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Community Employment Schemes

Dáil Éireann Debate, Wednesday - 18 April 2012

Wednesday, 18 April 2012

Questions (668, 669, 670)

Willie O'Dea

Question:

686 Deputy Willie O’Dea asked the Minister for Social Protection if her attention has been drawn to the Labour Court recommendation No. LCR19293 in regard to community employment supervisors; the position regarding payment; and if she will make a statement on the matter. [19457/12]

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Written answers

The Labour Court recommended in July 2008 that an agreed pension scheme should be introduced for community employment (CE) scheme supervisors and assistant supervisors, and that such a scheme should be adequately funded by FÁS. Notwithstanding the positions of the Department in rejecting that liability for these costs falls to be met from public funds, this matter has been the subject of discussions between the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform, my Department, and the unions representing CE supervisors. In the event that funding was required from FÁS, the implementation of the claim is not considered sustainable in light of the current and ongoing fiscal environment and the requirement to contain and reduce public expenditure. The costs of the introduction of any scheme are likely to be of the order of €3m per annum with retrospective costs of the order of at least €30m.

The Deputy should also note that FÁS is not the employer of CE supervisors and such employees are not public servants. Neither was FÁS a party to the Labour Court dispute on this matter. The responsibilities of the sponsoring organisations and the individuals concerned must also be recognised when considering pension provision arrangements.

Billy Timmins

Question:

687 Deputy Billy Timmins asked the Minister for Social Protection if she will re-examine the position regarding a community employment scheme in respect of a person (details supplied) in County Wicklow; and if she will make a statement on the matter. [19466/12]

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Billy Timmins

Question:

688 Deputy Billy Timmins asked the Minister for Social Protection the position regarding a community employment scheme in respect of a person (details supplied) in County Wicklow; and if she will make a statement on the matter. [19476/12]

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I propose to take Questions Nos. 687 and 688 together.

The person concerned was eligible for 3 years (156 weeks) as a CE participant. He commenced on Community Employment with Kiltegan Development Association on 17th March 2008. He completed 156 weeks participation on 11th March 2011. Under the eligibility rules for Community Employment he is not eligible for any further participation on the Community Employment programme.

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