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SELECT COMMITTEE ON FINANCE AND THE PUBLIC SERVICE debate -
Wednesday, 4 Apr 2007

2007 Output Statement for Department of the Taoiseach.

Last month the Dáil ordered that the following Revised Estimates for public services be referred to this committee for consideration: Vote 2 - Department of the Taoiseach; Vote 3 - Office of the Attorney General; Vote 4 - Central Statistics Office; Vote 13 - Office of the Chief State Solicitor; and Vote 14 - Office of the Director of Public Prosecutions. The purpose of today's meeting is to consider the Revised Estimates for the Taoiseach's group of Votes. A draft timetable for the meeting was circulated with the agenda. Is that agreed? Agreed.

I welcome the Taoiseach, Deputy Bertie Ahern, and the Minister of State at the Department of the Taoiseach, Deputy Tom Kitt, and their officials. In a change to procedure in previous years, in line with the expanded budgetary process the 2007 annual output statement for the Department of the Taoiseach has also been provided and circulated to members to facilitate consideration of the Estimates. I now call on the Taoiseach to make an opening statement.

Thank you, Chairman. I welcome the opportunity to appear before the select committee as it considers the 2007 Estimates for Votes 2, 3, 4, 13 and 14. This year our discussion will be enhanced by the new annual output statements which provide information not only on the Estimates allocation but on how the resources provided will be put to practical use in furthering the objectives of my Department and offices in the Vote group. This demonstration of outputs and outcomes will lead to greater transparency and understanding of what has been achieved with the money voted by the Dáil.

For Departments as a whole we now have a fully integrated model which links the high level planning in strategy statements to the financial and human resources allocated to implement these objectives. I want to use the time available to me to highlight examples from our output statement which demonstrate some of the achievements in the past year, as well as the priorities ahead.

A total of €43.736 million has been provided in the Estimate for my Department for 2007, an increase of 16% on last year's allocation. This arises mainly from additional provisions made for information society initiatives, the National Centre for Partnership and Performance and the commission of investigation into certain aspects of the Dublin and Monaghan bombings. It also represents an increase of 34% on the 2006 outturn, reflecting the significant provision made in both years to provide for completion of the Moriarty tribunal.

The money being sought will fund a range of activities to advance the objectives outlined in my Department's strategy statement. The Department plays a key role in supporting the Government as it continues to progress national priorities, including sustaining a strong knowledge-based economy, balanced development and a caring society, as well as supporting civic life through good government, promoting our interests within the European Union and the wider world and our overriding priority of securing lasting peace on the island of Ireland. As much of my Department's work supports the activities of other Departments, its impact on final outcomes is often indirect and captured in the output of sister Departments. Our output indicators are, therefore, mainly qualitative in nature.

When I spoke to the committee in April last year, Prime Minister Blair and I had just announced our plans to restore devolved government in Northern Ireland. We outlined our shared view that the political climate was right to enable real and tangible steps forward to be taken in the peace process. Following on from our April announcement, the two Governments published the St. Andrew's Agreement in October, which agreement was built on the twin pillars of power sharing and support for policing and had an ultimate goal of restoration of the power-sharing Executive in Northern Ireland. The election last month was an integral part of that process. The results gave a clear endorsement of the strategy of the two Governments and, more importantly, the parties a clear mandate to restore the institutions. On 26 March we were witness to truly unprecedented and historic developments in Northern Ireland. Anyone with a sense of the history and troubles of this island understands the significance of the meeting between Sinn Féin and the DUP and their unequivocal agreement to restore the devolved institutions on 8 May. Northern Ireland has moved into a new and very positive phase. We are already seeing the political parties making the best use of the preparatory period prior to full restoration. The level of engagement in this initial phase has been very encouraging. I welcome this. Earlier today I welcomed Dr. Ian Paisley to Dublin. We had a very businesslike and friendly discussion on a range of matters of mutual interest. I commended the leadership which he has shown in helping to bring about a new and better future for all of the people of Northern Ireland.

At this important time in our history we must all do our best to put behind us the terrible wounds of the past and work together to build a new relationship between our two traditions. That new relationship can only be built on a basis of open dialogue and mutual respect. I fervently believe we move on from here in a new spirit of friendship. I commend the leaderships on both sides of the community for the parts which they have played in bringing us to this historic point. We have a range of important matters that require politicians on both sides of the Border to work together. The new national development plan sets out the Government's ambitious ideas. I am glad these have been widely supported on all sides of the community in Northern Ireland. They have also been endorsed by the British Government and formed an important part of Chancellor Gordon Brown's recent proposals to help Northern Ireland's economy. I now look forward to working with the devolved Administration in Northern Ireland in the restored North-South Ministerial Council and the British-Irish Council, as well as all those areas where we can work together for mutual benefit.

The European and international affairs division supports me in my role as a member of the European Council and Head of Government. The division works in close collaboration with other Departments to promote Ireland's interests in the European Union and in international policy formulation. We recently marked the 50th anniversary of the Treaty of Rome. The last year has seen further significant developments in the European Union. These include European Council agreement on the Union's future enlargement strategy which will be based on the three principles of consolidation of commitments, rigorous conditionality and communication. Bulgaria and Romania joined the European Union in January, bringing total EU membership to 27. The June Council will consider the next steps on the European constitution. Ireland remains committed to the constitutional treaty, believing it to represent the best achievable deal for the European Union. The reality, however, is that changes are likely.

EU Transport Ministers recently gave their support to an agreement which will allow EU airlines to fly to any city in the United States and US airlines to fly anywhere in Europe. Aer Lingus - one of the first carriers to react to the move - has already announced new routes from Dublin to San Francisco, Orlando and Washington.

Climate change is one of the greatest challenges of our time and requires a global approach and recognition that now, not later, is the time to take action. At the recent European Council the Heads of Government agreed that we must continue to show leadership to the rest of the world in the drive to solve this problem. Ambitious targets for reductions in greenhouse gas emissions have been set, as well as a binding target of 20% for renewable energy.

The interdepartmental co-ordinating committee on European affairs has put considerable effort into ensuring the timely and correct transposition of EU directives. My Department is developing a database for the monitoring and co-ordination of transposition across all Departments. Work is at an advanced stage and it is hoped the system will be up and running by the end of June.

My Department co-ordinates Ireland's activities in progressing the goals of the Lisbon Agenda. Following its re-launch as a partnership for growth and employment, each member state has prepared a national reform programme, covering macro-economic, micro-economic and employment policies. My Department co-ordinates preparation of Ireland's national reform programme and annual progress reports on its implementation.

