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Seanad Éireann debate -
Thursday, 12 Dec 2013

Vol. 228 No. 6

Health Insurance (Amendment) Bill 2013: Second Stage

Question proposed: "That the Bill be now read a Second Time."

I am pleased to address the House on Second Stage of the Health Insurance (Amendment) Bill 2013. As Senators will be aware, the Bill passed through all stages in the Dáil recently. The main objective of the Bill is to specify the amount of risk equalisation credits in respect of age, gender and level of cover that is payable to insurers from the risk equalisation fund from 1 March 2014 and to make consequential amendments to the Stamp Duty Consolidation Act 1999 to revise the stamp duty levy required to fund the risk equalisation credits for 2014. In addition, I am amending the amount of the hospital bed utilisation credit, HBUC, and some technical amendments to the Health Insurance Acts are also included. I will further discuss the requirement for risk equalisation credits within our system of health insurance and the rationale used in setting the level of risk equalisation credits to apply from 1 March 2014 in due course but first, I would like to speak briefly about ongoing reform in the health system where the focus is to deliver a single-tier health service in which access is based on need and not on ability to pay.

The maintenance of a healthy and functioning private health insurance market is an essential step to facilitate the transition to a market-based universal health insurance, UHI, system and the measures provided in the Bill before the House today are a crucial element towards ensuring this objective. The introduction of UHI is, of itself, a complex and major undertaking that requires careful planning and sequencing over a number of years and I welcome the significant progress which has been made in recent months as follows. In February 2012, I established an implementation group on universal health insurance to advise on the development of detailed and costed implementation proposals for UHI and the implementation of various elements of the reform programme. The implementation group has met on 11 occasions and has advised the Department in respect of its work on some of the core building blocks for UHI, including the introduction of a money follows the patient funding system. A money follows the patient policy document was published earlier this year and provides for a fairer and more transparent means of funding health care. Preparations for the roll out of money follows the patient are ongoing. These preparations include a shadow funding exercise which is under way and detailed plans for the commencement of phased implementation of the new system in January 2014, which are in the process of being finalised. In addition, intensive work is currently under way on the preparation of a white paper on UHI, which will provide more detail on the UHI model for Ireland with a view to publication as soon as possible. I have received a draft.

While work is under way in respect of the key building blocks that will pave the way for the introduction of UHI, it is equally important to keep focus on the maintenance of a functioning voluntary private health insurance market in the lead-in to UHI. The measures contained in this Bill are designed to ensure that the overall market is supported by keeping health insurance as affordable as possible for everyone in line with the key principle of community rating which underpins our health insurance system. Community rating, reflecting the principle of inter-generational solidarity, is a fundamental cornerstone of the Irish health insurance market. Under community rating, everybody is charged the same premium for a particular health insurance plan, irrespective of age, gender and the current or likely health status. The aim of risk equalisation is to distribute fairly some of the differences that arise in insurers' costs due to the differing health status of all their customers. Risk equalisation aims to make health insurance more affordable for older people by supporting community-rated premiums.

There are four commercial insurers operating in the private health insurance market. However, there is a clear disparity in the membership profile and thus the associated costs being incurred across the various commercial insurers. Risk equalisation creates a level playing field in the market and provides for risk equalisation credits based on age, gender and level of cover in respect of insured people aged 50 and over. Under the Health Insurance Acts, the Health Insurance Authority which is the statutory regulator of the industry, makes recommendations to the Minister annually on the applicable rates for the following year. Having considered the expert analysis provided and having consulted with the Minister for Finance, I then set the rates for risk equalisation credit and the Minister for Finance sets the rate of stamp duty required to fund those credits. The benefits of our system of community rating can best be seen as supporting the market as a whole and ensuring that through the provision of risk equalisation credits for older and less healthy customers, they can be helped and supported to purchase health insurance at an affordable price. I wish now to focus for a moment on the specific changes made to the risk equalisation credits and corresponding stamp duties that will apply from 1 March next year.

I am committed to progressively increasing the extent to which risk equalisation compensates for the costs of insuring older customers. The Health Insurance Authority has determined that when luxury benefits are excluded, the revised risk equalisation credits will compensate for 78% of the higher claims costs of people in their 70s, which is up from 75% this year, and for 86% of the higher claims costs of those in their 80s, which is up from 83% this year. Compared with 2013 rates, the revised risk equalisation credits for products providing advanced cover are increased. In 2013, the risk equalisation rates for non-advanced cover were set at 85% of those for advanced. This year, I am reducing that differential to 72.4% - this reflects the sharing of cost in respect of ageing but not sharing all of the costs of richer benefits provided under advanced plans.

A critical element of risk equalisation is to ensure that it promotes efficiency. In its assessment of the required support levels, the Health Insurance Authority compares data across the market.

