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Seanad Éireann debate -
Wednesday, 20 Jun 2012

Vol. 216 No. 2

Adjournment Matters

Fisheries Protection

With the permission of the House, I wish to give a minute of my time to Senator Ó Domhnaill who also wishes to address this issue. It is ironic that the Minister with responsibility, Deputy Coveney, a good honourable Corkman, has left the House and put the Minister of State in charge of a very delicate matter.

I will refresh the memory of the House. In 2006, a Fisheries Bill was introduced and in the same year, the then Minister, Noel Dempsey, one of our own Ministers in that Government, decided to revoke the licence for salmon net fishing around the coastline. This caused great consternation and, arising therefrom, an absolute ban on drift nets for salmon fishing was introduced which affected people around west Cork, Kerry, the island communities and, as my colleague will attest, in Donegal. It had a socio-economic impact on those areas. In Cork there were some 110 active drift net licences, all of which were revoked by ministerial order, as the Minister was entitled to do; it was not done by legislation. As a result of efforts by me and others within our party those affected got a compensation package. At that stage Fine Gael Deputies from the peripheral areas of Ireland, whether in counties Donegal, Mayo, Clare, Kerry, west Cork or Waterford, gave a clear commitment that if they were returned to power they would reverse that particular decision. I locked horns with the Minister of the day, Noel Dempsey, with whom I had difficulties, and he declared that after five or six years he would review the situation.

I accept and do not dispute the importance of salmon fishing to inland fisheries in the rivers and lakes of the west of Ireland. The issue is also present, however, for people in Bere Island, Whiddy Island, Cape Clear and other islands, for whom there should be a limited reopening of salmon fisheries, subject to certain obvious restrictions. I am not talking about the blanket situation that had obtained. However, evidence so far shows that the removal of drift net licences has dramatically increased the volume of fish coming into all the rivers. In Bantry Bay we have the Ouvane and Coomhola rivers, among others. A lot of poaching is going on. In my view, the people I mentioned are the first who should be given, on a test series, a limited licensing system. This would help people in remote rural areas of Ireland, the peninsular areas and islands off west Cork and might only be on a two year basis. If the Minister retains the right to reintroduce a licensing system he also has the right, at any stage, to abandon that system. After six years of the ban it is worth looking at this situation again and we should do so. For many years, salmon fishing off the west Cork coastline was very successful and created onshore jobs. It is worth revisiting. The Minister of State might have some very interesting news for me and I hope at least some of it will be positive.

I thank Senator O'Donovan, who is an expert in this area, for raising the issue and for allowing me 30 seconds to add my tuppenceworth from a north-west point of view. The salmon fishing ban was a devastating blow and a wrong decision. It was devastating for smaller coaster and island communities. The compensation package, although available, was not availed of by all fishermen. Those people, in particular, should be allowed, encouraged or given the opportunity to return to fishing. Although scientific evidence may argue that by returning to fishing there will not be the availability of salmon, the best scientists of all are the fishermen themselves, particularly those living on islands who are advising that there are salmon coming in close to shore, in particular in the north-west 6A area, where salmon are coming in albeit later in the season.

The biggest difficulties, which the Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine did not attack, were the pollution in our rivers, the lack of spawning beds for the production of salmon and the issue of seals. In every bay in the country, as in the bays in my constituency, there are seals sitting up and eating five, six and seven salmon a day. The Department should focus on a seal cull and on reopening salmon fishing. I hope the Minister of State has good news for Senator O'Donovan and me.

Táim chun é seo a léamh, cé go bhfuil sé beagáinín fada agus má bhíonn orm teacht isteach an dara uair, déanfaidh méé sin. Wild salmon in Ireland are part of our rich national heritage and biological tapestry, and Ireland is one of the most renowned natural producers of wild salmon in the North Atlantic.

Ireland traditionally operated a commercial, offshore, mixed stock fishery, an estuarine draft net fishery, an in-river commercial snap net fishery and an angling or recreational fishery.

