports mineral resources and diamonds that do not even exist in Uganda so where do they come from? There is no question that there is corruption in Uganda.

Other countries, such as Denmark and Holland, impose restrictions and have criteria for accountability and standards in public life. We implemented such restrictions against Sudan even though we knew in 1997 that people were in difficulty. It is a shame, however, to think of Irish taxpayers' money being handed over to people like them to squander.

We have a good record in overseas development aid. When the current Government was elected six years ago, the overseas development aid budget was 0.31% of GNP and we were in tenth position in the league table. By 2002 we had overtaken France, Finland, Canada and Switzerland and we are seventh at 0.41%. That is certainly an honourable record but, unfortunately, it seems that we are now about to falter. It would be a pity if we were to lose our good position that has been steadily improving under various Governments. Also, the method of delivery and the efficiency of our aid is highly regarded. In terms of certain criteria, when compared to other donors, the level of tied aid in Ireland is 0% with the OECD average at 18%, the percentage allocated to the least developed countries by Ireland is 48% whereas the OECD average is only 22%. This aid does work. We have all heard heartrending stories from the coalface in countries like Liberia, Sudan and Ethiopia, about simple things like the digging of latrines undertaken under the supervision of Irish NGOs. These can have an enormous impact on the health and welfare of the people concerned.

Since 1960, we have noticed a tremendous improvement in terms of life expectancy increasing from 46 to 62 years. In underdeveloped countries the under-five mortality rate has been falling from 216 to 107 per thousand live births. There is a measurable, quantifiable result from the delivery of this aid, which is why it is a pity that it is stalled. I do not want to criticise the Minister of State; I know where his heart is in this programme. We should unite in this House to give him support in pushing as vigorously as possible to reach the outlined target. The Taoiseach said that we would reach 0.7% during the millennium, which was a good political photo opportunity. He said it again at the conference in Johannesburg a short time ago. He recommitted himself, but what is happening in the meantime? We are having a freeze, which represents a real problem for a number of reasons.

It is not only people on this side of the House and partisan politicians who are concerned. The OECD, which has no axe to grind in terms of the party political structures of this country, has also commented. It states that the committee was concerned that what Ireland has been able to achieve over recent years might be lost by a failure to reach the volume of aid targeted. These comments come from Mr. Hunter McGill of the OECD and Oisín Coghlan of Christian Aid has made very similar points. The Estimates represent a missed opportunity to make progress towards the target.

On the practical difficulties involved, even accepting that what the Taoiseach has said is correct and that the figures can be stalled only to make a sudden jump in the final year, this lacks credibility. I, for one, do not believe it. We will plead poverty again. We hear all these clichés about Ireland being the most generous country and that we give more per capita than most, and then we fail at this level. We cannot afford to fail. We need to give ourselves this position of moral leadership. We are coming into the leadership of the European Union, which is an opportunity to set an example.

I suggested there is something dangerous in this, even supposing that we were to accept what the Taoiseach said, that he would jump up the figures in the last year. There is an immense management challenge for the people administering this. If one starves an organisation of funds and suddenly dumps a load of money on it in the final year, one neglects that these processes should be allowed to be grown organically, allowing them to develop on a steady curve. Otherwise, one creates practical implementation difficulties for other people.

What a moral dereliction this represents, knowing what we do about the poverty that exists. I come back to what I said at the beginning, some 24,000 people a day die of starvation. They cannot wait. It is cruel to expect them to wait for a sudden jump in the final year.

More power to the Minister of State who has done a good job and has the support of this House, despite what might appear to be fractious voices. Every single person in this House will support him in going back to Government and trying his hardest, by the most vigorous methods, to make his colleagues understand how important is overseas development aid.

I support the motion and welcome the Minister to the House. I compliment him on his drive and initiative in his ministry and in keeping the area of overseas aid to the fore.

I commend to the House the Government's decision to increase overseas aid again this year by €25 million, bringing it to €399 million. The people around the world who receive the benefit of our aid will be seeing real additional help from Ireland in the year ahead, and when contributions from other Departments are factored in next year, we will spend some €480 million, equivalent to 0.14% of our GNP.

Some people see our aid budget as a luxury when spending is being controlled elsewhere. I believe it fits with the values and wishes of the Irish people. We are staying true to our commitment to helping the poorest people of the world. As a country, we will continue to be one of the leading donors of aid in the world in respect of our GNP. It is no harm to salute the contribution we have made. Ireland is seventh in the world as a donor, ahead of countries such as France, Britain and Finland. Our current level, as well as our commitment, well exceeds the EU target of 0.33% of GNP of each member state's aid budget, as agreed in Barcelona last year. Ireland's aid programme in the year ahead, has been targeted at almost €400 million. We continue to show a significant increase compared to where we were a few years ago.

In the context of the many calls on the public finances, we are giving priority to sustaining overseas aid. We must ensure that the real and positive outcomes for the world's poor, those of Africa in particular, are safeguarded in the budget. Our focus must be on the benefits for those we aim to help. Ultimately, this will be the measure of success in funding our aid programmes. There has been unprecedented growth. Five years ago, our contribution was €158 million; it is now €373 million and moving towards €400 million. As a nation, we should be proud of our record in this regard.

It is no harm in debates like this to remind people of some basic facts, if for no other reason than to ensure we double our efforts to help the people concerned. Some 1.2 billion people live on less than $1 a day, 2.8 billion people live on less than $2 a day and 2.4 billion people lack the basic sanitation facilities we all enjoy. Some 11 million children under five die annually in developing countries, mostly from infectious diseases, while more than 100 million, including 60% of girls, do not have basic primary school education, facilities we enjoy.