Using market average data means that an insurer with higher than market average claim costs will continue to lose out to its competitors and will therefore have a strong incentive to reduce its costs towards, or even below, the market average. In setting the rates for 2014, the net claims cost ceiling has been reduced from 140% to 133%. Before allowing for the impact of the scheme, the claims costs of older lives are considerably higher than the claims costs of younger lives. This gives insurers an incentive to target younger healthier people and push up prices for older people. We see this through advertisements focusing on young people and a proliferation of products in the market where the products with benefits appealing to older people, such as 100% orthopaedic cover, are far more expensive than those appealing to younger people.

The risk equalisation scheme is self-funding, in other words, the cost of credits is met by the stamp duties raised. In effect, the price of a health insurance premium payable by older individuals is discounted by the appropriate credit for their age, meaning that they actually pay the same price for the same product as a younger, healthier member. This is in keeping with my overall commitment to community rating in the first instance and to progressively increase the extent to which risk equalisation compensates for the costs of insuring older customers. Otherwise, health insurance would become prohibitively expensive for older customers, the majority of whom would be forced to leave the market at a time in their lives when they are likely to benefit from having it the most.

The stamp duty applicable for advanced plans is increased by €49, from €350 to €399 per adult, and from €120 to €135 per child to fund the targeting of support where it is needed most, namely, older and more vulnerable patients who would otherwise not be able to afford private health insurance. The availability of cheaper entry level products, in respect of which there is no increase in stamp duty, may encourage more young people into the market and others to remain in the market. Therefore, from the perspective of the market as a whole, this measure is intended to encourage sustainability.

The latest figures from the Health Insurance Authority show that just over 2 million people, or 44.6% of the population, have private health insurance. This figure has fallen over the last five years from a peak of 50.9% of the population in 2008. These figures underline the need for cost containment by insurers so that people can afford health insurance but they also demonstrate the importance for consumers of shopping around to get the best value for the coverage that they choose. I have urged insurers to do everything possible to keep down the cost of health insurance so that it is affordable for as many people as possible. I have also consistently raised the issue of costs with insurers and am determined to address costs in the sector in the interests of consumers.

Last July, I appointed an independent chairperson, Mr. Pat McLoughlin, to work with health insurers, my Department and the Health Insurance Authority to identify ways of achieving cost reductions in the private health insurance market. Mr. McLoughlin has just submitted his report under phase 1 of the review process and the contents are being examined by me and health insurers. The second phase of this review will commence immediately and will report within three months.

A range of lower cost plans is available from all four health insurers. It is quite possible for consumers to find the same level of cover in the market for a cheaper price. It is important to explore the full range of products now available on the market to avoid missing out on potential cost savings. I strongly advise consumers to research the market and check the options that are available to provide the same level of cover at a competitive rate. The HIA provides information to consumers regarding their rights and on health insurance plans and benefits. The HIA plays an important role for customers both in ensuring that they have accurate information and in enforcing the implementation of the law protecting consumers in relation to health insurance. The HIA's website, hia.ie, has a useful plan comparison tool to assist in finding suitable and competitive health insurance plans.

In terms of policy development it is valuable to set out a basic roadmap for risk equalisation for the next three years. In this context, I am committed to the following: at a minimum maintaining the current level of effectiveness by age group as measured against market average claim costs; adjusting the hospital bed utilisation credit as a proxy indicator of health status pending the introduction of a more refined measure, while ensuring that the rate never creates an incentive for unnecessary hospital stays; introducing a more refined measure of health status, such as through the use of diagnostic related groups; and incrementally increasing effectiveness over the period from 2014 to 2016 with a view to further increasing effectiveness to 85% for those over 70 years and 90% in respect of customers aged over 80 years. In line with existing legislation and other requirements, my policy aims are subject to the following critical requirements: annual expert current market analysis by the HIA; scheme rules relating to over-compensation as agreed under EU state aid approval; and a final decision on applicable risk equalisation rates, set by me in consultation with the Minister for Finance, in line with the governing legislation. The measures I am now introducing will continue to protect community rated health insurance, which is a vital part of our health system as we move to universal health insurance.

I now wish to outline the main provisions of the Health Insurance (Amendment) Bill 2013. Section 1 defines the Principal Act as the Health Insurance Act 1994. Section 2 amends the definition of "net premium" in section 2(1) of the Principal Act. Section 8 of the Finance (No 2) Bill 2013 introduces new ceilings on medical insurance premiums that will qualify for tax relief at €1,000 per adult and €500 per child. This has implications for the manner in which community rating is applied under the Health Insurance Acts. This amendment clarifies that community rating applies to the gross premium less any risk equalisation credits and excludes any applicable tax relief.