Fisheries experts and scientists in Ireland have been concerned for many years about the declining numbers of salmon in Ireland. This parallels concerns internationally regarding the severe decline in Atlantic salmon. This parallels international concerns about the severe decline in the number of wild Atlantic salmon, which has a very distinct life cycle. As Ireland has a large number of salmon rivers, it is very important in terms of the worldwide stock of Atlantic salmon. Since 1996, Ireland has introduced a progressive series of conservation initiatives to address this decline in stocks. In addition to conservation measures that were already in place, Ireland introduced an annual quota for angling and commercial salmon fishery in 2002. That quota was reduced progressively on an annual basis from 219,000 salmon in 2002 to 62,000 salmon in 2007. Although these measures provided some protection for stocks until 2007, they did not specifically address the mixed stock nature of Ireland's marine salmon fisheries. These fisheries were known to take salmon from individual river stocks below that river's conservation limits. They took stocks originating from rivers in other countries as well as in Ireland.

Conservation limits are defined as the number of adult salmon required to reproduce in sufficient quantities to generate the next generation of salmon in a specific system and to ensure the long-term sustainability of this river-specific salmon stock. Ireland has established conservation limits for all salmon river systems. The salmon stock status in each catchment is accessed each year using best available counter and catch data supported by scientific data and modelling. This scientific analysis, which is conducted by the independent standing scientific committee on salmon, offers advice on potential salmon surpluses and deficits using the precautionary principle. Each year, management personnel review the scientific outputs and develop management advice for each salmon river. This advice supports the annual development of the salmon and sea trout commercial and angling fishery regulations. In order to align fully with international scientific advice from the International Council for the Exploration of the Sea and the North Atlantic Salmon Conservation Organisation, the Government closed the mixed stock salmon fisheries — the drift net fishery — in 2007. The closure of Ireland's mixed stock commercial salmon fishery was supported by the introduction of a €30 million salmon hardship scheme, which was aimed at fishermen who were prepared to leave the sector permanently and was administered through Bord Iascaigh Mhara.

While the salmon fishery is a public fishery for which a licence is required, there is no obligation on the State to open the fishery. Equally, nobody is entitled to obtain a licence. Despite this lack of licence entitlement, the hardship scheme was made available to all commercial salmon licence holders from previous years. They were given an opportunity to receive compensation in return for ceasing commercial salmon fishing permanently. Applications from interested applicants were accepted until the end of 2007. Many former fishermen availed of the scheme. Since then, the exploitation of salmon stocks through commercial fishing and recreational angling has only been permitted on stocks emanating from rivers that are achieving their conservation limits and therefore have surplus salmon available. In 2012, some 57 rivers are open with a surplus of salmon available whereas 60 rivers are closed because they did not reach conservation limits and did not generate a surplus. A further 31 rivers are open for angling on a catch and release basis. Rivers meeting over 65% of the conservation limit may be approved for catch and release status. This permits rod and line angling under strict conditions, such as using a barbless hook and immediately returning any fish caught to the water alive.

In 2006, the Central Fisheries Board, which is now known as Inland Fisheries Ireland, was directed under the Fisheries Act 1980 to "co-ordinate the preparation and implementation of a programme for rehabilitation of salmon stocks giving priority to rivers below their Conservation Limits in special areas of conservation which have the greatest prospect of recovery". Provision was made for the programme to be funded from the proceeds of the salmon conservation component of salmon licence fees. An additional fee, equivalent to the cost of the salmon licence, was added to all classes of salmon licence to provide funds for conservation in 2007. This fund was subsequently used to rehabilitate habitats in salmon rivers, particularly those under their conservation limits. Over €3 million has been collected and allocated to rehabilitation projects nationwide since the fund was initiated.

The Atlantic salmon is a protected species under the EU habitats directive. The current salmon management regime complies with the requirements of this legislation. The reintroduction of a fishery for offshore islands and coastal communities would be contrary to the internationally independent advice from the International Council for the Exploration of the Sea. Such a move could potentially lead to conflict with EU obligations on grounds of not protecting vulnerable Irish and international salmon stocks. Despite the initial increase in runs in most rivers following the closure of mixed stock commercial salmon fisheries, many specific river stocks remain below their conservation limits. Given the persistently poor marine survival rates experienced by most monitored stocks in the north Atlantic and taking account of forecasts until 2015, at least, any expectation of an increase in catches is unrealistic and irresponsible at present. The advice we have received from our scientists and the position of the North Atlantic Salmon Conservation Organisation is that the priority is the conservation imperative rather than an indiscriminate increase in the catch.