On the international side, my Department's main interests are bilateral external relations, relations with international bodies and trade development. In January I led a successful trade mission to the Gulf states of Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates. This visit recognised the growing trade links between Ireland and the region and provided an opportunity to further develop bilateral relations and promote Irish economic links with the region. Once again, the trade mission was an all-Ireland event, reflecting the increasing co-operation among companies and business organisations across the island of Ireland. As part of Ireland's strategic approach to further developing our bilateral political, economic and cultural relations, I continue to meet our international partners in support of inward and outward economic and investment opportunities and the maintenance of cordial international relations.

The Government's economic strategy continues to deliver strong results. The performance of the economy remains the envy of the rest of Europe, not least in the context of the Lisbon strategy for jobs and growth. Employment growth remains strong despite headlines to the contrary, with 4.4% growth last year and further growth projected for this year. Unemployment remains exceptionally low at 4.2%. GDP grew by an estimated 5.4% last year and is projected to grow by 5.3% this year. These are impressive figures by any standards.

We are also investing substantially right across the economy and society. The new national development plan, launched in January, maps out an ambitious, but necessary and realistic, investment programme for the next seven years. This will see substantial progress in many key areas. For example, we will continue to support major upgrading of the road network and public transport system, as mapped out under Transport 21. The NDP also provides the investment framework to give effect to the strategy for science, technology and innovation as a key driver of our move to increase the added-value of the workforce and economy. For the first time, it provides substantial resources to address social inclusion.

The economic and social policy division works with other Departments and agencies in preparing the ground and providing support for major decisions that require a "whole of Government" perspective. The division convenes the cross-departmental team on housing, infrastructure and public private partnerships and the senior officials groups on social inclusion and health which support Cabinet committees which I chair. These structures play an important role in assisting the preparation of policy decisions in key cross-cutting areas such as energy and climate change. The division also works with the Central Statistics Office in promoting the use of statistics in evidence-based policymaking.

The Department plays a critical role in maintaining and developing social partnership. Last year lengthy negotiations led to the ground-breaking ten year framework agreement, Towards 2016. Recognising the importance of longer term policy issues facing the country, it introduced a new life-cycle approach to the delivery of services that will enable more efficient and effective responses to the needs of citizens. In addition, the agreement sets out a new round of pay terms for a 27 month period and provides an important and balanced set of measures in the area of employment rights and compliance. Given the difficult context in which the negotiations commenced, it is testament to the durability and value of the social partnership process that such a comprehensive outcome was achieved. We are now pressing ahead with the implementation arrangements for the agreement such as the plenary meeting which I attended in February.

Part II of Towards 2016 provides for the following: the establishment of a new statutory body for employment rights compliance; a trebling in the number of labour inspectors; significant increases in penalties for non-compliance with employment law; the regulation of employment agencies; and new legislation on exceptional collective redundancy situations and dismissals in the context of industrial disputes. The agreement also provides for the establishment of more user-friendly adjudication and redress mechanisms in the employment rights area. There has been good progress over a short period of time in delivering on these commitments.

The National Centre for Partnership and Performance, NCPP, based its activities last year on five broad areas, namely, partnership, national workplace strategy, workplace innovation fund, research and policy development and communication and dissemination. The Government has committed €9 million to a three-year workplace innovation fund that will provide financial support to companies introducing new ideas and best-practice models of innovation through partnership in their workplaces. The NCPP is also working on a national workplace strategy public awareness campaign.

An issue of increasing interest to employers and employees alike is pensions. The drafting of the Green Paper is well under way and will take account of the views of IBEC and ICTU as expressed through their ongoing participation in the work of the partnership pensions review group.

The programme of work of the better regulation unit is guided by the Government White Paper, Regulating Better. I recently published a report of the findings of the ESRI business regulation survey carried out at the request of my Department. This has provided concise information on the impacts of regulation on business and will inform policy-making.

Regulatory impact analysis is a key tool in policy-making which results in more evidence-based decision-making. Funding earmarked for this year will be used to provide dedicated training and expert economic advice for officials conducting these analyses.

A programme of modernisation of the Statute Book is also under way and funding this year will support programmes of reform, including in the area of electronic publication of statutory instruments. This will improve the availability and accuracy of statutory instruments in both electronic and printed format. The Government is also currently steering the Statute Law Revision Bill 2007 through the Oireachtas to repeal obsolete statutes, making this the most significant statute law revision measure ever undertaken.

Good progress continues to be made on the modernisation agenda for the public service. Towards 2016 includes significant commitments on modernisation and change in the public service. The implementation group of Secretaries General, chaired by my Department, continues to co-ordinate implementation of the modernisation programme. That includes a number of initiatives which I announced last summer. For example, a major external review of the public service which is now being undertaken by the OECD. The review has two objectives: to benchmark the public service in Ireland against other comparable countries and to make recommendations for future direction for public service reform. There will be a public consultation process to allow stakeholders and interested parties to contribute their views.

The review which I expect to be completed by end 2007 will examine the effectiveness of arrangements through which Government objectives are translated into outputs and outcomes. It will focus on the connections between the different sectors, including the links between Departments-offices and the local government, health, education and justice sectors, with a particular focus on delivery of quality public services.

Complementing the OECD review, the Government has approved a new organisational review programme. This will be a series of ongoing health checks to review each Department's or office's structures, capacities, procedures and leadership capabilities. The programme will help to reassure us about their overall performance, as well as provide practical support for future improvement. The process will have elements of peer review and external participation and will be led by the Secretary General to the Government.

Work is continuing on change and modernisation of systems and ongoing improvements are being made through the quality customer service initiative. We have also been actively encouraging all Departments to improve and promote their complaints and appeals procedures. The results of our ongoing customer surveys are encouraging. Some 79% of the public state they are fairly or very satisfied with the service provided by Civil Service while for the business community this approval rating is higher at 81%. There is more to be done to meet the needs of a changing society. My Department, in close co-operation with the Department of Finance, has a leadership role in that process.

My Department has an important role to play in promoting social dialogue and reflection about broader social issues. Our role in social partnership and promoting peace and reconciliation in Northern Ireland are prime examples of this. Our efforts to promote the balanced commemoration of key moments in our history, as with the anniversaries of the 1916 Rising and the Battle of the Somme, is an important contribution to reflection on our inheritance and identity.

Last year I established the task force on active citizenship, which reported recently and did an excellent job in analysing the health of our own democracy. In the same spirit, I progressed the programme of structured dialogue with the churches and faith communities, which has been widely welcomed and whose inaugural plenary meeting took place earlier this year.

The Estimate for the Office of the Attorney General is €19.220 million, €14.310 million for operating costs of the office and €4.910 million by way of a grant-in-aid to the Law Reform Commission. Salaries, wages and allowances in the office account for €9.971 million. Some of the extra costs arise from the programme of secondment of advisory counsel to Departments - commenced last year - whereby advisory counsel are recruited by the office for training and subsequent secondment to a number of Departments. Once seconded, the relevant Departments meet the costs in respect of these advisory counsel. Six advisory counsel have been recruited, trained and seconded to date and two or three more are expected this year.

