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Seanad Éireann debate -
Wednesday, 16 Nov 2016

Vol. 248 No. 7

Commencement Matters

Value for Money Reviews

I welcome the Minister of State to the House. I conducted a survey of five local authorities over the summer and received interesting responses. I sought information on what the top ten companies in each local authority area were paying in commercial rates. In the Cork County Council area, the top ten companies were paying €27 million in commercial rates, while in Dublin the figure was €67 million. A lot of money is being paid to local authorities by way of commercial rates. In the Galway City Council area, the total was €4 million, in the Limerick City and County Council area, the total was €12 million.

My Commencement matter is concerned with whether we are getting value for money from our local authorities. There is a huge variation in the average rates of payment. In Cork county the average is €11,647, in Cork city it is €10,894, in Dublin it is €15,223, in Galway it is €9,929 and in Limerick it is over €11,000. Has the Department, in the last ten or 15 years, carried out an assessment of the amount of money it is costing to run individual local authorities, the number of staff employed, the services being provided and the value for money being obtained? If not, is it not time to conduct such a review to determine how we can make our local authorities more efficient and improve the services provided by them? This is particularly important now, given the huge demands in terms of providing housing. There is a need to ensure that once local authority houses become vacant, they are turned around in a timely manner. That was a source of many complaints in the recent past. We must also ensure that the maintenance of local authority housing is efficient and cost effective. Other areas of responsibility include roads, drainage and many other services and it is about time we had a review to see how we can help our local authorities. It is important that support is provided to them by central government. That is the context in which I have raised this Commencement matter and I look forward to the Minister of State's response.

I thank Senator Colm Burke for raising this matter this morning. Local authorities are under statutory obligation to levy rates on any property used for commercial purposes in accordance with the details entered into the valuation list prepared by the independent Commissioner of Valuation pursuant to the Valuation Act 2001. Rates income data are published by the local authorities in their annual financial statements, which are published as a matter of course on local authority websites.

The latest year for which complete audited local authority annual financial statement data are available is 2014. Each year, my Department publishes a consolidated local authority financial statement outturn which can be accessed on my Department's website. The total amount of rates collected by local authorities in 2014 was €1.325 billion. A breakdown of commercial rates collected by local authority for 2014 is set out in the local government audit service's publication, Overview of the Work of the Local Government Auditors 2016, which is also published on my Department's website.

Work on the auditing of local authority annual financial statements for 2015 by the local government audit service is ongoing. Rates income is a very important contribution to the cost of services provided by local authorities such as roads, public lighting, development control, parks and open spaces, all essential elements to create the environment in which businesses can prosper. The local government audit service provides independent scrutiny of the financial stewardship of local authorities. The local government audit service carries out audits of local authorities and other bodies in accordance with its code of practice, thereby fostering the highest standards of financial stewardship, governance and public accountability. The audit service also promotes the achievement of value for money in local authorities by undertaking value for money studies and publishing reports thereon. The value for money unit of the local government audit service has carried out a number of studies over the years into the value for money of various local authority activities.

The national oversight and audit commission, NOAC, was established in July 2014 under the Local Government Reform Act to provide independent oversight of the local government sector. Its functions are wide-ranging, involving the scrutiny of performance generally, and financial performance specifically, supporting best practice, overseeing implementation of national local government policy, monitoring and evaluating implementation of corporate plans, adherence to service level agreements and public service reform by local government bodies. The NOAC reports, published in 2016, include the local authority performance indicators and public spending code quality assurance reports for 2015, the rates collection report, the financial performance of local authorities 2013-2015 and a review of local authority performance of the functions under the private rented houses regulations.

The information about the publication of the report is interesting but there has been no public debate on it and maybe it is time we had one. We could look at how to further improve the services provided by local authorities and what we should be doing for ratepayers. The Minister of State said the total rates for 2014 were €1.325 billion, which is a lot of local taxation. The public does not recognise that this is being paid by companies, with anything between €1,000 for a small shop and €25 million per year by big companies. The public does not have this information about how councils are benefitting from businesses at local level and maybe the Department could provide that information.

