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Dáil Éireann díospóireacht -
Tuesday, 22 Feb 1983

Vol. 340 No. 4

Financial Resolutions, 1983. - Financial Resolution No. 14: General (Resumed).

Debate resumed on the following motion:
That it is expedient to amend the law relating to customs and inland revenue (including excise) and to make further provision in connection with finance.
—(Minister for Finance).

The Government have told us that because we have overspent we will have to tighten our belts, take cuts in services and pay more. When I spoke on this debate on the last occasion I asked the question who had overspent? I said it was not those who are now being asked to pay higher taxes and who are being asked to take cuts in the educational and health services. I said it was those who had control of the financial and capital institutions who had overspent, that it was they who had borrowed from banks and who had contributed to the erosion of our financial stability in the past few years. Those were the people who had bought villas in Spain, who had liquidated companies and established other companies and who refused to pay over the contributions they deducted from their workers. The ordinary PAYE worker is now being asked to bear the burden but he did not cause the financial chaos in the first place. This budget is imposing higher taxes on people who will have to take cuts in services for which they have already paid. The social welfare benefits will be reduced considerably and people will have lower incomes generally because of higher prices.

The budget did not take into account in any way the people who are really hit by the financial crisis facing us. It did not take into account the class structures in society. Budgets never take into account whether there is any difference in the class structures in society. I have heard Ministers of various governments frequently make the point that there are no class differences here. They say we are all the same and that we do not divide on class lines. This is the type of propaganda that is spread abroad. A former Minister for Industry made the point some months ago that the IDA are very proud to go to America and elsewhere and to say that when we decide on our tax structure in any year the laws will remain the same irrespective of what government are in power. The IDA can tell people abroad that we do not change our laws because of a change of government because there are no class differences in Ireland. This is not the case in England: if a Labour Government come to power after a Tory Government they change the law. We are able to tell people abroad our political structures are such that there will be no change in the law irrespective of the government in power. Unfortunately this has been the case since the foundation of the State. One Government after another have retained the same type of taxation and financial structures; they have paid out the same hand-outs to the same people and have taken money from the same people. Thus, year after year the differences grow between those who have and those who have not. The differences between the owners of property and those who have no property are getting wider with each year and this budget has contributed greatly to widening that gap.

Many people wonder why there has been such an increase in crime and vandalism, why there has been such a rejection of society by young people in the past eight or ten years. Anyone who studies the class structure of our society can see the real deprivation in some areas, can see the differences in the incomes of people and the environment in which they live. They can see the differences in housing, in schools and in health services. Any sociologist who sees such extraordinary differences in society will understand what has happened to young people in the deprived class. They know they will not get the same education as people of another class a few miles down the road. They know they will not get the same opportunities and will always be dependent on welfare benefits or, at best, on low paid jobs. These young people see a great parade of wealth — in housing, cars, hotels, and clubs to which others may go. They can see that some are destined to have and others are destined not to have — the men of no property, of whom Tone spoke.

When they see a Government putting through a budget like this they do not expect any better. This is what they expect a government and those in authority to do to them. They know that the ones in authority are the men of property. The men of property are the men who control government, who control and make the decisions in regard to taxes and the way the economy is run and, therefore, they expect governments to do what this Government did. This is why certain other people have not respect for property. Why should they have respect for property? They are never destined to have any of it themselves. Property is a thing which other people have. They have no respect for authority. Authority is what creates this system. Therefore, there is little use in crying about vandalism, crime and the young generation when we create the type of society which these young people naturally reject.

This budget of this Government was expected to be bad but many people thought that it would show some beginning of a change in the taxation structure. All right, maybe everyone would have to pay more this time. Things were bad so everyone would have to pay more, but most people expected that this would go right across the board. Therefore, probably the worst feature of the budget, bad as were the increase in PAYE, the extra one per cent income levy and so on, was the lack of capital taxes. A survey done eight or nine years ago revealed that 5 per cent of the people owned 75 per cent of the wealth and probably if a survey were done today similar to that done by Professor Lyons at that time we would find that fewer than 5 per cent own the 75 per cent of the wealth. The 5 per cent are those who get away untaxed. This budget made no effort to include them within the net. In fact, their taxes have been considerably reduced since 1974. Since death duties and estate duties were abolished then, the real taxes on wealth and capital have fallen year by year so that these people pay less duty than they did in 1974 in real terms. This budget has even a £10 million subsidy to private landlords but the PAYE taxpayer who is the tenant of these properties and who is paying these landlords £20, £30 and £40 per week will now have to pay them also, through taxation, an extra £10 million. This attitude, this type of thinking is unbelievable for the ordinary working-class person who cannot conceive how a government could proceed in that manner unless they are being dictated to by the landlords, the property owners, the farmers, the people who are not taxed, unless they are being dictated to by the five per cent who own 75 per cent of the wealth. That is how it is perceived by the majority of the people.

Regarding the manner in which tax evasion is dealth with in the budget. I will read one sentence of the Minister's budgetary statement. He sounded as if he was going to deal with tax evasion and then he said, and I quote:

The strengthening of legal powers for dealing with evasion should certainly yield results but this approach must be balanced against the necessity to protect the interests and privacy of the honest taxpayer.

That sounds great but at the same time there is no such constraint on the Government to protect the interests and privacy of the honest social welfare claimant. There is no such protection for people on social welfare. What happens to them is they are simply cut off social welfare benefits until they prove that they are entitled to them. The unemployed are told,"You are not seeking work, or you are not available for work. Therefore no money is coming to you from next Tuesday". The unemployed must appeal that decision and that will take at least two or three weeks. They go before an anonymous tribunal, queue up terrified and scared coming before three people who do not identify themselves, who question them as to where they went looking for work, question them in detail about what they are doing and where they are going, ask the women in particular how many children they have, and say, "Who is looking after them at home; how are you available for work if you have three children at home?" They are questioned, harried and harassed in an effort to prevent them getting social welfare benefits to which they are entitled and for which they have to go through a long procedure of appeals. In some cases they themselves even have to go eventually to the Minister before they can get the benefits to which they are entitled. Many of them give up the effort and never get the benefits to which they are entitled and they live on assistance. There is no protection for them as there is for the so-called interests and privacy of the honest taxpayer.

Regarding those who are evading their taxes and probably also availing of various subsidies, grants and so on to which they are not entitled, I received a letter only yesterday in which a worker sets out what he thinks of the budget and the way he is treated as compared with the way a farmer is treated. He says that the budget has come and still the farmers are getting VIP treatment. The means test limit for medical cards is £55 — I understand that it is £53.60. A farmer who is in receipt of the non-contributory old age pension, who gets regular creamery or mart cheques and has let his farm, is well above this figure and can still get the medical card. If he got his pension a few years ago there has never been a check-up since.

The majority of wealthy farmers move cash around to a number of banks in order to qualify for a pension and they are now to get an increase in the pension. They have never been asked to pay tax. The majority of farmers have refused to pay their contribution towards the health scheme since it started some years ago and are getting away with that. They owe well over £8 million in contributions to the health services but there is no pressure on them to pay.

Some day the Government may bring in a Bill to enable refunds to be made to farmers who have paid health contributions. We had the case of a legitimate tax, the resource tax, being levied on farmers. Farmers refused to pay and instead of being put in jail a Bill was passed last year to make refunds to the small number of farmers who paid £700,000 in resource tax. That was the most extraordinary tax precedent in the history of the State: a tax was levied, people refused to pay, the tax was abolished and those who had paid were refunded.

