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Debate: Seanad Éireann
https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/debate/seanad/1925-04-30/10/
30 Apr 1925 -
ESMONDE That of divorce.
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Debate: Seanad Éireann
https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/debate/seanad/1925-02-18/3/
18 Feb 1925 -
STANDING ORDERS FOR DIVORCE BILLS.
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Debate: Seanad Éireann
https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/debate/seanad/1925-06-11/12/
11 Jun 1925 -
. - DEBATE ON DIVORCE LEGISLATION RESUMED.
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Debate: Seanad Éireann
https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/debate/seanad/1925-06-11/12/
11 Jun 1925 -
deals with the general question and previous speakers have dealt with the advisability or otherwise of divorce...On this question of divorce, however, their views are opposed....There have been facilities for divorce and they have existed in this country in a very limited form,...Those who disapprove of divorce should abstain from divorce, but I do not think that they ought to try...Protestants whose circumstances drive them to seek divorce?
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Debate: Seanad Éireann
https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/debate/seanad/1925-06-10/10/
10 Jun 1925 -
AN CATHAOIRLEACH The report of the Committee has nothing whatever to do with the divorce question....Senator Bennett who was on that Committee made that clear, that the question of divorce had nothing whatever
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Debate: Seanad Éireann
https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/debate/seanad/1925-06-11/12/
11 Jun 1925 -
I believe I speak for many other people—we do not believe that it is good for the State to bring in divorce...I can quite understand 70 or 80 years ago the English Parliament setting up a Court for Divorce....You must either have no divorce or take up the position of the American judge....The English Parliament set up divorce courts as a sort of experiment....It has resulted in an enormous flood of divorces.
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Debate: Seanad Éireann
https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/debate/seanad/1925-06-11/12/
11 Jun 1925 -
Colonel MOORE Anyway, the poet did not divorce his wife. His wife died.
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Debate: Seanad Éireann
https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/debate/seanad/1925-06-11/12/
11 Jun 1925 -
the other, and that the Oireachtas ought to decide whether or not facilities ought to be granted for divorce...to the motion now before the House, because if this motion is carried it will leave facilities for divorce...were given under the British Constitution, because in the British Constitution a person who wanted divorce
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Debate: Seanad Éireann
https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/debate/seanad/1925-06-11/12/
11 Jun 1925 -
In the next one hundred years, from 1600 to 1700, there were only five cases of divorce, and those under...I do not know whether the poet Milton ever wrote on divorce.
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Debate: Seanad Éireann
https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/debate/seanad/1925-06-11/12/
11 Jun 1925 -
and, having reached there, any member of the Seanad or Dáil can bring before either House a Bill for divorce...great heart of the people through all the ages and up to the present is absolutely and totally against divorce...the great mind and heart of the people are correctly defined they will be found absolutely against divorce
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Debate: Seanad Éireann
https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/debate/seanad/1925-03-05/5/
5 Mar 1925 -
The Government can bring in a Bill to-morrow to prohibit divorce a vinculo.
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Debate: Seanad Éireann
https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/debate/seanad/1925-06-11/12/
11 Jun 1925 -
YEATS One of the most famous of all the prose works of Milton is on divorce, which the Senator should
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Debate: Seanad Éireann
https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/debate/seanad/1925-06-11/7/
11 Jun 1925 -
motion under discussion is a motion moved by Senator Bennett, proposing that the consideration of this divorce
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Debate: Seanad Éireann
https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/debate/seanad/1925-06-11/12/
11 Jun 1925 -
AN CATHAOIRLEACH The House might like to spend the rest of the day over this divorce business and if
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Debate: Seanad Éireann
https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/debate/seanad/1925-06-11/12/
11 Jun 1925 -
As to the Private Bill legislation urged by Senator Douglas, I think this question of divorce is not...a question for Private Bill legislation, and if there is to be divorce of any kind it is not by Private...A woman cannot get a divorce in the same way as a man....I understand that a woman wanting a divorce will have to leave this country and take up residence abroad
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Debate: Seanad Éireann
https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/debate/seanad/1925-06-11/12/
11 Jun 1925 -
We know the extension of divorce in Great Britain has caused divorce to increase to an alarming extent...He omitted to refer to Denmark, where there are greater divorce facilities than in any other country....There, two people have only to say so if they desire to get a divorce, and divorce is granted....If, as a result of not facilitating divorce you are inflicting hardship, it must be on an exceedingly...I do so because I am opposed to divorce on purely social grounds.
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Debate: Seanad Éireann
https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/debate/seanad/1925-06-11/7/
11 Jun 1925 -
AN CATHAOIRLEACH The divorce motion stands adjourned until this day week.
