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Dáil Éireann díospóireacht -
Tuesday, 10 Nov 1981

Vol. 330 No. 9

Private Members' Business. - Government's Economic Policies: Motion.

I move:

That Dáil Éireann condemns the economic policies of the Coalition Government which have greatly increased prices and the cost of living and which are causing severe hardship for social welfare recipients and those on lower incomes and calls on the Government to take special measures immediately to safeguard the welfare and the living standards of these sections of the community this winter.

The Coalition Government's economic policies were in the first instance based on a false premise and constitute a recipe for economic disaster, for disruption and for gross inequity. The Taoiseach, as we know, exaggerated our economic difficulties and over-reacted grossly in the remedies which he took. One example of these remedies here tonight was just narrowly passed by this House, narrowly passed because it was a remedy purely and simply to save money at the expense of the education sector. This is only one of a long list of similar propositions by this Government which will be contested in this House by us. Indeed, we will appeal to the Labour Party and the Independent Members to recognise what is really happening here with this Government and the policies they are pursuing.

One of the most insidious and disturbing aspects of this Government's policy is the fact that it is shifting so much of the burden from taxation generally to indirect taxes. The Coalition began their term with a budget that was unnecessary and was aimed at raising unprecedented taxes not in this year but in the coming year, 1982. The purpose of this budget, which contributed so little to this year, can be seen only when we look into the context of next year. These indirect taxes are intended to collect sufficient money in 1982 to help offset the enormous cost of reducing direct taxation. For example, the 50 per cent increase in the 10 per cent rate of VAT will bring an extra yield of £188 million in 1982. One would ask if the savings which are being effected currently in education were necessary at all when you have that kind of money coming into the Government coffers next year, when this is in effect an equivalent of £268 per annum from each PAYE taxpayer.

One of the most unacceptable aspects of the Coalition policies is that the burden of this taxation will fall most heavily on the middle and lower income families. In simple terms these families are heavy consumers of goods and services, but because of their lower incomes and untaxable social welfare benefits they pay very little tax and stand to gain little from the reduction in direct taxation. These are the people to whom we want to address ourselves here tonight particularly. The Coalition's shift from direct taxation to indirect taxation will favour the rich and increase the burden on the poor. It will create more poverty in Ireland and will lead to greater unemployment. I believe that most of even the economic commentators at this stage are coming to recognise the validity of this argument. The Coalition have placed the indirect taxes on the normal household necessities instead of restricting them to luxuries. Of course, they did this because the tax yield from luxuries would be too small in Ireland. The band of luxuries is relatively small in relation to the area covered by the 10 per cent VAT rate, which is the area of normal household consumption.

The effects of these regressive indirect taxes are numerous. They will involve heavier taxes on the poor and on larger families in particular. The VAT increase is a good example since it increases the cost of school books, medicines and household goods. They also increase inflation. The recent budget package added 5 per cent to the CPI and next year's package will, it is estimated, add a further 8 per cent to the CPI. Therefore the Coalition have themselves increased prices by 13 per cent and consequently lessened the prospects for job creation. The indications now are that next year's inflation will be from 22 to 25 per cent as a result mainly of these policies. Indirect taxes result in people with the same incomes paying different amounts of tax according to their consumption patterns. Therefore, when the taxes are placed on non-luxury goods, as they have been by the Coalition, they fall most heavily on the middle and lower income families. Also they hit the one-income families harder than where both parents are working. In this way they are one of the economic instruments which force both parents to work, and they militate against the traditional Irish family.

The shift to heavier indirect taxation will create a greater divergence between the North and the South of Ireland by raising prices here relative to the North. The resulting increase in cross-Border smuggling already apparent will lead to less production here and consequently fewer jobs.

One of the most obvious aspects of the Coalition policies, which is already coming to light, is the whole question of rising prices. The Coalition's honeymoon is over. The gestation has run its course and a new cost of living monster has been born. This monster has easily recognisable distinguishing marks. Families and those on lower incomes will know them well. They include Government-led price increases in household requirements, medicines, schoolbooks and materials. VAT is one of the prime examples of this, with the increase from 10 per cent to 15 per cent. They also include excessive increases in transport costs through Coalition petrol, motoring and CIE cost increases. If we look at the increase in the price of petrol from 1 June to 16 October we see that the price of a gallon of petrol in June was £1.90 and on 16 October it was £2.26, an increase of 36p. Bottled gas, which surely is one of the most widely used methods of heating now especially for people on low incomes, has increased from£4.33 on 1 June to £5.94 on 16 October, an increase of£1.61. A bag of coal increased from £3.50 to £5, an increase of £1.50. When we look at the ESB we find expecially excessive and unwarranted increases. Electricity prices have been increased by 25 per cent on com-domestic bills and 29 per cent on commercial accounts. I pointed to this at the time when the Minister for Finance, Deputy Bruton, introduced his budget in July. He said at that time that the ESB had sought an increase. The NPC had given them 12.3 per cent, but because there was a delay in the implementation and the questioning of the need for such an increase at this time, he felt that they should be given a 25 per cent increase for a period of not less than a year to recoup what might have been lost to them.

