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Dáil Éireann díospóireacht -
Thursday, 27 Jan 1977

Vol. 296 No. 3

Financial Statement, 1977: Motion (Resumed).

Debate resumed on the following motion:
That Dáil Éireann takes note of the Financial Statement made by the Minister for Finance on 26th January 1977.
—(The Taoiseach.)

I had come to the point in my contribution where I was talking of the necessity for planning and also for the creation of a new environment in which enterprise should prosper. Now that we have the proper environment, might it not help if the various paraphernalia and the PR drama normally associated with budget day should not be scrapped? I made the point at the beginning of this contribution that the budget was a 19th century administrative arrangement which has been made do a 20th century social and economic job and I think that has given rise to certain anomalies and has also given rise to the creation of an atmosphere immediately prior to budget day which is really hostile to the creation of a proper environment for investment.

Over the last three weeks we have been subjected to various interpretations of different pieces of budgetary documentation, to prognostications and forecasts of what the budget will contain and, in very many instances we had groups making representations to the Government and making them public. Since any budget having been finally passed by this House contains three different elements, it is very difficult until budget day to compare, for example, what was in the Estimates with what was in the budget out-turn the previous year.

There are three elements in budgetary expenditure. First, there are the Estimates as published in the Book of Estimates. Then, as in recent years, provision has been made for the national pay agreement which is usually filled in on budget day and which is excluded from the Estimates. In addition, there are any budgetary increases in social welfare or other areas of current expenditure and also as we discovered yesterday, increases in the public capital programme. Until all those figures are aggregated, what anybody is doing is comparing an out-turn which contains all those elements mainly with the Estimates for capital and non-capital services as published prior to budget day. One is not comparing like with like. Therefore, you can have people running scare headlines, as The Evening Press did, about massive cutbacks in various services which, in the case of the health services, we now know to be increasing in the current year by 19.2 per cent which is running far ahead of any estimate of inflation for 1977 which I have had.

There is false theatre about budget day and this introduces an element of uncertainty and public confusion at the beginning of the year which is not conducive to proper economic management. A lot of the paraphernalia and PR drama associated with budget day could conveniently be dropped with many other British treatments which we have incorporated into our public life. We should move more in the direction of continental practice; for instance, in the case of the recent general election in Austria the budget was published prior to that and was in itself the subject of public debate during the campaign and was only given legislative effect when the new Government was elected, I am glad to say a socialist one, as was the outgoing one. I think it is a far more sensible and less hysterical way of dealing with short-term economic management because the drama of cuts, increases and concessions distracts attention from longterm management problems with which the budget is necessarily concerned.

In yesterday's budget statement, for example, there is only one passing reference to planning and that came at the very end. Personally, I am not surprised at this or disappointed because I understand the very brief reference made at the end of the speech because the focus of attention was necessarily on the increases, cuts and concessions and so on, with the media standing by waiting for the Minister's speech page by page, live coverage on radio and television, special editions of newspapers and special programmes that evening on radio and television— a very big event indeed. So, the question of planning and of generating sufficient jobs in the future is buried and lost in the immediacy of comments and people evaluating how they individually will be affected by the various changes in the budget.

Yet, in a way, the most important elements in the budget yesterday were the Minister's references, brief and all as they were, to planning because if we are to get the jobs we require to give everybody a job without being forced to emigrate we must have a massive expansion in job creation and for that we must have planning with all the administrative changes it involves and with the change which is involved in terms of the alleged shift between private enterprise and the State, and the change in the environment in which difficult decisions will be made. Planning, if it is to be done properly and in a way which will give the employment we require, needs in my view pretty fundamental changes, for example, in the public service, an issue which has not been debated in this House or in public anywhere. To think one can get proper planning without reforming the public service is just hoping for the impossible. From the point of view of propaganda it may be convenient to say that one is committed to planning when practically all are committed to planning now, even those firmly in a right wing approach to society, but we shall not have it in any meaningful sense unless we change the public service and change the relationship of private enterprise to the State.