The critical issues and principles that govern the development of a country are what we have to address. We must ensure our aid is well spent. That is the task that faces the Minister of State at the Department of Foreign Affairs, Deputy Kitt. We must ensure we put the alleviation of poverty first, that we address people's basic needs and that we work in partnership with developing countries. We must work in partnership to educate and train people in sustaining themselves. We must target children to ensure the countries concerned are safeguarded in the future. We must link this issue to human and civil rights. We should also bear in mind, in a debate like this, that terrorism and its causes often stem from countries that lack basic needs and are underdeveloped. As well as dealing directly with terrorism, we must counter the breeding grounds of terrorism.

I salute our NGOs, missionaries and volunteers, who have represented this country so well during the years. Before we ever gave serious amounts of aid to these countries, the above groups were championing the cause in the name of this country. They have played a crucial role in providing aid, fostering public awareness about the crises in the countries concerned and ensuring financial support. We should also salute the Irish people who have given so generously over the years when asked. Were it not for their leadership role, we would not be making the contributions we are making today.

Greater public awareness of the depth and scope of our aid programme is required. There has to be public ownership of this whole area, a greater awareness in schools etc. I welcome the fact that a number of schools are now taking on summer visits to areas like Zambia, Brazil and various other countries as part of an educational programme for young people. We should wear this as a badge of honour and ensure we shore up our aid programme against future attacks.

As regards comments about funding in Uganda, I urge the Minister of State not to abandon this programme, but to ensure it is directed at those in need. That is a huge responsibility, but we cannot abandon these people.

I ask the Minister of State to elaborate on the position regarding APSO and facilitating volunteers serving in aid programmes overseas. We must continue with programmes in which we are embedded and we cannot overstretch our resources. There is an onus on us to help countries to move on to the next level to ensure that they have political and economical stability. It is not good enough to do a small bit and then to move on. We must ensure we bring them from their current level to the next level before we consider expanding into other programmes. South Africa is recognised as the linchpin in the greater African Continent. We must ensure we play our part in bringing stability to South Africa in the hope that the entire region will benefit.

I hope we use the forthcoming Presidency of the EU to highlight our commitment to overseas development aid. I hope Ireland's solidarity with countries in need will be emulated by other EU countries. I wish the Minister of State well not only with his national responsibilities, but also with his international ones. I hope the advances we have made in recent years will continue to be made. The Minister of State has shown his dedication and commitment to the Ministry and he has done Ireland and the Government proud.

I thank the Minister of State for coming here this evening. He has been in the House a number of times to discuss related issues. I wish to move the Labour Party amendment.

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The Senator cannot move her amendment at this stage, but she may speak to the motion.

I will speak to the Labour Party amendment. I also support the Fine Gael amendment, which is similar. The main point of the Labour Party amendment is that the Government is not keeping its targets for overseas development aid as a percentage of GNP. Unless the Government changes its policy and increases its aid for 2004, it is unlikely we will reach the UN target of 0.7% of GNP by 2007. That is an issue of concern for the country and it should be condemned. The Minister of State was quoted in The Irish Times a week ago as having said that it will be difficult to reach the UN target and that he will have to give some consideration to the timeframe over the coming months. That is worrying. The Taoiseach committed himself to the UN target as recently as September and it was also part of Ireland's campaign to win a seat on the UN Security Council a few years ago.

There has not been any progression of the Government's target. It is the opposite of what Senator Ormonde said. There is no point trying to blame the NGOs, as Senator Ormonde seemed to do. This is part of the Government's stop-go approach to current public spending. That is a cynical approach which undoes the good done by the Government in its development aid programme. The momentum has been lost in terms of the implementation of the programme and the good work done by previous Governments is also being undone. The Government's credibility has been damaged by its failure to increase the percentage of aid. The level of aid should be at 0.48% for 2004 if the Government was committed to reaching its target.

A number of speakers referred to the success of our programmes. That is recognised in the Labour Party amendment, OECD reports and the documentation many Senators received today from Trócaire. The OECD has stated that our aid is of a high standard. Senator Norris referred to the different indicators used to draw that conclusion. There are a couple of recommendations in the documentation I received from Trócaire today, including the fact that the levels should be increased in the budget to 0.48% of GNP for 2004 and that the Government should commit itself to incremental increases, as outlined by Senator Browne. Trócaire and the OECD recommend that we should have a multi-annual funding arrangement for ODA allocation. Trócaire recognises the value of that approach from 2000 to 2003 to enable strategic medium-term plans as the programme expands. I ask the Minister of State to respond to the recommendations by the OECD and by Trócaire in the documentation which was sent to Senators today.

Senator Norris was right that we all want to reach the targets. If we do not reach the targets, it will not damage the Government, but Ireland's credibility in the long term. World security will also be affected because everyone gains when the levels of poverty are reduced in developing countries. More people will die if less is contributed by the Government than previously indicated.

I thank the Seanad for arranging this debate and for inviting me to address the House. I have spent some time here during other debates. It was said by the Leader and others that this Chamber has its own unique character. I agree with that because such debates are conducted less acrimoniously and it is useful parliamentary work. I thank Members for the all-party support for increasing the budget, which I will speak about later.

The programme of assistance to developing countries has received a strongly favourable review from the member states of the OECD Development Assistance Committee. It took many hands over a considerable period to build the programme which drew many plaudits in Paris last week. On their behalf, I accept the favour implicit in this motion and I thank the Members for the strong support it demonstrates.

I welcome the opportunity to explain some of the elements of the programme which have attracted such a positive assessment. However, I agree that we must continue to do better and maintain a professional and effective approach. While the public may not know every detail of the official programme, there is evidence of strong support for the concept of providing assistance to poorer countries. Our own folk history of famine, the path-finding role of our missionaries and the current positive profile of NGOs have all created a public sense of understanding for the underdog in development terms, for those whose starting point, by virtue of disease, deprivation and history, is so far behind as to make the process of catching up all but impossible.