Section 3 amends section 6A of the Principal Act. This amendment includes a technical amendment to correct a reference; a consequential amendment to the definition of "hospital bed utilisation credit" from 1 January 2014 to reflect the enactment of section 55 of the Health Act 1970, whereby private patients will incur a hospital charge in respect of an overnight stay in a public bed; a consequential amendment to the definition of "relevant amount"; and deletion of the definition of "reasonable profit" at section 6A(2), a replacement definition for which is provided for in section 5.

Section 4 amends section 7AB of the Principal Act. For consistency, the timeframe by which a registered undertaking planning to vary benefits payable under a type of health insurance contract is required to notify the HIA is extended from 1 January to 1 March. This measure is in line with section 6.

Section 5 amends section 7F of the Principal Act. First, section 7F(1) is amended to provide an additional period of one month to 1 May for registered undertakings to fulfil the requirement to maintain and furnish information returns, including a statement of profit and loss and balance sheet to the Health Insurance Authority. This has the practical benefit of providing insurers with an additional month to finalise their preparations and is in line with the timeframes for similar returns under Central Bank requirements. In other words, they do not have to perform the same function twice, one month after the other.

Under section 7F(4) of the Act, an overcompensated registered undertaking is required to make a payment to the risk equalisation fund if it has made more than reasonable profit. The HIA carries out the overcompensation test on a three year rolling basis as provided for in the legislation. This amendment specifies that the HIA will take what would constitute reasonable profit for a registered undertaking in respect of its relevant health insurance business as a return on equity not exceeding 12% per annum on a rolling three year basis using approved accounting standards and having regard to the European Union framework for state aid in the form of public service compensation. A registered undertaking is not deemed to have made a profit in excess of reasonable profit if its return on equity exceeds 12% per annum in respect of that business for part of the three year period but not for all of that period. Further, it defines "relevant health insurance business in the State" as "all of the undertakings health insurance business in the State" and treats return on equity in the case of a registered undertaking or former registered undertaking established otherwise than under the Companies Act as the equivalent, using approved accounting standards, of a return on equity of a registered undertaking which is a company established under those Acts.

Section 6 amends section 7H of the principal Act. Registered undertakings provide premium information to policy holders in the renewal notice or statement issued. This amendment provides that the renewal notice clearly shows, in addition to the gross premium before risk equalisation credits and after any credits that may apply, the premium payable by the insured member net of tax relief at source following recent changes to the limit of relievable amount of premium available under the Taxes Consolidation Act introduced in the Finance Bill.

Section 7 amends section 11C of the principal Act to provide for 1 March 2014 as the effective date for revised risk equalisation credits to be payable from the fund. Section 8 amends section 11E of the principal Act. This amendment provides that where the HIA is satisfied that a "changed existing contract" is now a contract which it classifies as now providing non-advanced cover, it will make regulations accordingly. Where the HIA is satisfied that a "changed existing contract" now provides advanced cover, the HIA will amend the relevant specification. In addition, provision is made for the HIA to review any evaluation and analysis of sample types of contracts and where an error occurred in the classification of a product, the HIA will amend regulations and the register of health insurance contracts accordingly.

Section 9 amends the reference on Schedule 2 to the principal Act. This is a consequential technical amendment to change the reference on the schedule to section 7F from section 6A. Section 10 amends Schedule 3 to the principal Act to provide that the revised amount payable from the risk equalisation fund, REF, in respect of the hospital bed utilisation credit will decrease to €60 in respect of health insurance contracts renewed or entered into from 1 March 2014 and confirms that the specified rate for the hospital bed utilisation credit for contracts entered into after 31 March 2013 remains at the higher rate of €75.

Section 11 replaces table 2 in Schedule 4 to the principal Act. With effect from 1 March 2014 the applicable risk equalisation credits payable from the REF in respect of certain classes of insured persons are revised. Section 12 amends section 125A of the Stamp Duties Act 1999. This amendment specifies the accounting periods as "3 consecutive months beginning 1 January, 1 April, 1 July or 1 October." It defines the due date for returns to the Revenue Commissioners as the 21st day of the second month after the end of an accounting period. It then specifies the applicable stamp duty rates for 1 January to 28 February 2014 and 1 March 2014 onwards. Finally, it deletes subsection (2A) in each place. Section 13 provides for the short title, collective citation and construction of the Bill.

I thank the Senators for their attention and I commend this Bill to the House.

I welcome the Minister to the House. We will not support the Health Insurance (Amendment) Bill 2013. While we fully support the concept of risk equalisation and community rating, these policies will not work if we continue to undermine health insurance at every step. The market is becoming more unbalanced, as we have seen, with approximately 280,000, arguably younger and healthier, people leaving the market. That continues at a rate of approximately 5,000 per month. More of the under-50 age cohort are dropping out, thereby increasing the levy required for risk-equalisation.