We must have a new role for the State sector. It must be released from the shackles which have confined it to the cinderella areas of the economy in the past. We must release it from the simple criterion of profit and loss as being the measure of success or failure and we must build in sophisticated cost benefit approaches to State investment. All of the State sectors must be brought within the umbrella of a State development corporation which was referred to in the speech of our Party Leader, the Tánaiste, at our conference last November because while we have had a phenomenal economic performance last year by international standards it is not enough in terms of job requirements.

Output went up, as the Minister for Finance said yesterday, by 10 per cent in 1976 and it is now at levels equal to or greater than the levels of 1974 which were the highest levels of output ever achieved in this country. We are now at an historic high point in terms of output and yet employment is not falling. Exports were up last year by 20 per cent in volume and there were massive increases in productivity. Still we cannot get down towards the level of unemployment which was there at the beginning of the crisis in 1974 because the truth is that we are a demographic oddity in European terms and, no matter how well we do, it will not show up in terms of jobs unless we do substantially better. We have got to do far better than any of our European neighbours if we are to make an impact on unemployment. We have this unique demographic problem, the dimensions of which we now know because of the studies of Professor Brendan Walsh and published by the NESC. We have the fastest growing population in the EEC. There has been a social revolution here because of the ending of emigration. The last inter-censal period shows that for the first time in this century we have had net inflow of population. The Green Paper said the figure of 12,000 from 1971 to 1976 compared to 135,000 who emigrated in the previous ten years.

As the Minister for Finance said last year, we now have the necessity of creating over 30,000 jobs each year between now and 1980 if we are to get close to full employment. In other words, we require to create twice the number of jobs every year that we created in the best year, 1973, when we generated 12,000 to 13,000 jobs. Otherwise there will be social chaos in a situation where emigration is no longer a safety valve, a mechanism for exporting unwanted population.

For that reason I believe we must have resort to proper economic planning and to a considerable extension of the State sector; because private enterprise on its own, no matter how much it is helped by the State, is not going to do the job. The Minister himself said in his speech that, despite massive investment by the State in the private sector, private enterprise had not expanded at the rate he had hoped for and that the total employment between 1971-72 compared with last year was still the same. It is against this background that one must evaluate the recent Fianna Fáil proposal to create 20,000 jobs out of the air, relying only on private enterprise, while the best ever done in the past was the creation of 12,000 jobs in 1973.

This budget gives private enterprise opportunity and incentive. It provides it with practically everything that has been demanded of the State during the past three years. I hope that advantage will be taken of these opportunities. But, no matter how well private enterprise does, it will not be sufficient to provide everyone currently on the unemployed register with a job or those about to leave school or university with the prospect of employment. It is as simple as that. So we need a huge expansion in job creation and that can only come from a release of the energies in the State sector.

Lastly, I refer to an item not mentioned in the Minister's speech yesterday. I was disappointed at his failure to make any reference to the link with sterling. I believe it is firmly established in economic theory that a small open economy such as ours with a fixed exchange rate with its largest trading partner has no independent price level in the long run. I am not saying that short run deviations are not possible but I am saying that independence in the long run is simply not possible. For example, between February, 1973, and last August the United Kingdom CPI went up by 78½ per cent whereas the CPI in Ireland went up by 76 per cent. That is a correlation so strong that it cannot be contested. We have had a period of devaluation since the £ was floated and we were told by the Minister, and indeed by Deputy Colley, that it was good for us and a stimulus to employment because it made us competitive.

The Deputy has something over two minutes left.

