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Dáil Éireann Debate, Wednesday - 24 September 2008

Wednesday, 24 September 2008

Questions (15, 16)

Willie Penrose

Question:

112 Deputy Willie Penrose asked the Tánaiste and Minister for Enterprise, Trade and Employment the steps she is taking to stem the number of job losses, in view of the fact that the numbers on the live register have increased by more than 70,000 in little more than 12 months; if she will provide new training opportunities for those who have lost their jobs; if she will encourage the creation of new employment opportunities; and if she will make a statement on the matter. [31094/08]

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Denis Naughten

Question:

113 Deputy Denis Naughten asked the Tánaiste and Minister for Enterprise, Trade and Employment the steps she is taking to address the challenges within the labour market as highlighted by the quarterly national household survey; and if she will make a statement on the matter. [31355/08]

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Oral answers (24 contributions)

I propose to take Questions Nos. 112 and 113 together.

The live register is not designed to measure unemployment. It includes part-time, seasonal and casual workers entitled to unemployment benefit. The total number of people recorded on the live register for August 2008 is 247,384, showing an increase of about 73,000 in the 12-month period.

Employment and unemployment are measured by the quarterly national household survey, QNHS, and published by the Central Statistics Office. In the second quarter of 2008, the most recent quarter for which data is available, employment has increased by 6,900 over 12 months to a current total of 2,108,500. Unemployment increased by 15,200 in the same period to 115,500. The unemployment rate was 5.2%, which compares favourably to the EU 27 members' average unemployment rate of 6.8%.

While the level of employment growth is disappointing, the fall in employment in the construction sector in the past year is a major factor. The recent easing of employment growth comes after many years of extraordinary growth in the labour force and employment, which could not have lasted indefinitely. Since the second quarter of 2005, employment has grown by 176,900 with unemployment increasing by only 29,000 in the same period. It is generally accepted that the rate of growth in the economy and in employment experienced over the past few years could not continue.

FÁS, as the national training and employment authority, is providing a range of proactive job-related services, supports and programmes, to assist individuals to return to the labour market.

As regards the economic situation and the impact on the labour market, the focus is now on flexibility in the delivery of employment and training programmes so those who are affected by the slowdown and by unemployment can be assisted appropriately and in good time.

FÁS and the Department of Social and Family Affairs are working together to respond quickly to the rising live register numbers. For example, they have agreed that redundant workers will be referred immediately to FÁS rather than wait for three months on the live register as was previously the case. FÁS has also established a training fund to enable a speedy response to identified re-training needs for low skilled and redundant craft workers. Alongside the local employment services provided by area based partnerships, FÁS is currently gearing up its employment services to provide increased capacity for expected increased referrals from the live register. FÁS will be providing a range of certified short, flexible and modular programmes designed to upskill redundant workers so they can enhance their prospects of securing employment. A number of programmes are already in place and the frequency and range of these will be expanded over the coming months. A range of actions is being implemented by FÁS for those affected by the construction slowdown, including a focus on providing retraining opportunities for redundant construction workers in emerging areas within the construction sector. This will include retraining in the following — the installation of sustainable technologies, environmental activity and compliance and regulatory work. FÁS will also assist individuals in any way it can to seek employment in construction in other EU countries. FÁS has held a European construction jobs fair for employers from other EU countries.

Discussions concerning the 2009 budget are ongoing. The budget for FÁS is agreed on the basis of detailed discussions between FÁS, my Department and the Department of Finance in the context of the annual Estimates process and will be announced on budget day. My Department is commencing a review of the labour market programmes, including training programmes, that it funds. The review will examine these programmes in terms of efficiency and effectiveness and will draw conclusions about the adequacy and balance of resources in the context of current and future labour market policy challenges taking into account the recommendations of the national skills strategy.

The enterprise development agencies of my Department, including IDA Ireland and Enterprise Ireland, are working to ensure that we continue to grow the economy and jobs even in the current more challenging environment. The pipeline of new business for which IDA Ireland is competing is as strong as at any time in recent years. To facilitate this we need to ensure that our competitiveness is sustained into the future.

I ask Members to ensure their mobile telephones are switched off and not simply on silent mode.

I do not know whether I am living on the same planet as the Government and the Minister of State. This Government is imbued with inertia, as illustrated by the response I received today, which can be best described as lethargic and limp. Is the Minister of State trying to tell me that the lists of people who have lost jobs in Waterford, Cappoquin, Tipperary, Tullamore, Cork and Edenderry are figments of my imagination? I am aware that projects are in the pipeline, including one announced by the Minister in Athlone, but these have been under development for the past two years. They did not turn up last night.

The Government is aware that unemployment levels have increased significantly. The HSE is reported to be about to shed 1,800 jobs. Company liquidations rose by 71% during the first half of the year. In August, 247,384 people were on the live register, which represents an increase of 73,178 on the figure for August 2007, 65,935 on the beginning of the year and 45,628 since the election of Deputy Cowen as Taoiseach.

Is the Minister of State aware that the county enterprise boards, which have been an important stimulant for the economy at the micro level, have not had been able to spend one shilling in capital funding since April? Is it not time to expand the remit of the boards to fill the gap between Enterprise Ireland's activities and what the boards are permitted to do? Let us have some innovation rather than sterility.

