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Defence Forces Retirement Scheme

Dáil Éireann Debate, Tuesday - 25 March 2014

Tuesday, 25 March 2014

Questions (833)

Luke 'Ming' Flanagan

Question:

833. Deputy Luke 'Ming' Flanagan asked the Minister for Defence when he will reply to the claim submitted by PDFORRA to his Department regarding the issue of extending privates and corporals beyond 21 years service in the Defence Forces; if his attention has been drawn to the fact that the cost to the Exchequer will be greater than if these men and women were to remain within the Defence Forces; if he considers it to be more beneficial to the capacity of the Defence Forces if these personnel were retained within the forces, as their talents and experience will be lost if they are forced out of the forces due to the requirement of promotion to the rank of sergeant; if his attention has been drawn to the fact that this claim has been with his Department for over one and a half years now and that it will start to impact in 2015; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [13613/14]

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The unsatisfactory age and fitness profile of the Permanent Defence Force was an issue of serious concern during the 1990s and was the subject of severe criticism by a series of external reports, mainly Price Waterhouse Consultants and the Efficiency Audit Group (EAG). One of the key areas identified for urgent action by the EAG was the development of a manpower policy with an emphasis on lowering the age profile of Permanent Defence Force personnel. The EAG’s report was accepted by Government in 1995.

In an effort to alleviate the situation, the Government had already decided in 1993 to enlist personnel on a five year contract basis, following consultation with Permanent Defence Force Other Ranks Representative Association (PDFORRA). In 1997 agreement was reached with PDFORRA on a new manpower policy for the Defence Forces. This policy, applying to personnel enlisted after 1 January 1994, provided that service for Private Soldiers would initially be for five years with the option to be extended to a maximum of twelve years, subject to meeting standards of medical and physical fitness and conduct. Longer periods of service were envisaged for Non Commissioned Officers.

In 2004 PDFORRA submitted a claim under the Conciliation and Arbitration Scheme for a further review of the terms of service applying to personnel enlisting in the Permanent Defence Force after 1 January, 1994. A set of criteria was agreed with PDFORRA to provide longer careers for those who enlisted post 1 January 1994 while continuing to address the Government’s objective of having an appropriate age profile to meet the challenges of a modern Defence Forces.

The criteria require that any person re-engaging after 12 years service must be able to continue to operate at their current level both at home and overseas on an ongoing basis. Re-engagement is subject to the individual soldier meeting specified criteria in regard to physical fitness, medical category, successful completion of military courses of instruction, service overseas and conduct ratings. The maximum service period for these personnel is as follows:-

- Enlisted Personnel, up to and including the rank of Corporal (and equivalent Naval Service rank), may not serve beyond 21 years service.

- Enlisted Personnel, in the rank of Sergeant (and equivalent Naval Service rank), may be permitted to continue in service up to the age of fifty years.

- Enlisted Personnel in all higher ranks may serve to the age of fifty-six.

With the approach of 2015 the first effects of the agreement, whereby Privates and Corporals may not serve beyond 21 years, will be felt by Permanent Defence Force members in those ranks. I am aware that a claim has been received from PDFORRA for a further review in relation to this matter and has been the subject of intense discussions and negotiations under the Conciliation and Arbitration Scheme for members of the Permanent Defence Force. As discussions under the Scheme are confidential to the parties involved it would not be appropriate for me to comment further on the matter at this time, other than to emphasise that in dealing with this issue the manpower and operational needs of the Defence Forces must be the primary consideration.

However, I am confident that in examining this claim from PDFORRA, all pertinent facts, including cost to the Exchequer and benefit to the Defence Forces are being considered. It is intended to finalise negotiations with the Representative Association within the next few weeks.

Question No. 834 answered with Question No. 817.
Question No. 835 answered with Question No. 832.
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