This 25 per cent increase, which he included almost as an off-the-cuff remark, is now being shown on the normal domestic and commercial bills, except that on commercial bills it works out at 29 per cent. I have here a bill issued on 3 November which covers the September-October period, the first to include the Coalition increase. The increase in the general domestic rate is from 3.890 pence per unit to 4.360 pence per unit, a 12 per cent increase. The fuel variation surcharge goes up from 1.111 pence per unit to 2.017 pence per unit, an increase of 81 per cent. Even the least involved people in this area will recognise that the fuel variation surcharge should not in that time increase by anything of that order. Indeed, fuel prices have been relatively stable in that period, as was anticipated. The ordinary domestic consumer has been faced with this gigantic increase of 82 per cent in ESB bills.

I understand that the Society of St. vincent de Paul have considerable difficulty in helping people to meet ESB bills and I was quoted a figure of £250,000 which they expend in Dublin as a subsidy on these bills and for some other fuels. They will now come under extreme pressure and at least 25 per cent can be added to that requirement. There will also be more people in need of assistance. The impact of these ESB increases will be very serious for those on lower incomes.

The ESB accounts published in September show a profit of £6.3 million with £26 million for depreciation and £26 million for amortisation, giving them a cash flow of £58 million. Notwithstanding that, the Minister for Finance, as part of the Coalition policy on their assumption of office, gave the ESB a 25 per cent increase on their total electricity income of £400 million. This amounts to an increase of about £100 million. It is disgraceful and reprehensible. The average bill of between £60 and £80 will be increased by amounts ranging from £15 to £20 and this is no small addition in view of the other increases which the Coalition have introduced through VAT and other measures.

This will also have effects on jobs and the provision of employment. The case of Clondalkin Paper Mills is a classic example. In the course of the debate on the Finance Bill I mentioned that their electricity bill is £1.5 million per annum and the Government have without any justification allowed a 29 per cent increase. It is no wonder that this company are faced with a situation in which they will have to let go 470 people. How could they survive under a Government like this, especially when their energy inputs are so high? They can point to the fact that their competitors in other countries receive assistance from Government rather than penalties. This matter is so serious that there should be a public inquiry into the damaging effects on industry and consequently the provision of jobs. A further increase in unemployment will lead to greater demands on the social welfare services and those who are already at work. I hope the Independent Members are nothing the consequences of the policies adopted by the Coalition.

House mortgage interest rates have been increased from 13.15 per cent under Fianna Fáil to 16.25 per cent under the Coalition. At the same time the 1 per cent interest subsidy given by Fianna Fáil has been removed. Speaking on a radio programme, the Minister concerned said he did not regard this as a particularly serious situation but there was a rumour that the rate might go to 18 per cent and in that case they might have to look at the possibility of re-introducing the subsidy. The matter is already very serious and the Coalition should not have removed the subsidy. The increase from 13.15 per cent to 16.25 per cent has added £40 a month to repayments on a £20,000 loan over 20 years. That is the kind of treatment the householder is getting from this Government.

In one area the Coalition are set for an all-time record during the eighties. Their cold-blooded economic policies and the shift from direct to indirect taxes will create a new and expanded poor. Their hare-brained tax plans will leave the 1.5 million people who cannot benefit from their tax plans much worse off because they will have to pay the indirect taxes and the higher prices. These are the 700,000 social welfare recipients, the 100,000 small farmers, the 350,000 in the lower income group who do not pay tax and the 350,000 who pay already only 25 per cent, giving a total of 1.5 million. These people will constitute a new and expanded poor.

Before the election the Coalition denied all of those suggestions. They produced enormous advertisements in the newspapers to prove that they would not increase prices, that they would control them and that we would have a better society if people voted for the Coalition. These appeared under the caption: Fine Gael nail the big lies. One lie they were nailing — and it was one big lie nailed — was that there would be huge increases on petrol, beer and spirits. Fine Gael gave a commitment that, as far as their economic policies were concerned, they would strictly control the prices of these items. Even at this stage I do not have to comment on the way these prices have gone, together with quite a few others.