It would be worthwhile for this House, or a committee of the House, to have a debate on rates and the value of the contribution from business. It would be relevant in the context of the debate we will be having in the months ahead on water and other charges. In addition to the national arrangements I have outlined, there will be plenty of opportunity for reports to collect and analyse data and it is important to highlight the role of elected members of each local authority. As well as setting the level of commercial rates to be levied, as part of the annual local authority budget process councillors have an important role in overseeing the work of the council executive in running their local authority. It is vital that elected members in individual local authorities use the powers available to them in this regard as this provides a mechanism for oversight at a local level where the local circumstances of individual local authorities can be taken into account. There are a lot of reports that need to be debated, locally and nationally, and maybe the Seanad could feed into that debate.

Shannon Airport Facilities

As the Minister will be aware, a human rights catastrophe is unfolding in Yemen, a catastrophe aided and abetted by the US Government. Much outrage has been expressed about the slaughter in Syria and Iraq but very little about the daily bombing in Yemen where thousands have perished since Saudi Arabia and its allies began an air campaign a year and a half ago. Nor has there been much public criticism of American aid to the campaign.

Yemen was plunged into civil war in 2014 when Houthi rebels ousted the Saudi backed dictator Abdrabbuh Mansur Hadi. Saudi leaders commenced a military drive to defeat the rebels and reinstal Hadi as President. The Saudi bombing campaign began in March 2015 and Saudi Arabia has intentionally targeted numerous homes, factories, markets, schools and hospitals. The methods used by Saudi Arabia very likely constitute war crimes against the civilian Yemeni population, blowing up funerals, prisons and hospitals, slaughtering men, women and children. Amnesty International has called on the US to halt the shipping of weapons that are being used in the Yemen war, citing data that a confirmed US-made explosive was used in an attack on a Yemeni hospital on 15 August. The medical facility, Abs hospital, run by Médecins sans Frontières, was hit by a strike that left 11 people dead and 19 others injured. I know the Minister will agree that any attack on a medical facility in a war zone is an affront to humanity. Fragments from US-made MK82 guided bombs have also been found at a site of a Saudi bombing of a community hall, where 140 people were killed and over 500 injured. The ITV news correspondent, Neil Connery, has verified this and there are other examples I can cite if required.

The world knows the key role the US is playing in this war. Indeed, the US has supplied Saudi Arabia with more that €20 billion worth of weapons during its Yemen campaign. We also know the US has flown missions for Saudi aircraft and supplied Saudi Arabia with weapons and targeted intelligence and is, therefore, complicit in Saudi Arabia's atrocities by any normal definition. Is the Government of which the Minister is part also complicit? Despite numerous requests the Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade will not provide any information about the US military planes that use Shannon. Shannonwatch has been keeping its own watch for many years and its figures show a significant increase in the numbers that passed through in September. We know that the US military is the main supplier of mid-air refuelling planes for the Saudis with regard to this war and we know that an increased number of mid-air refuellers have passed through Shannon this summer. A large number of contracted US troop carriers and cargo planes have passed through Shannon, which have been granted permits to take weapons through the airport by the Minister's Department. Omni Air International has been a regular carrier and we know from flight records that one destination for recent flights in September was Al-Udeid air base in Qatar. This is the main headquarters for the Qatari airforce that, along with Saudi Arabia, has been bombing and killing innocent Yemeni civilians. It also serves as a logistics command and hub for US operations in Afghanistan and Iraq. Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria and now Yemen - civilian life has disintegrated in those places yet the Government and the Department pretend it is nothing to do with us.

Let us join the dots on this. We know that Saudi Arabia is guilty of heinous war crimes and that the US military has supplied the weaponry for these war crimes. We know that the US military use Shannon as, in the words of Tom Clonan, a "forward base" in the prosecution of all these wars. We know from flight records that military flights from Shannon have gone to a key military airport engaged in the Yemen conflict. Is our Government, by extension, guilty of war crimes? I believe this is the case. There was a commitment in the last programme for Government to enforce a prohibition on the use of Irish airspace, airports and related facilities for purposes not in line with international law. Why is it not enforcing it? How can the Government be certain that US planes travelling from Shannon are not being used to aid Saudi Arabia without searching the planes? What does the Minister have to say about the US role in the slaughter of Yemeni citizens? Is the Government really going to turn a blind eye again?