As the DAC concluded last week in Paris, and as will be shown when its printed report appears next month, the Irish programme of development assistance is a strong one. Through its focus on capacity building and partnerships and its adherence to the best practices in development policy, the Irish programme, by the judgment of its peers, is strong and has a reputation for high quality aid. While aid includes responding compassionately to emergencies such as Liberia, for example, it is especially about addressing long term development needs, the slow building of the capacity which enables poorer countries to help themselves, and sustainable development.

The programme is an integral part of Irish foreign policy and is strong in policy and in implementation. Its components testify to the concentration on long term development. The bilateral programme focuses on just six countries in southern and eastern Africa and one in Asia, where we are a significant player in helping them to develop all aspects of their social and economic infrastructure, playing a role not unlike that which the EU played in our development. Our multilateral aid assists UN agencies which play leading roles in development and agencies which deal with children, refugees, AIDS and other health issues, human rights, mine clearance, environmental degradation and women's issues. We have a well regarded programme of debt relief and, not least, we have a strong programme of assistance through NGOs which have developed outstanding international reputations and high profiles at home.

The issue of the quality of aid is crucial. Some 50 or more years since western countries began trying to bring about development, the fact that there is so little progress speaks for itself. The emphasis of the programme must be on quality to have any prospect of success and, moreover, it must be seen to have this focus. The review by the OECD has found that, as acknowledged earlier, Ireland channels half of its overseas development assistance to least developed countries. This is the largest share among the 22 member countries in the DAC and contributes to achieving the millennium development goals. The programme has a long-standing focus on health and education, which is now complemented by a major focus on HIV and AIDS. We have maintained a laudable concentrated focus on a select number of very poor countries in our bilateral programme and we have moved in recent years to establish a strategic partnership with NGOs.

This high quality aid, which is at the heart of the Irish programme and to which the OECD peer review is testament, took years of patient work to build. A real working partnership with a developing country begins with building an understanding of its people's reality and getting beneath the skin of the daily challenges. A social worker in Dublin or an aid worker in Africa will tell one of the slow, patient work needed to move beyond the barriers of low self-esteem which are common in any environment of poverty. It is also slow work to break down the assumption that outside know-how is better and to reach a common understanding of needs and the tentative beginning of genuine partnership.

In the bilateral programme, all our engagements are driven by three year country strategies. The same three year process applies to NGOs and multilateral agencies. In each case those strategies are preceded by significant evaluation to assess the value of the engagement, identify lessons and adjust the engagement to take them into account. Most importantly, in the case of our programme countries it is not Ireland which is in the driving seat but the authorities in those countries. Hard experience has shown that if we do not create a sense of ownership, a sense that it is the country's development priorities which apply, there will be no sustainable progress.

Our strategy is summed up in the old adage of helping people to do things for themselves. Progressively, over the years, we have moved away from donor-owned projects to working in partnership to support self-sustaining development within poor countries. The key requirement in terms of effectiveness is to work with partner countries to create an enabling environment. Our own recent experience of development has shown the central requirement of creating the conditions to promote the growth of indigenous industry and the promotion of exports and inward investment. A key part of our approach is to work with partner countries to create such an environment. Time permitting, I will deal later with the issue of trade, which was rightly referred to by Senator Mooney and others. Lastly, we do not work alone. As mentioned, we work with partner governments; we also avail of the huge capacity and experience of the UN agencies and we work with international, Irish and local NGOs. Together, this represents a wide alliance for a war on poverty on a broad front.

To fuel that war we need resources. Our funding this year and next year will be the highest in our history. This year our overall official development assistance stands at €450 million, taking account of other Departments. This may be compared to a little over €40 million a decade ago. Next year there will be an increase of €25 million to almost €480 million, as mentioned by Senator Ormonde. Given the constraints on our public finances, it must be acknowledged that the development programme continues to enjoy prominence among the Government's priorities.

As Senators know, we are committed to reaching the United Nations aid target of 0.7% of GNP. Obviously the slowdown in economic growth and its impact on tax revenues has affected all Government services, including the aid programme, which this year will remain at 0.41% of GNP. I acknowledge that it will be difficult to maintain momentum, but the commitment stands, and as the tightness in public finances eases with the growth of the economy, I will be pressing to re-establish momentum. I thank Senators for their support in this matter. I work in partnership with NGOs and the cross-party support I have received tonight is appreciated. It must be acknowledged that the debate on this occasion was tough for everybody who wanted to increase his or her budget. We have seen from the debate in the last week on other domestic and political issues that there are pressures everywhere.

The multi-annual arrangement is the preferred option and it is extremely useful to have such a recommendation made here. We all know that would be the best way of doing things. In the short time allowed to me it is not possible to give a detailed outline of the whole programme. Instead I will dwell on the issue of HIV and AIDS, which merits huge attention. It will be a central development issue in our EU Presidency and has been referred to by a number of Senators. As the world enters the third decade of the AIDS epidemic, which has rightly been called a pandemic, the evidence of its impact is compelling. Dozens of countries are already in the grip of the disease and many more are threatened by it. More than 3 million lives were lost to AIDS last year and 5 million people acquired the human immune deficiency virus, bringing to 42 million the number of people living with the virus around the world. Over the next decade, without effective treatment and care, they will join the ranks of the 20 million who have already died of AIDS. Enabling those who have not yet acquired the virus to protect themselves against HIV, and providing adequate and affordable treatment and care to people living with the virus, represent two of the biggest challenges we face.