An allocation of €1.284 million is earmarked for office machinery and other office supplies and related services. The costs arising include those in respect of the roll out by end April to the few remaining areas in both the office and the Chief State Solicitor's office of the new case and records management system costing €200,000, the maintenance of the office's new human resources management system which went live last December, the roll out of the management information framework and the correcting of errors, reformatting and updating of the electronic Statute Book website and by way of the production of a new CD-ROM costing €425,000.

Much work has been done on developing an interface between the case and records management system and the financial management system so as to enable roll out of the management information framework by the summer.

The contract legal expertise provision of €855,000 includes €705,000 for the employment of consultant drafters which are required in view of the Government's extensive legislation programme and €150,000 for the engagement of contract researchers and a part-time supervisor on the pre-1922 legislation project. The Law Reform Commission is continuing to implement its second programme of law reform, 2000-2007. By the end of this year, the commission will have completed or begun work on all of the identified topics as well as the requests from the Attorney General.

It is engaged in 18 separate projects this year and intends to publish ten major documents. The commission has also taken over responsibility for the preparation of restatements of legislation and of the chronological tables to the statutes. Additional staff have been sanctioned for the commission for which provision is being made in respect of pay, accommodation and other costs. The commission has commenced preparation for its third programme and a number of public consultations are taking place around the country, as well as one-to-one consultations with interested parties.

The 2007 Estimate for the Chief State Solicitor's office is €50.157 million. Salaries, wages and allowances in the office account for €15.495 million. The increase is attributable to an increase in staffing along with provision for payment of increases under Towards 2016. The case and records management system is now operated in most areas of both offices and roll out is expected to be completed by end April.

Some €1.412 million has been allocated to office machinery and other office supplies and related services. Included is the cost of the full roll out of the new case and records management system. The case and records management system is now operational in most areas of both offices and roll out is expected to be completed by the end of this month.

The office has recently taken on new accommodation and provision has been made for furniture, security, cleaning, etc., in the relevant subheads. The increased allocation for the State solicitor service provides for a package of measures to allow for the service to transfer to the Office of the Director of Public Prosecutions, as recommended in the Nally report. It is anticipated that this transfer will occur this month.

The Estimate for the Office of the Director of Public Prosecutions is €35.795 million. This provides for the salaries and expenses of the director and his staff, fees to counsel engaged by the director to prosecute cases in the various courts and legal costs awarded against the State arising out of judicial review and other legal proceedings.

I have given the committee but a flavour of some of the important activities in which my Department and these offices are involved. I hope that the new annual output statement will assist in giving a full picture of our achievements last year and objectives for this year and contribute to the committee's deliberations. I would welcome any suggestions the committee might have for future improvements in the presentation of the statement. I commend these Estimates to the committee and thank members for their attention. I now hand over to the Minister of State, Deputy Kitt, who will make a statement on the Estimates for the knowledge society initiatives and the Central Statistics Office, for which he has ministerial responsibility.

As Minister of State at the Department the Taoiseach, I have special responsibility for the information society and for the Central Statistics Office. The information society policy unit in the Department is in the process of completing a new action plan for the further development of the knowledge society following an extensive consultation with Departments, agencies and relevant stakeholders.

My colleague, Deputy Noel Dempsey, Minister for Communications, Marine and Natural Resources, and his officials are currently working on the development of a strategy that will make Ireland one of the top countries in terms of speed and access to broadband services.

Some €3 million has been allocated for the funding of the access, skills and content, ASC, initiative. The purpose of the ASC initiative is to assist voluntary, not-for-profit organisations and service providers to target those who are at greatest risk of being left behind in the move to the information society. The first call for proposals advertised in February was directed primarily at older people and people with disabilities and it is seeking project proposals which exploit the potential of technology to foster communities of common interest through on-line services and networks. Projects have been asked to focus on digital content and skills development. The closing date for receipt of applications was Thursday, 22 March 2007 and it is hoped that the assessment process will be completed by the end of April. It is clear from the type and geographical spread of the applications received last year that there is a continually growing interest among people to expand their appreciation of the benefits of using technology to enhance their everyday lives, in addition to acquiring fundamental skills.

The Central Statistics Office, CSO, is responsible for the collection, processing and publication of official statistics on economic and social conditions in Ireland. While the main focus is on the statistical requirements of government, there is a very wide community of users of statistics. There is also a significant international dimension to the work of the office and the demands resulting from EU regulations are continually increasing.

Net expenditure by the CSO in 2006 amounted to €74.942 million. The 2007 net allocation is €54.9 million. The large decrease this year is due to the census of population. Fieldwork associated with the census was completed in the first half of 2006. The census is the largest statistical project conducted by the CSO; about 4,500 enumerators were employed to collect the census details. The overall cost of the census, from preparation to final results, is about €45 million, of which about €32 million was incurred in 2006. A further €6 million is expected to be spent in the course of this year. The first results of the census, giving the preliminary population of the State, were made available in July 2006 and the full programme of detailed census publications will be completed within two years. A total of 17 census publications are scheduled for release in the seven-month period that commenced on 29 March. All the results will be published simultaneously on paper and the CSO website.

The fieldwork for the most recent household budget survey was completed in December 2005 and the results were processed in the course of 2006. This survey takes place every five years and provides information on household income and expenditure. The preliminary results of the survey are scheduled for publication later this month. The results also underpin the calculation of the consumer price index which is rebased at five-year intervals. The most recent rebasing was incorporated into the consumer price index release for the month of January this year.

Apart from the census, the quarterly national household survey continues to be a major source of information on demographic and social trends. It provides figures for the labour force within three months of the end of each quarter. The survey also covers a range of social topics on a modular basis. This year the CSO will collect information on accidents and illnesses at work and information and communications technology, as well as obtaining updated statistics on sport and social capital and work and family balance.

A comprehensive picture of disability and how it affects people's lives will be obtained from the post-census national disability survey. The fieldwork for this new survey was undertaken in the autumn of 2006. The survey asked questions about such factors as: the degree of severity, the type of disability, the extent to which persons with a disability are enabled to use transport, to gain access to and use buildings, and to participate in education, employment and social life.

Another important survey dealing with social conditions is the EU survey of income and living conditions which began in June 2003. The survey provides information on poverty, deprivation and social exclusion and is an important information source for national and EU policies, including the national anti-poverty strategy. The most recent results, in respect of 2004, were published last December.

