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Pupil-Teacher Ratio

Dáil Éireann Debate, Tuesday - 11 June 2013

Tuesday, 11 June 2013

Questions (230, 262, 287, 289)

Olivia Mitchell

Question:

230. Deputy Olivia Mitchell asked the Minister for Education and Skills in the interest of fairness and to ensure access to the school of choice, if fee paying schools from a minority faith background could be exempt from any further increases in the pupil-teacher ratio; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [27241/13]

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Joe O'Reilly

Question:

262. Deputy Joe O'Reilly asked the Minister for Education and Skills if a school (details supplied) in County Cavan will be excluded from the proposed 23 to 1 pupil-teacher ratio in September 2015 on the grounds that it uniquely has high enrolment from areas of disadvantage in Cavan town which is its immediate hinterland and it is the only second level school with a Protestant ethos in the entire county which boasts a large Protestant population; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [26978/13]

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Eoghan Murphy

Question:

287. Deputy Eoghan Murphy asked the Minister for Education and Skills if he is considering ring-fencing the current teacher pupil ratio of 23:1 for fee paying Protestant schools. [27503/13]

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Eoghan Murphy

Question:

289. Deputy Eoghan Murphy asked the Minister for Education and Skills his committment to equal right of children with respect to education; if he is prepared to keep the teacher-pupil ration at 23:1 and commit not to further cut the funding to fee paying Protestant schools, or if he will proceed with discrimination against pupils of Protestant ethos. [27507/13]

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Written answers

I propose to take Questions Nos. 230, 262, 287 and 289 together.

The Government has protected frontline services in schools to the greatest extent possible in the recent budget and there will no reduction in teacher numbers in primary schools and in free second level schools for the 2013/14 school year as a result of the budget. The DEIS scheme for disadvantaged schools is also fully protected with no overall changes to staffing levels or funding as a result of the budget. At post primary level and in order to promote fairness in funding second level schools, a two-point increase in the pupil teacher ratio in fee-charging second level schools will be introduced in September 2013. There are currently 55 schools out of 723 post-primary schools charging fees ranging from €2,550 to €10,065 for day pupils. At present, the State pays the salaries of one teacher for every 21 pupils in these schools compared with one teacher for every 19 pupils in schools in the free education scheme. A ratio of 18.25 pupils to one teacher, applies in DEIS schools. This will rise to 23:1 in fee-charging schools from September 2013. However, these schools have the resources, through fees charged, to employ teachers privately, an option which is not available to schools in the free education scheme. A report on the analysis of the tuition income of fee-charging schools carried out by the Department was recently published and shows that the schools in question have €81m in discretionary income that schools in the free scheme do not have. It is important to note that the report does not contain any policy proposals at this stage. However, even after the Budget changes are implemented, the discretionary income available to these schools will still be quite considerable. There are some concerns within the Church of Ireland community on the recent budget measure affecting fee-charging schools. This Government recognises the importance of ensuring that students from a Protestant or Reformed church background can attend a school that reflects their denominational ethos while at the same time ensuring that funding arrangements are in accordance with the provisions of the Constitution. How best to sustain education provision for widely dispersed and small local communities does present as a particular challenge, especially in any locality where enrolment is declining to single figures. The Government is intent in fostering pluralism in school provision. Supporting small communities including minorities in maintaining their schools is part of that policy. With regard to the fee-charging Protestant schools, an arrangement exists whereby funding is provided by my Department to the Secondary Education Committee (SEC), an organisation run by the churches involved in managing the Protestant secondary schools. The SEC then disburses funds to the Protestant fee-charging schools on behalf of pupils who would otherwise have difficulty with the cost of fees and who, in the absence of such financial support, would be unable to attend a second level school of a reformed church or Protestant ethos. Funding amounts to €6.5 million annually. This fund ensures that necessitous Protestant children can attend a school of their choice.

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