In sub-Saharan Africa, the worst affected region, 29 million people are living with the virus. A few years ago, malaria and a host of tropical diseases were the main cause of premature death. That has changed; AIDS is now the main killer. The threat is worsening. In this area approximately 3.5 million new infections occurred in 2002, while the epidemic claimed the lives of an estimated 2.4 million Africans in the past year. Women now outnumber men among people living with the disease, and a chilling statistic in terms of future vulnerability and likely social problems is that 11 million children have lost one or both parents to the disease.

I struggle in trying to bring the scale of the tragedy home to people in Ireland. Perhaps the best way to make sense of it is to go back to a device we used in our advertising campaign leading up to World AIDS Day last year, in which we asked people to imagine that every week the population of a town in Ireland would be obliterated. Senator Norris mentioned this earlier. Another analogy is our own experience of famine and the degree to which it has seared our history and put its mark on much that has happened since. Imagine the impact in centuries to come of a tragedy on this scale and our failure to stop it.

What is the impact of the disease on development in terms of the strong Irish programme I have outlined? It is clear from the statistics I just mentioned that all gains in development are in danger of being undermined by this corrosive threat. The most potent evidence of its impact is the reduction of life expectancy in the continent by more than ten years. Other gains in the area of education and literacy have been seriously undermined. The impact of HIV and AIDS is most severely felt by the poor – effectively those who are disempowered – and particularly by vulnerable groups such as women, children and the elderly. Young women in particular are at risk, both biologically and socially. Women are more vulnerable to HIV infection due to less secure employment, lower incomes, less access to formal social security, fewer entitlement to assets and savings and little power to negotiate sex. They are more likely to be poorly educated and have uncertain access to land, credit and education.

In addition, the impact of AIDS on food supplies particularly affects women and children. Women contribute over 50% of food production in sub-Saharan Africa and Asia and typically carry out the labour intensive elements of farm ing. Women are responsible for subsistence production, food storage, food preparation and water collection. The recurrent food crisis in southern Africa highlights how vulnerable many countries are to shocks that disrupt food production and consumption. The prevalence rates of HIV are, not surprisingly, high in those countries most affected by food shortages and range from 15% in Malawi to 33% in Swaziland.

One of the most disturbing aspects of the epidemic is its impact on children. More than 14 million children currently under the age of 15, most of them in Africa, have lost one or both parents to AIDS. By 2010 this number is expected to jump to more than 25 million. With infection rates still rising and adults continuing to succumb to the disease, HIV-AIDS will continue to undermine progress in the protection of children and cause large-scale suffering among the most vulnerable for years to come.

As acknowledged by the OECD in its review, Development Cooperation Ireland has a strong policy commitment to addressing the challenge HIV-AIDS presents to the achievements of the millennium development goals. Its policy direction is clearly outlined in its strategy, A HIV-AIDS Strategy for the Ireland Aid Programme. This strategy outlines the direction of our contribution to the prevention of HIV-AIDS infection as well as the mitigation of its impact on development. To accomplish this aim we are giving greater prominence to HIV-AIDS throughout the organisation, including the re-orientation of the programme and the training of staff to be responsive to the epidemic. Increased financial support is being directed to international and national efforts to combat the epidemic and to promoting greater policy coherence between international and bilateral initiatives. In addition, we are supporting specific programmes that have proven to be effective in alleviating the impact of the epidemic.

The year 2001 was one in which the international community demonstrated an increasing commitment to address the problems of HIV-AIDS. A declaration of commitment was agreed following the United Nations General Assembly Special Session on HIV-AIDS in June 2001. Members will recall the Taoiseach made a commitment at that session that Ireland will spend an additional €50 million per year on HIV-AIDS programmes.

Over the last three years the volume of funds we have committed to HIV-AIDS has increased tenfold. In 2002 alone, over €40 million was spent on HIV-AIDS programmes with a similar budget for 2003. Our global response to HIV-AIDS comprises advocating for a sustained and resourced response to the disease, strengthening leadership at all levels and improving co-ordination of resources. The Irish programme provides funding to UNAIDS. Members will be aware that we have been heavily involved with the Clinton Foundation in providing additional funds. Ireland does not just make commitments – we honour them. Ireland has taken a holistic approach and does not simply provide treatment, we also provide for care and prevention. Much of our work is now concentrated in Mozambique.

In 2002, DCI launched a new regional initiative designed to complement HIV-AIDS activities in countries already benefiting from Irish support. The programme supports activities in a number of key areas, including prevention to promote behaviour change; home based care and orphan care; countering stigma and discrimination of those living with HIV-AIDS; and operational research around specific areas and issues. We are involved in this in all our programme countries and embassies in those countries have been asked to ensure they build the treatment of HIV-AIDS into their programmes.

The primary impact of HIV-AIDS is borne by families and communities. Given the limited resources of government, non-governmental organisations and faith-based organisations often bear the primary responsibility for delivering home based care and support to orphans and vulnerable children. In 2002 the Irish programme established the HIV-AIDS partnership scheme and this continues to work well.

HIV-AIDS continues to be the biggest single obstacle to reducing poverty and to attaining the Millennium development goals. To fight it, so many things must work together, including strong leadership, allocation of adequate resources, co-ordination of planning and promoting a best practice approach. Monday next is World AIDS Day and we intend to highlight the issue as we did last year. We are organising a major conference on this issue during our Presidency. This conference will relate the problems caused by HIV-AIDS in central and eastern Europe and central Asia. The head of UNAIDS has spoken about the need to urgently address the problem in that part of the world. As Europeans, it is important that we do this.

Senator Mooney referred to the CDI index. This essentially refers to coherence and seeks to ensure there is coherence between our policies on peacekeeping, environment and development. This area is close to my heart and there is progress to report in it. In going to Cancun for the World Trade Organisation talks, I initiated a process between my Department and the Department of Enterprise, Trade and Employment. The Minister of State at the Department, Deputy Michael Ahern, headed the trade delegation. I was involved as Minister of State with responsibility for overseas development aid as was the Minister for Agriculture and Food, Deputy Walsh. It is important that we have coherence between Departments.

