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Public Sector Pensions Issues

Dáil Éireann Debate, Thursday - 18 July 2013

Thursday, 18 July 2013

Questions (269, 270, 271, 272)

Mary Lou McDonald

Question:

269. Deputy Mary Lou McDonald asked the Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform if he will provide the saving to the Exchequer if the following revised Public Service Pension Reduction rates (details supplied) were applied to pensions awarded up to the end of February 2012 above €32,500, noting the €32,500 threshold for exposure to these revised rates is based on the pension after application of PSPR as it applied just prior to the selective 2013 increase in PSPR rates which equates to an effective threshold of €34,132 in terms of pre-PSPR pension. [36459/13]

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Mary Lou McDonald

Question:

270. Deputy Mary Lou McDonald asked the Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform the saving to the Exchequer if the following revised Public Service Pension Reduction rates (details supplied) were applied to a pension awarded between 1 March 2012 and the end of August 2014 above €32,500. [36460/13]

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Mary Lou McDonald

Question:

271. Deputy Mary Lou McDonald asked the Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform the saving to the Exchequer if the following revised Public Service Pension Reduction rates (details supplied) were applied to a pension awarded between 1 March 2012 and to the end of August 2014 above €32,500. [36461/13]

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Mary Lou McDonald

Question:

272. Deputy Mary Lou McDonald asked the Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform the saving to the Exchequer if the following revised Pension Related Deduction rates (details supplied) were applied. [36462/13]

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Written answers

I propose to answer Questions Nos. 269 to 272, inclusive, together.

At this juncture in the annual Budget cycle, my Department is not in a position to produce detailed costings of scenario-based proposals for adjustments to existing impositions on public service salaries and pensions, such as the Pension Related Deduction (PRD) and the Public Service Pension Reduction (PSPR). The Deputy's scenario in respect of the PRD would be particularly challenging in terms of costing on account of its complexity. This complexity arises from recourse to an eight-band tiered deduction structure instead of the current four-band structure, significant departures from existing band boundaries, and both increases and decreases in the percentage rates. Furthermore, it is possible that the Exchequer would experience net losses, not net savings, under the proposal, given that substantial rate reductions are proposed on the first €60,000 of salary.

As already indicated, my Department is not in a position to supply a detailed costing in relation to the PSPR adjustments which the Deputy has proposed. However, by drawing on previously undertaken costings work, it is possible to ascribe an approximate order-of-magnitude savings figure of a further €5 million to the PSPR proposals made by the Deputy. This approximate and tentative €5 million PSPR savings estimate arises very substantially from the Deputy's proposal in Question No. 269 in respect of pensions awarded up to the end of February 2012. The estimate is not subject to significant variation in respect of the separate PSPR scenarios advanced in the Deputy’s Questions No. 270 and 271 in respect of pensions awarded between 1 March 2012 and the end of August 2014.

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