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Special Committee Pigs and Bacon Bill, 1934 debate -
Thursday, 11 Apr 1935

SECTION 143.

(1) It shall not be lawful, during any period appointed to be a sale period by a price order, for any licensee or registered minor curer to purchase or for any person to sell to a licensee or a registered minor curer—
(a) any non-factory-purchased pig of a class fixed by such order at a sum other than the following sum, namely, a sum calculated by reference to the weight of such pig and the price fixed by such order for non-factory-purchased pigs of that class, less the appropriate amount;
(c) any carcase of a non-factory-purchased pig at a sum other than—
(i) in case such order fixes grades of classes of carcases of non-factory-purchased pigs, the following sum, namely, a sum calculated by reference to the weight of such carcase and the price fixed by such order for carcases of non-factory-purchased pigs of a grade and class corresponding to the grade and class of such carcase, less the appropriate amount, or
(ii) in any other case, the following sum, namely, a sum calculated by reference to the weight of such carcase and the price fixed by such order for carcases of non-factory-purchased pigs of a class corresponding to the class of such carcase, less the appropriate amount.
(2) In this section the expression " the appropriate amount" in relation to any pig or carcase sold in a particular sale area means the sum of the following amounts:—
(a) a sum equal to the freight allowance for the time being fixed in respect of such area by a freight allowance order; and
(b) in case such pig or carcase is purchased by a licensee—
(i) a sum equal to the sum for the time being prescribed for the purposes of the levy payable to the Board by licensees under the provisions of this Part of this Act relating to levy payable by licensees to the Pigs Marketing Board; and
(ii) a sum equal to the sum for the time being prescribed under the provisions of this Act relating to fees payable by licensees; and
(iii) a sum equal to the sum for the time being fixed as the insurance allowance; and
(f) in case such pig or carcase is weighed on a weighing machine provided by such licensee or registered minor curer, a sum equal to the sum (if any) customarily chargeable by such licensee or registered minor curer for weighing one pig or one carcase (as the case may be).

Minister for Agriculture

I beg to move amendments Nos. 150, 151 and 152, which are really consequential:—

In sub-section (1), paragraph (a), page 59, to insert at the end of the paragraph the words " the freight allowance and the buying allowance ".

In sub-section (1), paragraph (c), page 60, line 13, to insert after the word " amount " the words " the freight allowance, and the buying allowance ".

In sub-section (1), paragraph (c), page 60, line 19, to insert after the word " amount " the words " the freight allowance, and the buying allowance ".

Amendments agreed to.

Minister for Agriculture

I beg to move amendment No. 153, which is consequential, too:—

In sub-section (2), page 60, to delete in line 21 the words " in a particular sale area ".

This refers to a particular sale area. The only reason for having it in the Bill is that it would place an obligation on the Minister to define a particular sale area. By removing those words he leaves himself the option of fixing Saorstát Eireann if he so desires. He is determined to remove that obligation from his shoulders to define a particular area.

Minister for Agriculture

I think it should be removed.

To describe it as a consequential amendment is, to say the least, stretching the meaning of that word.

Minister for Agriculture

It is a wide word.

Amendment agreed to.
Amendments Nos. 154 and 155 agreed to:—
In sub-section (2), page 60, to delete paragraph (a).
In sub-section (2), paragraph (b), page 60, line 33, to delete the words " under the provisions" and to substitute the words " by the Minister under the provisions of Part II."
Amendment No. 156 not moved.

The following amendment appears in the name of Deputy McGovern:—

In sub-section (2) to delete clause (f)

The clause reads:—

In case such pig or carcase is weighed on a weighing machine provided by such licensee or registered minor curer, a sum equal to the sum (if any) customarily chargeable by such licensee or registered minor curer for weighing one pig or one carcase (as the case may be).

We do not see why the factory should charge for the weighing of pigs brought to it.

Minister for Agriculture

That provision is only intended to apply where factories have to provide scales at fairs and public places.

Reading the paragraph one would not think that it applied to scales at public fairs at all.

Minister for Agriculture

The paragraph does not say " provided by the factory "; it says, " provided by the licensee." In any event we will look into it. This was only meant to cover cases where the scales was provided by the factory at fairs or public places. We will ensure that weighing at the factory is excluded.

Amendment not moved.
Section 143, as amended, agreed to.
Section 144, agreed to.
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