The Minister for Foreign Affairs and Trade, Deputy Charles Flanagan, sends his apologies as he cannot be here today. On 6 July this year, when the Senator raised the issue of the US military aircraft landing at Shannon Airport, the Minister informed this House that the Air Navigation (Foreign Military Aircraft) Order 1952 gives the Minister for Foreign Affairs primary responsibility for the regulation of activity by foreign military aircraft in Ireland. Permission must be sought in advance for landings by all foreign military aircraft, including those from the US. If granted, permission is subject to strict conditions. Aircraft must be unarmed, carry no arms, ammunition or explosives and must not engage in intelligence gathering. Furthermore, the flights in question must not form part of military exercises or operations.

The Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade is satisfied that the US is aware of the need to comply with the strict conditions which attach to permission for military aircraft to land at Irish airports.

In July, when Senator Gavan raised the issue of US military aircraft landings at Shannon, he speculated that they were involved in supporting NATO military exercises in the Baltic. The US has confirmed this was not the case and the Minister for Foreign Affairs and Trade, Deputy Charles Flanagan, informed the Dáil accordingly. On this occasion, Senator Gavan is suggesting that US military aircraft that landed at Shannon were transporting munitions to Saudi Arabia and that they were involved in mid-air refuelling of Saudi Arabian aircraft. I can inform the Senator that so far in 2016, six US military aircraft have sought permission to land in Shannon with Saudi Arabia as either their origin or destination. In each case, the request stated that the aircraft was unarmed and that it did not carry arms, ammunition or explosives. None of those six aircraft was capable of delivering mid-air refuelling. In each case, the purpose of the stop in Shannon was refuelling and the transport of VIP passengers.

I am grateful to the Senator for providing me with an opportunity to also outline the Government’s response to the ongoing conflict in Yemen and our continuing work in the area of arms control. Last Sunday, during his visit to Saudi Arabia, the Minister, Deputy Flanagan, raised the situation in Yemen, including Ireland's concern at the civilian casualties, with the Saudi Minister of State for Foreign Affairs. Ireland has also been active in raising this matter in international fora, including at the United Nations General Assembly where in our statement at the First Committee on Disarmament and International Security we highlighted our grave concerns with regard to indiscriminate explosive weapons use in current conflicts, with particular reference to the use of cluster munitions use in Yemen.

The current situation in Yemen is extremely worrying. The Government urges all parties to the conflict to respect international law and to return to the political negotiating table. The only solution to this conflict, and as such the only way to ease the suffering of the Yemeni people, is through political means. The longer the fighting continues, the worse the impact on the Yemeni people. Air strikes on civilian targets have been a worrying feature of this conflict. I was particularly concerned to hear of the recent attack on the funeral in Sana’a. Such attacks are unacceptable and I welcome reports that there will be an investigation into this attack.

For many decades, Ireland has been a leading voice for disarmament, non-proliferation, arms control and respect for international humanitarian law. The agreement of the Convention on Cluster Munitions in Dublin in May 2008 led to the creation of a new regime outlawing these weapons. The Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade remains active in its efforts to get all states which have not yet joined the convention to do so, including the United States and Saudi Arabia. In 2013, the international community agreed the arms trade treaty which prohibits the exportation of arms to countries if the exporting country knows that those weapons will be used in acts of genocide, crimes against humanity, grave breaches of the Geneva conventions or other war crimes. Ireland was among the first states to sign and ratify that treaty and remains active in efforts to ensure universal adherence to the norms that it creates.

At the UN General Assembly’s Committee on Disarmament and International Security, which took place in New York last month, Ireland highlighted the urgency of exploring how to raise consciousness and strengthen the application of international humanitarian law in relation to preventing civilian harm from the use of explosive weapons with wide area effects in populated areas.

I hope this reply clarifies the matter for the Senator.

I thank the Minister of State for his response. He is in a difficult position. I believe the Minister for Foreign Affairs and Trade, Deputy Flanagan, is hiding on this issue. I originally asked that the Taoiseach appear before this House on this issue but the matter was referred to the Minister for Foreign Affairs and Trade who, as I said, is in hiding on this issue. The reply has no credibility whatsoever.

In regard to the statement that aircraft are not carrying arms or ammunition, there are witnesses who have seen these arms and ammunition and have testified to that in court cases. We also have the expertise of Mr. Tom Clonan. I live in Limerick, and people in Limerick and Shannon know what is going on. For the Government to say it accepts US assurances is akin to it choosing to turn a blind to what is going on. People are being blown to bits and to smithereens and the Irish Government is hiding. The Minister, Deputy Flanagan, is putting his career ahead of people's lives, which is an absolute disgrace and an embarrassment for our country. This also opens up Shannon as a target for international terrorism. The Government can do better than this.

