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Seanad Éireann debate -
Tuesday, 3 Feb 2009

Vol. 193 No. 9

Sports Capital Programme.

I welcome the Minister for Arts, Sport and Tourism, Deputy Martin Cullen, to the House. I am glad he is here and thank him for coming in on such a bad night.

Last week he announced that he would not provide sports capital grants in 2009. This will affect many sporting and local community groups. It is bad news not just for sports funding but for the building of sustainable communities. Like many Senators, I am involved in my local GAA club and community organisation and know that the news has serious implications. Last night in many meeting rooms of GAA clubs, soccer clubs, community and voluntary organisations across the country there was devastation at this news. It may well have been flagged that Government was going to announce a freeze on the funding of the sports capital programme but animated discussions have taken place in many sporting groups. I bet the Minister's office and the Department in Killarney have been inundated with calls from people asking where they should go now to help fund clubs and improve facilities.

I am the first to accept that since its inception the sports capital programme has done great work across the country. In some cases it was used wrongly and the Minister in question gave his own constituency preferential treatment and some clubs were left behind.

If one did not get——

The Senator need not worry. I have been chairman of my own club for six years and secretary before that and know well the workings of the sports capital programme. We were lucky to have Jim Collins in my club. He knew the system backwards and could liaise with the Department in latter years because it was a tedious process and one needed people like him to do that. It was a tedious process, and people like Jim Collins were needed to do that.

We are now at a situation where the development of facilities has stopped. In a November debate in the Dáil, the Minister stated that money from the national lottery did not come to him, but rather to him via the Exchequer. However, many clubs that obtained funding for their development projects had to put a sign up stating their projects were partly funded by the sports capital programme and the national lottery. Writing in the Evening Echo, Dave Hannigan wrote that, “It would be easy to summarise that this was an inevitable consequence of the ridiculously harsh economic climate.” He may be right, but why are we doing this now? Why are we penalising voluntary sporting groups? This is about the provision of facilities and the funding of sport, and the use of national lottery money. Do we have to give a percentage of the earnings from the lottery to the sports capital programme and to the funding of sport? When the national lottery was created, I believe the point of it was to provide funding for sport.

The money that we provide for the development of sports facilities and community facilities during these difficult times would help many small builders to employ skilled labourers and others. The lack of money on one level can help kick-start a local economy by providing jobs. We have now told the people we have no money, so sport must suffer. We should continue to provide funding for sport, especially for the development of community organisations. Such development is important to create sustainable, meaningful communities.

Senator Keaveney pointed out that sport binds people together. It casts aside political, religious and other differences. Sport is being killed as a consequence of last week's decision. Clubs were promised by Deputies and Senators. Can we guarantee those clubs that in 2010 they can come back and apply for funding if they begin their projects? Under the current system, clubs cannot start until they get permission.

In a ministerial reply to a Dáil question last November, it was claimed there were moneys outstanding from allocations between 2000 and 2008. Will those moneys be paid out? Can clubs that have not claimed for those moneys still receive them? What plan do we have to assist clubs that need to upgrade or even build new facilities? Are we redefining the purposes of the national lottery? I would rather that the lottery funded sports facilities than sponsor "Coronation Street" on TV3. I mean that, even though I watch "Coronation Street" on and off. It is much better that we fund sport. I heard the Minister on the radio this week when he congratulated Rory McIlroy on his great golfing victory. We need to put our heads together and continue to fund sports facilities. If we do not, we will go back to the era of poor facilities, something which our young people do not deserve.

I thank the Minister for coming to the House. It is important that we have Cabinet members in here for matters on the Adjournment. We need more Ministers like that.

I thank the Senator for his comments. Senators know that I always try to come into this House for my own debates. I have come in on many occasions to deal with matters on the Adjournment concerning my Department, because I have great respect for Seanad Éireann.

Given the benefits associated with sporting activities, the Government regards expenditure on sport as important for the social and economic development of the country. These benefits arise in a wide range of areas including health and well being, social and cultural development, education, personal development, tourism and the economy. The sports capital programme, which is part funded from the proceeds of the national lottery, is the primary means of granting Government support for the provision of sports facilities at national, regional and local level. It was a misunderstanding that the proceeds of the lottery go directly to my Department. It goes to the Exchequer, and like any other Minister, I bid for the various programmes funded through my Department.

Under the sports capital programme, my Department provides funding to voluntary sporting and community organisations for the provision of sports and recreational facilities. More than 7,400 projects have now benefited from sports capital funding since 1998, bringing the total allocation in that time to more than €725 million. In 2008, more than €50 million was allocated towards 685 separate sports facility and equipment projects. The programme has significantly improved the quality and quantity of sporting facilities in virtually every village, town and city in the country. The facilities funded range from the smallest clubs to national sports centres. The aims and objectives of the programme are to foster an integrated and planned approach to the development of sports and physical recreation facilities throughout the country; to assist voluntary and community organisations to develop high quality, safe, well-designed and sustainable facilities in appropriate locations to help maximise participation in sport and physical recreation; to prioritise the needs of disadvantaged areas in the provision of sports facilities; and to encourage the multi-purpose use of local, regional and national sports facilities by clubs, community organisations and national governing bodies of sport.