Yet when the £ recovered recently because of the apparent resolution of the sterling balances the newspapers could tell us that this was a boost to the Irish economy. No wonder there is public confusion on the matter. When the £ goes down it is good for us; when the £ goes up it is good for us. Both cannot be simultaneously correct. I believe that the United Kingdom rate of inflation will remain high and for that reason I must disagree with the prognosis that the £ will not fall in the course of the current year. In my view the £ will fall. We should avail of the opportunity then to cut off if we want to achieve a situation of low inflation. We would then have a comprehensive package which would provide us with the short-term possibilities for getting out of the current recession. In addition I would hope that we would take advantage of the forward thrust of yesterday's budget to plan for the long term by bringing in a proper planning mechanism and by expanding the State sector so that we can begin adequately to deal with the question of unemployment which has beaten every Government since independence.

I was amazed to hear Deputy Halligan say he welcomed the fact that the person earning £15,000 or £20,000 a year will gain so much. In one case a man will have £1,200 more in his pocket as a result of this budget and the man with £20,000 a year will gain £2,000 extra. Deputy Halligan said he was a socialist and welcomed this. It is completely contradictory to what I would expect from a socialist and it shows some of the tax inequities in this budget. The people in the very high income bracket are coming out extremely well while people in the lower and middle income brackets are not gaining so much.

Deputy Halligan mentioned the figure of one and a half million unemployed in Britain and one million in Germany. I should like to point out that in both those countries the percentage unemployment is far lower than it is here. The figure here is roughly 10 per cent. In Britain the figure is approaching that, but in Germany one million unemployed represents only 5 per cent. We should like our figure to be as low as that.

Unemployment has not been mentioned very often recently, though I did hear it referred to on the news last Friday morning. In one week since Christmas the figure jumped by 4,500, from 111,000 to over 115,000 and the following week the figure rose to 117,000, the highest figure we have ever had. It is a big drain on the country to have this very high unemployment rate. The budget in some small way is trying to give a little stimulus to employment, but it is quite small. It is not much help to the industrialists trying to generate more employment in industry. There should have been more emphasis in the budget on the creation of jobs. The Minister himself said he reckoned there would be 7,000 more jobs created this year. Some of his predictions have not been too good in the past and I hope the figure will be higher. I feel that he should be aiming at a much higher figure. Deputy Halligan said that we pulled a figure of 20,000 jobs out of the air. He has a degree in economics and he would have been in a position to evaluate the figures given in the Fianna Fáil policy document. He did not do so and no economist has challenged those figures. The figures are accurate. If they were really examined they would highlight the failure of the Government to provide extra jobs since they took office. That is why they took an airy fairy attitude.

Deputy Halligan could have gone through our document, looked at the figures and evaluated them, but he did not do that. Those figures are made up of 5,000 jobs in the public sector, 5,000 for school leavers, 5,000 in industry and 5,000 in the building industry. He said we were relying on the private sector, but that was not so. He also said their Green Paper contained plans for the future. Most commentators said it was only a discussion document, while our document contained some useful suggestions and the Minister took up a few of them in his budget speech yesterday.

Deputy Halligan also said that the banks should have a two-tier system of loans and that they should accept losses where loans have been made for development purposes as their contribution to the social conscience. It is hard to see the thinking behind that statement because financial institutions must make money. Admittedly, when one sees their high profits one might feel that they should do this, but if they did they would increase their interest rates to cushion their losses. If that type of thinking were implemented it would have serious repercussions. A Government could introduce a two-tier system for a certain period in priority areas, such as housing.

Deputy Halligan said that only one in ten farmers was liable for tax. This figure looks grand but when you analyse it you will see that this is not so. The Minister said he got around £6 million in tax from farmers last year, £4 million the year before and he anticipated £35 million this year. That is the real sting; a jump from £6 million to £35 million in one year. There are only 9,000 farmers in the net now and a further 6,000 will be coming in this year.

The first year the tax was introduced, 1974, was a very bad year. Very few farmers made a profit; many made a loss which has been carried over the next two years. They are now coming out of that loss situation and this year the Minister will reap the benefit in taxes, plus the payments they will make in September, giving an interest free loan to the Government, if they appeal, until an assessment has been made. We all know how long it takes an inspector of taxes to deal with accounts. That applies to the one in ten referred to by Deputy Halligan.