The National Statistics Board's Strategy for Statistics 2003-2008 emphasises the role of statistics in supporting evidence-based decision-making. The CSO is continuing to work actively with other Departments and agencies to promote the statistical use of administrative records and help them develop their data and statistics strategies. In the past three years much of this work has been focused on social statistics and the development of new thematic reports such as Measuring Ireland's Progress and Women and Men in Ireland. More recently, the CSO has prepared a report for the National Statistics Board on policy needs for statistical data on enterprises, following an extensive consultation exercise with Departments and agencies dealing with the business community. A new business statistics integration unit has been set up in the CSO to co-ordinate the response to the data needs and strategic recommendations made in this report.

Information technology is an important part of the work of a modern statistical office. The CSO is implementing a major project to upgrade its computer systems for recording and processing survey information. The new systems will use the latest technologies for data storage and statistical processing, for over 100 surveys conducted by the CSO. The project is well advanced and scheduled for completion late this year.

The results of the census will be published on-line at the same time as they are made available on paper. This is the CSO's approach for all statistical releases and publications and the office is continuing to develop its website as a first port of call for statistics on Ireland. A significant feature of the site is the on-line dissemination database which gives easy interactive access to customised tables from a wide range of CSO statistics.

The number of staff provided for in the CSO's Vote for 2007 is 840 which compares with 904 in 2006. The decrease in numbers is due to the anticipated ending of temporary contracts put in place for clerical support associated with the 2006 census of population.

I commend the Estimates to the committee and thank the committee members for their attention.

I congratulate the Taoiseach on the extraordinary progress made in Northern Ireland. Nobody could have believed we would see the events we have seen in recent times. This is one of the Taoiseach's tremendous achievements. His persistence and patience certainly deserve commendation and appreciation.

The Taoiseach holds a broad brief and to some degree it is like trying to catch an eel because it moves and changes. I note his Department is taking responsibility for monitoring climate change. I read the climate change strategy published this week and also the strategy published in 2000. Now, at the mid-point of the strategy for the period 2000 to 2010, we are worse off than the do nothing scenario. The new strategy for the period 2007 to 2013 makes no comment whatsoever on the massive failure of the original strategy statement. If the Taoiseach's Department is to take responsibility for monitoring, the first test must be showing a degree of honesty as to where we are, which is nowhere.

The initiatives proposed in 2000 have either failed or been abandoned. For instance, the Moneypoint project has been abandoned; the expansion of the use of the renewable energy has not been delivered; work on fuel switching and VRT restructuring was not done; the development of an integrated traffic management plan in Dublin has not resulted in the DTA or in integrated ticketing which were at the core of the plan. Spatial planning was introduced as an afterthought to the NDP and it has not imposed a framework for joined-up development to achieve its objectives. The new house grant was to be adjusted to reflect the need for energy efficiency in new houses but this did not happen because the grant was abolished. I do not wish to labour the point but many initiatives were proposed but there is nil reference in the new strategy to the fact that most of them have been abandoned, while some have been recycled into the new plan with no reference to the fact that nothing has been done in the intervening period. There is something wrong with governance that is not willing to face up to problems when things go off the rails.

I have read the new national development plan. If one reads the section dealing with the last NDP, it was purely a public relations exercise. The truth is that half of the projects were not delivered for various reasons across all sectors such as housing, water and roads. If the Department of the Taoiseach is taking responsibility, there has to be an honest appraisal when things go wrong. For example, the last NDP in 1999 proposed the establishment of a central evaluation unit to help selection, ranking and evaluation of projects. That unit has still not been established and the programme has come to an end. The Department of Finance is now talking about establishing one but it will not do what was envisaged originally. This proposal was a core element in the delivery of the first NDP but the unit was never established.

The Department of the Taoiseach has an important role to play in ensuring these issues will be taken more seriously and in setting down a more strategic direction. It must also hold Ministers or their Departments to account regarding announcements made of actions to be taken. The Government appears to work in a system of silos and unless the Department of the Taoiseach breaks out of that system and forces the issue, progress will not be made.

The position is similar with regard to more basic problems such as educational disadvantage, the level of which has remained stubbornly unchanged during the past decade. There are still high numbers who leave school without any qualifications and who do not even reach second level. The figures for those who do not sit the leaving certificate exaination may have improved ever so slightly but the ambition in this regard has not been achieved. The truth is that the Department of Education and Science cannot do what is required of it. A much more integrated response across a number of sectors is required. The beginnings of such a response have been put in place in the form of the education partnerships but, in financial terms, these receive buttons. Those at the Department do not think outside the box in addressing these issues. This is not just a problem for the Government. If my party is lucky enough to be in office after the general election, it will also face challenges in encouraging people to adopt cross-cutting approaches. We have not cracked the nut in this regard.

I read newspaper reports to the effect that there appeared to be a difficulty in proceeding with the re-examination of the evidence relating to the Stardust tragedy. Is the Taoiseach of the view that we are in a position to deal with that matter? I am aware that he has invested a great deal of time in trying to address the matter but that it has proven difficult to put in place a process. We are all anxious that such a process is put in train.

Tribunal costs have been the subject of much discussion and the Tánaiste and Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform has been extremely vocal in respect of them. What is the position on the introduction of a new fees structure for tribunals? Do the Government's efforts remain on track or have they been postponed until after the general election or indefinitely?

What is the Taoiseach's view as regards the freedom of information restrictions introduced at the beginning of this Dáil's lifetime? I was of the opinion at the time that they were not warranted and that there was an element of circling the wagons to what occurred. The Freedom of Information Commissioner has stated the restrictions need to be relaxed and that a number of them are not justified. I accept that they were introduced on foot of a report from the high level group of Secretaries General but the latter was somewhat similar to asking turkeys to vote for Christmas. What is the Taoiseach's view with regard to relaxing some of the restrictions in order to allow the system to be more open? The general trend appears to be towards more, not less, openness. The Government reversed a trend that I felt was good and I did not see any occurrence of serious damage of the kind hyped up in the reports circulating at the time.

I should have welcomed the Taoiseach. I accept that he makes a great effort to come before the committee at this time each year.

On climate change, we are helping to pull the various Departments together. The Department for the Environment, Heritage and Local Government will continue to be the lead Department in this area. We are not responsible for monitoring but for ensuring the mechanisms and reporting systems are clear. The Government is to establish a commission on climate change which will provide an objective account on climate change and report to the Government through me. It will, in the light of the connection with the wider economic area, form part of the National Economic and Social Development Office.

I take Deputy Bruton's point that matters of this nature cut across the remits of several Departments and that, regardless of whether it is in an annual, three-year, five-year or seven-year programme, we should focus on deliverability. The Department of the Taoiseach has been endeavouring, across a range of areas, to bring coherence to programmes. We do so in respect of European Council and other issues.

On foreign affairs, we take the lead in respect of Northern Ireland issues. However, that is a different area. In respect of transport infrastructure PPPs which involve the input of several Departments, I chair the meetings and my Department sets the agenda in trying to encourage movement, remove blockages, keep the pressure on in certain matters and invite representatives from the various agencies to make presentations and answer questions from Ministers. This clearly helps and it was the whole concept behind the introduction of the Public Service Management Act ten years ago.