The current low levels of commercial fishing do not involve fish taken at sea but are concentrated on particular stocks in river and estuary systems that are generating surplus fish by meeting their conservation limits. It would not be appropriate to extend commercial fishing to sea areas such as those around offshore islands where the runs of salmon are known to be from multiple river stocks — both Irish and non-Irish rivers — some of which are below their conservation limits. The opening of commercial salmon fishing to offshore areas could only be considered with any authority if there was a dramatic improvement in marine survival of wild Atlantic salmon. Current international advice concurs that there is no indication of this in the foreseeable future. All current scientific evidence suggests that Atlantic salmon stocks remain under severe pressure in Ireland and elsewhere. There is no indication that there has been any sustainable recovery in the stocks as implied in the debate topic. All evidence is that marine survival of wild Atlantic salmon is at a fraction of historical levels. Until this improves significantly, the expansion of the commercial salmon fishery is unsustainable and irresponsible.

I am sure all of Senator O'Donovan's questions were covered in the Minister of State's reply.

I have great respect for the Minister of State on a personal basis. As a former Member of this House, he ground out his back teeth in this Chamber. He has made great progress since then.

I thank the Senator.

However, he was like the grim reaper as he read his reply. He was unable to offer any solace to the people of Donegal, west Cork or Kerry. Some of his colleagues in the Dáil who like to pontificate had suggested that as soon as the new Government came into office, the Fisheries Acts would be revisited and the appalling decision that was made by my colleague, the former Minister, Noel Dempsey, would be reversed. As Senator Ó Domhnaill said, the pollution of our rivers by local authorities and chemical plants over the past 30 or 40 years has done far more damage to this country's salmon fishing industry than the minimal actions of a few lads off the coast of west Cork and Donegal. I accept that this might not fall under the brief of the Minister of State. Can he confirm he is saying that the curtain is down as far as commercial salmon fishing is concerned? If that is the case, we might as well tell the people about it. Perhaps we can make a few bob here and there by letting Merkel's people from Germany pick a few salmon from our rivers and lakes. It is a sad conclusion to the wild salmon fishing industry that I knew for all my lifetime.

Tourists from Germany, Britain, America or anywhere else are more than welcome to come to this country to catch fish in areas where that is allowed. Irish people like Senator O'Donovan and me are welcome to do the same. There is no difference in that respect. The Senator and I know each other for a long time, so I can say to him with respect that the curtain is falling on the salmon stocks themselves. The necessary stocks are not there anymore. That is why we have to give conservation the priority it requires. It must be to the fore in the interests of the survival of the species. As the Senator is aware, commercial fishermen who opted out of that industry permanently were compensated for that as part of a €30 million programme. The key point is that if we can conserve stocks over the years to come, at some point in the future we can return to the status quo that existed before the stocks started to disappear. It would be irresponsible and wrong if all the salmon were to disappear over the next three or four years as a result of an action of this Government or any other Government. It is important that these species survive, and we will do everything possible to sustain their survival in the proper way.

The salmon of wisdom is finished.

Senator Bacik has the second matter. I welcome the Minister of State, Deputy Cannon.

Is the Senator supporting my salmon fishing issue?

School Patronage

I welcome the Minister of State, Deputy Cannon, to the House and thank him for taking this matter. My question to the Minister for Education and Skills, which was timely given the announcement today of the Minister's action plan in response to the advisory group on the Forum on Patronage and Pluralism in the Primary Sector, was specifically on the provision of additional multidenominational school places in the Portobello area in Dublin 8 on the basis of recommendation A4, which is at page 61 of the report of the advisory group on patronage and pluralism. It recommended that where significant demand for a new school type has already been evidenced, a building should be made available by the Department of Education and Skills from existing school stock as soon as possible.

The Portobello Educate Together group, of which I am chair, has already demonstrated significant demand for a new school type in our area. We have 637 members, a total of 409 children pre-enrolled for school between 2013 and 2016, and parents who are clamouring for additional multidenominational school places in our area, even for this year. We hope to see a new multidenominational school established in our area by September 2013.

I am delighted that in today's announcement the Minister has accepted the recommendations of the advisory group. I am pleased to see that his action plan sets out a clear timetable for the carrying out of transfer or divestment of patronage in primary schools where parents and local communities require it but I am anxious that in our area we would see change earlier than envisaged in the Minister's timeline because we have already demonstrated a clear and unchallengeable need for the provision of more multidenominational school places in our area.