There are many farmers caught under section 28 of the 1974 Act who are living on uneconomic farms and who have to take another job to supplement the income needed to rear and educate their families. If a man's valuation is over £20 he loses half his tax free allowances. More than 15,000 people are caught under this section. This shows that it is easy to pick figures to suit your case.

I was glad to hear Deputy Halligan mention Government planning. For the past few years we have been saying that the Government have no planning programmes. As far back as last January the Tánaiste said we needed planning. He repeated that at the Labour Party Conference, yet we heard nothing about it in the budget. Seemingly one part of the Coalition say there is no need for forward planning, and that includes the Minister for Finance.

Forward planning is most important. People who run businesses, farms or industries plan ahead. This is necessary if they intend expanding their output. If the Government are to set an example to industry, farming, employment agencies and so on, one would expect them to have programmes planned for the years ahead. This is especially essential in an inflationary period if the rate of inflation is to be reduced. There has been a difference of opinion about what the rate of inflation will be at the end of the year. Some economists say it will drop to 14 or 15 per cent while the Minister says it will be nearer the single figures. In my opinion that is just wishful thinking. It would be very hard to do that but with good planning it is possible. Although we did not have the facilities of the civil service behind us we prepared a four-year plan that would cut the rate of inflation from 20 per cent to 5 per cent between the third and fourth years.

When we were in Government we had increased growth in our economy for 16 successive years and this was the result of forward planning. The budget is designed for the purpose of ensuring the Coalition's return to office at an early stage. Presumably the national wage agreement will be ratified by the end of next month and after that we can expect a general election at any time.

The Minister said that we proved to have been better at managing our affairs last year than we anticipated. Although he anticipated then a deficit in our ordinary current expenditure of £329 million, it transpired that the figure was £201 million, and for this the Minister was complimenting himself. Apparently he overlooked the fact that there was a discrepancy of £128 million in his calculations. Any Government that would lose £201 million on ordinary working accounts would need to have a rethink about their approach. We are told that the deficit this year will increase to £217 million. Fianna Fáil Governments succeeded in keeping down inflation rates by paying their way, by keeping their ordinary housekeeping on an even keel. The most we ever lost was about £5 million and that was for the last year we were in office. Generally the figure up to then was of the order of £1 million or £2 million. This Government have been on a spending spree during the past four years. They have borrowed from abroad to pay for all those deficits. Last autumn it was revealed that our national debt had increased from £1,200 million to £3,000 million within the space of three years with £800 million of that being for ordinary housekeeping accounts. The situation is serious when a country must pay for all that money. In the short term borrowing is all right, but the difficulty arises when the money has to be repaid. I suppose if the Coalition are returned to office they will be off again on their borrowing merry-go-round. Could they not have borrowed some of this money from sources at home? The fall in the value of the £ has meant their having to pay very dearly for their foreign borrowing. Take, for example, the loan they raised last year of £150 million. If that money had to be paid back to-day the Government would be paying approximately £185 million plus interest for 12 months.

The Government have at their disposal within the civil service people who are competent to advise on these matters. If the borrowings had been from institutions at home rather than from abroad the interest would be going into our own economy and there would be some chance of recovering some of it by way of taxation since the banks are the depositing agencies for the general public. Perhaps in deciding to borrow abroad the Government thought they were doing right from the point of view of our balance of payments. When we came to office after the period of the last Coalition we found that our external assets were practically exhausted and we set about righting the situation. In the short term money coming into the country by way of borrowing can be likened to the benefits that accrue from exports, but with the difference that produce for export generates employment and buoyancy in the economy whereas borrowing must be paid for dearly. Our national debt has increased to the astronomical figure of £448 million. Industry with its reduced number of workers will have to service this debt whereas we should be encouraging industry to recover and to increase production. When we left office the rate of inflation was about 8 per cent and the German rate at that time was about 7 per cent. Now the rate for us is more than 20 per cent while the Germans have been able to reduce their inflation level to about 3.9 per cent.