The issue of climate change is relevant to a range of Departments. While the Department of the Environment, Heritage and Local Government will continue to give the lead, we believe establishing a commission on climate change will put us in a position to try to ensure deliverability.

My point is that the new document makes no reference to the one which preceded it. Any honest comparison would indicate that something has gone radically wrong. That is not adequate.

I do not want to become involved in arguments regarding the document which embraces the progress made. However, it also shows that economic growth and other matters have increased the pressure and that we must refocus on trying to achieve our original targets. The figure for overall emissions is supposed to be 13% over 1990 levels. I understand it is now 24.5% - it was 28% or 29% at one stage - and we must ensure we move further towards the agreed target.

Progress has been made in a range of areas. I accept that not everything we set out to achieve in the 2000 document has come to pass. However, the new document sets out what we need to do.

The NDP was published by the Department of Finance which is responsible for the plan's evolution and the reporting of progress. My interest, as Head of Government, is that the NDP should be implemented. My Department's role is to clarify what is required of each Department. It is also charged with ensuring there are strategic priorities and that these are reflected in our policies and programmes. I take a direct involvement in many parts thereof, particularly the infrastructure issues, to which a large part of the NDP relates. Through social partnership, I have regular meetings with farming and other related groups. I also deal with the social inclusion aspects.

Deputy Bruton referred to educational disadvantage. There has been a significant improvement in this regard. In that context, I highlight the quantity and, I hope, quality of resources put in place to deal with disadvantage at first and second level. The Department of Education and Science has put in place initiatives to ensure resources will be targeted correctly and that it will not merely be a case of teachers being appointed willy-nilly across the entire system. The purpose of these initiatives is to ensure the pupil-teacher ratio will be reduced in the areas that need it most. Moves have also been made in encouraging young people to remain in school longer. I accept that certain young people continue to drop out of the system early. However, useful efforts have been made to target resources in the areas to which I refer.

It has proved difficult to make progress in the re-examination of the evidence relating to the Stardust tragedy. We have offered to have an independent eminent person assess all the material the families believe significant. I promised them that. However, the official view is that the issues are not as significant as they believe. I am not forming that judgment. I am not the competent person to do so. The families, who have clearly suffered and who Deputy Bruton and I know, deserve a fresh assessment. However, I want to be honest by saying that the technical, forensic and engineering information would not accord with their view. After this protracted period, they deserve to have an eminent person investigate the issues.

An issue also arises with regard to the level of financial support necessary and appropriate for them to present their case. Deputy Bruton will appreciate more than anybody that I cannot just accept their bid. However, we have made an offer, which I am advised is a generous one, in order to make a breakthrough. It has not yet been accepted and the negotiations are ongoing. I am anxious to resolve this issue. I accept wholeheartedly that they require financial support but the matter is being carefully assessed by our side. I believe my offer is generous and I do not want it to be a case of the State not being forthcoming or being ungenerous in its financial support. I want the issue to be signed off so that we can move forward and I have an official working full-time on bringing it to a conclusion. It would not be fair of me to set out the offer in detail.

With regard to the tribunals, the Minister for the Environment, Heritage and Local Government is still in talks with the Mahon tribunal. We have reached a satisfactory conclusion with the Moriarty tribunal, which is directly under my Department. The tribunal's work is nearing completion, with few, if any, public sessions remaining to be conducted, and the process of drafting the final report is about to commence if it has not already done so. This year should see the end of that tribunal. On the issue of the examination of fees, as members will see in my Department's Estimate, the outturn last year was very small and we did not use it. This year, we made provision for €10 million. When it comes to Mr. Justice Moriarty making the call on the allocation of costs, I have no idea what the figure will be. Anecdotal evidence suggests and certain people involved think my allocation is theirs. I just hope they are incorrect.

For the present, the existing fees will apply but the issue is being kept under review. As we approach the tenth anniversary, the Minister and the Government feel strongly in respect of the modules about which we are all aware and which remain to be completed that while people have the legal right to make their cases, they have created justifiable delays for the tribunal. These modules should be finished but the Government is concerned that they cannot continue indefinitely. We would like to see the investigation of these modules but do not want them to become a never ending spiral. The new lower fees apply to all other tribunals and commissions of inquiry, which have proven cost effective, in accordance with our proposals as originally set out.

The changes made to the Freedom of Information Act were designed to provide protection in certain clear circumstances. There was a great deal of controversy about the amending legislation and the certificate issued by Secretaries General to protect specific records. However, in practice, no certificates have been issued and I do not recall any that have even arisen for consideration. The concern was that people would run for cover by using the mechanism set out for certification to prevent the information from being made public. In regard to the deliberative process, issues under active consideration could be made public. That was a necessary change because we were almost reading the lines of matters still under discussion. That was an ill-advised provision to include in the original legislation. Although I cannot remember whether the principle Act was drafted while I was in office, it was wrong because the Government would be in an impossible position if an ongoing debate between two Departments on a policy issue was covered in the national media.

Things have settled down since the initial flow of information. The changes of 2003 brought a decline and it was quiet for a period but there has since been a steady increase in the number of requests and the costs have been fair. With regard to my opinion ten years on, subject to considering issues raised by the commissioner and others, I think the system and the overall culture is approximately right. It has been 25 years since I first sat at the Cabinet table and 20 since I first sat there as a Minister. I still miss the manuscript notes made on files in my early years, which revealed views throughout the system. Regardless of whether the notes are gone because of the Freedom of Information Act or changed systems, as an office holder, I miss them. I always enjoyed reading what the executive, administrative and assistant principal officers wrote. I am afraid they are gone like the swallows that leave in the autumn, and I have not seen that type of file for a long time. I do not know the reason for their departure but they are a loss to the system.

I join the Chairman and Deputy Bruton in welcoming the Taoiseach and the Minister of State, Deputy Kitt, to the select committee. The Taoiseach said he welcomed any suggestions for an improved method of presentation of the information before us. I suggest that it would be of some assistance in making a truly useful evaluation of all the data presented if the Estimates for 2006 were given in tandem with these two sets of charts. We have the provisional outturn for one section, along with the 2007 Estimates. Looking at the data from the Taoiseach's presentation and his preamble to this afternoon's discussion, some elements do not immediately appear to sit easily together.

The increase of 16% on the 2006 allocation was mentioned and it was attributed in part to a number of matters including the commission of investigation into certain aspects of the Dublin and Monaghan bombings. A check of the outturn for 2006 and the Estimate for 2007 show a significant downturn in terms of what is expected to be paid out in the coming year. The reality is the outturn represents figures which are way above those estimated for 12 months ago. We all have the information set aside. However, as an aid in terms of a single page evaluation of the information presented, not only should one have the 2006 provisional outturn but also the Estimate for 2006. This would aid a more particular perusal and evaluation of all that was presented to us this afternoon.