Farmers used the Constitution, as many property owners are doing at present, to evade their lawful payments. By doing so they have got out of paying rates. It would be interesting if a PAYE worker took a case to the court on the basis that the only property he owns is his week's wages. Under the Constitution and his right to private property he could well have a case against the State that it has no right to deduct that property from him before he gets it into his pocket. If such a case was taken and succeeded the State would grind to a halt. It would collapse completely without the PAYE worker. Perhaps it is as well that no PAYE worker has as yet attempted to bring such a case as property owners are doing at present and as landlords did successfully proving that the State should not have the right to restrict them in their use of private property. The State now pays a £10 million subsidy from the Exchequer to them. This is taxpayers' money.

I do not say there is no room for cutbacks in Government spending. There is tremendous waste in the health services. However, the cutbacks are made in the wrong areas and the wrong people are hit. There is no cutback on payments to doctors or pharmacists many of whom get £40,000 to £50,000 a year from the taxpayer as well as having their own private practices. We do not know how much they earn from that because many of them just put their fees in a drawer and do not give receipts. They simply make a declaration to the Revenue Commissioners and there is no way of knowing just how much they earn. They are paid on a fee for item basis which means that when somebody goes to a doctor he is charged say £7 and if he is given a prescription he goes to a chemist. The tablets he receives may last only a week and if he needs more he has to go back to the doctor who will write him another prescription, charge him another £7 and so it goes on. The person may pay the chemist £10 or £15 each time. There are no cutbacks made here because the people who would be hurt would scream and fight back. However, the elderly man or woman who has spent 60 years paying tax will be told: "You are not entitled to such-and-such a benefit or such-and-such a service, go home".

There is no economic plan on which the budget is based. There is no hope for the future and no indication that the Government have any purpose in balancing the books or making ends meet. If they have no purpose there is no point in doing it. They must have a plan for employment. What precisely do they intend doing with the money in the Exchequer if they succeed in balancing the books and everyone is on his uppers? There is no indication that it will do anything for us. It will lead to more unemployment but there is nothing to say that we will be better off in the future or in a position to run our financial affairs more efficiently.

Despite increases in taxes and cutbacks in expenditure the more job losses there are, the deeper the Exchequer will be in trouble. The CII put the blame on the public sector and say that not only pay in the public sector must be cut back but also jobs. They make such comments as "the productive sector of the economy"— that is the private sector — and "the public sector is the unproductive sector". These pharses are meaningless because more than 50 per cent of the private sector is totally unproductive and a large slice of the public sector is very productive. Our biggest manufacturing industry is the ESB. They manufacture electricity and could export it if they were able to maintain the link with the North which was broken a number of years ago. It is not regarded as the largest manufacturing productive industry by the CII or anyone else. Bord na Móna is another productive industry as is the Sugar Company.

Within the civil service the Department of Fisheries and Forestry is a productive Department. They produce timber. It is interesting to look at that Department and see where savings could be made but are not and what actually happens to this productive natural resource, timber. When cutbacks were introduced those who administered them were working in the administration area. During the last few years they have cut back on the number of the foresters and outdoor staff they employ. They have been cut back by up to 50 per cent but at the same time the number of administrative staff have increased by one-third. Obviously there is room for saving and cutbacks but it is not in the forests that the cutbacks should be made. These forests have been built up over the past 60 years by our fathers, grandfathers and grandmothers paying their taxes, knowing they would not get a penny out of them but thinking their children or their grandchildren in the seventies and eighties would make a fortune when those great forests were mature. Those forests are maturing so rapidly that in 1990 the output from our forests will be double what they are this year. We have no capacity whatsoever for using the timber from our forests. There are hundreds of small timber contractors around the country. They can buy the timber in the forests for £1 a ton. They cut down those mature trees, trim them and take them to Wexford or Waterford where they export the raw timber. It will have cost them about £12 a ton by the time they get it to the port. That is what is happening our timber today.

Waterford Chipboard closed down and Scariff Chipboard, a private company, are kept going by the taxpayer. The Clondalkin pulp mill closed down three years ago and the paper mill closed down last December. This company have been successfully taken over by the State. Private enterprise has collapsed so far as forestry is concerned, from the beginning right up to paper making. Private enterprise is given the timber almost free, but it cannot be competitive with foreign markets. Timber is produced here twice as fast as it is in Norway and Sweden. Maturity comes in 40 to 50 years while it is 80 to 90 years in Norway and Sweden. Private enterprise is a failure and only lives off the taxpayer. In 1981 the private sector cost the Exchequer in subsidies, tax incentives, direct State aids and services administered by various public companies a total of £2,550 million. The figures which make up that are: tax incentives £245 million, Exchequer aid to farming £230 million, Industrial Development Authority's aid to private industry £203 million, Shannon Free Airport Development Company £21 million, Údarás na Gaeltachta £30 million, Development Fund £30 million, Córas Tráchtála £10 million, AnCO £38 million. State expenditure on the construction carried out by the private section £1,350 million. The private sector, not the public sector, has failed.

The Government have not given any indication what policy they will pursue in the future. They have not given any indication if they will accept the Telesis consultants report on the IDA and industrial development. They have not told us if they will use our national resources to create jobs and exports. We have not been told if they will continue to allow almost three million acres of our agricultural land almost to lie idle, as Dr. Tom Walsh of the Agricultural Institute pointed out about three years ago. We have not been told if they will change the structures of farming or if they have any policy on farming.

When did the Government last have an agricultural policy? The last agricultural policy I recall, put forward by the Department of Agriculture was the infamous dual-purpose cow, the greatest disaster of all time in Irish agriculture. Now the Government are simply administering the EEC agricultural policy. There is no policy for Irish agriculture. This is our greatest industry, the backbone of the country and it should be the basis for a great food processing industry and should provide at least 60,000 to 100,000 jobs. We still allow farmers to decide if they will use their land. It is not up to them. It is our land and belongs as much to the worker in Ballyfermot as to the worker on the land. Farmers cannot do what they like with the land. All of the people fought for the land. The land must be used for the benefit of all the people. Unless the Government act in that fashion agriculture will never be of benefit to the country.

Have the Government any plan for our forestries? It would be a simple matter to take forestry out of the hands of the civil service and establish a dynamic company similar to Bord na Móna to deal with our forests and our timber, to set up drying plants, of which we have hardly any, and bring order into the market. At the moment a contractor living in Cork will see a contract in the paper for a forest in Wicklow. He will cut his timber bring it down to Cork. The following week a contractor in Wicklow will see a contract in Cork. He will go down to Cork, cut his timber and bring it back to Wicklow. Timber contractors are passing each other on the road all over the country. Will anybody bring order into that and use that great natural resource?

Will anybody attempt to use the marvellous natural resources of the sea? A large number of jobs could be created there. Almost the whole of Iceland depend on one fish, the cod, between the catching of the cod, its processing and sale. Iceland has a higher standard of living than we have, and indeed many European countries have. We have not anything from the sea.

Will anybody make use of our mineral wealth, where thousands of tons are poured out in the raw state and not even one job created from it?

The workers from whom such enormous sums are being taken as a result of this budget, wish to know what the Government are planning to do with the money. The workers are anxious to know whether their money will be given away to those same fly-by-nights who have been robbing us for years and who have put us in the mess we are in. We should like to know also if the banks will be allowed to continue lending £30 million to people like the Gallaghers for the purpose of allowing them engage in property deals. One need go no futher away than Leeson Street to see houses that were listed for preservation now in rubble. What remains is a big derelict site. Another omission in this budget is the failure to impose a tax in respect of derelict sites. Are the banks to be allowed give money to property speculators instead of lending for investment in productive industrial purposes? What I am asking is whether the Government intend taking control of the lending policy of the banks and also of their interest rates. This must be done if the Government are to have any control of the economy. But none of the Government's predecessors had control of the economy either. Instead, this control was vested in a handful of industrialists, those who controlled the banks. They are the people who decide how the accumulated wealth created by workers and farmers is reinvested.