If the Government wants to take positive action, why can it not redirect the construction sector it loves so well by bringing forward a major schools building programme? This would give employment to those who lose their jobs in construction, provide much needed accommodation for the 40,000 children currently housed in prefabs and allow the State to offer softer tender prices and better value for money. Why not proceed with a national insulation scheme? The Minister for Communications, Energy and Natural Resources, Deputy Ryan, believes such a scheme is already in place. Talk about living in an ivory tower; the moment he gets off his bicycle he forgets where he is going.

The country's county councils do not even have a shilling to pay disabled person grants for mobility and housing adaptation. Small construction companies could focus on this type of project, thereby creating employment. These grants also provided important comforts to elderly people by allowing them to stay in their own homes.

Why is the IDA trying to sell lands which it bought in 1973 at the current market value to local authorities which want to develop incubator units that would stimulate the economy?

The Minister of State should get on the road with new ideas and new innovation because that is what we need. The Government is too apathetic and complacent. Anybody can steer a ship on a calm sea but the mark of greatness is steering it through rough waters. The Government has failed that test miserably.

The Deputy asked a number of questions and I will try to deal with the issues of substance.

They are all substantive. I will take no snide comments from the Government benches. I deal with real people.

The Deputy is a man of substance himself.

I always stood for what I believed in.

I admire that in the Deputy.

I may disagree with that.

The quarterly national household survey, which is published by the Central Statistics Office, compiles figures for people who are unemployed. The live register by itself is not as accurate because the people reported may seek benefits as casual or seasonal workers.

They are all workers.

In regard to the IDA and the pipeline, the Deputy should not dismiss the challenges that exist——

I am not dismissing them.

——and the competition in the global market for foreign direct investment. We are competitive with other countries in terms of a flexible workforce, low corporation taxes and highly educated third-level graduates and Ireland is actively pursuing direct investment.

For fear that the Deputy takes these matters for granted, it is important that we set out the success of IDA Ireland rather than talk ourselves down. Zimmer Holdings, a global leader in medical devices, is establishing a new €88 million manufacturing operations base in Shannon, County Clare and is expected to create 250 jobs. This is a collaborative effort between IDA Ireland and Shannon Development. Unum is establishing a strategic software centre in Carlow town with the support of IDA Ireland. This investment will create up to 200 high level positions. Citco fund services is to expand its Cork city hedge fund administrative operations, which will create 150 jobs over the next three years. Ely Lilly is to invest up to €400 million in a multi-phase programme to establish a bio-pharmaceutical development and manufacturing facility in Kinsale. This investment will bring up to 200 jobs over the next five years. Genzyme, a leading global biotechnology company, is to invest €130 million at its Irish operations plant in Waterford. This investment will create 170 highly skilled positions and significantly increase the manufacturing capacity of the facility over the next three years. It is important that we outline the success of the IDA in actively encouraging FDI.

When Ministers go abroad, we actively sell Ireland as a place that is open and flexible, with the capacity to receive direct investment.

The Minister of State, Deputy McGuinness, has met representatives of Enterprise Ireland and the county enterprise boards. At present, 56 community enterprise applications are being assessed, which is a substantial number.

How many of them can get money?

I wish to focus on the quarterly national household study to which the Minister of State referred. The study has revealed an increase of 6,900 in employment over the past 12 months. However, if the figures are studied in detail, the number of Irish nationals in employment has dropped by 14,800, while employment of non-Irish nationals has increased by 21,500. Is the Minister aware that, at present, non-nationals are out-competing Irish nationals in the employment sector? In manufacturing, for example, there is a 12.6% differential between Irish and non-Irish employment rates. The figure is 12.4% for the wholesale and retail sector and, amazingly, in the construction sector the differential is 12.8%. Part of this is a result of immigrants improving their language skills and moving up the value chain within employment. That is a positive element in our economy. However, there are underlying concerns that must be addressed.

Does the Government have plans to examine those underlying trends and carry out an investigation into the reason for them? Is it the case, for example, that Irish people are not applying for those jobs or are they not getting the jobs for one reason or other, perhaps because they do not have the appropriate skills? Is it the case that the jobs are being created in parts of the country that do not suit the Irish workforce — the migrant workforce is more flexible in moving around the country — or is it due to the work patterns available? It is critical that this trend is examined. We must ensure that indigenous employees can compete effectively for those jobs. As migrants move up the value chain due to their improving language skills and qualifications, it is important that we ensure Irish workers actively compete for employment.

Some years ago the Government — the Irish people endorsed the decision subsequently in a general election — opened up our labour market. Is the Deputy implying that we should have a green card system for other EU citizens to work here or vice versa?

I am asking a question.

In the event of an Irish person wishing to work in another European country, should there be stipulations and regulations on their access to that labour market?

Is the Minister afraid to answer the question?

This is an integral part of the EU. With regard to immigrants to this country, employers are obliged to comply with employment law. Every employee is entitled to a minimum wage. Where there are employment regulation orders, EROs, or registered employment agreements, REAs, the employer is obliged to pay the rate that is struck and lodged before the Labour Court. If there is exploitation, it is an offence under labour law. We have increased the number of labour inspectors and established the National Employment Rights Authority to ensure that workers, regardless of whether they are Irish or non-nationals, receive the going rates of the labour market as lodged before the Labour Court either in the REAs or EROs. We would be concerned if there was exploitation of any individual.

With regard to students, the Government would obviously be concerned if the primary purpose of students coming to this country was not to learn a language but to work. We are conscious of this issue and examining it very seriously.

Will the Minister carry out an investigation?

An investigation is not needed; what is needed is action, and there will be plenty of that from this side of the House.

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