It is Senator Gavan's credibility that is at stake. When he last raised this issue in July it was proven that what he suggested was not the case. The Minister, Deputy Flanagan, is not hiding. He is unable to be here today. I have come here today on his behalf to present the facts. The facts are as set out.

How does the Minister of State know that?

The arrangements at Shannon are based on international rules.

The aircraft have never been searched.

The operation at Shannon is based on international best practice.

Best practice?

Bilateral relations between friendly nations are founded on mutual trust, with both parties having an interest in maintaining that trust. This arrangement has been in place at Shannon for the past 20 or 30 years.

That is not true.

Despite this issue constantly being raised what is suggested has never been proven.

That is because the aircraft need to be searched.

Never the twain shall meet. The Minister of State has given his response and Senator Gavan has made a powerful case but it does not appear that we will get agreement on it today. I am sure this is a matter that will be raised again.

Inland Fisheries Stocks

I welcome the Minister of State, Deputy Kyne, to the House.

I, too, welcome the Minister of State to the House to respond to this issue. I am aware that Inland Fisheries Ireland is against my proposition. I would like to make the case as to why this should not be its call and to ask the Minister of State to accede to my request. I come from Ballina, County Mayo. Long before the word "tourism" first came into use, angling and salmon fishing have been the heartbeat of tourism in Ballina, Foxford, Swinford and out towards the estuary at Killala Bay. As things stand, we have the best and most prolific salmon fishing river in the River Moy, where it is estimated that there are between 15,000 and 20,000 fish surplus to conservation requirements in terms of the preservation of salmon stocks. The areas I have just mentioned are visited annually by international anglers. Outside of the Arts Festival in Galway, the annual Ballina salmon festival is the biggest festival in the west. We also have a food festival and a river festival in Foxford. So much revolves around the River Moy and salmon. A national salmon life interpretative centre is being developed in Ballina, into which a significant amount of taxpayers' money and a contribution from Inland Fisheries Ireland, IFI, have been already invested. Without a doubt, salmon is king in my area.

Unfortunately, however, there is no wild salmon on the menus of any of the restaurants or hotels in Ballina or Foxford. We get a lot of visitors to this region, the draw being the setting, the river and salmon. At a recently held food festival local chefs from Ballina, in order to be able to serve wild salmon dishes, had to obtain salmon donations from IFI. Under current legislation, it is not possible to buy a salmon from anglers and although anglers are allowed to catch fish up to certain limits within season, they cannot sell that fish. There is no commercial wild salmon available to buy.

In 2006 an independent salmon group was convened, the report of which I have with me today. The current situation arises out of the standing scientific committee recommendation that steps be taken in relation to commercial salmon fishing to preserve and conserve salmon stocks. Arising out of that drift nets were banned. Some €25 million of taxpayers' money was paid out to ensure the cessation of commercial salmon fishing. I refer the Minister of State to the 2006 report which sets out what was to happen in regard to any surplus. It envisions that a model for the allocation of the surplus would be put in place. This has not been done to date. This is predicated on the assumption that allocation of the surplus is in the public interest as it is paid for with taxpayers' money. The current surplus is beyond what is required to conserve salmon stocks. The report recognises the cases of groups such as processors, restaurateurs, retailers and those who have traditionally accessed wild salmon from the commercial sector for a continued source of supply.

It accommodates the interests of tourism, given the potential of international angling. The report calls for a model to be devised.

There are various stakeholders and interests involved, including processors, restaurateurs and retailers, but I am approaching the issue from the point of view of the tourism sector. Inland Fisheries Ireland, IFI, has invested significantly in traps, equipment and state-of-the-art technology on the weirs in Ballina. That equipment is well able to trap salmon. A certain number of salmon could be sold to designated restaurants and hotels, but not wholesale. The Moy catchment area would be seen as a pilot project. There would be implications for other salmon fishing rivers around the country, but given the fact that the River Moy is the most prolific in that regard, it would be a major boost to our tourism industry. I call on the Minister of State to examine the reason behind the initial banning of commercial fishing and determine a way to ensure that the new surplus is distributed fairly and for the common good.