Government policy on this is incoherent in terms of health insurance policies, such as the capping of tax relief. The Minister for Finance, Deputy Noonan, spoke on that earlier in our debate on the Finance (No. 2) Bill. The redesignation of hospital beds will arguably force more young people to quit, which will further exacerbate the imbalance in the market. I have substantially reduced the level of cover that my family of five has because of the cost. It was no longer affordable to continue with the levels we had, and we did not have a gold-plated policy, as the Minister for Finance, Deputy Noonan liked to call them.

The budget relief cut and the levy hike is expected to add €330 to the annual cost for two adults and two children. That applies to my family, although I have three children, and I do not know whether I can afford to continue with the insurance. Thankfully we are a relatively healthy family. It is possible that this time next year I will not be in the health insurance market and there will be an increased burden as a result because the relatively younger, healthier people will no longer be there to cross-subsidise those in the autumn of their lives requiring more health cover. At the same time we have taken medical cards from 55,000 over-70s over the last two budgets. More of them will presumably need to take out health insurance and will increase demand. This triple whammy will make the market even more unbalanced and will mean the Minister will be back here next year with another levy hike. It is a vicious circle.

The Minister mentioned the HIA a number of times and its report is due on Monday or Tuesday of next week. I do not know whether the Minister already knows what is in that and was able to draft this legislation accordingly. Last year the HIA made a series of recommendations to the Minister on what could be done to try to entice younger, healthier people into the health insurance market and he has done none of those things. I wonder why. He did the opposite. He increased certain things the HIA had recommended he decrease. Will the Minister act on any new recommendations in next week's report? The point was made in the other House when this was being discussed that we should have waited until the HIA report was published before debating this legislation. Again, the Minister may already be aware of what is in that report but the rest of us are not.

In the absence of the HIA report and in view of the cap on tax relief being reduced, we are unable to support this Bill. We have seen no indication of any effort or initiatives over the last number of years to get younger people into the market. I have grave concern that the Minister will be back next year to further increase this. With 5,000 people per month leaving he will have no option unless something is done to entice people into the market. The haemorrhaging of younger, healthier policy holders threatens the sustainability of the market and puts huge upward pressure on the likes of myself, as an example, and anybody who has private health insurance.

The debate in the Dáil has a lot of "remember what you said" in it. The transformation of people's opinion on these issues is interesting, particularly the Minister's opinion when, as Opposition spokesman, he spoke of not recommending the Bill going through the House at that time, how he was vehemently opposed to it, it was ill-advised and would put more pressure on our already pressurised health system. Those were all the Minister's words when we were imposing a levy of €160. This Bill will authorise a €399 levy. On that occasion, in what was a very good performance from the Opposition benches, the Minister proclaimed it to be the last straw that broke the camel's back.

One wonders how the mind has evolved since in the Minister's approach to this issue.

I could support the Bill if it contained tangible initiatives to encourage young people to enter the health insurance market, but, unfortunately, it reflects an acceptance that the policy is not working. The levy, therefore, will be ratcheted up and between 5,000 and 6,000 people like me a month will exit the market, which is not sustainable. This is many millions of miles way from the Minister's UHI vision.

I welcome the Minister. It is always difficult to introduce changes such as this, but we must respond to what the market requires and provide equal access to health insurance. This is, unfortunately, the way it has to be dealt with. More than 530,000 people are aged over 65 years, many of whom, thankfully, have health insurance. That cohort will continue to increase in the coming years and it is estimated that 900,000 will be in this category by 2030; therefore, we must engage in careful planning in this regard. The long-term plan for the health service will take a number of years to implement and the Government is working on it. In the meantime, the Minister must deal with the market as it stands.

VHI has 89% of the over 80s market. It is interesting that the number of people in this age category has increased dramatically in recent years, with an increase of 20% in the past six years alone. That reflects how the market is changing and the Minister has to introduce legislation to make sure people have equality of access and that there is an equal health insurance contribution.

The cost of health care went unchecked for a long period. The Government parties have made a significant effort in the past two and a half years to address increasing costs in health care and that effort will continue. It is not easy, but we need to achieve greater efficiencies. In the past few weeks an area was highlighted in which there was still no scrutiny. The Minister and the HSE are dealing with this issue of the 25% of the health budget going to non-Department and non-HSE controlled organisations. It is being tackled to make sure taxpayer's money is used in a proper manner. In fairness, the vast majority of organisations provide a good service in the areas in which they specialise and comply in full with the regulations, but a few have not and the Minister and the HSE are right to scrutinise them to ensure moneys are not being used for a different purpose than was intended.

The health insurance market is under pressure and the numbers who have cover have decreased, but the only way to reverse the trend is by improving the economic outlook and getting more people back to work. The Government has succeeded in reversing job losses. At one point, more than 7,000 people a month were losing their jobs, whereas now almost 5,000 new jobs a month are being created. There are 58,000 more people at work than at this time last year and I hope that number will continue to improve in the next 12 months. This will help people to return to the health insurance market. The level of health insurance coverage has reduced from 50% of the population to 44%, a substantial reduction, but given the pressure people have come under financially, it is good that many of them have been doing everything possible to stay in the market. That should be encouraged.