The programme has supported the provision or improvement of landmark national and regional stadia such as Thomond Park, home to European rugby champions, Munster, and Semple Stadium, the home of hurling for many. These facilities provide a platform for our most talented athletes to perform, which in turn inspires new generations of young people to aspire to match the sporting prowess of their heroes. They are also an important support to our tourism industry as they draw visitors from around Britain, Europe and further afield, who come to Ireland to follow their teams in action.

Each Member of the Oireachtas will be aware of the many benefits that derive from the programme in his or her locality. They have no doubt witnessed the value of the programme in assisting local clubs in meeting the sporting needs of their areas. In recent years, the programme has targeted clubs in areas of social disadvantage. By doing this, the Government is supporting the provision of facilities where there may be little prospect of such facilities being provided by the communities acting alone. These facilities provide an opportunity for participation in sport which leads to healthier lifestyles and a reduced likelihood of younger people drifting into anti-social behaviour.

It is prudent, however, to pause and take stock on occasion, regardless of the merits of a programme. It is essential to review areas of expenditure to determine whether schemes represent the optimal use of the resources available. Accordingly, no decision has yet been made about the timing of further rounds of the programme. My Department is currently finalising a five-year strategic plan to inform the future development of necessary sporting facilities throughout the country. The aim of the strategy is to provide high-level policy direction for future investment and grant assistance at national, regional and local level. It is intended to identify the requirement for sports facilities so that participation at reasonable cost is feasible for those who wish to engage in sport, at either amateur or elite level. The strategy is also examining the wider economic, health and social case for continued investment in sports facilities. It aims to prioritise areas for future investment and to ensure continued impact in the relevant areas.

In the interim, it is business as usual for those that have been allocated grants under previous rounds of the programme, and there is obviously no question of rowing back on allocations already made. The current position remains that €56 million has been provided in my Department's vote in the 2009 Estimates to cover payments to be made from the C1 subhead, out of which grants are paid for the provision of sports and recreation facilities.

When answering questions in the Dáil last week, I felt I did not reveal anything new. This position has been clear since the Estimates were published late last year. I made my position clear at that time. While we are in difficult times, we must recognise that more than 1,000 projects will be undertaken this year across the country. The activity level under the sports capital programme this year will be as high as it always has been. As I have said, no decision has been taken on when the programme will renew itself. I am taking this opportunity to make sure that sporting facilities are fairly balanced in each region of the country. I want to ensure there is a good base of facilities across each region. That will inform our more strategic approach over the next five years, when we are deciding how to use the sports capital programme to continue to benefit all parts of the country. As more than 7,500 projects have been already funded under the programme, it is fair to say it has been a huge success. We have spent significant resources. We need to consider what precisely we should be doing for the next five years.

I thank the Minister for his reply. I would like to comment on two issues. I accept what the Minister has said about the need to review expenditure. What funding mechanism will be put in place to assist clubs now? The Minister did not respond to my remarks about clubs that have already started projects. Can such clubs make applications at a later date?

Second, there seems to be complete confusion about where national lottery money goes. That needs to be clarified. I am not clear on it. Where does the national lottery money go?

I will respond to the Senator's two points. Under the programme that is in place, projects have to receive approval before work can commence on them. A substantial number of projects have been approved. As they progress, invoices will be submitted and moneys will be paid in the normal way. There has been no change in policy to allow construction to start on projects that have not been approved, in the expectation that funds will be provided thereafter.

Promises were made by the Minister's colleagues.

That has never been the case.

I can name two clubs in Cork and Tipperary——

Any club that has proceeded with a project on the basis of a promise from somebody should know that, legally, that is impossible to do. It is simply not possible. The Comptroller and Auditor General examines these proposals. The process that is in place in the Department of Arts, Sport and Tourism is totally transparent. Proper procedures are in place to deal with a range of areas.

It always has been the case, under successive Governments, that the proceeds of the national lottery are sent to the central Exchequer. That is not a new position — it has been the case since the inception of the lottery many years ago. A proportion of the money that is allocated to sporting organisations can legitimately be said to come from funds directly associated with the national lottery. It does not go from the national lottery to the Department of Arts, Sport and Tourism — it goes to the central Exchequer. That has been always the case.

The Seanad adjourned at 7.05 p.m. until 10.30 a.m. on Wednesday, 4 February 2009.
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