I thank the Senator for submitting this Commencement matter for discussion. I acknowledge the important role that fishing and angling play in Ballina's tourism. IFI is the State agency responsible for the protection, management and conservation of Ireland's inland fisheries and sea angling resources. It manages salmon stocks on an individual river basis, as each of Ireland's salmon rivers has its own genetically unique stock of salmon. IFI is supported in its management role by a statutorily independent standing scientific committee, SSC, for salmon comprising scientists from IFI, Bord Iascaigh Mhara, the Loughs Agency, the National Parks and Wildlife Service, the Marine Institute, the Agri-Food and Biosciences Institute of Northern Ireland and other State bodies and third level institutions.

The SSC estimates the number of salmon likely to return to each river in the next fishing season based on estimates of salmon runs over the most recent five years. Each river has an individual conservation limit, which is essentially the number of salmon required to spawn to maintain a healthy population. If the estimate of returning salmon is above this limit, salmon from that individually genetic river population may be harvested commercially or by rod and line. The SSC's independent advice to lFl underpins the management decisions and advice of IFI as regards all aspects of the angling and commercial season for salmon on an individual river basis.

In 2006, the Government affirmed its commitment to manage the wild salmon fishery in line with the scientific advice from 2007 onwards in the interests of conservation of stocks. International best practice for the management of Atlantic salmon requires the adoption of the precautionary approach and the cessation of indiscriminate mixed stock fisheries. Since 2007, the harvest of salmon by commercial and recreational, that is, angling, means has been restricted to those stocks of rivers that are meeting their conservation limits.

Fisheries are only considered in rivers where the estimated returns are above the conservation limit for the river. I am advised by IFI that a risk analysis is undertaken on any estimate of returns expected to be above the conservation limit. The individual river management strategy is based on the fact that each of Ireland's salmon rivers has its own unique stock of salmon that migrates to sea as juveniles and returns to the same river in adulthood to spawn and create the next generation of fish exclusive to that river. Fisheries are only considered in rivers where the estimated returns are above the conservation limit for each river. In that regard, it is not biologically or environmentally sustainable to redistribute genetically distinct surplus stocks outside their native rivers due to the conservation imperative to avoid an impact on or a dilution of existing stocks that are above their conservation limits.

Stocks within individual rivers that have a surplus are distributed among the established stakeholders. For rivers on which there is both angling and commercial fisheries, the surplus is distributed via a district committee on which anglers and commercial fishermen are represented. This distribution only happens where there is a harvestable surplus.

The model and processes used by the SSC are recognised internationally as best practice. Delegations from a number of countries have visited IFI and the SSC to examine and seek to learn from the Irish approach to salmon management. The North Atlantic Salmon Conservation Organisation also recognises Ireland as a leader in this area.

Wild salmon is a valuable natural resource and the value of rod-caught fish to local and rural communities is substantial in terms of the benefit to the local economy from income associated with anglers staying in the locality, making purchases from tackle shops, dining in restaurants and visiting local public houses. The high value of tourism angling, highlighted by IFI and Bord Fáilte, is based primarily on participation in the activity by visiting anglers and the excellence of the local angling resource. This activity-based value was borne out in the most comprehensive study of recreational angling in Ireland ever undertaken, which was commissioned by lFl. There is no evidence to suggest that the availability of wild salmon on local menus augments the attractiveness of a local area to potential angler visitors.

At a time when salmon stocks generally have declined, the River Moy has a surplus available for harvest by rod and line. No commercial fisheries exist on the river. The Moy and the hinterland it serves are the envy of many communities whose rivers have no harvestable surplus and where no salmon can be retained by anglers or no fishing is permitted. There are still a number of commercial salmon fisheries in Ireland, including in Mayo. These are primarily draft net and snap nets, and each of these legal fisheries provides sustainably harvested wild salmon available for purchase by restaurants and hotels.

All rod-caught fish are blue tagged so that anglers can retain the fish, but the sale of rod-caught salmon is expressly prohibited by law for good reason. Salmon are an important wild fish resource. In this regard, anglers are permitted to retain up to ten salmon personally in a year and pay a fee of up to €100 for the licence and tags. These fish cannot be sold on the basis that incentivising the sale of rod-caught salmon creates a commercial rod fishery that would be counterproductive to the long-standing conservation imperative supported by all anglers who are involved in the activity for sport and leisure reasons. Facilitating the sale of rod-caught salmon from a specific river could augment the potential for an increase in illegal salmon fishing, putting pressure on rivers that do not have a surplus.

