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Dáil Éireann Debate, Tuesday - 10 July 2018

Tuesday, 10 July 2018

Questions (70)

Jan O'Sullivan

Question:

70. Deputy Jan O'Sullivan asked the Minister for Business, Enterprise and Innovation the efforts being made to encourage benefits to accrue to other cities, including opportunities for information technology and other technical supports, software development and accounting services, particularly stressing the lower cost of accommodation in cities other than the capital, in the context of indications that Dublin will benefit from Brexit by way of financial services and other service sector employment; and if she will make a statement on the matter. [30936/18]

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Oral answers (6 contributions)

We have heard much about the fears and threats of Brexit. My question relates to getting some of the benefits of Brexit to cities outside Dublin. The evidence seems to be that, particularly in the financial service area but in other service areas as well, Dublin has already got companies that are relocating and that there will be others. I encourage the Government to ensure some of that benefit goes to cities outside Dublin. The housing issue that was just discussed is part of that because accommodation is cheaper in the other cities.

I thank the Deputy for raising the issue. All three Ministers in the Department of Business, Enterprise and Innovation are from the regions. I assure the Deputy that the Department is very focused on spreading investment across the country. This includes jobs and investment that could potentially arise as a result of Brexit.

Creating more jobs in the regions is a particular priority for IDA Ireland and my Department. That is why additional financial resources have been secured to support the strategic response to Brexit by our enterprise agencies, including IDA Ireland. This is aimed at both capitalising on the opportunities and addressing the challenges associated with the UK's withdrawal from the European Union. These resources have already allowed for new posts to be created and for an increase in marketing and communication activities.

While, as the Deputy has pointed out, lower accommodation costs are a selling point for cities outside the capital, attracting foreign direct investment to regional areas is not without its challenges. This is largely because there is a global trend to base foreign direct investment in large urban areas. For example, they want to be near transport hubs or in close proximity to third level institutions. Companies also often want to be located near competitors or clusters of other similar enterprises, which means they are more likely to decide to on an urban area. If they are near others in their sector they can get more workers for their companies. This can make securing investment a little bit more difficult. At the same time quality of life is also important.

Despite all that, real progress has been made in the level of foreign direct investment outside the main urban areas. In 2017 alone 70% of all jobs created were outside the Dublin region, including 45% of all jobs created by IDA Ireland. Similarly, 65% of all Enterprise Ireland client employment is outside Dublin. In recent times, there has been a great deal of investment in the regions - for example, in Longford, Sligo and Dundalk. We are working hard, across Government, to ensure further projects are secured in regional areas throughout the remainder of 2018 and beyond.

Yesterday the Minister, Deputy Humphreys, visited Athlone.

I stress that the IDA does its utmost to encourage clients to locate in areas that are most in need of investment and highlights the benefits of expanding or locating in all counties to its client base. It is encouraging that in the first quarter of 2018 there were 135 site visits and about half of those were outside the greater Dublin area.

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The IDA will continue to showcase regional areas to potential investors and we are determined that the benefits of FDI will be felt, as best as possible, all across the country. We have to remember, however, that the ultimate decision as to where to invest is always taken by overseas firms themselves.

The Minister of State, Deputy Breen, will be aware of a report published last week. It was an economic advisory report carried out by EY-DKM for Limerick City and County Council. The report specifically said Limerick was an attractive destination for FDI in light of Brexit. It went on to suggest potential activities, including accounting, business support services, payroll, HR, technical support desks, including IT technical support, software development and other research and development innovation. It talks about back-office support and so on.

I am making a case for Limerick. I know it best. There are two Members present who might make a case for Waterford or Cork. I ask the Minister and the Ministers of State if they will ensure the IDA is aware of this report when it is encouraging people to come to Ireland and that it does not put all the eggs into the Dublin basket.

We debated the national planning framework in the House last Friday. It proposes a 50% growth of the cities outside of Dublin. That will only happen if these kinds of proactive measures are taken to ensure this kind of work goes to other cities besides Dublin.

The mid-west is one of the fastest growing regions in the country. Limerick has attracted a lot of FDI in recent times. More investment there is imminent. The Deputy has talked about the IDA. The IDA is well aware of the document the Deputy mentioned. I refer to the Patrick Street development proposed for Limerick city centre. It is a fantastic initiative funded by the European Investment Bank and the local authorities. It is a great area to develop further investment in the region particularly in the tech sector. Much of the recent investment in Limerick has been in city centre locations but there is also Raheen Business Park and there will be more development there. There is a lot happening out there. The Deputy should be aware that FDI only forms one part of the investment in regional locations. Indigenous enterprise is also important and is responsible for most of the employment growth in the country outside of Dublin; 98% of enterprises are SMEs and comprise approximately 70% of the workforce. The LEOs are playing an important role. It is a combination of factors. I understand why the Deputy has raised the issue. Limerick is a beautiful city. It is a great city and a great place to invest. There is a university there and also LIT and Mary Immaculate College while Shannon Airport is nearby. There are also all of the tourist attractions. All of those factors make it an attractive place for its quality of life and for people to invest in.

I recognise the importance of indigenous industry but my question is specifically on benefitting from Brexit which means we are primarily talking about FDI. I want to ensure the Government proactively pushes cities other than Dublin. I have nothing against Dublin but if we are going to achieve the kinds of numbers in the national planning framework up to 2040, we have to see that kind of investment in the other cities. I urge that it be a priority for Government.

The Deputy is correct. There is an old saying, "You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink". That is part of the problem we have. The IDA has put all the incentives it has at the disposal of companies that want to invest in the regions but at the end of the day it is the property people of these companies that might invest in Ireland who decide where their company should be. I listed the factors that contribute to such a decision at the beginning of my reply. As a result of the Brexit scenario, 40 companies across the various sectors the Deputy spoke about - the financial, life sciences, technology and engineering sectors - have all chosen Ireland. I expect more of these companies to come to Ireland because we are English-speaking and we have the fastest growing economy in Europe. We also have a reputation for having a good, young, educated workforce. I expect to see more of that because of the rollercoaster effect. The IDA is targeting that. We certainly will convey the Deputy's concerns about it to the IDA. I see more investment coming into the regions because of the quality of life they offer, the talent in them, the universities, other third level institutions and the various infrastructure such as transport hubs. All of these are important, as Ireland's road network reduces the time it takes to get to Dublin. It only takes two to two and a half hours to get to Dublin from the mid-west. That is considered quite close for most companies that want to invest in a region.

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