This budget represents the thinking of Thatcher and Reagan in regard to cutting back on medical, social welfare and education services while at the same time increasing the tax burden on those people who will be hit most by these cuts. This sort of policy will lead to even greater chaos than has been experienced in Britain, because, unlike Britain, we do not have North Sea Oil to support us. Mrs. Thatcher's policy of creating more unemployment so that the books might be balanced is bringing down increasingly the British economy.

The policy put forward in our document of November last was designed to balance the books in the reverse order, that is, instead of cutting back our spending, we increase our output, expand our economy and increase our earnings. This could be done by way of a 5 per cent annual increase in output. Any Government having the interest of the country at heart should be putting forward a plan on the lines envisaged by us in our document. This would still enable them to balance their books at the end of the day.

I have listened carefully to Deputy Mac Giolla just as I listened also the speech of the Leader of the Opposition on the budget. At least there is one point on which I agree with Deputy Mac Giolla and that is the preparedness of Deputy Haughey in his approach to the budget. It was interesting, if not laughable, to see the Deputy read from prepared notes and to use such phrases as, "as cold as a computer printout" and, "a bookeeper's budget without any sign of humanity or compassion." No doubt we would have had these phrases regardless of what the budget had contained. In fairness to Deputy Mac Giolla he spoke off the cuff and that is difficult in replying to a statement as comprehensive as a Budget Statement.

In the meantime Deputy Haughey has tried to convince us that he is the champion of the poor and of the oppressed as if his wish is to add this title to his title of patron of the arts in which respect he is a champion and deserving of admiration. Now we have Deputy Mac Giolla putting himself forward as the champion of the poor and the oppressed. He has said that the £2,500,000 which farmers will be asked to pay in tax this year is very nominal. He went on to say that the £25 million expected to be raised by way of wealth tax is only chicken feed and would not do much more than provide children with sweets. I expect we will be able to find some better use for this money.

I represent the constituency that is represented also by Deputy Mac Giolla but there are times when I wonder whether we represent the same people. He seems to be of the opinion that he is entitled to the support of the PAYE workers as well as of all other workers. There are about 1,250,000 workers in the State of whom about 800,000 are PAYE workers. To put The Workers' Party into perspective, they gained two seats in the election having secured perhaps 14,000 first preference votes between both of them. Is it not clear, therefore, that the bulk of the workers are represented here by the rising Fine Gael Party as well as by the rising Labour Party and the declining Fianna Fáil Party?

The Deputy cannot represent the interest of the workers.

Not only do I represent the same constituency as Deputy Mac Giolla represents but I come from that constituency. I am one of the workers but I succeeded in breaking out of the mould which I agree with Deputy Mac Giolla exists. In addition, I am one of the 2 per cent of working class people who succeeded in going to university and to being able to choose their own career but I realise how difficult it is to break out of that mould. I accept that but I would not find my salvation in The Workers' Party or the policies you represent.

Deputy, your remarks through the Chair.

I would like to make a few points in this area because it is one I know something about. Deputy Mac Giolla when criticising this budget said that the PAYE worker has to pay for everything. Who does he mean? He is talking about a minimum of 800,000 people. Of the people who run businesses, practically 100 per cent are registered for PAYE. We are all workers. What he is really talking about is the community who have to pay to put right the mistakes made over the past five years. I found very little constructive criticism in his speech. I have many criticisms of this budget which I hope to have aired and acted upon by my party.

In my view The Workers' Party should change their name to The Knockers' Party because that is all they do. They are becoming a party of no-hopers. As a person in Deputy Mac Giolla's constituency I would not like what his party have to offer——

Will the Deputy stay with the budget rather than his constituency?

I am referring to the comments made by Deputy Mac Giolla on the budget and he, in turn, referred to previous speakers. Not being the leader of a party I am at a disadvantage because I cannot reply to every debate. If I, like Deputy Mac Giolla, was leader of a party of two I would be able to reply to every debate, as does the Taoiseach and Deputy Haughey, Leader of the Opposition.

Sour grapes.

It is not sour grapes. I can look after myself. As a member of the community The Workers' Party have very little to offer me. What we all want, especially the young people, is educational and career opportunities. Our young people are energetic and strong. I heard the Leader of the Opposition say many times that our youth were our biggest asset. That was said in the seventies and then ignored. We have not treated our youth as an asset because we did not plan and provide for them. We did nothing about them. Throughout the seventies this problem escalated and our young people had very little experience in dealing with people in authority and could not speak for themselves. In that respect we failed them because we did not listen to them, consult with them, plan for them and find out what the future would hold for them. Our educational institutions did not prepare them to get jobs. Recently we made a start in this area by expanding our newer academic institutions, such as NIHE, Limerick and Dublin, where high technology and computer and practical courses are in progress. This move gives hope to the young.

Deputy Mac Giolla twice in the last week mentioned people with £50,000 cars. How many £50,000 cars does he see driving around my constituency? How many people have villas in Spain? How much longer will people fall for this type of rhetoric? The Workers' Party give the impression that they are the only people who represent the working class. Are we not all working class? Our roots are working class and it is not long since we emerged from them. Our people have great ability and a desire to succeed and they can do this if they are shown the way. In this respect we have failed them.

As I mentioned earlier, I broke out of that mould but it was not an easy thing to do. If fewer than 2 per cent of the working classes can get third level education and one in two of the professional classes can get a third level education, there is something radically wrong. Those were the statistics when I was in university ten years ago. I do not know what they are now, but if they are better, they are probably not much better. We have done little about that.

The Deputy does not represent the workers.

Deputy Mac Giolla mentioned people with property. Does he think the PAYE worker does not own property? Does he not own his own house? I do not want charity from The Workers' Party, nor do I want your pity and sympathy. I do not want you to provide me with a new pair of overalls if I stay at my work-place and behave myself. I want an opportunity to carve out my own career and make my own way forward. I do not want you telling me if I am a good boy and do what I am told we will all be equal because that would mean people would no longer use their initiative. I do not want that to happen and neither do the people. They want to make their own way. In my view you will have to change your policies. I will try to get it across to the people in my constituency that they are being codded by your policies.

The Deputy is talking about the Fine Gael budget.

Deputy Skelly, in your remarks refer through the Chair rather than "you". This is becoming an issue between you and Deputy De Rossa. Please use the third person.

Deputy Haughey and Deputy Mac Giolla bid for the title of the champion of the poor and oppressed in their contributions to this budget debate, but I do not think the people will buy that. Big, bad Fine Gael and Labour are trying in this budget, without gimmicks, to tackle the problems honestly.

Not too many others would agree with Deputy Skelly.

On one of the rare occasions I get to watch television I noticed in Frank Hall's programme last night that in one of the sketches they were talking about the budget hitting everyone — the rich, the middle class and the poor — and that is a fair summary of what has been done.

The last speaker mentioned people going to the labour exchanges to fill in forms and then experiencing difficulties in getting their social welfare payments. Unfortunately we spend a great deal of our time trying to straighten out this situation — and we have no objections to doing it — but it must be accepted that there has to be order in society. Deputy Mac Giolla must realise that there has to be a certain amount of, but not too much, bureaucracy. People have to abide by certain rules and regulations, otherwise there would be chaos. Should the Minister dispense with any form-filling, much as I abhor that? If the private sector were dispensed with altogether, have we a sufficient work ethic to take its place? I do not believe so — contrary to the position in France, for example.

There has been much criticism of some of our semi-State bodies regarding their efficiency and commitment to work. I do not wish to add to this criticism, but it is fairly obvious that we lack the discipline of getting up at 7 a.m. and doing a hard day's work. Socialism is not the answer to our problem. Private enterprise has not been a failure or a fraud, as Deputy Mac Giolla suggests it has.

The figures prove that it has been.