The State's efforts are concentrated on seeking to recover the stocks. A return to increasing sales of wild salmon, other than those from fisheries scientifically assessed as commercially sustainable, would unravel much of the State's investment of €30 million in the salmon hardship scheme, which is aimed at conservation of stocks.

The rod catch on the River Moy has declined in recent years. In 2016, it was 5,775 salmon compared with 7,075 in 2015. Having regard to the negative trend generally in the returns of wild salmon to Irish rivers, a precautionary approach is required and, as such, it would be unwise and irresponsible to introduce any measure or derogation that could lead to a significant increase in angler exploitation of the wild salmon resource.

Salmon angling as an activity is a valuable tourism resource. Any proposal to transform the activity into a commercial fishing venture and encourage anglers to catch their "quota" is not ecologically sound. Wild Atlantic salmon is listed as endangered and is generally protected by responsible anglers as well as fishery protection staff. As the Minister of State with responsibility for the sector, I am anxious to ensure that salmon are protected in all rivers and that no measures are put in place that would have a deleterious effect on the salmon stocks in any river, including the Moy.

I have given this issue fresh impetus because Bord Iascaigh Mhara, BIM, appeared before the Joint Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine and informed us of the science involved. Even under the precautionary approach, there is a surplus. By default, IFI gets to say what happens to all wild fish, but that was not envisioned by the report. Previously, the National Salmon Commission advised on quotas for fishermen and processors each year when there was commercial fishing. IFI has a certain view on tourism. I do not know why Fáilte Ireland branded Ballina the salmon capital of Ireland if anglers already knew it was there. There is a tourism pull and we have built many festivals around it, but one cannot get salmon on the menu. They are caught in the River Moy.

The report, which was worked on by Professor Tom Collins from Maynooth, the former Secretary General of the Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine, Mr. John Malone, and Mr. Padraic White of the IDA, called for a model to be devised for the distribution of surplus on a regional and national basis that would involve stakeholders like the tourism sector, fish processors, Government representatives and anglers making decisions. Let it not just be done by IFI. There is no conservation issue that will not be taken into account. We must do this. It is for the public good. Taxpayers' money has been spent. I call on the Minister of State to take action, review the report and do what makes sense, that is, allow wild salmon to be available on menus in the River Moy catchment area.

I will allow the Minister of State to respond briefly. Usually, there are only eight minutes for a Commencement matter, but we have already used 13 minutes and another matter must be discussed afterwards.

I apologise for that. I have read sections of the report, including its executive summary. The report was commissioned in 2006 in advance of the ban on drift net fishing. It anticipated that there would be a large surplus for distribution, but that surplus has not arisen. For the first couple of years after the 2007 enactment of the drift net ban, our river stock increased. Unfortunately, there has been a reduction since then. The figures that I cited-----

Only in what has been caught. Some 15,000 to 20,000 is the surplus according to BIM and the standing committee.

No. The rod catch on the River Moy has declined in recent years.

That is different than a surplus.

In 2016, it was 5,775 salmon compared with 7,075 in 2015. This is all based on science.

Yes, but that is a different issue to the surplus.

Allow the Minister of State to respond.

The 2006 report's expectation has not been realised because the number of fish returning from the Atlantic has been reduced due to predation, global warming and other factors. The report anticipated when the driftnet ban was enacted that there would be a surplus but this has not been realised. I will ask officials from IFI to give the Senator their more professional assessment of the situation. I accept the report is ten years old. While I would like to see wild salmon on the menus of all our restaurants-----

I am not asking for that.

-----that can only happen if there is an increase in the number of salmon returning from the Atlantic to all our rivers. IFI follows best international practice in the conservation of our salmon stocks.

Will the Minister of State not follow the report and put together a model for redistribution of surplus?

I will ask IFI officials to discuss the matter with the Senator.

It is not IFI but the Minister of State who should discuss it.

Senator Michelle Mulherin, I could write a thesis on the whole area. I was a Deputy when it all went through.

Playground Provision

The Cathaoirleach did great work in the whole area of fisheries when he was a Deputy.