Our area is one of the 44 areas designated by the Minister in his response today as requiring a survey of parental demand to establish whether greater diversity of patronage is required but we have already established that requirement. We have established that parents in our area require greater diversity of provision of school type and that we fit precisely within recommendation A4 of the advisory group, which was that the Minister should proceed immediately to provide new school space where the demand has been established. In other words, it should not go into the timeline provided for the surveying of parents in particular areas.

I ask whether any progress has been made. I understood that our area was a pilot area for transfer or divestment and that progress had been made. Has the Minister of State anything to report in terms of that progress?

I am taking this Adjournment matter on behalf of my colleague, Deputy Ruairí Quinn, the Minister for Education and Skills.

As the Senator is aware, in June of last year the Minister announced that up to 40 new schools are to be established within the next six years to provide sufficient school capacity to meet our increased demographics. These consisted of 20 new primary schools and 20 new post-primary schools. That announcement did not include a proposal to establish a new primary school in the area referred to by the Senator. However, the forward planning section of the Department will continue to monitor enrolments in the Portobello area to ensure there is sufficient school accommodation to meet any projected future demands.

The report of the advisory group to the Forum on Patronage and Pluralism in the Primary Sector was published in April of this year. The report's findings and recommendations have been considered, and the Minister outlined his action plan in response to the advisory group report this morning.

In regard to divesting, the advisory group recommended that the process of divesting of patronage would commence in 47 identified areas of stable population with likely demand for diversity. The Minister agrees in principle with the approach to divesting outlined in the forum report and intends to commence the process immediately.

On the areas to be surveyed, as the Senator is aware, the 47 areas referred to in the report were identified at the request of the Catholic Church in 2010 and the list was drawn up based on criteria applied to data from the 2006 census.

Since the Minister published the forum report in April, new data has become available from the 2011 census. The Minister has decided to update the list of areas to be surveyed to reflect the new data available from census 2011 and to take account of areas where primary school diversity is already provided or planned. In summary, this means that the number of areas to be surveyed in the initial phase is 44. I am pleased to inform the Senator that among the Dublin areas to be surveyed in this initial phase are Dublin 4, 6 and 8.

The divesting process will involve the gathering of evidence by the forward planning section of the Department of Education and Skills on the scale of divestment required in the identified areas.

Parents will be given full information on the different types of schools and the different patron bodies. Helplines will be put in place during the survey period to deal with any queries from parents.

Surveying will be carried out in five pilot areas initially — these areas are yet to be decided — with surveys being carried out in these areas in October this year. I understand the Minister aims to start surveying in the balance of the 44 areas in November. I thank the Senator for raising this important issue.

Can the Minister of State give me any more information in terms of the Portobello group? I am disappointed because there is nothing new in his response. The group is not looking for additional school accommodation. It is looking for a change in the type of school accommodation being provided in our area. That fits squarely within the need for transfer or divestment of patronage, and we had understood our area was at an advanced stage for a transfer or divestment from an existing Catholic school to become multidenominational. Has the Minister of State anything specific to say or will he bring my request for specific information to the Minister, Deputy Quinn, and ask whether more detail could be provided because there is nothing new in the answer given?

I have no more information other than what is available in the response from the Minister, Deputy Quinn, but I undertake to pass on the Senator's concerns and ambitions for the Portobello area to the Minister. I would point out that if we are to proceed with the divestment of school patronage in particular areas we must be able to rely on sufficient data to allow us make that decision to divest to an alternative patronage. To move ahead without having that scientific surveying carried out in areas would be unwise.

The response refers to five pilot areas initially. The Senator might have a word with her colleague to see if it would be possible to have the Portobello area included in those five pilot areas.

I will do that. I thank the Minister of State.

Road Signage

The Minister of State will be aware that this issue has been bouncing around a number of Departments, so to speak. I am not anticipating the Minister's reply but I hope it would at least flesh out the question I am asking.

Road signs are dealt with by way of an order made by the Minister for Transport, Tourism and Sport under the Road Traffic Acts. The technical specifications are laid out in a detailed way in the traffic signs manual issued to all road authorities.

I raise this matter because there are growing concerns about the disparity, which is of a bilingual nature, in terms of road signs across the country where either the spelling is incorrect or it is not sufficiently highlighted. It is primarily to do with the variations between the various spellings across the country which is confusing.

Interestingly, when the Official Languages Act was introduced in March 2009 the requirement was for all new signage erected after March 2009 to be bilingual, with the Irish version displayed first and to be as legible, prominent and visible as the text in English, but it seems the Minister opted to specifically exclude road signs from the requirements of the Official Languages Act regulations.