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Debate: Seanad Éireann
https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/debate/seanad/1925-06-11/7/
11 Jun 1925 -
air, because it shows plainly that the object behind it is to try and get behind my ruling on this divorce
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Debate: Seanad Éireann
https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/debate/seanad/1925-02-13/2/
13 Feb 1925 -
to be adopted in connection with Private Bills relating to Matrimonial Matters other than Bills of Divorce...to propose such alterations in the Standing Orders as will prevent the introduction of such Bills of Divorce
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Debate: Seanad Éireann
https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/debate/seanad/1925-06-10/10/
10 Jun 1925 -
They do not think it is possible to discuss the divorce question until they have heard the report of
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Debate: Seanad Éireann
https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/debate/seanad/1925-06-11/12/
11 Jun 1925 -
I do not intend to say anything at all on the question whether divorce a vinculo should be obtainable...Beyond all doubt, however little some members of the Seanad may like it, a Divorce Bill is a Private...It merely means that a Private Bill for Divorce lodged with the examiner will no longer be subject to...By adopting this course you are not in any way recognising divorce....You are not accepting any responsibility for divorce.
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Debate: Seanad Éireann
https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/debate/seanad/1925-06-11/7/
11 Jun 1925 -
get an opinion from me on is whether you can discuss the main question as to whether there should be divorce
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Debate: Seanad Éireann
https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/debate/seanad/1925-06-11/12/
11 Jun 1925 -
should not misunderstand what I have said over and over again, that I do not care one fig about this divorce...But I am not shutting out the Seanad from discussing the question of divorce, for this obvious reason...: any Senator could bring in a Bill to-morrow to abolish the right of Private Bill divorce a vinculo
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Debate: Seanad Éireann
https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/debate/seanad/1925-06-11/12/
11 Jun 1925 -
and that the legislation of those countries provided for divorce....He overlooked, I think, one State, a Protestant State of the Union, which has no divorce....Further than that, he says that the way of divorce leads the North to the South....There were divorces hitherto, we have been told. Divorces for whom?...Senator Yeats said: "Give us divorce." Divorce for whom?
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Debate: Seanad Éireann
https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/debate/seanad/1925-06-11/12/
11 Jun 1925 -
If two people want a divorce, what do they do? The husband goes away and lives in apartments....The wife writes to him, being herself most anxious for the divorce; she writes a pretended letter asking...come back, and the wife, knowing beforehand that he would write that letter, proceeds to ask for a divorce...Why not adopt the American method and say: "I will give a divorce to any two people who come before me...Let anybody who wants divorce have it." There is no real medium in these things.
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Debate: Seanad Éireann
https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/debate/seanad/1925-06-11/12/
11 Jun 1925 -
recommending the Government to introduce legislation depriving people of the right to bring in a Bill for divorce
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Debate: Seanad Éireann
https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/debate/seanad/1925-06-11/12/
11 Jun 1925 -
FARREN As I understand the motion it is that those who wish for divorce will have to come before both...Even then you are conferring far greater facilities for divorce than under the British Constitution....With regard to the general question, I must say that I am opposed to granting facilities for divorce...argument he used was that we will never get unity between the North and the South if we do not agree to divorce
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Debate: Seanad Éireann
https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/debate/seanad/1925-06-11/12/
11 Jun 1925 -
Countess of DESART In the name of woman I protest against the idea that it is divorce that destroys...The Mosaic law, as can be read in the Bible, not only permitted divorce but enjoined it....Senator Moore stated that there were only five applications for divorce in 100 years, and that shows
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Debate: Seanad Éireann
https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/debate/seanad/1925-06-11/12/
11 Jun 1925 -
I have no doubt whatever that there will be no divorce in this country for some time.
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Debate: Seanad Éireann
https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/debate/seanad/1925-06-11/12/
11 Jun 1925 -
feeling in the minds of some of the Senators that I am doing this in the interests of those who want divorce...by introducing to-morrow a Bill of two or four lines saying that from this day on there is to be no divorce
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Debate: Seanad Éireann
https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/debate/seanad/1925-06-11/12/
11 Jun 1925 -
majority of my fellow-countrymen is not that for my own part I do not share their views with regard to divorce...Those powers include the powers, if we see fit, to make provision for divorce in this country, whether...I should like to point out in the first place that this committee was not set up to deal with divorce...As it stands at the moment, you include a divorce bill under the resolution which you have before you...I propose that while retaining a divorce bill as a private bill, it shall be dealt with differently to
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Debate: Seanad Éireann
https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/debate/seanad/1925-06-11/12/
11 Jun 1925 -
; I am merely disproving the statement he made—I will not say for liberty, but for this question of divorce...Before the Reformation there was no such thing as divorce....whom were Protestants, much more sincere Protestants than people are nowadays, absolutely prohibiting divorce
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Debate: Seanad Éireann
https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/debate/seanad/1925-06-11/12/
11 Jun 1925 -
I shall vote against anything on the subject of divorce until this question is settled.