The distorting effect of subsidies emerged at Cancun. We have made progress since the index assessment was carried out and changed our policies during the mid-term review of the CAP. This ensures the issue of subsidies has been disconnected from production. I consider this to be a key development and I warmly welcome it. We recently held a forum on agriculture where, for the first time, there was an exchange between farming organisations and NGOs. Prior to the talks in Cancun, I had made a suggestion that such an exchange should take place. I met a representative group of NGOs yesterday and members of it told me the dialogue is continuing. This is the first time NGOs are getting the opportunity to debate these issues with farming representatives. This is a tremendous development as, with the decoupling of production and subsidies, there will be common ground between those that represent the least developed countries and organisations that represent Irish farmers in disadvantaged areas. I am referring to the west, in particular, an area about which I know something. There is a common ground in the need to look after the less well off both at home and abroad and this provides good prospects for cohesion.

As regards peacekeeping, we must acknowledge that the index was probably measured following our disengagement from Lebanon. Ireland has sent 430 troops to Liberia and they will be in place before the end of the year. Having visited the country I am conscious that this is a mission not without risk. Liberia gives Ireland a huge opportunity to play its part, and not just in peacekeeping. I am convinced that we can do much work on development and human rights and carry out humanitarian works. A number of Irish NGOs are already active in the country. I intend to ensure we bring cohesion between those elements during our Presidency. While it will be a difficult job, it is one we will rise to and we have the capacity to do it. I accept that more work must be done in the area of the environment. Ireland has made commitments on climate change and we will be raising this issue during the Presidency. We need to do more work in this.

The trade engaged in by the least developed countries to which I have referred constitutes 0.5% of world trade. Those countries earn eight times more from trade than they receive in overseas development aid. This makes clear to me that while ODA is vital – I will do my utmost to keep the graph continuing in the right direction – trade is an issue that must be addressed.

We have carried out some work in this area, such as the CAP reform. We have also had the TRIPS agreement, an important trade issue regarding access to affordable medicines. Since taking up this position we have put much of our resources into capacity building for these countries. Agencies like the IDA and Enterprise Ireland help our companies to trade. We want to give similar supports to these countries to help them to trade. Senator Norris referred to the private sector forum I am establishing. I believe this to be an exciting opportunity to give Irish companies the chance to trade and share their skills and management know-how with similar companies in the developing world. The idea is to establish partnerships with similar companies, mentoring and exchanging personnel, expertise and technical assistance. There is much we can do. I assure the House this will not be part of the ODA budget; it is a separate initiative from which we can derive many benefits.

Senator Ormonde mentioned NGO accountability. We have strong reporting systems with NGOs. She raised an important point. There is charities legislation on the Statute Book which does not come under my ministerial responsibilities. It is the responsibility of the Minister for Community, Rural and Gaeltacht Affairs, Deputy Ó Cuív. We should be bringing in that legislation as soon as possible and I will investigate the matter.

The issue of communication was mentioned by many Members. We need to find ways to improve our message and that is something we are working on. I am anxious that Members from both Houses of the Oireachtas should be involved in seeing what is going on abroad. I have taken the initiative on that front. Members from this House will be involved quite soon. That will come into next year's programme. It is important that we build up the development community out there. I was asked about the Agency for Personal Service Overseas, APSO, by Senator Minihan. The question is timely because I am pursuing a modernisation programme on three fronts. I mentioned the private sector: an ICT task force is reporting to me in the next week and that will provide new opportunities to help many of these countries on the new technology front. We will come back to that. As regards the volunteers, APSO is being integrated into the Department of Foreign Affairs. We now have an opportunity to progress the whole approach to volunteers and to modernise it.

In early December, I will announce a major initiative on volunteers. During the Special Olympics we saw the tremendous support that exists for voluntarism in Ireland. I believe this can be replicated internationally. We know what is happening in many parts of Ireland, with even young students going abroad to help out in the developing world. Universities are involved and I want to expand the volunteer agenda. We have a tradition of trained people going abroad for periods, and in many cases they have gone for a year or two. We should give people the opportunity to go abroad for a number of months. There are many fantastic young graduates who are keen to go abroad to try to play their part. We have been in touch with the relevant organisations for some months and an interesting initiative will be announced shortly. I am keen to build up a new generation of development practitioners, so to speak. This is quite exciting and I hope we will have Members' support.

On Uganda, I again thank the Seanad for contributing to this debate and for Members' understanding of the complexities of the situation. I have been to Uganda and have seen the high quality work that has been done with taxpayers' money. It includes the work on long roads that NGOs would not be able to build. The idea that NGOs or missionaries can do what we are doing is a myth. It is about bringing water to villages. I have been there when the taps were turned on and seen the impact on the most deprived and disadvantaged communities. I have seen the schools and the training colleges where Irish taxpayers' money is going. I assure the House that the money is being well spent.

There are major political issues with which we need to deal and we are engaged with those. I have met President Museveni twice, when he visited Ireland and at a meeting in Tokyo not long ago. We went through all the issues regarding the Democratic Republic of the Congo. I would suggest that not just Ireland but the Dutch, the British and all of us who were present in the capital, Kampala, through our embassies have managed to exert influence and leverage on this government to do certain things. The obvious one was to withdraw from the Democratic Republic of the Congo. That has happened. There are issues of governance that we need to address. We are in there dealing with building up the police and the judicial system. This is a complex issue. It comes right to the heart of development and how we operate as a nation. Do we walk away from the kind of issues I mentioned earlier? That is a key point. I would find it hard to do that, but if that is what the Oireachtas wants, we will have to think about it. As we debate this issue today, I am satisfied, on balance, that the work we are doing is very valuable to the ordinary people who are detached from the political considerations and have nothing to do with these areas of controversy. I am satisfied we should be with them, as many Members have said.

