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Debate: Dáil Éireann
https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/debate/dail/1934-08-01/21/
1 Aug 1934 -
The position is that while co-operatives are allowed 3d. per lb. for rehandling they are also shareholders...The co-operative societies have no profits.
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Debate: Dáil Éireann
https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/debate/dail/1934-08-01/21/
1 Aug 1934 -
Belton Can the Minister tell us at what price the co-operative societies are rehandling it?
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Debate: Seanad Éireann
https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/debate/seanad/1934-09-05/3/
5 Sep 1934 -
We were pressing, in Committee, that, in every case where debentures were issued, a meeting of the shareholders...The argument was that the creation of debentures in the new form raised a totally new issue, and that
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Debate: Dáil Éireann
https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/debate/dail/1934-08-01/21/
1 Aug 1934 -
Cosgrave Deputy Belton wants to know how much it costs the co-operative societies to rehandle.
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Debate: Dáil Éireann
https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/debate/dail/1934-07-19/25/
19 Jul 1934 -
The only thing I should like to be assured of is, as I said before, that only co-operative societies...I believe that the sale of seed should be altogether in the hands of co-operative societies....It could be tested within the co-operative societies....In the Meath Co-operative Society we have our own plants and are in a position to produce our native...I think it would be much better if the Minister in the Bill compelled co-operative growers to send their
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Debate: Seanad Éireann
https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/debate/seanad/1934-09-05/3/
5 Sep 1934 -
If they are legal agreements which can be acted upon, what is the need for this Bill at all?...I know that, in the case of the bank with which I am associated, we have, in some cases, got debentures...in the case of loans made to these societies....We have legally got debentures issued....The justification is an agreement between the late Minister for Agriculture and the lending Corporation—that
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Debate: Seanad Éireann
https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/debate/seanad/1934-08-29/4/
29 Aug 1934 -
Sir John Keane I very much hope the House will insist upon limiting the Bill to those societies already...I gather from the Minister that these societies cover the ground....I am puzzled in regard to some of the proposals in the Bill and that is the reason why I suggested that...I know of cases where money has been advanced to societies, not by the Agricultural Credit Corporation..., but by societies working on the same principle.
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Debate: Seanad Éireann
https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/debate/seanad/1934-08-29/4/
29 Aug 1934 -
him that a refusal to accept this amendment will be simply restricting the avenues through which a co-operative...in the district from which he came, and I know as a fact that he gave financial accommodation to the co-operative...Otherwise it may keep away from a society very valuable help at a critical time.
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Debate: Seanad Éireann
https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/debate/seanad/1934-08-29/4/
29 Aug 1934 -
to some of us to be doing what, in the ordinary way, would be regarded as giving a preference to the Agricultural...I suggest to the Minister that instead of having the Bill general in its application it should be confined...to the societies that made those agreements with the Agricultural Credit Corporation.
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Debate: Dáil Éireann
https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/debate/dail/1934-08-01/17/
1 Aug 1934 -
The Government at the time—it was about 1929 this thing occurred—and the Minister for Agriculture in...The remainder was advanced by the Agricultural Credit Corporation....The Agricultural Credit Corporation at the time realised that it had not full powers to do that, but...it was told that there was a Co-operative Bill in preparation and that things would be made right for...it under the Bill.
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Debate: Seanad Éireann
https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/debate/seanad/1934-08-29/4/
29 Aug 1934 -
Johnson Would the Minister clear this up: whether the societies mentioned in the proposed schedule were...form and understanding that they were to be capitalised, as to a great part of their capital, by the Agricultural...If any of these societies are to look for new money the shareholders were taken into consultation and...the whole proceedings were conducted when the society was formed on the understanding that that would
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Debate: Dáil Éireann
https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/debate/dail/1934-06-19/11/
19 Jun 1934 -
Lemass The case of the society known as the Templecrone Co-operative Society?
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Debate: Dáil Éireann
https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/debate/dail/1936-05-19/17/
19 May 1936 -
Professor O'Sullivan In 1934 over 1931, a year when this measure was not in existence, and you had...32 co-operative societies then.
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Debate: Seanad Éireann
https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/debate/seanad/1934-08-29/4/
29 Aug 1934 -
Jameson I expect the Minister will tell us, on Report Stage, the facts in connection with these societies...I ask the Committee to confine the Bill to certain societies specified....It would be a very bad Bill if it worked so that it could be applied to any or to an unlimited number...of societies....But if it is made certain that it is to be applied only to a specified lot of societies I think the
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Debate: Dáil Éireann
https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/debate/dail/1934-08-01/21/
1 Aug 1934 -
unfortunate part of it is that unless a sufficient quota of tobacco is available to give enough work to the co-operative...societies that are dealing with rehandling, these societies will not be able to go ahead....Should there be a balance after the co-operative societies have dealt with what they are capable of dealing
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Debate: Seanad Éireann
https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/debate/seanad/1934-08-29/4/
29 Aug 1934 -
, because they got to know that the Agricultural Credit Corporation could not collect it legally....With regard to the amendment of Senator Jameson, instead of the Agricultural Credit Corporation applying...to the Minister for Agriculture showing that these conditions have been fulfilled and asking for an...The Agricultural Credit Corporation say, as far as they are concerned, that it does not matter to them...The societies, however, might object to having their names published.
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Debate: Dáil Éireann
https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/debate/dail/1934-08-01/21/
1 Aug 1934 -
It is a question whether the co-operative societies will naturally capture all the business.
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Debate: Dáil Éireann
https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/debate/dail/1928-07-06/12/
6 Jul 1928 -
HOGAN Credit and co-operative societies. We are at one with the Agricultural Credit Corporation....It is not my business to organise credit societies—that is the business of the I.A.O.S....The Department of Agriculture, both in the interests of co-operation itself and of the Department, should...not be asked to take on the work of organising credit or co-operative societies.
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Debate: Dáil Éireann
https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/debate/dail/1934-07-19/24/
19 Jul 1934 -
and say "Now the time has come when we must call up capital to pay liabilities", but you would issue debentures
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Debate: Dáil Éireann
https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/debate/dail/1934-08-01/21/
1 Aug 1934 -
If the rehandling licences are confined to the co-operative societies of growers, who have rehandling...After all, there is a very strong argument for confining rehandlers' licences solely to co-operative...I understand that in Cork our co-operative society can deal with 15,000 lbs. of tobacco a week in the...From what I can see, I think the co-operative society in Meath will be able to cope with a large quantity...I think there are a couple of other co-operative societies which are prepared to go ahead as rehandling