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Debate: Seanad Éireann
https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/debate/seanad/1925-06-10/10/
10 Jun 1925 -
I should not like this second matter which I consider a most important question, the question of divorce
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Debate: Seanad Éireann
https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/debate/seanad/1925-06-11/12/
11 Jun 1925 -
here, and that is, to do for each section of the community what we think is best, and in preventing divorce
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Debate: Seanad Éireann
https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/debate/seanad/1925-03-05/5/
5 Mar 1925 -
the existing Standing Orders dealing with Private Bills, a Private Bill for the purpose of obtaining divorce
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Debate: Seanad Éireann
https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/debate/seanad/1925-06-11/7/
11 Jun 1925 -
of the House, and to give full time and a full opportunity for a full and frank discussion of this divorce
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Debate: Seanad Éireann
https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/debate/seanad/1925-02-18/3/
18 Feb 1925 -
Dáil giving the terms of a Resolution passed by the Dáil in reference to Standing Orders dealing with Divorce
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Debate: Seanad Éireann
https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/debate/seanad/1925-06-11/12/
11 Jun 1925 -
itself—inasmuch as this report, as I say, contains no definite recommendation whatsoever on the subject of divorce
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Debate: Seanad Éireann
https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/debate/seanad/1925-06-11/12/
11 Jun 1925 -
Order for the purpose of preventing the introduction and making it impossible that Private Bills for Divorce
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Debate: Seanad Éireann
https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/debate/seanad/1925-06-11/12/
11 Jun 1925 -
Senator Yeats himself, I am sure, would say that he would not be prepared to sit here constantly hearing divorce...I think that everybody will admit that ought not be so, and if there is to be divorce at all it should
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Debate: Seanad Éireann
https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/debate/seanad/1925-03-05/5/
5 Mar 1925 -
postpones consideration of this question for another twelve months that will not prevent people introducing divorce
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Debate: Seanad Éireann
https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/debate/seanad/1923-03-21/2/
21 Mar 1923 -
There is sentiment in everything, and we are a body divorced from sentiment if we do not allow the penny
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Debate: Seanad Éireann
https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/debate/seanad/1925-07-07/18/
7 Jul 1925 -
it alone, in which case I think we all agree it would have died a natural death long before now and Divorce...afraid that the effort is still being kept up of trying to make out that I want to block doing away with divorce
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Debate: Seanad Éireann
https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/debate/seanad/1924-07-02/6/
2 Jul 1924 -
Now, you cannot divorce the practical side of this question from the principle.
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Debate: Seanad Éireann
https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/debate/seanad/1925-04-30/10/
30 Apr 1925 -
misunderstanding has got abroad that this is a sort of battle between those who were in favour of giving divorce...hope everybody both inside and outside this House will get it out of their heads that the principle of divorce...While I had my own opinion with regard to divorce facilities, I did, and do, object to the method of
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Debate: Seanad Éireann
https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/debate/seanad/1925-04-30/10/
30 Apr 1925 -
I do not want to go into this controversy about divorce, because it is a side issue....You only drag a herring across the trail if you want to get this discussion to hang round divorce....Divorce is only an illustration of the principle....I do not care a fig about this divorce resolution. I do care for the honour of the Seanad....What would it have done if it had passed that divorce resolution?
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Debate: Seanad Éireann
https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/debate/seanad/1925-06-11/12/
11 Jun 1925 -
It is just as much adultery according to that view as the remarriage of divorced persons is....to say of the following extract from an article by Father Peter Finlay:— "The refusal to legalise divorce...In a previous part of the essay he compares divorce with polygamy, robbery and murder....The rights of divorce, and many other rights, were won by the Protestant communities in the teeth of...There are no reports in the newspapers of divorce proceedings.
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Debate: Seanad Éireann
https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/debate/seanad/1925-03-05/5/
5 Mar 1925 -
to be adopted in connection with Private Bills relating to matrimonial matters other than Bills of Divorce...and to propose such alterations in the Standing Orders as will prevent the introducion of Bills of Divorce...It may be right or it may be wrong for the State to interfere in this particular matter of divorce a...The Divorce Bill stood on no higher or lower grade than that....It may be, and I think it is, desirable, that we should not make divorce easy or this complete divorce
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Debate: Seanad Éireann
https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/debate/seanad/1925-07-07/18/
7 Jul 1925 -
it is recognised by practically everybody in this House that there is not going to be passing of any divorce