It is consistent with Fine Gael philosophy that the party should encourage self-help and make people less dependent on the State for all their needs. This basic tenet should underlie the Government's approach to cuts in administration and to the imposition of taxation. Rather than cut services, as in the case of educational services, overhead expenses should be reduced. It is accepted here, as in many other states, that a person becoming a civil servant need only turn up for the rest of his or her life and have permanent, pensionable employment until the age of 65. Civil servants should not be immune from redundancy, which would be much preferable to service cuts.

The farm modernisation scheme is being scrapped, although there is no mention of reducing the numbers employed in the Department of Agriculture. It is not clear whether such an approach has been considered, but if not, why not? Employment in the civil service has become far too cosy because of the lack of responsibility and of the very substantial increases in salary in the seventies. It is fair to say that these people do not face the same hazards as in the private sector. The lack of accountability means that the taxpayers' money is wasted year in, year out because nobody in the Department is held responsible — either the Minister or the civil servants involved.

In considering cuts in the various areas, the interested parties should first be consulted as to how the cuts should be implemented with the least unfavourable impact. Could the teachers' unions have been asked to pinpoint wastage in the day-to-day running of the education system? Likewise with agriculture, many of whose services, free heretofore, it is proposed to cut. The people concerned should have been asked for their opinions and proposals on providing the necessary services. It is ridiculous that horticultural advisers, free of charge, visit people and suggest how they should maintain their gardens. This also applies to the farm home advisory service.

The small business sector is to a large extent overlooked, although there has been some effort to consider it in the recent past. Certainly in the late sixties and early seventies this sector was overlooked. Its position at present is hazardous, because it is based on selling into the home market. It is the backbone of our economy and must be given priority. Recent IDA policy documents have laid a significant emphasis on the encouragement of small businesses rather than the promotion of very large enterprises, which cost a fortune to entice here in the first place, cost a fortune to develop, are very difficult to manage and cause chaos if they fail. This has happened in recent cases such as Fieldcrest, Ferenka and others. We concentrated on large businesses in the seventies and have been over-generous with the multinationals, who should have contributed more. In return for the grants received, there should have been a commitment on their part to use Irish products along the line, as the company progresses. This would have a spin-off effect on a lot of Irish businesses. The media portray the small business man as one who does well for himself, drives a large car, probably costing £50,000 as Deputy Mac Giolla suggests, holidays abroad, fiddles his tax returns and avoids paying his VAT and PAYE unless pressed to do so. There is a great lack of understanding of the position of the small business man on the part of the general public, and the Revenue Commissioners and the public service who deal with them. A small number are dishonest, fiddle their tax returns and do not pay their PAYE, but the majority try as far as possible to keep within the rules.

In recent media coverage small business people have tended to be tarred with the same brush without any consideration being given as to why taxes are not paid in time. There is no feeling shown for their difficulties, particularly in the area of cash flow which most businesses now face. Of course this difficulty becomes even greater during a recessionary period, particularly in a recession such as we are now experiencing. There was the spectacle of an official from the Irish Taxes Union on a "Today Tonight" programme calling for greater powers for himself and his colleagues so that they could effectively go around pestering small businesses for completion of returns and so on.

The Government constitute a large burden on the back of small business. Any small businessman will tell one that he has a pain in the neck dealing with returns which must be made to different Departments. In any one week a small businessman may have to deal with PAYE, PRSI, VAT returns, with queries from the Statistics Office, others from AnCO, together with levies, along with Companies Office returns and forms from various other Government Departments. Government have decided that small business people should do their job for them. That is wrong and places tremendous pressure on the backs of these ordinary people who may set up their own little businesses comprising one, two or up to 40 or 50 employees and who have done so through hard work. In many cases they do not understand many of the forms they must complete. At the same time they are being hounded and expected to act as tax collectors for the Government.

The Government have decided that small business people should undertake that task for them and then proceed to hound them to ensure they do so. This is wrong and these business people have been saying so for years. One might well ask how does a small businessman set up in the first place? Who gives him the money? He cannot go to the bank, they will not facilitate him because he is a PAYE worker, as Deputy Mac Giolla said. He may be one of those in my constituency where there are thousands of them, men who are willing to work day and night if given the chance——

There is no work for them.

They go to the bank who refuse them the money, so they must go out and work——

I cannot wait and listen to any more of this rubbish. There are hundreds of thousands of workers in the Deputy's constituency who are willing to work if only given the opportunity.

I am happy in the fact that by speaking about the small businessman, the worker and the PAYE sector generally I was able to drive out The Workers' Party from the Dáil Chamber. This is what embarrasses them most because it is they who are needed to hold the country up by its bootstraps. They are the people who will do so if helped. I am glad that Deputy De Rossa could not listen to any more of it.

I was contending that the Government are on the backs of small businessmen to a great extent. I was saying how difficult it is for such people to get started. They will have no capital, no cash flow and must build up their businesses by working round the clock. Such a businessman may have to mortgage his house twice. Probably he will have to furnish personal guarantees. He takes enormous risks, living under enormous pressure. At present I do not think the Revenue Commissioners take account of the enormous pressures being exerted on small businesses, particularly those carrying a huge number of debtors. Such businessmen must pay over their PAYE and VAT contributions. I met a small businessman recently in Limerick who employed between 15 and 30 people and who had a turnover of over £1 million. He told me he had lost £20,000 in the last two years. He said he cannot sleep at night he is under such pressure; he is owed a huge amount of money for the last couple of years because of the recession. This man had had four heart attacks in one year. Because of the special industry in which he engages he has the added problem of endeavouring to get goods cleared through customs and paying large sums of money, perhaps £20,000 or £30,000, in order to get these goods cleared, VAT having been imposed at point of entry. I know many people in a similar position. That man told me he is working for his workers, trying to keep his business going. I hope that is an area the Minister will examine in the near future. Indeed I implore him to do so because of the enormous job potential in that area and what that could do for the country generally.

In addition, small businesses are penalised if they do not perform in accordance with rules devised by civil servants, often bearing no resemblance to what actually goes on in the business world. It is most inappropriate that people with no experience of small businesses should lay down rules and regulations as to how they should perform, without any regard as to whether the rules suit those businesses. I submit that that is the case. The system of collecting VAT also imposes a significant cash disadvantage on small businesses because they have to account for VAT sales before they receive the relevant cash, which constitutes another strain on them.

I might mention one other area to which insufficient attention is given by the Revenue Commissioners and in respect of which the Minister's Department might do something, that is the black economy. It is very difficult to estimate its worth but experienced economic commentators estimate its worth at perhaps hundreds of millions of pounds. These constitute another threat to the small, legitimate businessmen trying to pay VAT, PAYE, corporation tax and so on, the people who are endeavouring to keep within the bounds of the law to the best of their ability. Yet the black economy is allowed run riot, with people being allowed undercut these other legitimate business people. Such operators are putting the money in their back pockets. As Deputy Mac Giolla said, probably these are the people going about in £50,000 cars enjoying the fruits of their labours while the legitimate cannot.

I have admiration for the IDA enterprise programme, which must be attractive to anybody with an entrepreneurial spirit, anybody endeavouring to get a business going here without being bogged down by Government. Although the IDA talk about 50 jobs or more being created in such small businesses I think they should encourage as many people as possible to start off one-man businesses, making it easy for them by way of grants. I know that the system of IDA grants certainly is not geared to small, indigenous businesses here because until recently the IDA really did not want to know such people whereas an alien received a better deal. I am glad that their attention is turning now to the small, indigenous business. Our young people should be afforded such opportunity. I disagree vehemently with my colleague, Deputy Kelly, when he contends that we should be preparing our young people for emigration or jobs abroad. This is a small country with a flexible economy. It has a very flexible economy and it would not take much to turn it around. I was very heartened at the CII conference last week to hear the chief executive of one of the top three companies in the country saying that the budget has made a start, that it has tidied everything up and got us on an even plane and that we can now plan the way ahead. The type of business in which this company is engaged is a barometer of the economy and the company has been known to make statements, usually very constructive, advising the Government of the day or correcting them if they feel they are wrong.