In dealing with the health service it must be ensured the insurance companies carrying the older age cohorts are not penalised. The demands they place on health services are greater than those of younger people, which is why the adjustment is being made. The Bill is comprehensive in that it sets out clearly what the strategy is for the next three years. This is important to provide security.

Further efficiencies will have to be generated in the health service and we must continue to work towards reducing the cost of medical care. A major change in the cost of drugs was introduced in the past year. Payments for drugs had increased from €570 million to more than €2.3 billion annually. The Minister introduced legislation to deal with the use of generic drugs because only 18% of drugs prescribed were generic, whereas in other countries the figure was as high as 70%. In addition, the cost of drugs was much higher than in other countries and changes are being made in this regard. This can contribute huge savings also. By tackling these issues, the cost of health care can be reduced and I hope more people will then re-enter the health insurance market and the cost of insurance will not increase. That is the long-term plan we want to work towards. This legislation is a step that must be taken at this stage to stabilise the cost of insurance and make sure the companies providing insurance cover, especially for older age cohorts, can continue to provide the requisite level of care. I support the Bill.

I welcome the Minister as always. He has the hardest job in public life and Senator John Crown and I try to help him in any way we can. However, Senator John Crown is away. We strongly support the Minister's efforts to counteract tobacco use and wish him well in that regard. The G8 chose dementia as its topic of consultation and perhaps we might have a debate on it in the new year. Reference was made to physiotherapy for the mind. The Minister, as a medical professional, is much better positioned to debate that issue than I am.

The problem we face was graphically illustrated by the Minister for Finance two hours ago. Health insurance costs have increased by 86% in four years, which is why he had to reduce tax relief in this regard. He said it was costing €500 million annually and rapidly heading towards €1 billion. I support everything the Minister for Health said about the need for cost containment and I am delighted he appointed Mr. Pat McLoughlin. We might debate the substance of his report also in the new year because what he has attempted to do is important. We cannot bear the rate at which costs are increasing. According to a most useful document the Department produces, approximately 11% of gross national income is spent on health care and the only country in which the figure is substantially in excess of this is the United States. We have a high cost problem which is reflected in the cost of health insurance.

I downloaded a document from the website of the Congressional Budget Office in the United States entitled, "Is This Time Different? The Slowdown in Healthcare Spending". We are at a figure of 86% and in the United States which we always thought had the high cost model a slowdown is being discussed.

Another paper from the Congressional Budget Office is entitled "Why has Growth in Spending for Fee-for-service Medicare Slowed?" I never believed in the old medical inflation cliché. The cliché seems to be coming to an end in the United States. How did we end up with the 86% increase the Minister for Finance, Deputy Noonan, told us about?

I support what the Minister said in his speech. I ask people to switch. Locking oneself into a high cost system and then requiring bailout by the taxpayer is counterproductive from everyone's point of view. People, including the old, should switch. Some of the competing companies will say that they never refuse to recruit older people. It was a mythology invented so that the State could back up its insurance company, VHI, because it has most of the old people. Competing companies say they never refused customers so I wonder why old people have not switched. A new entrant could then generate some of the efficiencies on drugs spoken about by Senator Colm Burke. This is contained in the Milliman report.

A new entrant can insure old people and young people for less than the previous monopolist in the field. When the Milliman report looked at the dominant health insurance company, it saw major efficiency possibilities. One of them is addressed in page 31, which lists the average length of stay for medical inpatient admissions. It is 3.7 days by world standards and 10.6 days in Ireland. Throughout the report, the finding is that not enough has been invested in utilisation management and investing in ways to manage claims that can yield savings, regardless of the risk profile of the population. It refers to unnecessary medication and the extra days spent in hospital.

The amendment I tabled to the Finance Bill, when we discussed the tax break, concerned whether HIQA might do this job for the Minister. The Minister mentioned the diagnostic related group, DRG, but HIQA could say its estimate is that a procedure should have been done in 3.7 days, not 10.6 days. A crucial point in the report, which is grist to the mill of the Minister, refers to push back by consultants following previous attempts to reduce the high and rapidly escalating cost of health services in this country. There is plenty of evidence in the executive summary of the Milliman report, on page 31 and at the end that we have a high-cost health service that is being refinanced by an uncompetitive health insurance business. The result is that a couple of hundred thousand people have left, directly contradicting the Minister's goal and the Government's goal of universal health insurance. We are going further away from the target. The Minister can use regulatory agencies, in the form of the HIA, in order to extract these gains. I know the Minister's power of advocacy on behalf of efficiency gains but it is an extremely high-cost system. The Milliman report refers to unnecessary hospitalisation and average hospital stays far in excess of other countries.