On the spelling of placenames on road signs, the traffic signs manual to which I referred requires road authorities to use the officially designated Irish versions of placenames as agreed by the Place Names Commission. In case of doubt they are asked, under the traffic signs manual, to actively seek the advice of that origination.

There are significant mistakes on road signs throughout the country and when those are brought to the attention of Oifig an Choimisinéara Teanga it contacts the individual authorities and asks them to amend them. I understand that, in the main, local authorities are amenable and responsible in that regard.

In terms of the variations and the incorrect signage, the only way to ensure that all such road signs are correct would be to have a once-off national audit and replacement programme, as well as a detailed proofing mechanism, to ensure that incorrect road signs are not erected in future by roads authorities.

I raise this matter because this is a policy issue. I appreciate that it is about the local authorities enforcing what the Department of Transport, Tourism and Sport has set out in its traffic signs manual but it is patchy at best. It is only when it is brought to its attention that incorrect signs are corrected. That is not good enough, and it is time there was a more co-ordinated approach. I support the view of An Coimisinéir Teanga who stated in a number of his annual reports that a once-off national audit and replacement programme is the only way to address this issue.

I thank the Senator for the opportunity to address this issue today and I am replying on behalf of my colleague, the Minister for Transport, Tourism and Sport, Deputy Leo Varadkar. The Minister has responsibility for overall policy and funding for the national roads programme. However, the planning, design, and implementation of individual national road schemes, including the provision of road signs, are statutory matters for the National Roads Authority, NRA, under the Roads Acts 1993 to 2007 in conjunction with the local authorities concerned. Regional and local roads, including improvement, maintenance and the provision of road signs, are a statutory function of each road authority in accordance with the provisions of section 13 of the Roads Act 1993. In 2003, the regional roads signposting programme was introduced to sign all significant junctions on regional roads in county council areas. This programme is now nearly complete.

There is a clear procedure in place for local authorities to ensure that the correct spelling is used on all traffic signs. This procedure is outlined in the 2010 traffic signs manual. It is a statutory requirement that place names on information signs be in both Irish and English, except for names of destinations in Gaeltacht areas. Where the names of places in these areas are in Irish only and the spelling of a place name is similar in both languages, only the Irish form of the name should be shown. With regard to the spelling of place names on traffic signs, clear guidance on this issue is set out in section 1.1.49 of the 2010 traffic signs manual which is available on the Department's website. In ensuring that the correct forms and spelling of place names are used on traffic signs, road authorities should consult the relevant place names orders published as statutory instruments. If the place name is not included in a place names order, the Gazetteer of Ireland, the place names branch of Ordnance Survey Ireland, should be consulted. Alternatively, in determining the correct Irish form of a place name, road authorities can also consult with, and obtain advice from, An Coimisiun Logainmneacha. Before consulting with an coimisiún, road authorities may wish to ascertain, through local consultation, whether specific place names have a particular local significance or what traditional local usage may exist.

On a bilingual place name sign, the Irish place name is positioned on top, with the English equivalent underneath. In order to convey to drivers as clearly as possible that two distinct languages are contained on the sign, there must be an obvious distinction in text so as not to compromise road safety. This is imperative not just for Irish drivers, but also for the large number of tourists on Irish roads. To this end, sentence case lettering at an angle of 15 degrees is used for the Irish text and uppercase lettering is used for English text. It is believed that the use of inclined or italic and generally lower case script emphasises and best represents the older Gaelic script. In addition, Irish place names are on average 40% longer than their English equivalent. If Irish text was in uppercase and at the required height to be visible, then this would result in much larger signs or numerous abbreviations which could lead to lack of clarity of the sign for the driver. There is a practical implication in preventing signs from being unduly wide where space is limited on substantial numbers of roads around the country where sight lines of visibility can become obscured by larger signs. Also, larger signs require larger posts for structural stability, which increases the safety risk of any potential road collision impact. On balance, the current system of bilingual signs is the preferred option for displaying placenames in both languages in as safe a manner as possible.

In conclusion, the display of text on traffic signs is determined under section 95 of the Roads Traffic Act 1961. The primary motivation of the Department is to ensure that traffic information signs assist in the safe use of the road network and provide clarity for road users so as not to compromise road safety. It is a matter for local authorities to ensure that guidelines set out in the 2010 traffic signs manual are followed.