As far as their commitment in regard to value-added tax was concerned, they adhered to that by not imposing value-added tax on clothing and footwear. However they imposed it on every other conceivable commodity bought for the household as part of the normal weekly package. They said then that all housewives would not gain from the Fine Gael proposals for women, that their package would benefit nine out of ten. I am sure they would like to erase that one now because it will cause enormous difficulty one way or the other.

Then they contended that with Fine Gael all taxpayers with incomes under £50,000 a year would have more take-home pay. I suppose if one assumes that the money will be taken from their weekly budget instead of their take-home pay that could be true but certainly they will have less money at the end of the week than heretofore. There were a number of other commitments given but those are just some relating to prices. These were the promises this Government made so publicly before coming into office. In office they turned around and reversed their ideas in that respect.

One measure mentioned — which they themselves regarded as a very important election issue — was the question of the £9.60 con trick, or what might be described as robbing Peter to pay Paula, charging Peter the cost of the transaction. It is now admitted, off the record, by both Fine Gael and Labour that the promise of a weekly payment of £9.60 to the wife who is fulltime in the home brought an extra eight seats to the Fine Gael party, thus enabling them to form a Coalition with Labour and others. Naturally, with a short run into an election, there was little time to tease out the details of that programme. Consequently, many people viewed this measure as a family support which would be widely available. Indeed, the promise given in the Gaiety Theatre document is a very interesting one. It said in regard to the direct payment of the tax credit in respect of wives working in the family home, that the full amount would be payable even when the present family income fell below £4,000 per annum, thus aiding low income families not liable to tax at present. That was the commitment given in the Coalition document. That was their firm commitment, as expressed in the document put to the Labour Party delegates and endorsed by them. It presented a proposal under which lower income families would benefit along with widows, old age pensioners, small farmers, the unemployed and the handicapped. That is the way people interpreted that promise. What else could it mean? The only conclusion that could be drawn was that it would mean that widows, old age pensioners, small farmers, the unemployed and the handicapped would also benefit from this proposal, and that this would help to offset, in a major way, the increased indirect taxes for them. It would also help the small farmer to live with the Coalition-led inflation rate in excess of 20 per cent. However, we have seen that the policies adopted inevitably would lead to an increase in inflation, the worst possible medicine for the small farmer as he has no way of recouping this in the market place.

The original Fine Gael manifesto spoke only of £23 million to offset the adverse effects of their package on social welfare beneficiaries. It was estimated that 280,000 wives would not benefit under the tax credit arrangements. However, to pay the £9.60 to them each week would cost £140 million. Hence the lack of credibility on our part of the Gaiety Theatre promise to pay the £9.60 even where the income level was below the tax credit level. We find it very difficult to accept that this would be applied across the board to ease the burden the indirect taxes will create for those on lower incomes. If the scheme is to be based on the tax code then those benefits which are taxable only would be included. These would include old age contributory pensions. Therefore, we could expect the wife of the old age contributory pensioner to receive payment but no other social welfare beneficiaries would receive the £9.60 or, in any event, very few of them.

Reverting to the situation of Peter and Paula, there are 500,000 wives of whom 100,000 are working. Therefore potential claimants of the optional £9.60 per week are, at the maximum, 400,000. How many of these will claim if it is optional? How many will be interested in robbing Peter of £500 or £2,000 tax free allowance for Peter will have his weekly income reduced by £9.60 by virtue of a reduced tax free allowance of £2,000 so that claimants can call to the post office or whereever else is designated to collect the £9.60 a week on an appropriate voucher? The family, as a whole, will be no better off. Therefore it will not help in any way to offset the increased indirect tax burden on them. Of course Peter will have to pay for the administrative cost. If one is to assume that, at a minimum, some 500 staff would be required then one is talking about £4 million per annum for staff alone not taking into account postage or stationery. If one takes account of postage at 22p per week for 52 weeks that amounts to £4.75 million overall. If one includes the cheques and envelopes the total cost for 400,000 per week would exceed £9 million. Those are the kinds of potential administrative costs involved. Therefore, Peter must pay his wife, Paula, £9.60 a week and carry £9 million to administer the scheme for his wife. If, of course, he must pay another man's wife as well then his administrative costs will increase correspondingly. Indeed his personal cost will greatly increase if he has to pay for the Gaiety Theatre promise of £9.60 for all those who would not otherwise qualify.

This whole situation obviously has upset the civil servants involved. Here I quote from an article entitled "Civil Servants Attack Critics" which appeared in The Irish Times of Saturday last. The question raised in this article related to civil servants' efficiency in work and the unproductive nature of some of the work.

