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Special Committee on the Finance Bill, 1992 debate -
Tuesday, 12 May 1992

SECTION 78.

Amendments 76 and 77 are related and can be taken together.

I move amendment No. 76:

In page 108, subsection (3), line 35, to delete "relevant".

The purpose of the amendment will be very clear to the Minister but may not be clear to everybody who would not have followed it so closely. Essentially section 78 allows 100 per cent relief for development expenditure in relation to capital allowances and changes. It is a very significant improvement on the 1985 Bill which was at 40 per cent. It is giving very generous relief and I would like to acknowledge that. It is a very substantial improvement. However, I am arguing that subsection (3) of this section should be amended to delete in the second last line "relevant" and to leave that reading:

"Assets representing development expenditure shall not be treated, for the purposes of subsection (1) of Section 241 of the Income Tax Act, 1967, as being in use for the purposes of a petroleum trade at the end of any chargable period or its basis prior which ends before the commencement of production of petroleum in commercial quantities from the field. . ."

I hope that this is technically achieving what I am trying to do. It was the best indication I could get of how to achieve an objective which was to allow the cost of the development of a second field to be set off against the profits from a first field. This gives us an opportunity to repeat our analysis of the particular difficulties of the Irish oil and gas exploration industry. The Minister for Finance and the Minister for Energy have admitted this. We have all faced up to it. The reality of the limited level of activity indicates the difficulty very clearly. We have all accepted that we need a regime which is not just equal to those of our partners, but which will balance our particular geological difficulties, our problems of scale and the history of the relatively poor return for drilling in our waters to date. Because of all of those factors we need a regime that is not just comparable to, but is even better than that of our competitors, who have a much more favourable operation and marketplace in which to work. Therefore, it seems rather strange to me, that having conceded an enormous amount and having put together a very generous package, the Minister did not concede the two or three remaining requests for concessions which could help in development and that they are not included in the total. I can see why interest payments were resisted. I understand efforts were made to have these included under setup procedures, in the Bill. But I do not understand why this particular request by the industry was refused, because, together with the particular problems here, there are general problems in the industry, exploration is a very costly and very protracted activity. Sums expended on development may not be recovered until production has commenced. That is fair enough in the first field if somebody is that committed. The Minister questioned the reservations he had about this. He was concerned that perhaps people might begin development for its own sake. The Minister for Energy has outlined the incredible costs involved in exploration or development. It would cost anything from £3 million for an easy well to over £10 million for an expensive one. Is it realistic to suggest that companies would engage in this purely to cancel out a tax liability? If that is a problem, why does this concession exist in the major neighbouring regimes and why has it not proved to be a very serious problem in the British and Norwegian taxation systems?

I would like to impress very strongly upon the Minister that, if we are doing the job, we might as well complete it. We might as well ensure that we actually greatly improve our regime. Perhaps the Minister might expand a little on his reply in which he said that we are giving 100 per cent concessions which are not available elsewhere and that this, to an extent, balances out the failure to grant this particular concession which is available generally. Perhaps the could convince me if he indicated how much more generous the write-offs we are offering are than those offered by the British or the Norwegian tax regime. In relation to this particular concession I want to ensure that the concessions are not limited to each field separately. As I mentioned earlier, once the concession on the second field becomes operable, it can then be applied to profits on the first field, in any event. This lacks logic and it compares most unfavourably with the UK. For corporation tax purposes, once a company has commenced trading, by reference to a first field, in the writing off of the cost of developing second and subsequent fields begins in the year in which the costs are incurred, not in the year in which production occurs. This also has implications in terms of further exploration. Many of our finds are marginal, as the Minister indicated. To date, the indications are that many of them would be in the small to middle region. If this is the pattern for the future, this extra incentive could be crucial to a company even considering development. This package of measures is designed to encourage more oil and gas exploration and hopefully more finds. I cannot see why the Minister would hold off giving this further concession, which the industry itself deems to be valuable.

The purpose of providing the tax incentive of 100 per cent allowance for development expenditure is to encourage the production of oil and gas. The 100 per cent allowance will be given when the expenditure to be written off has begun to result in the production of oil and gas from a new field in commercial quantities. The Deputy argued that when the developers move to the second field they are than in a position to get the full range of incentives for the first field. That is precisely the point. Then you have achieved the objective. Last year we had one field. We are trying to encourage exploration. We are trying to get fields developed. We are trying to give incentives for people to get back into business. It cannot be all one way. The position was that everything was given for just a few fields. Developers could get all of the tax incentives for a few fields. That would have the effect of confining action to just a few limited fields. If that continued, there would be only two or three fields in 1992 or 1993. That is not the purpose of these very generous rates. Deputy Flaherty has conceded that there is an improvement in the percentages, with the 40 per cent write-off increased to 100 per cent write-off. There is no 100 per cent write-off in the United Kingdom which also has a higher rate of charge. The incentive is considerable, and the purpose of this field by field restriction of development expenditure allowance is to ensure that the allowance has that intended incentive effect. This is the mechanism used to try and ensure that this incentive actually operates.

Development expenditure allowance rewards oil producers who persist in development of a new field to the point of commercial production. The producer becomes entitled to a very generous allowance when the allowance or incentive has had its intended effect. That is when it has encouraged the development and production of oil and gas from the new field. As should be the case for any well targeted tax incentive, the relief only becomes available when the activity encouraged by the incentive has clearly commenced. I know, and the Minister for Energy has explained to us, the technicalities and realities involved in trying to develop a field. I acknowledge that there is a considerable lead-in time between development expenditure in a new field and commercial production. Therein lies the incentive for people to come in, develop and keep developing. Otherwise, not only would we have a scheme that was far more generous than anybody else's but it would not have the desired effect, which is to get action.

Although I am disappointed with the Minister, I can understand his difficulties. He has given away quite a lot on this Bill. I suppose he has to look after the take, to a degree. I would refer again to the Minister for Energy's figures as to the total value to the State of the Marathon find and its exploitation to date. I think he referred to the figure of 1.3 billion in value to the State——

2.3 billion.

2.3 billion, yes, even more impressive, that makes my case even better. Of that, the Minister said that two billion, approximately, related to the value of imports substituted and only 300 million related to direct contribution to the Exchequer. I know the Minister is under some pressure. The question as to whether the industrialists were happy with this Bill was raised earlier. They are very happy, by and large. This is one of the remaining measures they would like to see included in it. Given the value to the State, over and above the tax take, of a find, or an additional find, if this is such a give-away measure, why does it exist in the two major competing regimes? I do not think that Maggie Thatcher's Britain is noted for unnecessary handouts. That is worth looking at again or has the Minister closed his mind to it entirely?

It is not a question of a closed mind. The basic intention is to give incentives for exploration. As we said earlier, the scheme would be monitored to see if there were loopholes in it, whether we were losing money for the Exchequer or whether it was producing its desired effect. It has been negotiated on the basis that it will have the desired effect and it is attractive because it has to be attractive. I can assure Deputy Flaherty that along with the interests of industry and, generally, the practitioners in the business, the Department of Energy and the Department of Finance will see how this operates.

On amendment 76, is the Deputy pressing her amendment?

Yes, I would like to press my amendment.

Amendment put and declared lost.
(Deputies Finucane, Noonan (Limerick-East), Flaherty and Quinn dissenting).

I move amendment No. 77:

In page 108, subsection (3), lines 35 and 36, to delete "in connection with which the assets were provided".

Amendment put and declared lost.
(Deputies Finucane, Noonan (Limerick-East), Flaherty and Quinn dissenting).
Section 78 agreed to.
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