I believe a boost should be given to the building industry, which is recognised as being a key motivator in getting the economy moving. I suggest that the Minister should consider extending the 10 per cent rate of corporation tax to profits in the construction sector in order to make it more attractive to possible investors. This has been granted to the manufacturing sector. There was an example during the past couple of years of how magnanimity can give a boost to a sector. I refer to Section 23 of the Finance Act, 1981. We have to decide whether "property" is a dirty word or whether "profit" is a dirty word and whether or not we have a mixed economy. If we accept that we have a mixed economy, what is wrong with investing, provided we pay our taxes and help our fellow men? If people decide to invest in flats as a result of section 23, thereby giving employment to 10,000 people, what is wrong with that? It is estimated that about £450 million is available for investment in the private sector and it is a matter of encouraging that investment. The figure was given in a recent statement by the head of the IDA. I believe people would be willing to take the risk of investing in the construction industry it they felt there was some encouragement. We could then aim for the 30,000 jobs we are talking about.

There was a turnover last year of £1.2 billion in the building industry and the increase in VAT on the building industry, from 3 per cent to 5 per cent, amounts therefore to £12 million. This poses a serious problem for firms which have entered into fixed price contracts. The sum involved for the cheapest house is £700 and companies stand to lose substantial sums of money because of the retrospective nature of VAT in this instance. This is a phenomenon which is unique to fixed price contracts because the time at which the contract is made is different to the time at which the consideration passes and therefore the liability to VAT arises. House builders who have entered into fixed price contracts stand to lose 2 per cent of the selling price of the house at the close of sale.

The construction industry has taken a hammering in the past year, especially through the manner of operation of the Housing Finance Agency. I heard vociferous criticism on this point from Members now on the Government side who were then in Opposition. The most vociferous person is now the Minister for the Environment. He has the opportunity to correct the imbalance which he believed to be there and he can expedite the payment of loans from the Housing Finance Agency. That alone would give a boost to the house building sector. Many small builders have gone to the wall during the past year waiting for loans to come through while paying interest on bank overdrafts.

Section 35 of the Value Added Tax Act, 1972, provides for adjustment of prices in certain circumstances to take account of increases in VAT, but this provision does not resolve the problem in respect of fixed price contracts for house building. In respect of fixed price contracts entered into before 9 February 1983 the increase in the rate of VAT must be deferred to 31 December 1983. A similar arrangement was made in respect of the tourist industry. The Minister should consider this matter.

The extension of section 23 of the Finance Act, 1981, which will come up for review in the coming year, is very important to many people in the private sector. If people wish to build flats or apartments which will come under section 23 they must start them now. The relief provided by this section has been very successful in attracting funds into construction. It has been of benefit to the economy and has also had beneficial social effects. It is estimated that this measure has been responsible for the construction of over 2,000 houses and flats in the past 18 months, particularly in Dublin, Cork, Limerick and Galway. In 1982 alone over 800 new flats were completed, compared with 437 in 1981, and approximately 360 of these, representing 45 per cent of the total, have been directly attributed to section 23. Over 1,000 new flats were started in 1982, compared with 787 in 1981 and 342 in 1980. These flats show the significance of section 23 to the construction industry. The benefits of the section could be greatly expanded. It was introduced in 1981 for an initial three-year period but to qualify for relief new units must be built and let prior to March 1984. It is imperative that the measure be renewed in the next few months. I draw the Minister's attention to it in the hope that he will do something. I do not think it is costing the State one penny. Otherwise there will be an interruption in construction activities in the period from the summer of 1983 to the spring of 1984.

Funds being invested by private individuals in section 23 dwellings are being put to productive use in the provision of jobs and housing. It is the Government's stated objective to increase housing output to 30,000 units per year. If that is the case, every assistance possible should be given to prospective house owners. That is particularly desirable at the moment because the resources available under the public housing programme must be limited.

If we extended to the building industry the 10 per cent rate at present afforded to manufacturing industry, this would give a very large boost to the private sector of the construction industry. In this industry the relief from tax in respect of retained profits is of crucial importance, given its requirement for high levels of investment in land and work in progress. The construction industry is extremely labour intensive as compared with other industries which are increasingly dependent on technology and, as a consequence, are less labour intensive.

The encouragement of the retention of funds in the industry will lead to an expansion of the industry, the creation of jobs, and increased efficiency by way of greater investment in plant and working capital. Since the products of the industry are all for the home market, they increase the wealth of the country directly. The construction industry is dominated by Irish companies with negligible foreign participation. As a result, profits generated by the industry are retained within the country. This should be contrasted with companies benefiting under the export sales relief scheme which repatriate a substantial part of their profits to the countries in which their owners are resident.

In previous budgets there was talk of attracting private funds for enterprise normally funded by the State. The only example I know where this is succeeding is in the case of the new bridge over the Liffey at Ringsend which is financed by a private company. I cannot see why other cash tied up in pension funds, and so on, should not be tapped by the State to provide other much needed infrastructure. As I see it, the arrangement would work whereby private funds would be directed into the building of roads, hospitals, and so on, and these would be paid for by the public on use. It is common in other countries to have toll roads and I do not see why they should not be introduced here. If the funds were used in this way, this would release other funds to improve, for example, the appalling conditions of our minor roads.

The tax system should encourage those who are prepared to work hard. If they earn more money from so doing, good luck to them. I do not hold with adopting a begrudger attitude, dragging everybody down to the lowest common denominator. The financial pressures are enormous on many people who are trying to get going in business. For some this involves borrowing money and pledging other assets including their house as security. If such a person is prepared to take the risk and does make a profit, he is entitled to enjoy that profit. The State is not right to persecute him because he is successful, and we should not encourage the begrudger mentality. I want to lay emphasis on the difficulties encountered by business during this recession and the nuisance of having to deal with Government correspondence especially when the Government hold all the aces.

I attended the CII conference. I did not like the suggested imposition of a pay freeze on the public service. I agree with the Taoiseach's stance on that. At this conference it was very instructive to hear the captains of industry discussing their plight and their future. It was not a depressing conference. Their hopes for the future are not depressed either. Great stress was laid on the flexibility in the Irish economy and the fact that it is much better than the economies of some EEC countries. We should have more indigenous industry and ownership. If the European economy recovers, this will help the Irish economy.

I am glad to see the approach taken in this budget. It is a fair budget. It has been accepted by the community. Although everybody realises its harshness, the reasons for it are all accepted. People realise it is an attempt to put the economy back on the rails after the mismanagement of the past five years. It is heartening to find that the Opposition share this view and have come around to the Government's view that we cannot encourage further foreign borrowing and we must put our house in order.

It is unfortunate that there is not enough money to pump into the economy. I am confident that, if we leave it to our own ingenuity, to the different Ministeries and individual Members of the House, we will be able to harness the tremendous resources we have in our young people. Given the opportunity, we will tackle the economy and put it right within the coming years. We need to restore order to our public finances and we need sustained effort over the coming few years. We should give a higher priority to cutting public expenditure and restoring competitiveness to Irish industry. Together we will be able to do this and I detect from my constituency and from the other speakers that there is now an air of confidence. During the CII conference it was pointed out by many speakers that there is no need to be depressed about the future because we have the remedy in our own hands to sort out our problems. I endorse this budget and support the Minister. I will be passing on my suggestions to him and I am confident that the Government will in the coming months formulate a plan to tackle the problems of the economy and that we will be back on the road to recovery very shortly.