The health insurance sector has no interest in extracting monopoly rents and high costs from the Irish health care system. I asked the Minister for Finance whether the tax break was an industry subsidy or a subsidy to sick people. Where costs rise to absorb all of the subsidies, we are rewarding the producers. The cost base has to be tackled and I support the Minister strongly.

There should be open enrolment and lifetime cover. It should not be a requirement for people to state what age they are. That is one way to prevent age discrimination although they might need age information for records. Previous medical conditions should not be known either, unless we can judge from the writing on the application form that the person is sick. There should be completely open enrolment, lifetime cover and community rating but in a competitive market. The Department has been historically bound up with defending the VHI from competition and we have ended up with an incredibly high-cost system. It has not tackled the producers. It is strongly stated in the Milliman report that the culture of the VHI was to issue statements saying how many old people it had rather than confronting the high cost of the product in Ireland. Until we confront that, we will face another 86% rise in these next four years. I share the concerns of the Minister for Finance on those matters. I will table amendments on Committee Stage.

The cost base problem was not tackled historically. Having the leading health insurance company oblivious to costs allows other companies to make supernormal profits. I want them to go into hospitals, extract efficiency gains and pass them on to consumers. I will frame amendments with that in mind.

I welcome the Minister to the Chamber to debate legislation that has passed all Stages in the other House. I watched the debate with some interest but it took me a little while to assimilate the necessity for the Bill. It is technical and complex legislation. When I gave it a lot of thought, I realised it is a fundamental part of the transition to the universal health insurance system we have long awaited and hoped for. The Minister's colleague, Deputy Alex White, talked about medical cards during the week and he has often talked about the building blocks required in advance of establishing the long-awaited reforms of the health system. Nothing is as complex as the health system. The role of setting the rate of stamp duty involves the Minister for Finance along with the Minister for Health, which demonstrates the level of complexity.

Policy change in one area automatically leads to policy change in other areas so that we can have a coherent policy across all areas. Risk equalisation and community rating are the core issues at stake. How we achieve them is the fundamental part of social democracy and we are all social democrats. The rising cost of health insurance is the bugbear of everyone and we must balance access to affordable health insurance with a need for equity in access to health services. The current system is the cause of the two-tier health system. Access to health must be based on medical need not on the depth of one's pockets. While I welcome this aspect of it, we have a long way to go.

Second Stage of any Bill is time to ask whether the legislation is good. I think this Bill is good and it is something we can support. I hope everyone can support it. Senator Barrett referred to cost containment and how he would like to see efficiency achieved in hospitals. This also applies to how health insurance companies do their business. One example concerns a woman whose 15-year-old son developed chest pains while playing a match. He could not play until he had the problem sorted out. On the public system, it would take 12 months to get an appointment to see a cardiologist. Because they had a health insurance plan, they decided to go privately and went to a private hospital in Dublin. The minor surgical procedure required a two-night stay before being discharged, being admitted the night before and discharged the day after the procedure.

She showed me the bill which was for €17,000. It was shocking at every level. It was also shocking that when she telephoned VHI, her service provider, it could not adequately explain the reason for such a bill. One might even have said it was excessive at €1,700. Is it not strange that people feel they have to go to politicians? Is there not something wrong with the system when a member of the public must go to her local Senator to explain something rather than her health insurer? Is it any wonder Senator Marc MacSharry is complaining that the cost of his health insurance is becoming so exorbitant that he will not be able to afford to pay it next year?

Is there any mechanism, as Senator Sean D. Barrett asked, to ascertain whether health insurance companies are getting good value in the private sector? I would be all in favour of health insurance companies paying as much money as possible to the public sector, but we are looking at exorbitant prices which are being passed on to customers. Is it any wonder that we see super profits about which Senator Sean D. Barrett talked? I am happy to see section 7(4) introducing a requirement to make a payment into the risk equalisation fund if a company has made more than a reasonable profit. That is progressive. It is a big change in many policy areas, not only in health but other areas also.

I look forward to teasing out these and other issues on Committee Stage. Obviously, we support the Bill, but there are many questions I would like to ask on Committee Stage which would be more appropriate than loading the Minister with many technical questions to which no doubt he does not have the answers now. However, I might not be in a position to assimilate these answers.

Cuirim fáilte roimh an Aire. Cé go bhfuilimid ag tacú leis an mBille, tá roinnt deacrachtaí againn leis an treo ginearálta ina bhfuil cúrsaí sláinte ag dul ó thaobh na polasaithe éagsúla. Déanfaidh mé soiléiriú ar sin.