Without naming him, the association singled out ... an assertion by the Minister for Trade and Tourism, Mr. Kelly, earlier this week in which he talked about unproductive civil servants passing paper to one another. "Yet it is his Government which insists on hordes of civil servants processing an enormous volume of paperwork just to transfer £9.60 from a working husband to a wife working at home."

The association is particularly upset about this kind of operation which, of course, constitutes merely a circular movement of money from Peter to Paula and will do nothing to offset the burden on those people in the lower and middle income groups suffering so severely from the effects of this Government's policies which involve a major increase in indirect taxes falling very heavily on them.

While Fine Gael pursue relentlessly their coldblooded and inhuman economic policies, the Labour Party keep their heads down in a deafening silence. Robert Louis Stevenson said: "The cruelest lies are often told in silence." The deafening silence of the once proud Labour Party tells far more than any words of mine. They remain silent while the social welfare beneficiaries lose the gains they made under Fianna Fáil. Instead of demanding real increases, they accepted a 3 per cent rise in all rates other than old age pensioners, who got 5 per cent. As a result, the widow gets 85p per week extra for herself and 25p for each child. The old age pensioners living alone had their allowances increased by 10p per week, and the dependant of a blind pensioner gets an extra 5p per week.

As I have said, the living alone allowance for the old age pensioner was increased by 10p per week by this kind and compassionate and sincere Government whose policies we are expected to accept. The old age pensioner living alone is in particularly difficult circumstances. It is because of this that such pensioners are given an additional allowance, small and all as it is, but to offer such an elderly person 10p per week to help to offset the kind of increases in costs that I have mentioned, which the Coalition have directly caused, is an insult. Earlier there was some discussion of the fact that the supplement for the dependants of blind pensioners is 5p per week. This is similarly derisory and insulting, particularly in this International Year of Disabled Persons. When told about it, some children say it would not buy a lollipop or an ice cream a week. That is about the size of these increases. They are derisory and must be seen for what they are, a hypocritical sop to sell the Coalition package to the Labour Party.

The Labour Party remained silent also while education, health and social welfare budgets were drastically cut back. The school age was raised to save money, for that and no other reason. It is only the beginning of the process of severe cutbacks in education. We have seen that despite the lofty sentiments expressed about caring for the mentally handicapped and the aged, projects in these areas have been stopped. At Kilcornan in County Galway a major project for the mentally handicapped, on which building was due to be started, has been stopped, though the contract had been approved and was awaiting signature. Money for the project had been provided this year without a Supplementary Estimate. At Carriglea in Waterford, units comprising 50 beds for mentally handicapped adults lie idle. The project was completed but not allowed to go into use. The units had been built, they were ready. Following studies which had been done in the area of the mentally handicapped, one of the highest priorities is the building of care units for adult people. Here are some fine modern units being left idle for want of a relatively small amount of money in the last two months of this year, with greater money during the full year of 1982.

At Ballymun in Dublin, two crisis intervention units for mentally handicapped children were completed but they, too, are lying idle. At Dundalk a new 112-bed geriatric unit, a day centre for 20 to 25 people and a 40-bed welfare unit for elderly people were due to be begun before the end of the year. The money had been allocated but it has been withdrawn, apparently, and there is some dispute about it.

Thanks to pressure from the Fianna Fáil Opposition, old age pensioners, widows and other long-term beneficiaries will be given a double week at Christmas. The Tánaiste and Labour Party Leader, Deputy O'Leary, was forced belatedly into conceding the much-needed Christmas bonus when he and his colleagues in the Coalition should have been demanding an early announcement of the legislation necessary to implement it.

The Coalition claim that they will advance the incomes of social welfare beneficiaries in real terms, but so far the reality is far from this. The double week for Christmas must now be implemented by legislation in the House so that it can be put into operation during the second week in December. That is a very tight schedule, but because it was introduced last year the system is there and we will give it all our support when it is going through the House.

The free fuel scheme has been increased from £3 to £4. I requested the Minister for Finance to have the amount increased to £5 at least, to keep up with the increased cost of a bag of coal. The price of bottled gas is now £5.94 per cylinder. Last year we not only increased the amount but we extended the scheme, but the Coalition have said they will only look at the possibilities of further extending the scheme sometime in the future.

The increases given by the Coalition from 1 October were derisory. They did not even match the inflation imposed by the Coalition's policies. Unemployment has now reached 129,000 on the register and because of Coalition policies that figure will increase further during the coming winter. These policies are doomed to failure. They will create further greater hardships for those on social welfare benefits and for the middle and lower income groups. They are disastrous for families and will lead to greater unemployment, rising prices and the creation of a new and expanded poor. These policies are disastrous for the majority of employees and small farmers and will deal a cruel blow to old age pensioners, widows, the disabled and other less privileged groups.