When the last speaker and his colleague in The Workers' Party abandoned the contest to determine which of them represented the workers of their common constituency, I found it very difficult to disagree with much of what Deputy Skelly said, especially in regard to his remarks about the need for fostering and encouraging small industry. However, no industry will find solace or consolation in the budget, even though Deputy Skelly said he regarded it as a new beginning and a levelling plane for all. I regard it as a final blow as far as industry is concerned. If a level plane is to be attained it is likely to be the floor because, after the implementation of many of the provisions contained in the budget, that is where much of our industry will find itself.

I suppose it is par for the course in any budget debate that it would have a very mixed reception, both from the media and the public, but this has not been the case in respect of the present budget. It has met with universal condemnation from all sides. It has been described as Draconian, tough, harsh and a grab all, give nothing budget. The list of derogatory epithets which have been applied to the measures in the budget have, by now, been exhausted. Surprisingly, sections of the media which traditionally have been favourable to the policies of the Coalition have described it as hopeless. This budget gives no hope to organised industry, to the community or to the individual. In all its accompanying verbosity, there is nothing to give the ordinary citizen any reason to hope that, after enduring the harsh measures it proposes for the coming year, we will be any nearer to solving our outstanding problems of unemployment and inflation. On the contrary, there is every indication that, as far as those problems are concerned, we will be in a much worse position. There is already provision in the budget of £31 million for increased unemployment. The Minister and economic commentators acknowledge that the budget will add 3½ per cent to the cost of living, which, when other factors are taken into account, will be nearer 5 per cent. We will then be back up to 18 per cent or 20 per cent inflation, which is a very undesirable situation when one considers that the last Government brought inflation down over the last eight or nine months to 12 per cent.

The most disturbing feature of the budget is that it does not contain any evidence that the Government, despite their loud and persistent promises to the electorate a few short months ago, have the skill or the talent to tackle those problems effectively. There is nothing to foster a spirit of enterprise in any sector of industry, in business or in the individual. I realise there is a very limited scope for the exercise of imagination in dealing with budgetary matters and in coming to grips with the besetting problems in our economy. However, after all the passionate denunciation of the alleged mismanagement of Fianna Fáil administrations in this regard and the glib assurances that have been given to the electorate by the Government, one would expect at least some evidence of new thinking on these problems. If we could not have had an imaginative approach, one would at least have expected some originality of thought.

Only that I know how industrious and committed the Minister is, one would be tempted to say it is a lazy man's budget, because he has taken all the soft options. The problem was to collect as much in taxation as possible and to cut and save public expenditure. Taxation was imposed on all the old reliables and cuts were made where it could be guaranteed that the money would remain in Government coffers. We had an increase in income tax, PRSI and VAT. The result of the imposition of this taxation is by now well spelled out.

The indications are serious for the nation. Undoubtedly the budget will cause an increasing number of fatalities in industry, more people will be thrown out of employment and there will be a large reduction in living standards. Of course there will be more pressing demands for increases in wages. Unfortunately there will be more industrial unrest and many people will be forced below the subsistence or poverty line. The budget has not allowed any incentives in the tax arrangements proposed. So we go around the old merry-go-round. Instead of the Government using the budget as a method to stop this unfortunate state of affairs, by their actions they have accelerated the pace of the merry-go-round.

The Government are not without their excuses. They have said Fianna Fáil intended to implement a similar type of budget. That may be true but there are vast discrepancies in the thinking of Fianna Fáil and the Government. The thinking behind Fianna Fáil policy, as enunciated in the document The Way Forward and as evidenced in the Book of Estimates, was to protect existing industry, to foster additional employment and to hold down inflation. The budget will have the opposite effect on the economy.

It is no excuse for the Government to say that the budget, even in its broad parameters, was drafted by the outgoing Government. It is now their responsibility. They had the responsibility of introducing the budget and they cannot run away from it. As one commentator said, what is the point in holding elections if after an election the incoming Government merely implement what the outgoing Government said they would do? It is also being dishonest with the electorate. Before the election, the parties now in Government sought the votes of the electorate on the basis that they would save them from the harsh budgetary measures Fianna Fáil were alleged to be cooking up at the time.

Every sector of the community will feel the harsh lash of this budget but business and industry will be particularly affected. There is nothing in the budget that will give solace or encouragement, that will foster the spirit of enterprise or help the entrepreneurial talent in the community. Apparently efforts to attract new industry will be relaxed and existing industrial firms will be put under additional strain because of increases in the price of energy and fuel, increases on VAT and increases in postal, telecommunications and transport costs. All these will take their toll of existing industry. Last year approximately 700 firms went to the wall and about 420 firms are on the critical list. Many of them are bound to succumb because of the additional pressures that will be placed on them as a result of the budget. The result will be an increase in the ranks of the unemployed and there will be an additional corresponding strain on the Exchequer to meet the benefits which the unemployed are entitled to receive.

Faced with this stark reality, one wonders if in framing the budget the Government and the Minister for Finance were concerned about the plight of industry and business in the present economic climate. Nobody denies that industry is under grave strain and can do with every support from the public and the Government. In this connection, there is one organisation which I believe enjoys the support of the public and that is the organisation dealing with the "Buy Irish" campaign. We have a duty to support our own industries particularly when they are capable, as they are in so many cases, of producing goods comparable with imported goods. However, the duty to support Irish industry does not fall only on the consumer, it also devolves on business people. All too often even when the Irish product is equally good value as compared with the foreign item it is proferred as a second or third choice to a customer. Too many business people— not just in Dublin and other cities but throughout the country — looking perhaps to their own short-term interest are very slow in giving prominence to Irish products in their place of business. They are slow to offer them as a first choice to their customers. That is extremely regrettable when we consider that in buying foreign goods we are endangering the jobs and livelihood of our own people who are engaged in the production of similar products here. Unfortunately imported products are not confined to the manufacturing end. It is a national scandal that so many imported food products are available on the shelves of supermarkets and shops. In a land where we take pride in having good farmers and the best land in Europe it is a scandal that we should witness so many instances of the importation of foreign food products.

As regards some of the other industries, I came across a very interesting statistic a couple of weeks ago in relation to the clothing industry here. The importation of foreign manufactured goods in that industry has increased from 48 per cent of the home market in 1976 to a staggering 78 per cent in that same market in 1981 with, of course, a consequential loss of many jobs here in that industry. Therefore, it behoves us all, people in business and customers alike, to foster and promote the Irish product, and we have no need to apologise to anybody for doing so. We are told that EEC regulations forbid this and that, but I have noticed that when the national interest of some other member country of the EEC is at stake they are quite quick to take remedial action and they do not mind incurring the wrath of their fellow-members. We too should be prepared to take a stand more often when our national interest and the welfare of our people are at stake.

Deputy Skelly made a great case for small business and small industry, but one thing that will militate against business and industry is the black market. Unfortunately, we have all too many instances now of people going across the Border into the North of Ireland to do some shopping. It is a pity that the Government by the terms of this budget will have encouraged and increased this activity rather than stemmed it. This will be particularly noticeable in the towns and townlands close to the Border where the variation in price of items like petrol, for instance, is so great that it is now very well worth people's time to travel fairly long distances in order to be able to purchase this and similar goods in quantity. It is not just the damaging effect that this will have on our economy here and on the traders who will be adversely affected by such traffic, but we have also to take into account the strain it will put on our Garda and other security officers who have to deal with this situation. We have also to take into account the increased tensions that it will cause as a result in the Border area.

