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Select Committee on Social Affairs debate -
Thursday, 9 Sep 1993

SECTION 11.

I move amendment No. 61a:

In page 12, subsection (1), to delete lines 31 to 37 and substitute the following:

"in which a married couple—

(i) ordinarily resided at any time during the period of 3 months before the commencement of subsection (2), or

(ii) so reside at any time after such commencement,

as their sole or principal residence and includes any rights or privileges exercisable by either or both of the spouses over any other land, being rights or privileges necessary for the reasonable, beneficial use, occupation and enjoyment of the residence.".

Amendment agreed to.

I move amendment No. 61b:

In page 12, subsection (2) (b), line 39, to delete "section" and substitute "subsection".

Amendment agreed to.

I move amendment No. 62:

In page 12, subsection (2) (a), line 41 and 42, to delete "and in the absence of any express agreement to the contrary".

On amendment No. 62, we undertook the deletion of "and in the absence of any express agreement to the contrary. That is consequential on the decision to apply the declaration in writing method of opt out to mobile homes, in amendment No. 64. The effect of this is to put mobile homes on the same footing with regard to opt out as the more standard type of matrimonial home. These were originally intended to be moved with amendment No. 2 which was designed to bring a number of sections into operation immediately the Act is passed. The committee seemed to be unaware that they were being taken then so it was agreed that they be moved when reached so as to allow Deputies to note that fact and amend if need be.

Amendment agreed to.

I move amendment No. 63:

In page 12, subsection (2) (b), line 45 and 46, to delete "and in the absence of any express agreement to the contrary".

Amendment agreed to.

Amendment No. 63a is in the name of the Minister. Amendments Nos. 70a, 70b, 70c, 71a, 71b, 71c, 71d, 71e, 71f, 71g and 71h are consequential.

I move amendment No. 63a:

In page 13, subsection (3), line 1, after "6" to insert ",16".

These are purely drafting amendments.

Amendment agreed to.

I move amendment No. 64:

In page 13, between lines 3 and 4, to insert the following subsection:

"(4) (a) If a spouse who by virtue of the operation of paragraph (a) or (b) of subsection (2) (and not otherwise) becomes or would become joint owner of the mobile home concerned makes a declaration in writing that either such paragraph shall cease to apply, or shall not apply, in relation to the home, that paragraph shall cease to apply, or shall not apply, as the case may be, in relation to it.

(b) The Minister may by regulations provide that a declaration under paragraph (a) shall be in a specified form or a form to the like effect.".

Amendment agreed to.
Section 11, as amended, agreed to.
Section 12 agreed to.
NEW SECTION.

I move amendment No. 65:

In page 13, before section 13, to insert the following new section:

13.—(1) No court fee shall be payable in respect of a certified copy of an order of the court under section 6 (1).

(2) No fee shall be payable in respect of registration in the Land Registry under section 6 (7) (a), 7 (2) (a) or 8 (1) (a) or registration in the Registry of Deeds of a document referred to in section 6 (7), 7 (2) (b) or 8 (1) (b).".

This amendment replaces the existing text of section 13 which provided that no stamp duties be payable on agreements under section 7 in relation to opting out. This provision is no longer necessary because of the earlier amendment to that section which replaces an opting out agreement made by both spouses with a unilateral declaration by the spouse who benefits from the operation of section 4.

The Revenue Commissioners are examining the matter of stamp duty and, if necessary, I will move an amendment on Report Stage to make it clear that no stamp duty will be payable. It is also desirable to clarify the position about liability for court fees for a certified copy of a court order under section 6(1) which disapplies section 4 and also about liability for payment of registration fees from registering a declaration under sections 6, 7 or 8.

Section 14 of the Family Home Protection Act exempts from payment of these fees any transaction creating a joint tenancy between spouses in respect of a family home but this exemption may not be adequate to deal with the automatic vesting of a joint tenancy by virtue of the enactment of this Bill. It is better to provide expressly for an exemption from court and registration fees in those circumstances. I am sure Members will be pleased with that amendment.

Amendment agreed to.
Question, "That section 13 not stand part of the Bill", put and agreed to.
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