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Dáil Éireann díospóireacht -
Friday, 15 Nov 1974

Vol. 275 No. 10

Ceisteanna—Questions. Oral Answers. - Teacher Training Colleges.

39.

asked the Minister for Education the reason for the reduction in the intake of pupils to teacher training colleges; and if he considers that this step will lead to a shortage of teachers in the near future.

Mr. R. Burke

In 1973 the number of students admitted to the training colleges was abnormally increased for the purpose of providing a pool of teachers to meet the requirements of the situation to arise in 1976 when, because of the introduction of the three-year course of training in 1974, there would be a very considerably reduced output from the colleges on 1st July, 1976. Recruitment in 1974 has reverted to more normal annual average levels.

How many were taken into the training colleges in 1973-74 and in 1974-75?

Mr. R. Burke

The figures are 1,112 and 782 respectively.

Does the Minister feel that he will be able to continue to reduce the pupil-teacher ratio with the number taken in in the present year?

Mr. R. Burke

I would hesitate to forecast what would happen in the years after 1977.

40.

asked the Minister for Education if he will abolish the singing test requirement which female candidates for training college entrance examinations must pass if they have not obtained 350 points in the leaving certificate examination; if he will explain the rationale behind such a requirement; and if he will make a statement on the matter.

Mr. R. Burke

Singing is an essential element in the primary school curriculum. In the junior classes particularly, it is integrated with the teaching of other subjects. Because of this as many teachers as possible should be able to sing to the extent necessary to enable them to teach the curriculum.

The general question of entry requirements for the 1975 competition is at present under consideration in consultation with the principals of the training colleges. I am not, therefore, in a position to make a statement on this matter at present but hope to do so shortly.

Would the Minister agree that there is discrimination against female candidates for places in training colleges as compared with their male counterparts?

Mr. R. Burke

I hesitate to accept the word "discrimination" but there are differences with regard to the recruitment of different categories of teachers.

Would the Minister not agree that if a female candidate who cannot sing but has eight honours is refused a place in these colleges and a male who has three or four honours and also cannot sing, gets in, there is discrimination on a sex basis?

Mr. R. Burke

I would not accept the point that a female student with eight honours would be required to pass the singing test.

It happens.

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