Another aspect of the budgetary terms is the detrimental effect they will have on the competitiveness of our industry and business and our ability to sell goods abroad. This will be particularly noticeable to people engaged in this business and many firms here are engaged in the export business. There were signs already that we were losing our competitive edge in foreign markets. Over the years there has been a fall in the percentage of the traditional markets — for instance in Britain — that we have. That is not due to a fall in or a dimunition of the market as a whole because alongside the drop in percentage points in the market we saw our rivals for the same market increase their percentage, and that could be done only because we were losing out on competitiveness in this market as will be the case in similar markets. Unfortunately, the terms of the budget will increase that danger. There is no point in a firm producing goods if they do not sell them. A firm engaged in the production of goods for export must maintain competitiveness, otherwise they will go out of business. The budget in addition to the extra taxation has brought about the possibility of extra strains in industrial relations, extra wages, inordinate wage demands which will have to be met as a result of the overall terms of the budget affecting the lives of ordinary people who will seek to maintain in so far as they can the standard of living for themselves and their families which they have enjoyed heretofore.

The budget also appears to have at least blunted the determination to attract new industry. Many of the agencies involved in the attraction of new industry have suffered cuts in their allocation. The IDA, for instance, have been reduced by £6 million, SFADCo by £3 million, Údarás na Gaeltachta by £1.7 million and AnCO by £1.6 million. Though these may be small figures in comparison with the sums allocated to these agencies, nevertheless a psychological blow has been struck at their morale. One thing we cannot afford to slacken from now on is our effort to attract new industry here and we should not appear, for the sake of saving small sums of money, to be in any way wilting in our determination to continue our support of agencies such as the IDA who have worked so well to our advantage in that regard since their foundation.

These reductions have serious implications for the unemployed, particularly for the young. We take great pride in having the youngest population in Europe and boast that 50 per cent of them are aged under 25 years. What a colossal waste to condemn this our greatest resource with all their talent and eagerness to a life of idleness and the dole, if they are lucky enough to get it. Apart from the loss to the country in economic terms such a life must be detrimental to their normal development. The spectacle of such a large section of the population being forced to accept that society is not capable of providing them with employment must have serious implications for democracy. These young people have a right to expect that they will have an opportunity to live useful and satisfying lives as members of society. They will find little in the budget to endear our society to them. Employment in the public sector has been curtailed and the prospect for industry is further unemployment. The development corporation was set up and £7 million was allocated to it. Apart from the fact that this is a paltry sum of money and a far cry from the £200 million which it was said would be allocated to it in pre-election speeches, I doubt if there is any necessity for such an agency. We have plenty of State and semi-State organisations which can offer employment and do useful work.

Industry is affected by capital cuts and cuts in public expenditure. The CII have said that the development of manufacturing industry is hampered by inadequacies in road systems, water and sewerage systems, telecommunications and technological services. They also said that capital spending to improve these areas would improve the competitive position of the productive sector by cutting down costs associated with inadequate infrastructure. While the cuts may be small relative to the sum allocated, it is a retrograde step and a psychological blow when one has to take a step back in face of the overwhelming need to take a step forward. Industries which looked for concessions because of pressures caused by the present economic climate were not given any. I am thinking particularly of the clothing and motor industries.

The motor industry has taken a terrible hammering. It is true that it takes a hammering in all budgets but this budget has outdone the others. Look at the increase in the price of fuel — 26p over the last month. When the price of oil dropped on the world market the unfortunate motorist got no share of the benefit. Road tax was increased. The industry made a strong case for the reduction of 18 per cent VAT charged on repair work done in garages to 3 per cent, which then applied to the building and construction industry. There was a compelling reason for granting this concession. The trade was in a deep recession and we all know this meant loss of employment in garages and a reduction in the intake of apprentices. Far from granting that concession the last budget increased the VAT rate from 18 per cent to 23 per cent. This was a blind move. Not only will it lead to further unemployment in the trade and encourage back-street business, mechanics, garages and so on, with resultant loss of revenue to the Exchequer, but it has serious implications for road safety. In present circumstances people suffering a reduction in their living standards will be penny-pinching. There are many basic items which must be provided for a family and there is grave danger that attention to a motor vehicle will be put on the long finger. When it is attended to perhaps it will not be done by a suitably qualified person. This could have serious implications for road safety. I trust that everyone, no matter what, will realise that as regards the maintenance of motor vehicles it is essential that they are kept in good mechanical condition. This could be a matter of life or death on the road.

As a rural Deputy I have looked at many of the provisions in the budget in that context. There was a time when a car was regarded as a luxury, but that time has long since passed. While there is public transport in the cities and towns there are many parts of rural Ireland where there is no such thing. People must rely on motor cars. A motor car used to be a luxury but now it has become a necessity. I am sure everybody appreciates that life in rural Ireland would be very drab without a motor car. There are no telephones in many parts of rural Ireland so that if there is a chronic illness a motor car is a necessity to bring medical aid in time of need.

The tax burdens placed on the motor industry will affect other industries. Tourism will be very badly affected by the increased charges on motorists. We have the highest motoring costs in Europe and this is bound to affect our tourist industry, particularly when we take into account the increase in the price of drink and other increased taxation. I believe that even the patriotic tourists who accepted the Bord Fáilte advice to see Ireland first will not be inclined to do so from now on. Many of those people will have a second think about the wisdom of having a holiday in Ireland when, as well as the increased cost of motoring, you take into account the increased cost of normal holiday activities as a result of the budget. We have many natural advantages to attract people to visit us but we also have some natural disadvantages. The recent increases in the budget will not help the people engaged in the tourist industry or those engaged in enticing visitors from abroad.

The building industry has been very badly hit by the budget. This industry has always been regarded as the barometer of our economic wellbeing but it is now in the doldrums. The VAT changes will mean that approximately £1,000 will be added to the price of the average house. There is a reduction of £18 million in the money allocated for public authority housing and an £8 million levy on developers. Those things will naturally have a depressing effect on the industry and will mean that more people will be unemployed.

Agriculture is our main industry. We like to pay lip service to this industry and to farmers. We talk a lot about the return we get from investment in the industry and what it has attracted in grants from the EEC. When we look at what the budget has in store for this industry we see that the Government expect an increase in the amount of income tax being paid by farmers from £29 million for last year to £47 million this year. The £29 million showed a shortfall from the £42 million expected. I am quite sure the Revenue Commissioners did not listen to any sob stories farmers had to tell them. I am sure they just as efficiently went after farmers liable for taxation as they did after any other person. The shortfall must be due to the fact, which is staring everybody in the face who cares to recognise it, that farmers are not making the kind of money people believe they are making.

The increase of £5 million which the Government expect to get from farmers will be in addition to the rates which they will have to pay, which last year they could offset against income tax demands. Many farmers affected by the budget are in my part of the country. In the disadvantaged areas we find many small and medium sized farms. The budget provides for halting the farm modernisation service, termination of the group fodder scheme and a reduction of £3,500 of farm income for the cattle headage scheme. Farmers will now have to pay for visits by the ACOT staff. Grants for mobile equipment and farm accounts are also abolished. Those measures will hardly encourage farmers to improve their land and to go after higher production. They will have a detrimental effect on the industry. That will have the effect of diminishing rather than increasing production.

Only last week we read in the papers a statement made by Professor Raftery to the effect that with proper husbandry, support and encouragement we could double our agricultural exports within a decade with all the advantages that would bring by way of creating employment by the processing of produce and other spin-off activities. However, the industry is not being given the necessary encouragement and support so far as this budget is concerned. Many of the farmers I represent would be regarded as under-developed small farmers who would be in need of all the grants they have been able to obtain by way of the disadvantaged areas scheme, not only in terms of improving their farms but of maintaining themselves and their families in frugal comfort.

Many of these farmers were able to avail of social welfare assistance but this scheme has been changed radically. It was introduced more than 20 years ago and a farmer's eligibility for assistance was related to the valuation of his land. The payment of this money was for the purpose of encouraging small farmers to improve their holdings, of helping to keep families on the land while allowing them to enjoy a reasonable standard of living. To that extent it was successful. Without it, we would have many more thousands of waste acres throughout the western region. In addition, we would have fewer towns because the viability of communities in the west for a number of years past has been linked to payment of the dole. These moneys provided stability for town populations. Many of the towns concerned have been through times of recession and are now developing as towns. However, I do not deny that the social welfare assistance scheme was in need of reform but it is not fair to alter it in the radical way in which it is being altered.