I understand the Taoiseach had a business-like and worthwhile meeting early today on the Northern Assembly with the First Minister designate and I welcome that report. I hope all such meetings will prove to be of similar character. Under the range of responsibilities of the Department of the Taoiseach, we note a small provision is made for the Forum for Peace and Reconciliation in the Estimate for 2007.

With regard to the outworking of the new political dispensation applying in the North of Ireland, do I understand the Government's responsibility towards the joint cost provision in terms of the North-South Ministerial Council and other such institutions directly arising from the Good Friday Agreement will come under the budget of the Department of Foreign Affairs? It is not reflected here. If I second-guess the situation correctly, with the advent of the letter of Mr. Paisley and Mr. McGuinness asking Mr. Hain to leave the island of Ireland post-haste it is time it came under the Department of the Taoiseach. I do not see any dimension for the Department of Foreign Affairs.

I appreciate we will consider these matters on an individual basis subsequently but I wish to be specific. Does the provision under the commission of investigation for 2007 indicate any decision on the Taoiseach's part for further steps to be taken as a result of the MacEntee report which will be published later this evening, the detail of which I am not privy to? Does the Taoiseach see himself in the short time before the upcoming general election or post same, initiating any of the inquiries sought by the campaigning group Justice for the Forgotten? Is there any prospect the Taoiseach might extend it into any of the other areas such as the murder of Eddie Fullerton in County Donegal?

It is apparent running through each of the various sections that huge tranches money are being set aside for legal performance in a variety of ways. It merits comment from the Taoiseach. I speak specifically on the Moriarty tribunal provision where an increase of 136% is signalled in the Estimate for 2007. A number of other provisions are made for other inquiries and tribunals which are taking place. With regard to the Office of the Attorney General, the single largest increase is attributable to the Law Reform Commission, a grant-in-aid total of almost €5 million in 2007 which represents an increase of 140%.

I also wish to comment on the exceptional increase in moneys provided for the local State solicitor service under the aegis of the Office of the Chief State Solicitor. This increased from €3.8 million to €11.8 million for 2007, which is a 209% increase on the outturn in 2006. Will the Taoiseach provide an explanation on why these very significant increases have been made across this range of areas, all of them serving the legal profession in one shape or another? With regard to the local State solicitor service, what happened to warrant such a significant increase for the current year?

I welcome the Taoiseach and Minister of State to the committee and I endorse the welcome of progress on Northern Ireland. The Taoiseach made an enormous personal investment in this issue and everyone wishes to acknowledge it.

With regard to the issue at hand, I was struck by the mention of an evidence-based approach in both presentations. The census was an important aspect of the presentation and a census of population has been taken every five years since 1981. On several occasions since I became a Member of the Dáil two years ago I heard it stated that in many cases where we lag behind in the delivery of services the cause is our success and we are playing catch-up.

I cannot see any serious evidence of the census of population being used with regard to the delivery of schools, class sizes, public transport and health services. It is not that we do not have the information. We spent €45 million on a census of population. I do not argue that we should not do so but that we should use it. Information is gathered with regard to sports and social capital. However, no evidence exists that when the information is gathered it informs the approach to spending. My constituency had the lowest spend of lottery grants last year per head of population. However, it has one of the largest increases in population. It does not stack up. I would like to see evidence of the census being used as we spend a great deal of money on it.

It is a pity the national spatial strategy did not predate the last national development plan. We are playing catch-up. I am concerned we will have the worst of all worlds where spending is determined on the national spatial strategy from the national development plan but the population growth will not mirror where the money is spent. Approximately 40% of the population growth in the census of population occurred in Dublin and the three surrounding counties. It would be acknowledged that there is a pressing need to play catch-up with regard to facilities and services. For example, if we spend what is projected with regard to the national spatial strategy, the worst of all worlds will be if we have not spent the money on where people are moving. The same applies to the census. To be parochial again, Kildare is now the fourth most populated county, overtaking Limerick county and city. It is not insignificant that there are growing pains with this expansion, along with frustration over delivery.

I wish to comment on public service modernisation. I am in favour of the use of modern technology in achieving a better output but decentralisation is a case of taking one's eye off the ball in the process. The public service embargo is an example. It seems there are only two sections where the embargo does not apply, the Defence Forces and local government. In Meath, there are 700 staff members for a population of 162,000. Kerry, which has 30,000 fewer people, has twice the staff. It is a very crude instrument for delivering services. This has an impact on the delivery of services in rapidly expanding areas. If we are considering modernisation, we must realise that one size does not fit all with regard to the embargo. The example I mentioned is a poor reflection on it.

Although we measure the number of people getting on buses, it is the people not getting on the buses that should be surveyed, or specifically the reason they are not using such transport. I am not always certain customer surveys are as comprehensive as they might be or if they give a true picture of what people may be thinking.

I am not sure about the amount of money identified for the Office of the Chief State Solicitor. Last year I raised the issue of how much was spent in legal fees in cases where parents would, for example, take the State to court for not providing appropriate education for children, particularly children with special educational needs. My question asked how much was spent in the period 2003-05. Some €20 million was spent on legal fees in such cases during that time.

There is a question mark over how that is presented in the figures for the office, and also with regard to whether we would have been better off spending the €20 million on the services. There is the question of whether even half the sum being spent on the services would have ensured the cases would not have gone to court. That would have been a better result for everyone.

The issue of broadband was mentioned by the Minister of State. Any improvement on the matter is to be welcomed as we have much catching up to do. In my constituency one of the main problems new communities have is getting a phone line installed, and it is not even a question of getting broadband. One can wait up to 12 months in an urban area like Celbridge for a phone line. We are really in the ha'penny place if we are talking about broadband when we cannot even provide a route for its installation.

There are serious inadequacies affecting people. I am not talking about people on hillsides but rather those within housing estates. Any improvement in the matter is welcome, although I know we depend to a great extent on companies in the private sector. A lack of such a basic provision as broadband inhibits the ability of people to function in an age where technology is so important.

The Minister of State, Deputy Kitt, is going to a meeting so I would ask for him to be allowed answer the questions directed to him.

It is very decent of the Taoiseach to let me in ahead of him and I appreciate it. I must attend a meeting of the CPP, where some important issues are to be dealt with.

From my knowledge of the CSO and working closely with it, I would disagree with the Deputy. The data is fantastic and is getting better all the time. It is digging into areas which are very important, a great example being the post-census national disability survey. It is providing very interesting data.