It is for these reasons that we condemn the coldblooded economic policies of Government Minister who have asked us to regard these coldblooded policies as the correct thing for these times. That is why we condemn these policies and ask the Members of the House to reject the Government's amendment and to support our motion.

I move amendment No. 1:

1. To delete all words after "That" and substitute:—

"Dáil Éireann expresses its confidence in the policies of the Government, as set out in its Programme, to secure social justice for those who are dependent on social welfare."

The proposals of the Government programme in the social field envisage a radical reform of the social welfare system. This will provide a secure and permanent base on which to deal more effectively and in a more sympathetic and enlightened way with the needs of our society. The proposals contained in the programme provide for action on a number of points. In the first place the Government are committed to indexation of social welfare benefits thus maintaining the real value of existing payments. The Government are, however, very much aware that the present level of these payments is inadequate having regard to the cost of the essentials of life and the legitimate aspirations of a modern society. It is the Government's intention, therefore, to ensure that those dependent on social welfare payments receive a real increase in their incomes. This will be done notwithstanding the very serious economic difficulties which the Government were confronted with on taking up office. As the Taoiseach said at the Kilkenny Conference on Poverty last Sunday there is a temptation to take the view that social progress must await the resumption of significant economic growth and that we cannot afford to tackle the issue of poverty. That temptation will be resisted and it is the Government's firm intention to carry out their social policy commitments in full. One of the major concerns of the Government is to ensure that no part of the burden of the economic measures which are necessary to set the economy right are borne by those who are dependent on social welfare payments and the necessary measures will at all times be taken to ensure that their position is protected.

The provision made for social welfare in the July budget demonstrates the Government's determination to protect the situation of those people who depend on social welfare payments and who are most vulnerable to the effects of economic forces. The reintroduction of an October increase in payments is a measure of our concern that compensation to social welfare recipients, particularly pensioners who are permanently dependent on the system, should be provided more speedily to offset the effects of rising price levels on their standard of living. Increases in indirect taxation announced in the budget were estimated to add 3 per cent to the consumer price index. The improvements provided in rates of social welfare payments therefore protected those in receipt of these payments from the effects of these increases and, in the case of pensioners, afforded an additional real increase in payments. The Government's programme, as Deputies are aware, provided for an increase of 5 per cent in old age pensions, from October. The increases actually provided went beyond this and included, in addition to the 5 per cent increase promised to contributory and non-contributory old age pensioners, a similar increase of 5 per cent in pensions payable to other pensioners who have reached pension age and to all retirement pensioners. Consequently, recipients of widows` pensions, contributory and non-contributory, deserted wife's allowance and invalidity pensions who have reached age 66 also received the 5 per cent increase as well as retirement pensioners under the age of 66.

Furthermore, provision was made for a 3 per cent increase in the weekly rates of social welfare payments to persons under pension age. These included recipients of disability benefit, unemployment benefit and unemployment assistance as well as pensioners under pension age. The previous Government provided increases in social welfare payments from April last which were designed to provide real increases in these payments to cover the year 1981-1982 with no provision for any October increase. This Government are committed to guaranteeing real increases in incomes to social welfare recipients and pensioners and the increases provided from October represent a first step in that direction. As a result of the increases, a single recipient of old age pension and a widow who has reached age 66 previously receiving a non-contributory pension of £26.25 now receive £27.55 while a married couple both previously receiving old age pension now have their pensions increased to £55.10. The rate for a couple receiving old age (contributory) pension was increased from £53.55 to £56.25 where both have reached age 66. A widow under age 66 with three children had her widow's contributory pension increased from £52.90 to £54.50. The Government, as I have said, are committed to guaranteed indexation of social welfare benefits.

This is a minimum requirement and there is a further commitment to raise the value of these payments in real terms. The increases so far given were estimated to cost £38 million in a full year and were the maximum which could be afforded in the difficult economic situation we found ourselves faced with. I would like to emphasise, however, that it is our firm intention to build on this, so that during the Government's term of office very substantial improvements will be made. The question of further increases will, of course, be considered shortly in the context of the forthcoming budget and the House can rest assured that I will be concerned to see that further substantial increases will then be provided to those dependent on social welfare payments.