The question of political issues is one of those subjects that has caused much public debate. This is good because it has brought the issues into the public domain. We will stay with Uganda, but we are not uncritical. We are also in there changing policies also as regards how the government is run. There are issues down the line that we need to address such as the development of a multi-party state and other matters. The bottom line is we have a good programme. It has won support in this House tonight. We are not standing still and are undertaking some interesting new initiatives, thanks to a growing budget.

The Minister of State certainly has a supporter in me, as he knows. My admiration for the incredible work of the staff of Development Cooperation Ireland is no secret. The Minister of State and DCI staff probably regret more than any of us the fact that more progress is not being made towards the 0.7% of GNP target. That is what everyone wants. We might be wiser to get the Taoiseach to lower his sights somewhat and concede that if we are not going to be on target, we could at least make it 0.5% or 0.6% or something like that. That could be a comfort to us all.

I will start with where the Minister of State left off and say that I have been to Uganda too and I know the concerns people have. It is all very well imposing democracy and one's way of life on a country, but as the Minister of State rightly said we have given people ownership of these programmes. We are there as partners with them, not to tell them what to do. All the efforts I saw being made in Uganda were absolutely excellent. One meets people in various parts of Africa who seem to posses the right calibre for running the whole country and then a few weeks later one discovers that they have been dismissed on some terrible charge. That happens here, too. Those sort of things happen. It is as well not to be too self-righteous about politicians in other countries because there can be problems, as we know only too well.

That Irish aid is not tied makes me very proud. I have been particularly struck in other countries, not just Uganda, by the fact that we buy local produce. This is hugely important because it means those who produce the products there are encouraged to produce more as they know there will be a market. If, on the other hand, one does as the United States does, and sends in unwanted grain or surplus wheat, that is not nearly as valuable. While our monetary effort may not have gone up that much, the quality of what we are doing there is important. To send wheat to an area where it is not normally eaten and where there are no mills for it, having refused to mill it before it is sent, is a hard-hearted way to behave. The way we deliver aid, I believe, is extraordinarily good. The Minister of State is a great supporter, as I am, of the multilateral organisations, the United Nations Population Fund, UNFPA and the United Nations Children's Fund, UNICEF. These organisations are incredibly important in providing the best forms of treatment that are available in the multilateral state. Their ability to influence governments is also important. Ours is only one voice but these organisations have a big voice in influencing governments on how to bring forward various programmes.

I was particularly struck by the Minister's comments about AIDS. This is the most appalling problem at present. Education is required, not just in literacy and numeracy but also about sex. There is a serious problem with regard to preventing the spread of AIDS. I attended the conference organised by the Minister of State about a month ago which was held in Iveagh House. I was not there for the entire day but for a large part of it. Some of the talks were profoundly depressing. Some of those who work in Africa said the window of opportunity to get the message across to school children about how AIDS is spread is getting progressively shorter. The age of infection is decreasing in many African countries because it is now better known that the younger the girl with whom a man has sex, the less likely she is to be infected.

When I was promoting adolescent sexual rights, people did not think I was doing so to encourage adolescents to have sex. I was trying to promote the concept that they should be given an understanding that they were not obliged to have sex with older people. This is a big problem in Africa. The Minister will have been told by people in Africa about the sugar daddies and so forth who approach schoolgirls and tell them they will pay for their uniforms, their school fees etc., if they will have sex with them. This, unfortunately, is how the infection is spread. Unless women in these countries are somehow shown that they have the power to say "no" to sex and the traditional practices which are extremely dangerous and must be changed, we will face an uphill task.

I am glad the Minister of State is supporting the microbicides initiative, particularly in view of the fact that the latest vaccine trials have failed and the next ones will not be held until 2007. This is most disappointing. I am not an expert on vaccinations but because the HIV virus can mutate so easily, I believed it would be particularly difficult to produce a vaccine for it. They tried to produce the vaccine with the DNA core but the latest results are disappointing. Some of my colleagues who work in the field of HIV infection are not enthusiastic about microbicides but that might just be in Europe. Things are different in Africa. I have little experience of meeting people in this field in Asia, eastern Europe or Russia.

It gives the woman some power. Even if it was only 50% effective, it would make a big difference. The problem with condoms is that the woman must persuade the man to wear them. There is a supply of only five condoms per man in sub-Saharan Africa per year. One can see, therefore, that the situation is a little gloomy for a girl seeking some protection. I strongly support the microbicides initiative.

Ireland did good work on the TRIPS agreement and I am delighted that retroviral drugs are now being made available. The development of resistant strains is a worry but we will have to cross that bridge when we come to it. When I spoke to people in Uganda, Zambia and other countries about white cell counts and the sophisticated treatments we carry out in this country, they thought I was half mad. I probably was even to mention them but we must try to supply as much as we can.

Senator Minihan said earlier that we should try to address the reason that certain countries have problems with terrorism, which is putting a terrible burden on many administrations. At the end of the Anglican memorial service in Istanbul for those who had died in the bombing, Canon Ian Sherwood, who is my constituent, said we badly need to address the issues that cause people to act in this way. We should try to do that through the various aid programmes in which we are involved.

I have been following this debate carefully. On both sides of the House there is a great feeling of pride in the tradition that exists in Ireland of helping less fortunate countries. In many ways that is the result of our history of deprivation. We always highlighted the aid we received, even if it was limited, and we appreciated it. It helped us to survive and gave us the opportunity to develop.

