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Dáil Éireann díospóireacht -
Thursday, 21 Feb 1929

Vol. 28 No. 2

Public Business. - Army Pensions—Vote 65.

I move:—

Go ndeontar suim ná raghaidh thar £10 chun íoctha an Mhuirir a thiocfidh chun bheith iníoctha i rith na bliana dar críoch an 31adh lá de Mhárta, 1929, chun Pinsin Chréachta agus Mhíábaltachta, Liúntaisí agus Aiscí fé sna hAchtanna Arm-Phinsean, 1923 agus 1927, agus chun síntiúisí agus costaisí iolardha mar gheall ar a Riara san agus chun Pinsin d'íoc fé Acht na bPinsean Seirbhíse Mileata, 1924.

That a sum not exceeding £10 be granted to defray the Charge which will come in course of payment during the year ending on the 31st day of March, 1929, for Wound and Disability Pensions, Allowances and Gratuities under the Army Pensions Acts, 1923 and 1927, and for sundry contributions and expenses in respect of the administration thereof and to pay Pensions under the Military Service Pensions Act, 1924.

This is a sum of £10 as a token Vote for money that was expended during the two years, 1923-24 and 1925-26. There was a Wound Pensions Act passed in 1923 and certain applicants under that Act, who were wounded men, and who had applied for pensions, had to come to Dublin. It was necessary, both in their own interest and in the interest of diminishing the amount of the pension that they would be due to receive, to give them medical treatment in St. Bricin's Hospital. There was no provision in the Estimate in these years for that treatment, and the expenditure under that head was disallowed by the Public Accounts Committee. Therefore, the sum expended will be met out of savings in the current year, with the exception of this token £10. The Supplementary Estimate is brought in arising out of the Public Accounts Committee's decision that it was not covered in the Estimates for these years and that it should be covered now.

Will the Minister indicate the various headings under which the anticipated savings are expected?

Out of which this will be met?

It is stated that the anticipated savings in other services will amount to £11,846.

May I take it that what the Minister really means to convey by the introduction of the Estimate is somewhat the same as applies to the Minister for Agriculture? Certain payments were made over a certain period which the Public Accounts Committee found could not be entertained under the interpretation of the Act covering such payments, and that after a number of years the Department finds that in order to regularise the expenditure already made they must get these payments brought into order—that it is only a token Vote and involves no expenditure?

It settles that particular problem we were wrangling about for some time?

It was extra-statutory during these years, but it was actually made all right by the Act of 1927. We are only covering the expenditure during these years when it was not covered.

Question put and agreed to.
Progress ordered to be reported.
The Dáil went out of Committee.
Progress reported: Committee to sit again to-morrow.
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