There is a spending spree designed to get this Government back in office at the next general election. I believe that is why there was so much foreign borrowing in the last four years. This budget is a city orientated budget. That is more or less to be expected from a city based Government.

One aspect of farming, and it is an important aspect, has not been taken into account. A farmer can have the same number of beasts as he had last year but the price can have increased a good deal. The increase could be around £80 to £90 a head. Despite that the profit margin will be the same. Nevertheless the Minister considers that that £80 represents increased income and he will compel the farmer to pay tax on that. There is no equity in this. The allowances given to industry are suitable but they are not suitable in the case of the farmers because, even though produce on the farm may increase a good bit, the farmer will not make one extra penny. The margin of profit will be roughly the same irrespective of whether the same number of animals are worth £10 or £400. A farm of 70 or 80 acres would be roughly equivalent to the £100,000 company. Now that company could have a very big income of £30,000 or £40,000.

Some of them do not have that kind of income.

Inflation has sent some of them to the ground. They have become bankrupt. We have had a very great many bankruptcies. I am talking about the company that has been able to keep its head above water. The income return is much higher in the case of the company than it is on the farm but the concession is on actual profits. There are two types of profits—stock increase and actual profit. The company can get a much bigger profit than the farm of the same capital value. The concession is not much use to the farmer though it can be of substantial value to industry. I emphasise that. With the farmer it is the stock. It is not the overall value of them. It is not the value of the farm. It is the livelihood he earns from it. He is not like the public company which looks at the Stock Exchange to see whether shares are going up or down. I emphasise that.

More incentives should have been given to exporters, industrial and agricultural. Business people should be encouraged to develop and create more employment. Unemployment figures are a serious factor for any Government. Today we have 150,000 unemployed. They have to get unemployment benefit and unemployment assistance. If they were working they would be paying for stamps and they would be paying taxes. It is the duty of any Government to keep unemployment figures down as low as possible.

Industrialists believe they are not getting the back-up service they should from the Government. Recently an industrialist told me that after the war the only lorries available were what were known as "bangers" but those bangers could do two journeys in a day to Dublin. The sophisticated, modern lorry can do only one run because of traffic jams. This is a disadvantage to industry. There should be better roads. There are more cars on the roads and that is a good thing because it means people are better off. Other countries have been forging ahead in road development and the results of that road development can be seen in their industrial development. Remember, a great deal of money has to be invested in the modern type of lorry.

There is then the question of telephones. Waiting on telephone connections can mean a loss of money in industry because the time of executives is wasted. At the moment by dialling one will get about one in three calls. One must go through the exchange for the other two. Last night I tried to dial a constitutent and I got Carrick-on-Shannon. That is not the first time that has happened. Executives are highly paid and it is not fair that their time should be wasted. In the city it is an even money chance that you will be able to dial the number you want. One would imagine we would get a better service in this House with the Minister in occupation for a good part of the week. Industry needs this service to make it more efficient and to enable industrialists to expand their businesses.

No one will question the social welfare increases. The Parliamentary Secretary said the 15 per cent increase was in line with inflation, although the official figures quoted in the papers put it in the region of 20 per cent. Therefore, we would have expected a larger increase in social welfare payments. I welcome the £1 a week extra granted to old age pensioners living alone. Over the past few years old age pensioners living alone, or two living together, have been getting a home assistance supplement. The system will be more efficient when they get it by right direct from the Department as against having to look for it from the home assistance officer. Quite a number of those people do not like looking for assistance. They have old memories of what assistance officers meant. They felt they were looking for charity. It is different now. Young people know now that home assistance helps out when a person is in need. It is a loan which can be paid back.