I am grateful to the Minister for that response as it fills in many of the gaps on the history and background to signage. However, most of the response is taken up with the issue of design and the manner in which signs should be displayed. The core of my argument is the point mentioned in the last sentence of the response, that signage is a matter for local authorities. I agree and have no difficulty about that. However, local authorities are not implementing the recommendations and guidelines as set down in the Department's traffic signs manual. Therefore, I ask for some proactive approach to be taken by the Department on this, rather than just saying it is up to the local authorities.

Local authorities are failing in their duty in this regard. It seems they tender to different companies which do not then consult with the Place Names Commission as to the correct spelling. I cannot think of any other reason for the problem. Perhaps the Minister of State can explain the reason. I am sure he has come across similar variations to those I have, where there is a variation in the spelling of the names. All I ask for is that some uniformity is brought into the system. This is a policy issue and if the Department does not take it on board, it is left to individual local authorities. Some of these are good, some very good and some not good enough. I hope the Minister of State will take the message back to the Minister that he should look again at the responsibilities of the Department in this regard, to ensure there is no variation in the spelling of place names across the country.

I will undertake to pass on the Senator's concerns to the Minister.

Garda Stations

I am grateful for the opportunity to raise this motion with regard to a district headquarter Garda station in my constituency, namely, Glenties Garda station, which has been a subject of much speculation over the past number of days following leaks from the Department that the decision may be to close this station as a district station and redeploy any of the additional staff there. Currently, there are between 30 and 40 gardaí working in the district station there, but some of these will be redeployed to the district stations of Milford and Ballyshannon. Milford is approximately 70 miles north east of Glenties and Ballyshannon is approximately 40 miles south of Glenties. As a result of the closure, some of the current six stations under the jurisdiction of Glenties Garda station — Glencolmcille, Carrick, Dungloe, Annagry, Bunbeg and Burtonport — would be left under the jurisdiction of the revised Milford sub-district and the rest under a new extended Ballyshannon sub-district. This would mean that the entire west of Donegal, virtually 90% of the Donegal Gaeltacht, would be left without a station and without the required manpower to deal with serious crime in those areas.

Donegal has been the subject of very serious crime over the past while, and over the past number of weeks in particular. I am very alarmed that this closure may happen, despite rural vandalism and crime. For example, this past weekend, a large number of sheep was stolen from a farm and a dog was mutilated as a result of individuals trying to break into a premises in the St. Johnston area of my constituency. The dog was in a small shed and was barking at the intruders and he was slashed in the throat to such an extent that the walls of the shed were covered in blood. This disgraceful attack on a defenceless and innocent animal illustrates the spiralling crime within the county.

In addition to crimes such as these, there is an ever-increasing presence of drug farms, one of which was found in Laghey in Donegal recently. Some men have been charged with that and we thank the Garda for their efforts in that regard. A car was stolen during the Donegal international rally at the weekend, a post office robbery took place in Bridgend last weekend, there have been a number of burglaries of holiday homes in the county and a number of homes of elderly people have been burgled over the past number of months. Today, sadly, we learned of the murder of a man in his 60s who lives in the Churchill area of County Donegal. The circumstances are not known at this stage, but the man was murdered in a rural part of the county. This must be reason enough to ensure that the current Garda resources available to rural areas of County Donegal are maintained.

I raise this issue tonight because people are living in fear, particularly in rural areas. Many people in my county this evening are worried, particularly elderly people. I have spoken to a number of them on the telephone today, as a result of the announcement of the murder which occurred in the past 24 hours. The Minister cannot in any way reduce Garda resources in west Donegal or any part of our county, given the close geographical connection with Northern Ireland. A total of 97% of the land mass of our county is connected to the North, and on the other side we are connected to the Atlantic Ocean, with all our ports and harbours. We have crime, we have the importation of drugs, and we have cross-Border crime as well. I hope the Minister of State has some reassuring news about this station for my constituents and the people of west Donegal in particular.