This Bill is a follow-on from the Health Insurance (Amendment) Act 2012, very important legislation which significantly updated the regulatory regime for the health insurance sector in the State. The 2012 Act introduced a permanent risk equalisation scheme from 1 January 2013. That scheme makes possible the scheme of community rating which ensures all consumers are charged the same premium for a particular health insurance plan, regardless of age, gender or health status, thus preventing price discrimination against those more likely to require medical treatment.

The Health Insurance (Amendment) Bill 2013 has as its main purpose specifying the amount of the hospital bed utilisation credit and the amount of risk equalisation credits in respect of age, gender and level of cover payable to insurers from the risk equalisation fund from 1 March 2014. Sinn Féin has consistently argued that as long as we have the type of health insurance market and health funding system in place in the State, the regulatory regime provided for in the Bill will be necessary. It involves a complex system of risk equalisation to support the community rating principle. This entails the transfer of compensation from insurers which carry lighter risk burdens to those which carry heavier risk burdens. All of this requires regulation, monitoring, enforcement and penalties for infringements. Without such legislation, the unregulated market would discriminate against the old and the sick or any other group or individual insurance companies decided were a greater risk. This legislation is, therefore, supposed to be protection against the working out of the raw profit motive in the health insurance sector. It is supposed to be based on solidarity between generations and between the healthy and those who do not enjoy good health. This is welcome in so far as it goes, but Sinn Féin would go much further, extending the principle of solidarity to the way we fund, organise, structure and manage the entire health care system.

The cost of health insurance premiums is rising and there is real concern this legislation will inevitably lead to further rises by as much as 15%. The Minister stated it is up to insurers to decide their own pricing plans and insurers can reduce their outgoings under the scheme by taking on a fairer share of older customers, but he admits this is not happening. That is clearly the case. As has been stated, VHI holds 89% of the market share of those aged over 80 compared to only 6% held by Aviva and Laya Healthcare. For the 70 to 79 year age group, the equivalent figures are 78% for VHI and 9% and 12% for the others, respectively. Clearly, this is not sustainable.

The option of health insurance has become a luxury that is no longer affordable for many thousands who previously held it. In 2008, 2.3 million people had private health insurance. In 2012 this figure had dropped to 2.1 million; more than 60,000 people dispensed with private health insurance in that year alone. Those who have dispensed with health insurance because they can no longer afford it are dependent on the public health system that is under attack from the Government's failed austerity strategy which it happily embraced when it took over from the previous Government.

The State continues to heavily subsidise the private for-profit health system with private beds in public hospitals, a fast-track to care for private patients, while public waiting lists grow, and the dual working of hospital consultants in the public and private sectors. The Minister claims the Government is making progress towards its ultimate goal, which he describes as a single tier patient-centred system of universal health care for all. However, this is to be achieved by a market-based universal health insurance system, which is where the big gap presents. According to the Minister, the maintenance of a healthy and functioning private health insurance market is an essential step in the transition to this goal. The Bill is, presumably, one of the steps he deems necessary in this transition. The Government wants to move to an entirely health insurance-based system of funding in managing and delivering health care.

Like its 2012 predecessor, the Bill is based on the recognition that there must be social solidarity within the insurance sector. In that context, why will the Minister not extend social solidarity across the entire health care system? If one takes the concept of solidarity to its logical conclusion, one will move to a system of universal provision of health care based on need alone, not ability to pay. The question that arises is how to pay for such a system to ensure the best possible care for all who need it and achieve the best value for money. The Government is proposing to introduce universal health insurance, with the State subsidising those who cannot afford to pay insurance premiums. The State will still have a huge regulatory, managerial and funding role. Why then give private for-profit insurance companies such a central place in the system? What contribution will they make? They are funded by the consumers who buy their products. The insurance companies, on behalf of policyholders, will buy services from private or public hospitals or other service providers. In addition, they will have to make a substantial profit in the process in order to satisfy both their hunger for such profit and the interests of their respective shareholders. The Minister has recognised the failure of the insurance companies to reduce their outgoings and address their cost base. Why not cut out private profiteering from the entire equation and retain the money in the health system and any surplus thereafter in the pockets of citizens?

The Government should re-examine its position. People's ill health, the requirement to provide health care and the protections necessary are not the basis on which profits should be made. The bottom line for citizens is that when they need health care, they need it promptly. They also require the best care possible.

I thank all those Senators who contributed to the debate. This is important legislation to underpin the principle of community rating, on which both sides of the House agree. Senator Sean D. Barrett mentioned not asking the age of customers applying for insurance. Unfortunately, to assess them for risk equalisation credits, we have to know their age, but I take in good stead what the Senator is implying in adopting that approach.

In regard to insurers which state they never turn away older customers, there are many ways to segment the market and discourage older people. Let us go through the figures which are interesting and which I stated on radio. Aviva Health has 17% of the market, yet it only has 6% of the over 80s cohort and 9% of the 70 to 79 year cohort. One would expect it to have three times as many of the over 80s and twice as many of those aged between 70 and 79 years. Laya Healthcare has 22% of the market. Therefore, one would expect it to have 22% of the over 80s, but it has only 6%.