One aspect of social welfare has been bothering me for the past few months. The Government have been hitting recipients of disability benefit fairly hard over the past six months. I got quite a number of complaints about people being refused this benefit. I put down a question today asking the Minister the number of persons on disability benefit referred to medical referees in each month in 1973, 1974, 1975 and 1976, and the number adjudged to be capable of work. The figures given in the reply bear out the information I have been getting in the field. In 1973, about 10 per cent were adjudged capable of work. The figure was roughly the same in 1974. In 1975, roughly 2,000 were referred to medical referees and roughly 10 per cent were adjudged capable of work. In 1976, about 14 per cent were considered capable of work. The number referred had increased to roughly 3,500. The figure then rose to 4,000, 5,000, 6,000 and 7,000 by the end of the year. The figure of those considered capable of work rose to about 25 per cent.

I have known cases of where a person was considered to be 40 per cent disabled for occupational injuries purposes in one week and the next week he was brought before a medical referee and was considered capable of working. There is a big discrepancy between two sections of the same Department. I know a number of people who were found 20 per cent disabled for occupational injuries purposes and are still considered capable of working. People who have been on monthly certificates for years and were hardly ever brought before a medical referee are considered fit for work. I put down this question because I felt many more people were being brought before the medical referees at the latter end of last year and the percentage of those considered capable of working had increased dramatically when you would imagine it would be the other way around.

There should be some co-ordination between occupational injury benefit and disablement benefit. We should not have two doctors contradicting each other. It appears to me that the Government were trying to take as many people as possible off disability benefit in the past six months. That is not what you would expect from a Government sympathetic to people who are not feeling too well. These figures bear out what I have been seeing in the field and it is not something any Government could be proud of. I hope there will be a reversal of that position because doctors are all the same. They are supposed to give their opinion but there must be a directive issued from the top: "Bring in as many as you can who are on disability benefit", telling the doctors to be fairly hard on them and knock them off at all costs; it is a saving to the Government.

Deputy Halligan mentioned that the Government had to face an event they could never have anticipated—the sudden increase in the price of oil of £100 million in one year—that they deserved credit for overcoming it, particularly a crisis that hit our economy so hard. The Government had two options open to them there. The one they took was to tax oil even more in an endeavour to keep consumption down. One must remember that this Minister has increased oil prices considerably and particularly petrol by 33 pence a gallon since assuming office. That was an incorrect policy. The increased price of oil, particularly in relation to industry, is considered to be one of the prime causes of inflation and job losses. Had there been a Fianna Fáil Government in office at that time they would have subsidised the price of oil, practically to the extent of the entire £100 million, or to needy industries unable to meet the increased cost. Had that been done we would not have experienced the large increase in unemployment that has taken place; it would have been good economics.

The Government's policy on extra taxation and the number of people unemployed as a result accounted for almost the £100 million involved. Heavens knows it would have been better to have had people working than paying out unemployment benefit and having industries being run down with the resultant financial losses to owners and employees alike. It is souldestroying for a person to be unemployed over a long period, particularly when it is through no fault of his own. That has been the result of the increased price of oil. Even had the Government not paid out the full amount in unemployment benefit they would have been reimbursed by such people being retained in employment between their stamps and income tax. Subsidisation of the price of oil would have been well justified. Had that type of policy been followed we would not have today the large numbers of people unemployed.

In his budget statement the Minister said that we had not used up all of our capital allocation last year. That is extremely bad because it is those capital moneys that go into investment thereby creating employment. Rather the Government should have been pressing forward for schemes in relation to industry and otherwise to have that money invested. We on this side of the House would welcome the allocation of any moneys for capital development because, in that way, one is building for the future. In a year of recession, with such high unemployment figures, the fact that we did not use up all of our budget capital allocation demonstrates a lack of drive on the part of the Ministers concerned. More incentive is needed. Going round the country one hears everywhere—from the person on the lowest wage to the professional or industrialist —that there is no incentive to work. The attitude appears to be: "Why kill ourselves? If we earn more, Richie will take it back from us". For example, the incentive is gone for the labourer. If he works overtime or Saturdays he finds that, when account has been taken of taxation, he is no better off. If he has to travel to work, he cannot meet the extra cost of petrol, car tax or insurance. All of these have risen so high he feels he is better off at home unemployed.

