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Community Employment Schemes

Dáil Éireann Debate, Tuesday - 28 July 2020

Tuesday, 28 July 2020

Questions (564, 588)

Carol Nolan

Question:

564. Deputy Carol Nolan asked the Minister for Employment Affairs and Social Protection the status of the pension dispute by community employment scheme supervisors; and if she will make a statement on the matter. [18261/20]

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Carol Nolan

Question:

588. Deputy Carol Nolan asked the Minister for Employment Affairs and Social Protection when the report on the pension dispute by community employment scheme supervisors will be published; and if she will make a statement on the matter. [18260/20]

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Written answers

I propose to take Questions Nos. 564 and 588 together.

As the Deputy will be aware, Community Employment (CE) supervisors and assistant supervisors have been seeking for several years, through their union representatives, the allocation of Exchequer funding to implement a 2008 Labour Court recommendation relating to the provision of a pension scheme.

CE sponsoring authorities are the legal employers of their CE supervisors, CE assistant supervisors and CE participants; the Department’s role continues to be that of CE funder. The issue was examined by a Community Sector High Level Forum, chaired by the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform. A number of Departments including my own Department were represented on this group, as were the unions and Pobal.

A detailed scoping exercise was carried out with input from the Irish Government Economic and Evaluation Service (IGEES) on the potential costs of providing Exchequer support for the establishment of such a pension scheme for employees across the Community and Voluntary sector in Ireland. This exercise estimated a potential cost to the State of between €188 million and €347 million per annum depending on the numbers involved. This excluded any provision for an immediate ex-gratia lump sum payment of pension as sought, which could entail a further Exchequer cost of up to €318 million.

Officials from my Department held a series of meetings with CE supervisor representatives to consider a number of proposals, mindful of the operating environment in which any potential solution will need to exist. Related discussions were also undertaken between Department officials and their counterparts in the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform (DPER).

Just to clarify for the Deputy, there is no report due to be published by my Department in respect of the CE supervisor pension dispute. My Department will however continue to engage with all parties to the discussions with a view to establishing a viable solution to this issue.

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