I welcome the Minister of State, Deputy Seán Kyne, to the House. This is the first time I have had an opportunity to welcome him here. I congratulate him on the outstanding job he is doing.

Before the crash, significant funding was made available from central Government for playgrounds which was accessed primarily by local authorities. Clare County Council gave funding to community groups through a partnership approach, which was successful in developing and building playgrounds. Other counties adopted different models.

Are there any plans to have any further funding schemes or streams available from the Department of Children and Youth Affairs for local authorities to build new playgrounds in areas of population and areas which have not benefited from them before? If such funding is made available, will there be a condition that the playgrounds have to be accessible to people with various forms disability? Universal design playgrounds are possible. Over the past several years, the people who supply equipment to playgrounds, particularly in the UK, have done enormous work to ensure equipment is universally accessible. Any funding made available for playgrounds should be predicated on them being accessible to people with disabilities.

Many existing playgrounds need to be refurbished and retrofitted. It is not beyond reason for the scheme to be put in place to facilitate local authorities in this regard. If that is to happen, the equipment to be purchased should be of universal design nature too.

I am not sure over the past several years what funding from central Government, if any, has been available for playgrounds. The funding provided has been spent wisely and the playgrounds are extremely busy. The playground in Lahinch, County Clare, has thousands of children using it every month. What is the Minister's position on this? The universal design model needs to be embraced and encouraged.

I thank Senator Martin Conway for putting down this Commencement matter which I am taking on behalf of the Minister for Children and Youth Affairs, Deputy Katherine Zappone.

Play is an internationally recognised area of importance for the well-being of children. The child's right to play is enshrined in Article 31 of the United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child, which recognises the right of the child to rest and leisure, to engage in play and recreational activities appropriate to the age of the child and to participate freely in cultural life and the arts. Better Outcomes Brighter Futures, the national policy framework for children and young people, 2014-2020, recognises play and recreation as one of the ways in which the aim that all children will be active and healthy, with physical and mental well-being, will be achieved.

The provision of public play and recreation facilities is primarily the responsibility of local authorities. The Department of Children and Youth Affairs also has a role in this important area. The Minister for Children and Youth Affairs, Deputy Katherine Zappone, is committed to ensuring that children's right to play is promoted and protected. Since 2013 the Department of Children and Youth Affairs has administered the capital grant scheme for play and recreation. The scheme provides for new and innovative projects which can include new facilities, equipment, designs. The utilisation of non-traditional play spaces, or the refurbishment or upgrading of existing play and recreation spaces and facilities, is also provided for and encouraged. The total amount of funding available under the scheme each year since 2013 is €250,000, with a maximum grant of €20,000 to any local authority.

Funding criteria for the scheme were developed in conjunction with the local area play and recreation network. Established in 2012, the network is made up of staff with responsibility for play and recreation in their local authority area. The purpose of the network was to introduce a more co-ordinated and inter-agency approach to achieving the main goals of the play and recreation policies, at both national and local level.

Senator Martin Conway asked if the provision of financial support is conditional on the playground being universally designed to allow children with various disabilities access the equipment. The Minister has confirmed that one of the key criteria for funding under the capital grant scheme is that all facilities and equipment funded must be accessible to children and young people with special needs.

Other criteria applied to applications include play and recreation spaces and facilities must be available for use by all children and young people in the locality at times when they are free to use them, namely, outside of school hours; all facilities and equipment must be youth-friendly and safe; children and young people must be consulted about the project for which funding is requested; and confirmation that a "No Smoking" sign is prominently displayed in the facility for which funding is awarded must be provided. A further requirement of the scheme is that the local authority in which the playground is situated must provide matched funding for the project. This can be in the form of land, equipment, staff or additional funding.

The Department of Children and Youth Affairs has recently commissioned a review of the public provision of play and recreation facilities. The findings from this research will inform the next steps in developing play and recreation policy. Future developments in this policy area will involve all key stakeholders, including children and young people, in the deciding the future direction to be taken.

That is a comprehensive reply. Will the Minister of State ask officials in the Department of Children and Youth Affairs to give me a contact person in this review to whom I can make a submission? I know many people who would like to make their views known to the review process.

I am sure the Minister of State will do that.

I will ask the officials and the Minister for Children and Youth Affairs to revert to the Senator on that.

Sitting suspended at 11.20 a.m. and resumed at 11.30 a.m.
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