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Debate: Seanad Éireann
https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/debate/seanad/1934-09-05/3/
5 Sep 1934 - Mr. Dillon The question of calling on the unpaid capital of co-operative societies has been... raised in a very serious way by Senator Jameson. I am interested in a co-operative society, not a dairy... society, which has about 10/- per share of unpaid capital—in the case of some shareholders it would..., for one at all events, could not agree that we should give power to the Credit Corporation to call on the unpaid capital of societies.
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Debate: Dáil Éireann
https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/debate/dail/1934-07-19/24/
19 Jul 1934 - . As Mr. Hogan suggested, they got actually the co-operative societies to whom advances were made to alter... by the Department of Agriculture and Technical Instruction for Ireland to the Society and any... Mr. Aiken Deputy McMenamin said, anyway, that the Bill was all hog-wash. That was one of his... legalise the position. The Agricultural Credit Corporation took every precaution to see that, when... this Bill would become law, they would have a complete legal right to recover the advances they made
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Debate: Seanad Éireann
https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/debate/seanad/1934-08-22/11/
22 Aug 1934 - Mr. Jameson Can the Minister say why the right to issue debentures is being taken away from the societies?
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Debate: Seanad Éireann
https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/debate/seanad/1934-08-29/4/
29 Aug 1934 - that confirmed by a Bill. Since then the Agricultural Credit Corporation were waiting until some Bill... was introduced amending the Agricultural Credit Corporation Act or some such Bill..., no other society except those particular societies that owe money to the Agricultural Credit.... Legally, however, the Agricultural Credit Corporation could not take such a charge until this Bill... Dr. Ryan No. The pledge which he gave to the other societies or to the Dairy Disposals Board
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Debate: Dáil Éireann
https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/debate/dail/1934-08-01/16/
1 Aug 1934 - the Industrial and Provident Societies Act, 1893, to issue debentures, and to borrow money on the security... of moneys provided by the Oireachtas of any expenses incurred by the Minister for Agriculture in carrying... into effect any Act of the present session to empower certain societies registered under
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Debate: Seanad Éireann
https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/debate/seanad/1934-08-29/4/
29 Aug 1934 - in putting the society into liquidation, while on the other hand if the debenture issue was arranged... place for the issuing of debentures. His position is that he does not wish the shareholders... of a society to be consulted on that matter until all the negotiations in connection with the issue have been... that a society should then meet and have the power to veto any arrangements which had been made by its... to have a general meeting of a society at the beginning of negotiations because of the fact
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Debate: Dáil Éireann
https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/debate/dail/1934-08-07/3/
7 Aug 1934 - — Agricultural Co-operative Societies (Debentures) Bill; 10— Creamery Amendment Bill; 14— Tobacco Bill... in the following order:— 7 — Motion for Seanad Election; 8 — Military Service Pensions Bill; 11 — Agricultural... Produce (Cereals) Bill; 12 — Slaughter of Cattle and Sheep Bill; 13 — Industrial Alcohol Bill; 9
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Debate: Dáil Éireann
https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/debate/dail/1934-07-19/24/
19 Jul 1934 - Mr. Aiken The Deputy ought to know then that the usual way for co-operative societies to raise... to give a guarantee. I think myself that from the point of view of co-operation it would be much
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Debate: Dáil Éireann
https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/debate/dail/1934-08-01/21/
1 Aug 1934 - Mr. Belton Will the co-operative societies come into competition in the matter of rehandling.
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Debate: Dáil Éireann
https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/debate/dail/1934-07-19/24/
19 Jul 1934 - Mr. Dillon The Minister in speaking said that one purpose suitable for the issue of debentures... was to pay off old debts. Does the Minister think that would be a suitable occasion to issue debentures and make a charge on uncalled share capital?
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Debate: Dáil Éireann
https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/debate/dail/1979-02-13/47/
13 Feb 1979 - requirements for societies, including agricultural co-operatives, to coincide with basic company... of agricultural co-operatives. This exercise will, however, involve a review of a substantial body... on the Second Reading of the Industrial and Provident Societies (Amendment) Bill, 1978, in which I..., a complete and full overhaul of the industrial and provident societies code which governs the operations
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Debate: Seanad Éireann
https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/debate/seanad/1934-08-22/11/
22 Aug 1934 - to give a licence to him to do so. We told him he must get rid of it either to the co-operative society... to sanction an individual getting debentures we would be, as it were, giving our blessing to that movement... or to some other society. We have always refused to give a licence to any proprietor to run any
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Debate: Dáil Éireann
https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/debate/dail/1934-07-19/24/
19 Jul 1934 - to the Debentures Bill. He rose to speak on the Second Reading. He said: "We are not going to oppose... the Bill. We merely offer criticism founded on suspicion." Both he and Deputy McMenamin, as well... as Deputy Dillon, went on to offer criticism of the Bill founded on suspicion. If their suspicions
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Debate: Dáil Éireann
https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/debate/dail/1934-08-01/21/
1 Aug 1934 - by the growers themselves through the co-operative societies. But I think we have not got sufficient capacity... in the rehandling stations which are run by co-operative societies at the moment. It would, therefore... in this country, to hand the business over to co-operative societies. It would be very much like... some proprietors in order to help out the co-operative rehandling stations for a year or two, say..., until one more additional co-operative rehandling station would get into the business. I would like
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Debate: Seanad Éireann
https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/debate/seanad/1934-08-29/4/
29 Aug 1934 - to the Agricultural Credit Corporation. On the Report Stage of the Bill in the Dáil the Minister moved..., by the then Minister for Agriculture, that if they lent the money he would take care that a Bill would... has a right to say to such a society: "You lend the money and I will bring in a Bill which will take... 12 to insert the words "one of the societies named in the Schedule to this Act, being... that the legal adviser to the Agricultural Credit Corporation considered that if these words were allowed
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Debate: Dáil Éireann
https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/debate/dail/1934-09-12/4/
12 Sep 1934 - Mr. Cosgrave If the Minister were a member of a co-operative society be might not think so.
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Debate: Dáil Éireann
https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/debate/dail/1934-08-01/21/
1 Aug 1934 - they are also shareholders. If they rehandled for 2d. per lb. the other 3d. would go back to the tobacco. The co-operative societies have no profits. ... Mr. Corry Yes. The position is that while co-operatives are allowed 3d. per lb. for rehandling
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Debate: Dáil Éireann
https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/debate/dail/1934-08-01/21/
1 Aug 1934 - Mr. Belton Can the Minister tell us at what price the co-operative societies are rehandling it?
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Debate: Dáil Éireann
https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/debate/dail/1934-08-01/21/
1 Aug 1934 - Mr. Cosgrave Deputy Belton wants to know how much it costs the co-operative societies to rehandle.
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Debate: Dáil Éireann
https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/debate/dail/1934-08-01/17/
1 Aug 1934 - not provided for the co-operative societies. In other words, to go on the principle of raising... Mr. Cosgrave I understood, when the Bill was being introduced, that it was an empowering Bill... rather than a retrospective Bill. Unless I am mistaken, this particular clause as drafted is one... that seeks to give to the Agricultural Credit Corporation certain powers in excess of anything they have... at the moment. I had no objection to this Bill as an empowering Bill, but to copper-fasten
