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Dáil Éireann díospóireacht -
Wednesday, 15 Apr 1959

Vol. 174 No. 3

Ceisteanna—Questions. Oral Answers. - Provision of School Buildings.

33.

asked the Minister for Education if he will state (a) the total number of schools which it has been decided to close without replacement, (b) the reasons for such decisions, (c) the total number of schools it is proposed to repair for temporary use only, (d) the average number of years for which it is anticipated these schools will be required, and (e) what transport and other arrangements, if any, have been made for the children remaining to be educated in those areas when their local schools are permanently closed.

34.

asked the Minister for Education what were the "other factors" which were given as a reason in a reply of 8th April, 1959, for the removal of six schools in County Cavan from the list of schools requiring replacement.

35.

asked the Minister for Education if he will state the total number of schools which have been removed from the official list of schools needing replacement or major reconstruction between March, 1958, and February,1959, without being replaced by new schools or receiving major reconstruction.

36.

asked the Minister for Education how he reconciles the fact that in a reply of 25th February, 1959, concerning the number of schools required to be built in Tipperary in 1959, he gave the figure of fifty, while in a reply of 6th March, 1958, the number needed was given as sixty-seven, and the figure of schools returned by him as completed since 1958 was one.

37.

asked the Minister for Education how he reconciles the fact that in a reply of 25th February, 1959, concerning the number of schools required to be built in Kerry in 1959, he gave the figure of fifty-four, while in a reply of 6th March, 1958, the number needed was given as sixty-two, and the figures of schools returned by him as completed since 1958 was three.

38.

asked the Minister for Education how he reconciles the fact that in a reply of 25th February, 1959, concerning the number of schools required to be built in Clare in 1959, he gave the figure of thirty-seven, while in a reply of 6th March, 1958, the number needed was given as forty-five, and the figures of schools returned by him as completed since 1958 was four.

39.

asked the Minister for Education how he recounciles the fact that in a reply of 25th February, 1959, concerning the number of schools required to be built in Wicklow in 1959, he gave the figure of twenty-seven, while in a reply of 6th March, 1958, the number needed was given as thirty-four, and the figure of schools returned by him as completed since 1958 was one.

A Cheann Comhairle, I propose with your permission to take Questions numbers 33 to 39 together.

I would like to explain for the Deputy's information the general procedure in connection with the question of the provision of new national schools. When the attention of my Department is drawn to the need for the replacement of a school building, either by way of an application from the Manager or a report by the school Inspector or the County Medical Officer, the Commissioners of Public Works are asked for a report on the structural and sanitary condition of the existing premises together with a recommendation as to whether a new school should be provided.

If the Commissioners recommend that from the point of view of the structural condition of an old school it should be replaced by a new building the name of the school is placed on a list temporarily pending investigation of the case by my Department from other points of view. In this investigation consideration is given to the following matters:—

(i) whether the school is needed in the district having regard to the number of pupils on the roll and to the educational facilities available in neighbouring schools,

(ii) whether a rearrangement of schools in the district could be effected with a view to the replacement of two or more schools by a central school,

(iii) whether amalgamation of the school recommended for replacement with a neighbouring school would be feasible.

These matters are examined in the light of population trends and the suitability of existing school buildings in the district. The examination in the light of population trends very often entails the keeping of cases under review for a period of time.

In some cases it has been found that due to small and declining attendances new school buildings would not be warranted, and that schemes of works to render the existing school buildings serviceable for a further period would be the proper course to take. In other cases the provision of central schools to replace two or more existing schools, or the amalgamation of defective schools with neighbouring schools is the course adopted.

It will, accordingly, be understood that not all schools recommended for replacement are replaced by new schools, and that the numbers of defective school buildings in need of replacement shown on the lists compiled in my Department must fluctuate from time to time. The fact that schools are removed from the lists does not mean that they then cease to function as national schools.

These factors coupled with the fact that the figures given to the Deputy on the 6th March, 1958, and the 25th February, 1959, comprised only cases where building operations had not begun explains what, apparently, the Deputy regards as discrepancies in the figures supplied in relation to Counties Tipperary, Kerry, Clare and Wicklow.

These factors also make it impossible for me to give the Deputy precise information of the nature requested in Questions Numbers 33 and 35.

In regard to Question Number 34, it will be evident from the information now furnished to the Deputy what were the "other factors" referred to in my reply to a question from him on the 8th April, 1959.

Could I ask the Minister if there has been a net reduction in the total number of new schools needed over, say, any particular period of ten, 15 or 20 years? Has there been a reduction in the number required ten years ago?

It is very difficult to give an answer to such a question because schools are always coming under examination, that is, as they become less habitable and as they are reported on. Generally speaking, the rate of construction is steadily on the increase in the matter of school building.

The Minister says, in reference to schools which it has been decided to replace, that these schools may be kept on as national schools. Does that mean he takes a decision revoking the decision of the medical inspector closing a school, in certain circumstances in which he originally decided the school should be closed?

That depends on a number of factors—first of all, whether the manager of the school requires a new school or whether he would suggest it be amalgamated with another school in the area, and whether the Office of Public Works may decide it is possible to reconstruct rather than replace.

This is one of the most striking indices of the failure of economic policy and the flight from rural Ireland. The fact that the Government are continuing with that position shows they have no solution.

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