It is serious to hear such opinions expressed—that a person will not travel to work because it will not pay him to do so, that he is better off at home. Farmers did not know what way their taxes would work out although, to give them their due, they have been undertaking some development in the past few years because they have felt that our entry into the Common Market assured them of some future. However, the industrialist is afraid to develop because, if he does so, gets into fresh markets and enlarges his factory a lot of the money must be borrowed. That he is afraid to do because, if inflation runs any higher— with his latest expansion and commitments—in a couple of years he will be afraid that he will lose everything. He prefers to continue as he is, keeping the number of staff he has employed, in a come-day, go-day, God-send-Sunday type of attitude. Therefore, there is no incentive to him. The professional person is in the same position. There is no incentive to him. If he advances much more it all goes to the tax man and he is inclined to take life a little easier. That is a very dangerous mentality to get abroad in any country. The Minister should have done something more with regard to creating incentives. Of course, the daily papers today say he is handing out the carrots. He would need to hand them out somewhat more in an endeavour to create more incentives, to get people interested in doing more work and increasing their output.

Of course it is a good election budget to put the Government back in office but certainly there could have been more incentives given in an endeavour to keep employment going, and, in turn, reduce the unemployment figures proportionately. It would have been better for the Government and for the community because no community can tolerate a situation where 10 per cent of the people are unemployed.

I welcome many aspects of the budget as a serious attempt by the Government to deal with the realities of the financial and economic circumstances in which we find ourselves. That has been lacking under previous Governments and their Ministers for Finance in successive budgets. Budgets were classically held up as housekeeping accounts for the country. They were also used as election or political gimmicks. The previous speaker, rather gently and as if he believed it, said this is a good election budget. I wonder is it a good election budget.

(Dublin Central): Not when the people have read through the small print, which I hope they will do during the weekend.

The small and the big print come to the same thing in this budget. They will not need a magnifying glass to read the small print because there is none there. I brush aside these comments which Deputy Crinion gently made, as well as Deputy Fitzpatrick's—I should have said "my friend and colleague, Deputy Fitzpatrick"—somewhat rash intervention. He should realise as a man engaged in the retail trade that many aspects of that trade will not have to bear the increases people have expected.

(Dublin Central): It will take a decade to recover from last year's budgets.

It will take perhaps a decade for western Europe, indeed the entire world, to recover from the terrible situation in which it has found itself. That is what this budget has begun to do. We are a tiny country by world standards, with an open economy. As far as I understand that phrase, it means that any breeze that blows through a tunnel blows the weak back and the strong forward. There is a good deal we can do to save ourselves from the buffeting because of adverse winds. We have had a crisis imposed on us because of the increases in the price of oil. In the last few days there has been a massive increase in coal prices. They are things this country and the most powerful governments in the world have not been able to prevent. It has happened equally in America, England, Germany, France.

We are a poorer country and we have not been able to withstand it as well as the wealthier nations. Fortunately we have had certain things on our side. It has been said that little people do not suffer as much in a hurricane as tall people because they are closer to the ground. Through our association with the EEC our agricultural produce has attained a new value and our exchange of this produce abroad has helped us, but it could not of itself cure us of the effects of the crisis in which we found ourselves. I noticed in the newspapers recently that world prices of coffee and cocoa will be increased and that it is likely that tea prices will go up on world markets. We all use these things and this will hit our economy as well as the economies of other European countries because there is nothing we can do about it.