The Deputy's argument, a legitimate point, is whether the data is being used adequately. I would argue it is being used in such a way at national and local level. Thinking of the obvious data produced on issues such as inflation, which was dealt with during Question Time today, and the labour force, these are invaluable sources for Government planning, etc.

I am very conscious of the area represented by the Deputy and I know it intimately, for clear reasons. Local authorities and agencies are making very good use of the data they are being provided with. I previously stated that we are victims of our success as an economy, with one of the outputs being the population increase, which is approximately 22% per year. With a census operating every five years, it is physically impossible for all of us to try to cope, particularly with the pressures of a booming economy and population increase. People do their best, and the quarterly household survey is the one mechanism that helps us greatly in that regard.

My net point to the Deputy is that the agencies at national and local level, including disabilities groups and the Departments of Health and Children and Education and Science, are making fantastic use of this data in their forward planning. I acknowledge that pressures exist, particularly in areas such as that represented by the Deputy.

I accept the Deputy's acknowledgement that progress is being made. The data I have indicates that broadband growth has been substantial from 2004, when we had 56,000 subscribers, to 2006, when we had 517,300 subscribers. There was a 90% increase in 2006 and the target for the end of 2007 is 700,000 subscribers. Big business is well served, although our view is the SME sector could do better.

The focus must clearly be on the society in general and the ordinary consumer. My understanding, from my involvement with the information society, is very clear and our focus has been very much on the individual and technology. That would include the issues raised by the Deputy. The economy and the business sectors have been well served and we will continue to focus on them. However, my emphasis, and that of the Taoiseach, has been on the information society, to focus on the individuals, especially those who need access to technology. This would include older people and disabled groups.

That is my response in summary and if there are no other questions I will leave. I thank the Taoiseach for letting me in ahead of him.

I thank all the Deputies for their comments on the ongoing work regarding the peace process and restoring the institutions in Northern Ireland.

With regard to Deputy Ó Caoláin's question about the North-South bodies and institutions, the resources are in the Department of Foreign Affairs in the first instance. That is from a staffing point of view, the secretariat and the secretariat in Armagh. They would also be across practically all Departments, particularly the implementation bodies, but also in areas where there are no implementation bodies, such as those dealing with agriculture and the marine. They would have their own people.

When taken together it is quite a substantial number of people and a substantial cost, but the core group would be in the Department of Foreign Affairs and my own Department. The seconded figures would come from all Departments, which would bring the total to a few hundred. We have kept that structure together during the unfortunate period when the institutions were ceased by the British Government. Everything is still intact and ready to go, and these people have continued their work and activities, even if it was in a more frustrated fashion over the past while.

The reason the figure for the Moriarty tribunal in this year's Estimate has increased is because it is coming to an end. Third party fees will be settled this year or in 2008. As I told Deputy Bruton, I do not know what the ultimate figure will be, but we have made this provision without knowing what the claims will be. The figure is our guesstimate, not our estimate, until we see what happens.

As the Deputy rightly pointed out, there is a significant increase in the local State solicitor service figure, the reason for which is that local State solicitors are viewed as part-time service providers to the State, not a group employed by it. In all, there are 32 local State solicitors. Each county, with the exception of Dublin, which is served by the Office of Chief State Solicitor and the State prosecution service of the DPP, has a State solicitor. Some of the heavily populated counties have more than one. For example, Cork has four and Limerick, Tipperary, Galway and Kildare have two each.

These solicitors are appointed by the Attorney General following open competition and their remuneration is divided into three elements, namely, personal salaries, staff costs - in none of these cases is it just an individual, as most of the solicitors have significant offices, and the staff costs cover State solicitors' costs in providing a support service to State work - and expenses to meet overheads relating to the provision of solicitors' services on behalf of the State.

The Nally report of some years ago recommended that this service be transferred to the DPP. While the report has been implemented, the negotiating group for State solicitors has, for some years, been in negotiations. There has been substantial disagreement about their service and remuneration, but the negotiations are coming to a conclusion. It is anticipated that the transfer will occur, if not this month, next month. The negotiations have been ongoing for several years, during which time no increase in State solicitors' remuneration was given. Provision has been made for a package of increases to bring their remuneration up to date. The new service will commence.

The Minister of State, Deputy Kitt, has answered some of Deputy Catherine Murphy's questions on the population census. I listened to what she said about some of the services in the area in question and issues around lottery funding. In a light-hearted fashion, I came to the conclusion that the reason the lottery figures were down when the Minister for Finance appeared before the committee is that the projects were all done.

The figure is per capita. The Taoiseach should not try that.

It used to seem like that to some of us.

I would not think so.

I accept the Deputy's point. On modernisation of the public service, our Department makes a considerable effort. The challenge is to make services more efficient. The Deputy has a valid point in that sometimes surveys try to analyse those who do not like something to determine their reasons. Broadly, we have been seeing far greater satisfaction with public services for a number of years.

Our Department, working with the Department of Finance in some cases, but taking the lead increasingly in others, is driving modernisation. This process does not just involve Departments. For example, Revenue and other agencies are involved. The Revenue Commissioners have built a considerable reputation for a good and friendly service, although people do not like taxes being taken. We continue to modernise across many areas.

Regarding Deputy Ó Caoláin's point about the figures, I ask that he examine our outputs on pages 10 and 11 of the document. We have tried to take his point. The information is on other pages, but pages 10 and 11 break it down and give the provisional outturn and Revised Estimate for 2006 and the comparable figure for 2007. I take it this is the Deputy's point. This issue is reflected in the figures in the categories and strategic objectives throughout the sectors. We have completed that matter.

The overall legal costs have increased substantially when one adds the figures across all of the Estimates that have been before the committee in recent weeks and months. Legal costs are a function of the volume of legal activity. Unit costs are fees. We are a more litigious society, which affects the Government like everyone else, such as in judicial reviews.

We have increased the number of salaried lawyers with the appropriate skills to give advice to Departments, which I mentioned in my opening remarks, and to help in drafting legislation. For much of our legal work, we pay lawyers in private practice, which gives the State choice and access to the best talent. I welcome the steps being taken to increase competition in the supply of legal services. The Tánaiste is implementing other measures to change the way legal services are organised to better control costs. Like other consumers, the State will benefit from these changes.

Deputy Catherine Murphy made a point about the cost of special needs provision. As many of those fall under the Department of Education and Science, I do not have all of the details, but the State must defend cases. The fees paid reflect market rates. The figure of €20 million includes all costs, covering awards made against the State and paid by various Departments. The figures in respect of the Departments of Education and Science and Health and Children are the largest. The figure also includes fees paid by the Chief State Solicitor's office, which amounted to approximately €1.5 million in the past three years. In that light, the figures are not quite so large.

I welcome the Taoiseach. After a busy and successful day with Dr. Paisley, I wish him well in his endeavours regarding Northern Ireland.