The provision of a double payment to long-term social welfare beneficiaries this Christmas has, as I announced at the week-end, also been approved by the Government and not in response to any pressure from the Opposition. This was announced as an indication of our commitment to recipients of social welfare benefits to bring some comfort to them over the Christmas period. We have taken this decision notwithstanding the serious situation we find ourselves in. I can assure the Deputy that we will get the legislation through and that the payments will be made. I thank him for the co-operation he has offered us in that regard.

The double payment will be made in the week beginning 7 December 1981 and the cost of the measure is estimated at some £12.5 million. A double payment was made in 1980 under the terms of the second national understanding but on that occasion no October increase in payments had been provided. This is the first occasion ever on which provision has been made for an increase in payments in April, a further increase in October and on top of that a double payment at Christmas. A permanent increase in rates of payment is obviously more valuable to recipients in the long run and my main effort will be concentrated on achieving real increases in the actual level of social welfare payments. I am happy, however, that apart from the October increase already referred to and although the commitment made in the second national understanding did not extend beyond 1980, the Government have now agreed to a double payment on this occasion. This measure will, I have no doubt, be widely welcomed and will be of considerable assistance to those involved in meeting the additional expenses arising at Christmas time. The number who will benefit from the provision is estimated to be 376,000 with 120,000 dependants and the provision will mean, for example, that a single old age non-contributory pensioner will receive £55.10 while a married couple will receive £110.20 in that week. A widow with three children on contributory widow's pension will receive £109.

I would also like to mention the increase from October in the weekly fuel voucher under the national and urban fuel schemes from £3 to £4 a week. When the national fuel scheme was introduced on 1 October 1980 the amount of the weekly voucher was £2. The voucher was increased from £2 to £3 by the previous Government for the final 13 weeks of the 1980-81 season and it was specified then that the increased amount would also apply for the 1981-82 season. While the increase to £4 represents a considerable advance on the position I regard it as in effect an interim measure pending a complete review of home heating provisions as a whole and the introduction, as promised in the Government's Programme of "realistic heating provisions for the elderly". Adequate heating is critical to the health and well-being of the elderly in our society and I will ensure that the review of the present provisions will be completed as quickly as possible so that I can bring forward proposals for realistic provisions in this area.

Another area in relation to which I will bring forward proposals at an early date is the free telephone rental scheme. It is a requirement of the scheme that the recipient must be living alone or with one or more other persons who are so permanently incapacitated as to require constant care and attention. The Government's programme promises an extension of the scheme to cover elderly couples living together and I am having proposals drawn up for the implementation of this commitment.

The measures I have referred to which have been taken by the Government in the brief period since they assumed office have illustrated our commitment to protect the position of social welfare recipients. In the longer term the Government programme envisages major developments with the aim of bringing about a comprehensive, efficient and humane system of social welfare in the coming years. Obviously, it will not be possible to bring these changes into effect at once but I can assure the House that I am pressing ahead with my examination of all aspects of the system. The developments so far implemented may be seen as the first instalment of what will be a continuous process of improvement over the coming years.

The most vital matter which needs to be tackled is the problem of poverty in Irish society and I was happy to be able to announce details last week-end of my plans for a new poverty agency to tackle this problem. The Government programme included a commitment to draw up and implement an anti-poverty plan within the context of national economic and social planning, to re-establish the structure of the combat poverty organisation which had been discontinued under the previous Government and to set up a special unit in my Department to co-ordinate the work of the programme.

The new agency will be set up on a statutory basis and this I feel will give it a status and a framework of permanency which will enable it to function effectively. Among the tasks of the agency will be to examine the causes and extent of poverty, to appraise existing policies and programmes and to suggest new ones, and very importantly to engage in public education as to the nature and extent of poverty. The agency will make regular reports and these will be published. In conjunction with the new agency I am setting up a special anti-poverty unit in my Department to carry out the necessary liaison between the Department and the agency and to ensure that the proposals put forward by the agency have a direct input into the policy-making process. The Government are committed to a serious approach to the problem of poverty and the prompt establishment of the new agency is an earnest of our commitment.

The work of combating poverty must result in the long term in an effective redistribution of income and wealth in our society. In the shorter term there are a number of specific improvements in the social welfare system which can make a significant contribution in this area and to which the Government are committed in their programme. The first of these which I would like to mention is the reform of the supplementary welfare allowances scheme to meet its original objectives. This scheme is of immense importance in that it acts in many cases as a `fire brigade' service. The scheme has been the subject of some criticism, as is probably inevitable in a scheme of this nature. It is my intention that the scheme be critically reviewed and the necessary measures taken to ensure that needs are met speedily and in a flexible and humane manner.