One would expect it to have 22% of those aged 70 to 79 but it has only 12%. I am sure the Senator would agree that these things do not happen by accident. The VHI, on the other hand, has 56% of the market and one would expect it, therefore, to have 56% of those over 80. It actually has 89% of those over 80. With 56% of the market, one would expect it to have 56% of the 70 to 79 year olds but it has 78% of that age cohort. It is very clear from their marketing campaigns that insurers can find ways of discouraging older people from joining and can create products that are attractive to younger people, thus encouraging more of them to join their companies. I would also point out that having 256 products on the market, plus another eight, giving a total of 264, is designed, in my view, to confuse the market and confuse customers. There is no need for that number of different policies to be out in the marketplace.

The other question to ask is what is going on in our private health care system? We have seen a reduction, year on year, of up to 60,000 customers and yet we have seen an incessant rise in both the cost and number of claims per person. Another startling issue is that of medical inflation. If my memory is correct, medical inflation has been at 9% per annum on average, when from 2008 until now general inflation has been at certain times negative and, at most, 3%. The average rate of general inflation over that period is 0.3%. There is no justification for this. The reality behind it is the failure of the insurance companies to tackle the cost of private health care. They have failed to undertake proper auditing. The VHI started auditing last year and one private hospital in this country found itself paying back €5 million. All of the other private hospitals will be similarly audited.

There has been no clinical auditing at all, which is astonishing. Clinical audits involve checking whether tests carried out were actually necessary. One company, when challenged on this, said it had four personnel to deal with this issue. It had four nurses to do this work and, no disrespect to the nursing profession, but I do not think it is fair to ask a nurse to challenge a cardiologist on why a test was done. It is not even fair to ask a GP or surgeon to do that. The only person fit to challenge a cardiologist is another cardiologist and the only person fit to challenge a surgeon is another surgeon. The insurance companies need to employ these people to carry out proper clinical audits. What has been going on in some instances is just outrageous, with one person earning €1 million from the VHI in a single year. That indicates, in the clearest possible way, that we are paying far too much for medical procedures. No bench marking has been done and there is no ongoing review of what it takes to carry out these procedures, even when they are necessary. In many instances, the procedures are necessary but the controls have not been put in place and the methodology for paying people has not been reassessed in any meaningful way. Some procedures used to take two hours but now only take 20 minutes but we are still paying the same money for them. That is not acceptable. All of these issues must be addressed and will be in 2014 as contracts which have been in place for the last two or three years come up for renewal. That must be done. However, that is not the purpose of the Bill before us today.

This Bill is very important in terms of its capacity to support the market, to allow people to remain in the market and to encourage older people to continue in the market. Lifetime community rating is something that we are going to consider. Why should someone at the age of 60 who decides to take out health insurance have the same premium as somebody who has been insured for the previous 30 years? That is something we are going to look at. We are exploring, through Patrick McLoughlin's report, other methods of encouraging younger people back into the market. I will not delay the House. I believe this Bill is very important and will help to underpin the market. It will assist older people and those who are less well to stay in the market by being subsidised by those who are younger and healthier, which is what, in fairness, many of the people who are older now did for the previous generation. I commend the Bill to the House and look forward to the support of Senators.

Question put:
The Seanad divided: Tá, 22; Níl, 9.

  • Brennan, Terry.
  • Burke, Colm.
  • Coghlan, Eamonn.
  • Coghlan, Paul.
  • Comiskey, Michael.
  • Conway, Martin.
  • Cummins, Maurice.
  • D'Arcy, Jim.
  • D'Arcy, Michael.
  • Gilroy, John.
  • Hayden, Aideen.
  • Higgins, Lorraine.
  • Keane, Cáit.
  • Landy, Denis.
  • Moran, Mary.
  • Mulcahy, Tony.
  • Mullins, Michael.
  • Naughton, Hildegarde.
  • Ó Clochartaigh, Trevor.
  • O'Keeffe, Susan.
  • O'Neill, Pat.
  • van Turnhout, Jillian.

Níl

  • Barrett, Sean D.
  • Byrne, Thomas.
  • Daly, Mark.
  • MacSharry, Marc.
  • Ó Domhnaill, Brian.
  • Ó Murchú, Labhrás.
  • O'Brien, Darragh.
  • Power, Averil.
  • Wilson, Diarmuid.
Tellers: Tá, Senators Paul Coghlan and Aideen Hayden; Níl, Senators Marc MacSharry and Diarmuid Wilson.
Question declared carried.

When is it proposed to sit again?

At 2 p.m. next Monday.

Is that agreed?

Question, "That the House stand adjourned until 2 p.m. on Monday, 16 December 2013", put and declared carried.
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