Will the Exchequer's contribution to the Northern Government in respect of infrastructural development be on an annual basis? On climate change, is the new European Council regulation in line with the Kyoto Protocol? It is interesting that the head of an industrial nation has been supportive of Europe's climate change policy. The Taoiseach attended that meeting.

The Taoiseach has expanded many of his Department's services. In light of the MacEntee report, the task force on active citizenship and so on, will the Taoiseach elaborate on how those expansions came about and are proceeding? Another interesting element in the Taoiseach's statement concerns how much we will benefit from the open skies agreement, particularly Aer Lingus.

I do not doubt the Taoiseach will try to accommodate my simple questions. I wish him well in his endeavours during the next 12 months and in the Northern talks, which are important. I hope we will see a Government on 6 May, which would be an achievement for the Taoiseach. Were it not for his efforts in the past ten years, we would not see peace in our land or a Government in the North, which is important to the success of our economy.

I thank Deputy O'Keeffe for his kind words. The climate change strategy foresees a period beyond the Kyoto agreement. That is how we must approach the idea now, implementing the issues we mentioned earlier to ensure we achieve what we must.

In the national development plan, we included €1 billion for the North, although in some areas there would be further possibilities because the figures would not be spread out. We have provided €35 million for the Ulster Canal and money for the motorway between Larne and Belfast. The latest resources we put in place in the package agreed with Chancellor Gordon Brown amount to €580 million, or £400 million. That money involves two projects about which we are anxious, the Dublin-Derry-Letterkenny road and the Sligo-Manorhamilton-Enniskillen-Dundalk road, which is the axis across the Border.

There is also unspecified provision in the national development plan for the rejuvenation of Border areas, where tourism projects could be co-financed. There are no set amounts but we would be anxious to help with joint projects. I discussed this at length with Dr. Paisley, as I did with Gerry Adams and Martin McGuinness recently. There are many ways to enhance tourism activities. I made the point earlier that the possibility exists for co-operation in agriculture, the all-island energy market, which comes into being in November, and other areas where we could contribute to and assist in the development of Northern Ireland, which is important in the context of an all-island economy.

Th open skies policy was a major issue. It looked as if the deal had been lost because of the British position. We had supported an open skies agreement and the European Union position throughout. I had many discussions on the issue with President Barroso because it was important to Ireland. We have very few destinations in the United States and many locations in America cannot provide flights to Ireland. The EU open skies agreement changes this and Aer Lingus has moved quickly on the new routes. It will bring more people to Ireland and offer more choice to Irish flyers. It will help tourism and investment by allowing the IDA to go to new areas to market Ireland.

Prime Minister Blair was helpful in the issues we raised. I cannot say it was the only reason he removed the ultimate objection but he was helpful, as was President Bush, when we raised this issue on St. Patrick's Day. I am grateful to both of them because if this had become a protracted wrangle, it would have continued for another few years. We can move ahead, which is very important for Aer Lingus, which has the capacity and aeroplanes and can operate the new routes from September.

In fairness to my colleagues in the Department, during 2006 we had to work on the commemorations of the 1916 Rising, the commemorations of the Battle of the Somme, the MacEntee report, which was delayed many times but that will be published today, and the task force on active citizenship. My Department took on those challenges while managing to decrease the staff in the Department in line with the Department of Finance guidelines. In terms of productivity, our output levels were good and I thank the Secretary General and all the staff of the Department who took on those extra functions and cross-departmental work while still decreasing staff numbers.

I thank the Taoiseach, the Minister of State and their officials for assisting the committee with its consideration of the Revised Estimates.

The annual output statement in the document is interesting. The DPP, however, provides targets but reports on nothing in the past. He stated that 40% of prosecution decisions will be taken within two weeks, an interesting target but there was no report of progress.

The other agencies give activities but have no targets. We all see the work of fiction on the production of Bills at the start of each Dáil session but no effort is made in the section dealing with the legislation drafting service to reflect what is presented to the Dáil. Bills are subsequently pushed back. There are problems in this area but meaningful targets would be worthwhile. It would force the system to prioritise and state which Bills we will try to drive through in a given year. The same could be said of other areas where asterisks are put in for targets. We must have targets and activities reported so we can make a judgment.

No attempt is made by the CSO to collect data on business costs. The National Competitiveness Council and similar bodies tell us how crucial this is. While the consumer price index tells us the cost of household goods, there is a case for a business price index that would price a basket of business purchases and compare it with our competitors.

I thank the Taoiseach for his responses but in pages 10 and 11 of the report, while the approach is broadly in line with my suggestions, these are summaries under group headings that do not coincide with the individual areas of expenditure either under administration or other services as tabulated in the circulated Estimate for the current year. It would not present any difficulty to rearrange this in future years. That was the purpose of my mentioning the matter.

The Taoiseach did not respond to my point regarding the commission of investigation and the provision in the current year even though Mr. MacEntee has concluded his report. Are outstanding moneys due to Mr. MacEntee? Does he have a further function? Is it indicative of the intent of the Taoiseach to follow up on recommendations that may be included in his report? I am speaking in the dark because I have not seen it. The figure is €450,000, not small change.

Will the Taoiseach comment on the major increase in the provision for consultancy services in his Department for the current year? It is an increase of 460%. Outside consultancy should be the course of last resort. We would not wish to see the Taoiseach in the same boat as the CEO of the HSE, lashing out €1 million over 15 months, with overtime rates of €1,500 per day. It might not be the incumbent Taoiseach in any event.

I agree with Deputy Bruton's point about progress and meaningful targets. The area he picked is not the best one at this point but overall I agree. The problem with the Office of the Chief Parliamentary Counsel is that it is a service provider. Normally, difficulties lie with Departments. Whenever I implement legislative measures or seek to determine why there are delays, it is because Departments lack information to complete the heads of a Bill. As a general rule, we seek to improve this area. Meaningful targets are important. The Central Statistics Office is working on developing price services. I am not familiar with the model or design but it will be helpful.

We will take on board Deputy Ó Caoláin's elaboration of figures. The figures for the MacEntee investigation cover the period up to the end of his present work. Mr. MacEntee has made it clear that he does not wish to continue with further aspects but if we must bring in someone else, which is a possibility, we will make provision for it.

Very little was spent on consultancy services in 2006. Some projects were delayed until 2007. These are priorities with which we seek to deal. During 2006 much effort was made in respect of Towards 2016. We must follow up on what was negotiated. The commission of an independent analysis of the operation of the Irish annuity market was undertaken under the auspices of the pension review, established under the terms of Towards 2016. It is quite expensive. We have also provided for consultancy and contingency carried out on studies regarding the peace process and North-South co-operation. It is a new and interesting study. The figure also relates to work on facilitating statutory instruments, the business process review. Those three projects take up most of the cost provision.

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