Apart from the supplementary welfare allowances scheme there are a large number of social assistance schemes operated by the Departments of Social Welfare and Health catering for many different categories of need and subject to varying conditions and different means tests. It is clear that a much greater degree of co-ordination than exists at present can be achieved in this area and there is, in my view, an obvious need for more rationalisation. When my examination of this whole question has been completed I will be bringing proposals to the Government. It may be that through a reformed supplementary welfare allowance scheme a degree of co-ordination of social assistance provisions for different categories of persons can be achieved.

To some extent, of course, progress in this area is dependent on extending the scope of the present social insurance system which provides cash benefits in return for payment of contributions. In the social welfare field while all employees have access to the social insurance system which provides benefits as of right in return for contributions and without the requirement of a means test, the self-employed are not entitled to social insurance services. Access for the self-employed to social insurance services exists in one form or another in all other member states of the EEC and its absence in this country is particularly noticeable in view of the proportionately very large numbers of self-employed that we have. It is a matter of particular concern that self-employed persons, who are subject to the contingencies of old age et cetera in the same way as employees, are unable to ensure a pension through payment of social insurance contributions and must rely on the various means tested services and whatever private arrangements they may make. The sharing of responsibility which a social insurance system would involve would ensure a more adequate level of financial resources with which to meet the cost of protective provisions. I am aware of course of the tradition of independence which is a feature of self-employment but I am confident that a social insurance scheme applicable to the self-employed can be devised which will meet the needs of this sector and which will command general acceptance.

I see the pensions area as being of most importance in relation to the self-employed and the proposals which I will be bringing forward in relation to a national pension plan will be designed to include provision for the self-employed. Sickness is another area which can have a major impact on self-employed people, particularly those whose business depends on their personal involvement on a continuing basis and I am examining the question of making suitable provisions also in this area. The extension of social insurance to the self-employed would of course, in time, considerably reduce the scope of the existing social assistance schemes and would facilitate the achievement of greater rationalisation of social assistance services to which I have referred.

The pensions area is one in which I am personally very interested. The Government are committed in their programme to reducing the qualifying age for pension from 66 to 65 within their term of office. That commitment will be met. Apart from this however I am concerned about the gaps and the inequalities which are a feature of pensions provisions generally. Some employees on retirement enjoy a level of income which bears a fairly close relationship to their income while employed. This is achieved through a combination of flat-rate social insurance pension and an occupational pension based on earnings. A very large number of employees, however, are not members of an occupational pension scheme and are entirely dependent on the social insurance pension. For many of them the onset of old age threatens the living standards which have been built up over the years. Those who become widowed or permanently incapable of work also face the possibility of a significant fall in their income.

In my view the absence of any link between social insurance pensions and earnings, as exists in the case of short-term benefits through the pay-related benefit scheme, is a major gap in our social welfare system. The Government are committed to bring to a conclusion the discussions on a national income-related pension scheme, discussions which were initiated by the last Coalition Government through the publication of a Green Paper in 1976, and to introduce legislation in the course of their term of office to establish a national pension scheme to guarantee all citizens an equitable share of national resources on retirement or in widowhood or invalidity. It is inequitable that some categories of workers enjoy high levels of pension while other categories have access only to social welfare pensions and I am anxious, therefore, to see that all workers have access to a pension scheme which will enable them to have in retirement a reasonable relationship with their previously established standard of living. Another major concern is to ensure that pensions once awarded maintain their real value as the years of retirement progress. It is also necessary to ensure that pension rights once earned are not lost, for example when a person changes his job as can happen at present. That is something workers feel very strongly about.

In the time since I took office as Minister for Social Welfare I have been examining the various views put forward in response to the 1976 Green Paper and I hope to finalise my own proposals in this area in the near future. I am aware that the previous Government undertook in the second national understanding to prepare a White Paper in this area and this White Paper was expected to be published in the first quarter of 1981, prior to the election. In the event, however, the White Paper was not published before the change of Government. While I am anxious that proposals should be put forward without further undue delay, there are a number of ideas which I am anxious should feature in a new scheme and these will necessarily involve changes in what has already been prepared. I expect however to complete my consideration of the pension scheme in the near future and I will then be putting proposals for urgent action to the Government.

The introduction of a national pension plan could go a long way to alleviating the problem of inadequate incomes among pensioners. Another problem area which must be tackled is the area of support for poor families and this is also under examination at present. Under the terms of the second national understanding the previous Government agreed to an examination of this whole area, taking account of reports by the National Economic and Social Council which were relevant. The present Government are keenly aware of the inadequacy of existing support for families and of the need to take immediate action in this area.