All the relevant statistics were mentioned in the course of the debate. However, they are a little clinical and sometimes overshadow the fact that what we are talking about is human suffering. In a way we are lucky that we are reminded of that suffering every day, particularly through television programmes. There is a terrible sense of frustration. It is easy to put a few euro in an envelope occasionally and send it to an agency but we know that it is a much bigger problem. We should not underestimate what is being done by the Irish aid agencies. The Minister has complimented them, as he has done on many previous occasions, and so have many Members of the House. They have been heroic and are living up to the dictum that it is better to light a candle than curse the darkness.

There is an element of that in the criticism of the work the Government is doing. The Government is not cursing the darkness but is also lighting a candle. It wants to help. I have spoken to and read articles by people who have travelled to these countries, including Uganda. They have seen the health clinics, the primary schools and the rural roads built by Irish aid. There is tangible proof.

Kevin Myers wrote in The Irish Times last July about Irish overseas aid, corruption and so forth. It was a sad piece of journalism. It was certainly a case of cursing the darkness but, even worse, what he said in the column was quite vulgar. He concluded by saying that he would not give money to African countries. It is easy to have a nightcap, go to bed, sleep and forget about them. I do not like that. It is unfair journalism and it is not acting in a humanitarian way. It involves making cheap jibes.

Everybody knows there is corruption in Uganda but even the World Bank has acknowledged that there has been a significant improvement there. If the Government does not interact with the governments in these countries, they will not be able to develop further. People might have looked at Ireland and said that the aid coming to this country during its worst days was sufficient in itself but we know it was not. It is necessary to have an infrastructure. I have already acknowledged the heroic work being done by the NGOs but even with the best will in the world it is not public service. The only way to deliver is by ensuring that there is a public service in place. If there is corruption in Uganda, it is being exposed by the Ugandans through a vibrant press, an active civil society and lively parliamentary debates. Anybody who studies the situation there will see that it is the Ugandans who are exposing it.

It would be sad if the people who are doing this work in Uganda did not have the support and help of other sovereign governments. It is particularly important to acknowledge the courage of what this Government is doing in its programme. There is a risk factor involved. Everyone can joke about Idi Amin, the wealth he had and so on. Senator Norris referred to the trips abroad. Of course this type of corruption exists. However, we must consider the people within the country who are trying to change this. The countries who have developed over the years started off with the worst excesses and then heroic people within that society tried to change things. The last thing these people want is to be ignored or isolated and for the west to move on to some other agenda.

I fully respect the views of Members on the other side of the House. This is an issue on which we should develop a united front. While there is no political kudos to be gained from human suffering of this kind, there is a lot of political risk involved. If money is taken out of the Exchequer to fund overseas development aid there will be less money for something else. We are all aware of the risks but luckily our tradition is to give a little to those who are less fortunate. Because of the work Irish people have done, particularly the missionaries and other volunteers who work abroad, there is a lot of goodwill for Ireland. Given the trust in the Irish position, Ireland is often seen as an honest broker or intermediary. If we were to desert people who are expecting help from us, we would not be doing any good for those who are suffering in these countries.

We are all pleased to be able to say that Ireland's contribution is improving all the time. I applaud the Minister of State, Deputy Kitt, because it is quite evident that he has not gone in for histrionics today. He has been very calm about the issue and committed in what he has done. One can sense his compassion, which reflects the views of the Government and society. We should stick to the present programme we have. Certainly we should co-operate with the NGOs, but I do not think Kevin Myers will fill a single bowl for a single person in Africa as a result of what he wrote last July.

I welcome the Minister of State to the House. I do not doubt his sincerity or commitment in this area.

Two annual reports were published yesterday, one by the food and agricultural organisation based in Rome and the other by the UN AIDS organisation, which made depressing reading. The food and agricultural report stated that the percentage of the world population afflicted by chronic hunger or infected with the HIV-AIDS virus has risen to record proportions and that 842 million people in the world are suffering from hunger. The UN AIDS organisation reported that more than 40 million people around the world, including 2.5 million children, are infected with AIDS and that up to 3 million people died last year from AIDS. The Rome-based food and agricultural organisation called for an international alliance against hunger. I hope during our Presidency of the EU we will be to the forefront in leading this alliance against hunger. I hope the Minister of State will adopt a personal role in that regard.

Ireland has a proud record of overseas aid. The Irish people support the giving of aid to countries ravaged by famine, AIDS, war and a myriad of other problems. In this context, I cannot understand the Government's decision to stall aid at 0.41% of GNP. The OECD expressed concern that Ireland is faltering in its progress, which is regrettable. It was stated by several people, including the Minister of State, that the Taoiseach gave a commitment that we would set a target of 0.7% of GNP by 2007. He has repeated this on several occasions. I hope it is not another promise that will be reneged on.

As stated by Senator Lydon, there is overwhelming public support for the aid programme. I urge the Minister of State to make his voice heard among his colleagues in Cabinet. I do not doubt his bona fides but I am sceptical of the Government's commitment to honour its target based on the stalling of it this year. In summary, there is a need for a commitment to annual incremental increases up to 2007. As Senator Henry said, people should be informed if we do not reach the 0.7% target. If the Government and the Taoiseach believe it is not a realistic target they should set another target. They should be honest and upfront because there are no political points to be scored on the issue.

I wish the Minister of State every success in the future.

I compliment the Minister of State on his Department's achievement and on his personal involvement in this area. I also pay tribute to his predecessor who made an important contribution at a time when overseas aid was going through a critical period and questions were being asked about whether it was the right way to undertake the work. There has been some evidence that despite the investment which has been made, life expectancy is deteriorating, food shortages are more acute now than they were when the aid programmes began and overall it may be time to consider whether the policies being followed not just by Ireland, but by the international community, are best suited to the present crisis.