I am responding to this matter on behalf of the Minister for Justice and Equality, who sends his apologies. Unfortunately, as the Senator probably knows, he could not be here this evening, as he has not yet mastered the ability to bilocate. The Minister has asked me to thank the Senator for raising this matter, which provides him with an opportunity to address the position of the district headquarters status of Glenties Garda station. Glenties is a district headquarters in the Donegal division. The Garda strength, as of 31 May 2012 — the latest date for which figures are available — was 52 in the Glenties district, out of a total of 433 in the Donegal division. The division is supported by 24 Garda reserves and 29 civilians who provide administrative and technical support to members of the Garda Síochána. The House will be aware that towards the end of each year, the Commissioner prepares a policing plan for the following year. In the process, he reviews all aspects of the Garda Síochána's policing model, including the deployment of personnel, the utilisation of modern technologies and the operation of Garda stations in terms of opening hours and possible closures. In addition, all divisional officers are asked to assess the level of activity in each Garda station in their areas. It must be stressed that the key objective of this ongoing review is to promote the more efficient and effective deployment of resources rather than to secure specific cash savings. The policing plan for 2013 has not yet been prepared, and therefore it is not possible for the Minister to say at this stage what it may contain, although it is expected that it will contain measures to address the ongoing issue of rationalisation of the Garda station network.

Any such proposals must be seen in a particular context. The Garda Síochána, like every other public sector body, will have to manage with reduced resources. The House will be aware that under plans agreed by the previous Government as part of its compliance with the terms of the EU-IMF agreement, Garda numbers are to be reduced. However, that reduction is being accompanied by real reform being introduced under the Croke Park agreement, which was established as part of a strategic response to the economic crisis. The Croke Park agreement is playing a key role in reform across the public service. This programme includes the reform of structures, operations and processes in order to maintain services at the highest level possible while coping with reductions in numbers. New efficiencies must be introduced so that, even with reduced staffing levels, the best possible service continues to be provided to the public. This need for efficiency is what underlies the Commissioner's proposals to close some Garda stations in 2012. It was also a key driver in the development and introduction of new Garda rosters, new processes for making payments in the Garda Síochána and a new performance and accountability framework for members of the Garda.

The Garda Commissioner is responsible for the detailed allocation of resources. The resources available in the Donegal division, which I have already outlined, are further augmented by Garda national units such as the Garda National Drugs Unit, the Criminal Assets Bureau and other specialised units. Garda management will continue to closely monitor the allocation of resources, taking account of transfers and retirements, crime trends, policing needs and operational strategies on a district, divisional and regional level. The Donegal Garda division and the Glenties Garda district will be subject to the same level of monitoring and decision making to ensure that optimum use is made of Garda resources and the best possible Garda service is provided to the public. The Garda Commissioner has reiterated the commitment of the Garda Síochána to providing a professional and effective service to the community, and he has the full support of the Minister in this regard. Before I conclude I pay tribute, on behalf of the Minister, to the Garda Síochána for the commitment and the professionalism its members display in carrying out their duties.

I thank the Minister of State. I know she is not responsible for this Department or for the response she just gave, but the response was, to say the least, pitiful and shameful. It did not address in any way the concerns of people living in my area. We all know the Commissioner is responsible for detailed allocation of resources — there is nothing new in that — but the Commissioner can only deal with the resources he is given. Unfortunately, it appears that Garda stations are closing. Thirty-nine Garda stations in the State have closed over the last six months, of which three — or 8% — are in my own county. While crime is escalating because of the recession, the resources being made available to tackle that crime and protect people in their homes are not sufficient. I am not pointing the finger at the Minister of State, but if the Garda Commissioner is forced into a situation in which he must close Glenties Garda station, it is up to the Minister to provide the resources to ensure that station remains open, because it is on his head if crime escalates or if lives are lost as a result of those decisions to save a few euro. Yes, we are in difficult times, but ultimately we must protect our people. The Garda is doing an excellent job, but if one speaks to members of the force at the moment, they will say they are finding it very difficult.

The first priority of the Commissioner and the Minister is to ensure the safety of the citizen, and they are doing quite a good job in that respect. The Garda is doing an excellent job. I do not think the situation is as bleak as the Senator is painting it. I accept that he must make the argument, but I do not think it is as bad as he says. For Donegal as a whole, the resources are quite considerable, for the reasons the Senator has outlined. I cannot say for certain what will be in next year's budget in the area for which I am responsible, and I most definitely cannot guarantee a budget allocation in an area for which I am not responsible. We are in dire circumstances; the country has never been in this position before. We are trying to crawl our way out of it, and we are doing our very best.

The Seanad adjourned at 6.50 p.m. until 10.30 a.m. on Thursday, 21 June 2012.
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