Rather than await the results of the examination referred to, therefore, the decision was taken, and is included in the Government's programme, to abolish the present tax free allowance for dependent children — which, by their very nature, are of greatest benefit to those paying tax at higher rates and of no benefit at all to those whose earnings are so low as to exclude them from the tax system. The allowances are to be replaced by an augmented child benefit payable to all mothers of dependent children of £3 a week, and £4 a week for the sixth and subsequent children. For comparison purposes these rates, expressed on a monthly basis, are approximately £13 for the first five children and over £17 for subsequent children, as compared with current monthly rates of children's allowances of £6 for the first child and £9 for each additional child. The child benefit proposals therefore represent a significant improvement on existing levels of children's allowances and will result in a transfer of income from higher income taxpayers to low income taxpayers and to those below the tax threshold as recommended by the National Economic and Social Council and meets the point they make in that regard.

The introduction of these measures will bring about an immediate and significant increase in the income of poorer families with large numbers of children whose position has seriously deteriorated in recent years. The whole area of family support, including the payments for children under the various social insurance and assistance schemes, is one in which further research is needed. The provision of a reasonable level of support to families in need, in particular those with large numbers of children and one parent families, many of whom are still struggling on barely adequate incomes, must be a major priority and I would see the new poverty agency as having a major contribution to make in this area.

The major developments in social welfare which are envisaged in the Government's programme will go a considerable way towards improving the situation of the needy in our society and will give this country a social security system which can be favourably compared with what is available in other western European countries. It is not sufficient, however, just to have a system which is good on paper. It is also necessary that the administration of the system should be as streamlined and efficient as possible. Administering social welfare scheme is one of the biggest operations in the country and involves the keeping of very extensive data files and the continuous processing of some of the largest volumes of routine transactions in the country. Prompt and efficient processing of claims under the various schemes depends on the assembly, maintenance, retrieval and communication of information from one office to another, from one section to another and between sections and members of the public, through the post, over the telephone and across the counter. The administrative tasks increase with the regular extensions and changes in existing schemes and the introduction of new ones.

The Department must make appropriate use of the best modern data processing and communications technologies to aid them in maintaining and improving their services to the public and in their day-to-day administration, policy making and planning. While the system has adapted reasonably well over the years to the demands made upon it, strains have become apparent in recent years and it is vital that the system be made as flexible and adaptable as possible, particularly in the light of the further changes which will be introduced into the system in the future. I am referring to changes and improvements in computerisation and telecommunication development plans for the coming years.

I hope that what I have said will have made clear to the House that the Government's commitment to social progress is a positive one and involves firm commitments in various specific areas of policy to be achieved during the Government's term of office. The commitments on social welfare in the Government programme are being urgently pressed ahead and I ask the House to indicate its support for this most important work by supporting my amendment to the motion.

Coalition Governments have always been associated with hardship, misery and unemployment. This Government is the worst yet. After only six months in office they have added 5 per cent to the cost of living. I feel sorry for the Minister for Social Welfare who must be embarrassed when she has to announce increases to social welfare recipients. I have the list from which she was quoting and it is sad and disturbing to see amounts of 5 pence, 15 pence, 20 pence and 25 pence being granted. How can any Government dole out that sort of money to people in the lower income group who are so badly hit by the increases and the economic policies of the Government?

Obviously the Minister is living on promises of finance for her Department. Promises, promises, promises. She has not got anything and is not going to get anything. I am sure she is doing her best but she has not made any definite commitment except for a 3 per cent and a 5 per cent increase. The increases announced in the budget have already eroded those increases. The Minister also talked about index linked social welfare commitments. Were the 3 per cent and the 5 per cent index linked? How can that cover the increased cost of items which Deputy Woods spoke about? There has been an increase of £1.60 in the price of bottled gas and £1.50 on a bag of coal. Those prices are not index linked. What about all the other items which have increased in price? ESB charges have soared and food also has gone up in price. How can any Government say they are index linking price increases when 3 per cent or 5 per cent would not nearly cover that type of increase?

Social welfare recipients are lucky that Fianna Fáil brought in the double week last year because if we had not done so they would not be getting it this year. They were shamed into granting it this year also. I know the Taoiseach made lots of mistakes when he named his Cabinet but he named one very well — Minister for Poverty. The Coalition Government are going to need a poverty agency in the coming months and, after the next budget, they will need a large Department to look after poverty. Not only will the less well off people be impoverished, the people in the middle income group who were doing reasonably well are going to be poverty stricken also under the policies of the present Government.

Debate adjourned.
The Dáil adjourned at 8.30 p.m. until 10.30 a.m. on Wednesday, 11 November 1981.
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