I was particularly impressed with the Minister of State's intervention earlier when he indicated his wish to see trade issues being taken more into account. When I was Minister of State in that office I had an opportunity to meet with some of the leaders in the poorest countries in Africa such as Tanzania. The point was being made constantly by the political leaders that it would be better if they had access to markets for produce such as bananas, cocoa and coffee which would solve a lot of their problems. These people are not all crooks and gangsters, some are reasonably decent guys.

I fully endorse what the Minister of State said about visiting Africa and seeing the situation at first hand. No amount of literature, videos or film can accurately portray the current problems in Africa. When I took up office, people involved in the aid programme suggested that I should visit these areas. I was not too convinced at the beginning but after visiting the area I recognised that one must see the problems on the ground to understand fully the issues.

Most of our aid budget has been spent in sub-Saharan Africa and only approximately 2% is spent in South America. I ask the Minister to pay attention to South America and particularly to areas such as Rio where the problems are enormous and where many Irish people work diligently to solve the problems.

All that is left for me to do is to reflect on behalf of the House on the comments made by the Minister of State and, perhaps, make one or two final points. I am pleased the Minister of State has, with his usual clarity, acknowledged that we still have much to do. I welcome his commitment to coherence and the initiatives he is taking in that regard especially in light of the CDI report.

Ireland can be justly proud of the amount of money it puts into overseas development aid, but there are serious underlying difficulties about our other areas of activity, in terms of the environment, peacekeeping – I am glad he clarified that issue – and trade. We should be justifiably proud that we do not tie contractual obligations to overseas aid as do other countries. I wish to put that in perspective in case it may be seen as not being important. Rich countries send more than $50 billion a year in grants and low interest loans to poor nations. Normally these aid programmes are compared via crude sums of dollars disbursed or by total aid as a percentage of gross domestic product. However, there is tied aid to that, for example, the Canadian and Italian Governments may grant loans to a poor nation for highway construction but then require the recipient nation to hire a Canadian or Italian contractor to build the road, thus preventing the aid recipient from getting the best deal. In 2001, roughly two thirds of total international aid flows was tied. In the late 1990s, the US agency for international development reassured the US Congress that almost 80% of the agency's resources went to purchase US goods and services. That is a disgraceful statistic. The CDI aid ranking also subtracts interest payments that donor nations receive on prior loans, equivalent to about $4.7 billion in 2001. That is an indication of the underlying issues. It is not simply a matter of providing money, it is about how the money is channelled and how it is spent and Ireland has a proud record in that regard.

I should mention, since Senator Daly has expertise in the context of South America, that the top ten recipients of gross ODA from Ireland include, in tenth place, the Palestinian administrative areas. I make a plea to the Minister that if ever there was a case for improving aid to a people who have been oppressed, suppressed and living in the most abject poverty in the refugee camps in the West Bank it is these because I have been there. As Senator Daly said, no amount of videos can convey the misery under which people live. In the context of overseas development aid I ask the Minister of State to consider increasing aid to the Palestinian administrative areas.

The Minister of State's speech at the 2003 Fianna Fáil Ard Fheis encapsulates the ethos behind Ireland's role and proud record in this area. He said:

Our objective of lifting the poor out of poverty will not be achieved unless human rights are placed at the centre of development. Ireland's programme of development co-operation emphasises the importance of human rights, of supporting defenders of human rights in countries such as Burma, of promoting free and fair elections throughout Africa, of ensuring that Governments govern for their people and not for the self selected few.

I also support the efforts of the United Nations to negotiate an international convention on the rights of people with disabilities and I am determined that we continue to play a central role in this area. That is humanitarian aid.

I commend the motion to the House.

Amendment put.

Bannon, James.Browne, Fergal.Burke, Paddy.Burke, Ulick.Coghlan, Paul.Coonan, Noel.Cummins, Maurice.Feighan, Frank.Finucane, Michael.

Hayes, Brian.Higgins, Jim.McHugh, Joe.Norris, David.O'Meara, Kathleen.O'Toole, Joe.Phelan, John.Ross, Shane.Tuffy, Joanna.

Níl

Bohan, Eddie.Brennan, Michael.Callanan, Peter.Cox, Margaret.

Daly, Brendan.Dooley, Timmy.Feeney, Geraldine.Fitzgerald, Liam.

Níl–continued

Glynn, Camillus.Hanafin, John.Henry, Mary.Kenneally, Brendan.Kett, Tony.Leyden, Terry.Lydon, Donal J.MacSharry, Marc.Minihan, John.Mooney, Paschal C.

Moylan, Pat.Ó Murchú, Labhrás.O'Rourke, Mary.Ormonde, Ann.Phelan, Kieran.Scanlon, Eamon.Walsh, Jim.Walsh, Kate.White, Mary M.Wilson, Diarmuid.

Tellers: Tá, Senators Browne and Coonan; Níl, Senators Minihan and Moylan.
Amendment declared lost.

I move amendment No. 2:

To delete all words after "Seanad Éireann," and substitute the following:

a.“noting the Taoiseach's commitment to the UN on September 25th to increase ODA to 0.7% of GNP by 2007;

b. noting the many successes of Ireland's Overseas Development Aid Programmes;

c. recognising that in clear breach of the Taoiseach's promise ODA will remain at 0.41% of GNP through 2004;

– condemns the Fianna Fáil-Progressive Democrat Government's failure to make any progress towards our UN target; and

– calls on the Government to explain what steps it proposes to take during its term of office in order to ensure the Taoiseach's commitment of 25th September is honoured."

I second the amendment.

Amendment put and declared lost.
Question put and declared carried.

When is it proposed to sit again?

At 10.30 a.m. tomorrow.

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