However, we can take steps to put our house in order and that is what the Government are doing. The great thing in this budget is that for the first time in many years the words "profit", "incentive" and "private enterprise" are no longer taken to be the dirty words, almost in the fourletter category, that they were. There are countries in Europe, particularly one not so far from us, in which the word profit has been taken to mean something that has been gouged out of the people, the product of unfair means, something which it was fair game to tax to the extent that Governments of the day thought it could be done. That did not happen in this country to the extent it did elsewhere.

As part of that philosophy which was prevalent in the democracies of Europe industries found themselves beaten to the ropes. If they succeeded in making profits the profits were taken away in taxation. Large and small industries found themselves in this position. Sometimes lip service was paid to small businesses. There was nothing special in small industries but there were more of them and therefore more votes. I am glad to see that is something this Government have endeavoured to fight against. They have seen there is nothing incompatible as between profits and high wages for the people engaged in industry and commerce. How on earth can our people be paid wages unless the businesses that do the work are prosperous? That has been happening all over the world and we with our open economy have suffered from that.

We are engaged in free enterprise— indeed it can hardly be called that in this day and age, but at least it is freer than in a lot of other countries where the people are tied into knots. I need not name any countries but there are those where industry is not allowed to carry on at all, where everything is done by the State. On account of the fact that we are overwhelmingly an agricultural country we have not the large businesses that other countries have. We have State-aided bodies and on balance the State-run, State-aided, whatever you like to call them, bodies do a good job, but they suffer from the weaknesses of State-aided concerns. Some people still have the idea that business and industry generally are here only on sufferance and should not be encouraged and certainly that they ought not to be encouraged in this budget. The Government have clearly and unequivocably shown by their legislative and financial acts that they believe the highest interests of the people can be served by helping industry to help itself, to create new employment and to create more jobs in existing employment. When this year 1977 is looked back on it will be seen that this was the first real governmental acknowledgment of the necessity for helping ourselves and building our own industries up to give employment to our own people whilst helping the poor and the sick and the handicapped generally whether the handicap is physical or from various other causes such as unemployment and so on. That has been done and is being done in this budget.

What also is not too clearly realised by people and cannot be pressed home too often is the trouble we are going through in this part of Ireland. When I say the trouble I mean the expense and the difficulties which have arisen by virtue of the situation in the North. This is not the place to discuss it and I do not intend to go into that vast and tragic subject here. However, one aspect of the trouble is the increase we have had to meet in cost and in numbers of our Garda Síochána. I was listening today to the Minister for Justice speaking before a group of businessmen and he referred to the extra gardaí who have been taken on. He said that something like 500 extra have been taken on for the Border area. That has added to the expense of running this country. Everybody knows that it is absolutely necessary.

We all take the very greatest pride in the Garda Síochána and I am glad to say they take pride in themselves. There is not a finer police force in the world than the men we have here. It costs something over £5,000 per head to have a garda fully trained—I am speaking from memory on that figure. The extra cost which will have to be borne is something like £5 million for the troubles on the Border, and that does not include the cost of all the extra squad cars and a lot of other extra costs that have arisen. When people talk about inflation and what the Government ought to do about it, one very little aspect of it perhaps is the complaints that come in about mugging and the desire to see more men on the beat. That also has to be paid for.

We have an Opposition here, ably represented by my colleague who is bearing the heat and burden of the day opposite to me here. That Opposition sometimes pay lip-service to the necessity for increasing the Garda Síochána and perhaps they make passing reference, like a superb pianist playing a very, very light scale than can hardly be heard, to the cost of it. Everybody wants to put on more gardaí but nobody wants to pay for them. A month or two after there has been an increase in the Defence Forces of the State we get a cry that the Government are being inflationary in their increases. Everybody wants to increase the wages of the employees of the civil service but nobody wants to pay the cost of that.

The Dáil adjourned at 5 p.m. until 2.30 p.m. on Tuesday, 1st February, 1977.

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