I agree with the recent court ruling that one's PLV should not be regarded as the yardstick in the matter of the assessment of taxes but conversely it should not be used to determine eligibility for social welfare assistance especially when so many of the people concerned would qualify anyway on the basis of factual assessment. Therefore, while this whole area should be reconsidered, there should be an intermediary period during which schemes would be made available to farmers in order to help them increase their productivity and ensure that they are employed gainfully on their lands. The problem of many of those people is that their holdings are not adequate to provide a decent income and in the areas in question there is no opportunity for off the land employment.

Instead of bringing about radical reform in the payment of social assistance, I would prefer to see the entire social welfare area being reviewed. I regret that the Government did not see fit to grant greater increases to the old, the sick and others who depend totally on social welfare. While we are in a difficult period financially, an increase of 12 per cent in social welfare payments when the anticipated rate of inflation is 18 per cent is not dealing fairly with the weaker sections. It is no answer for the Government to say that social welfare beneficiaries received a 25 per cent increase last year when Fianna Fáil were in office. We gave them a 25 per cent increase in the previous year also but many of them are having difficulty in existing on their meagre incomes. The fact that they were granted the larger increases in the past two years is no justification for giving them only 12 per cent this year or for saying that on balance they are still ahead of inflation.

I deplore the abandonment, and it is not the postponement, of the decentralisation programme. If this programme had gone ahead as planned it would have meant a lot to the west and south-west regions. First, it would have given to young people particularly the opportunity to work in the public sector in their own areas instead of having all of them rushing off to the city and putting an even greater strain on the infrastructure here. I am sure that private enterprise could be encouraged to make progress in this whole area of decentralisation. Those young people who go to the city to work in the public sector, very often in over-crowded conditions, are not helping either themselves or the communities they come from. Dublin is already over-populated. If we do not tackle the problem of infrastructure in the city now, the whole exercise will prove extremely costly and much more difficult in the years ahead.

I find the budget very disappointing especially in terms of its impact on the disadvantaged areas, on employment and on industry. There is no justification for the Government saying that they were constrained in any way by reason of pre-budgetary measures or policy decisions taken by the previous Government. That is only a cop-out.

I cannot say it was a long hour I spent listening to Deputy Morley. Like other Opposition Deputies, he felt obliged to finish up on a note of blame and accusation against this Government for introducing this budget, but he made an effort to be constructive in many areas.

I do not intend to reply to points raised by other Deputies but I would like to deal with one raised by Deputy Morley which I found interesting and that was the importance of the Buy Irish campaign. We should be aware of the importance of buying our neighbours' produce and the effects this can and will have on our economy and we should be concerned to keep as many of our people at work as possible. Any efforts that can be made in this area through our educational system or public relations organisations are worthwhile.

What I am about to say is not always the most popular thing, but I do not accept that the cries for protection every time an industry gets into difficulty or our market is penetrated from outside should be taken up by responsible elected representatives, the Government or people in power. There are occasions when we can make allegations of unfair competition and accuse others of dumping or selling on our markets at subsidised rates — and there is a certain amount of that going on at present — but we must be extremely selective in the industries where we call for this protection. We should not be so quick to say: "Look at the way the French break the rules; look what they did to our lamb in 1977. Look what the British are doing to the Common Agricultural Policy. Let us build a barrier and prevent their goods coming in." The other side of the coin is that every time we build a barrier and prevent an industry selling on our markets, we increase our cost of living and encourage yet another industry to become less competitive.

We can always make a case to the European Commission, and sometimes it could be sustained before the European Court, that for certain reasons some industries require and are entitled to that sort of protection. But it would be very wrong for us to give the impression to our vast numbers of young unemployed or to encourage directors and management in industry in the view that we can by any measure of protection insulate them against the effects of competition within a reasonable trading order which we are seeking to establish in the industrialised world. There is nothing easier to do than build up racial or international antagonism against foreign competitors, but we must remember that we participate in an open economy. We more than anyone else require open trading if we are to attract industries of any size. If we are to attract modern high technology capital intensive industries the investors must be assured that they have a base from which they can sell on the European market and further afield. If we are to attract these people not only must our labour relations be right and our wage rates competitive, but we must pursue the kind of foreign policy in which we will be seen to live in harmony with neighbouring states, recognising their problems and telling them about ours.

Recently I was approached outside this country by the president of an international industry who said that Irish people should be aware of the creeping protectionism of Europe, the very thing for which we blame other people. He pointed out that Ireland is the country which would suffer most if this protectionism develops in Europe, because if the French, Germans or British decide to throw up barriers against high technology goods produced by capital intensive industries, we will be among the first to suffer. He pointed out that we had already lost one or two important industries for which we had been bidding. It is important to note that our rating with the American investor has dropped from first to a doubtful third place, with Britain and Germany being more attractive.

When we offer our people the soft solution, the easy way out of competition, we should remember that, while it may be politically sweet music to the ears of redundant workers and very acceptable to the directors and management in industry who are feeling the pinch, in the end it will cost us jobs and opportunities; and, if pursued, can only lead to a situation where Irish workers will lose their jobs and our standard of living will drop.

The annual budget covers every facet of our lives. It is not only an exercise where we decide the services to be provided in the year ahead, but we also decide how much money will come from our taxpayers, how much will be raised within the State, how much will be borrowed, and how much will be borrowed abroad. The provisions of the budget can have much wider effect. They affect the standard of living of those on social welfare; they affect the competitiveness of our industries and they can make it harder for industries and services to compete with firms from abroad. That is why a budget should not merely be an exercise in balancing the books for the year.

I recognise that the Government, who took office a few months ago, found themselves in a most difficult situation and did not have too many options open to them. We had borrowed so much that it was recognised we could not borrow any more and, even if we did, that it was doubtful if we could repay it. For all these reasons the options open to Government when drawing up the budget were not very wide because they did not know if they could introduce an expansionary budget. The Government did not have that option. They were deprived this year of the means at least to seek to expand employment and give some sort of stimulus, through reduced taxation or the provision of extra money, to employment and production. It is hoped as a result of this budget that in one or two years time the Government may be able, in a better economic situation, to decide on an expansionary budget. It was most unfortunate that the Government are not now in a position to stimulate the economy, because never was that stimulus needed more than at present.

We have been suffering a depression for a number of years but its effects have not hit home as they might have because we borrowed so much recently, so insulating ourselves from the worst effects of the depression. As has been pointed out by a previous speaker, our social welfare recipients received on average an increase of 25 per cent the year before last and 25 per cent last year which insulated them from the effects of the depression. If these recipients — the unemployed, aged and very young — were a smaller proportion of our total population, to insulate them from the effects of the recession would not have cost so much and would not have had the same ill effect on our competitiveness and on the money left over for investment in our economy.

It is interesting to note that before we introduced the budget the public sector had been in third place in the European Economic Community in the amount of money collected as a percentage of GDP — 56 per cent. This amount was exceeded by only two other small countries — the Netherlands and Denmark — by two and three percentage points respectively. This budget has pushed our State expenditure as a percentage of GDP well over 60 per cent — the highest in the EEC. Whether the State by taking and administering 60 per cent of the wealth produced by all in agriculture, industry and other services is giving good or middling value for money is the question. We have every obligation, as a Government coming into office, faced with a large bill and having a year before producing another budget — I hope that there will be no necessity for a supplementary budget, the Estimates, it is hoped, having been reasonably thought out — to ensure that we are getting good value for the money spent. By comparison with other European countries the rise in our Government expenditure is worth noting. In 1979 it increased by 26.3 per cent, in 1980 by 27.3 per cent, in 1981 by 25.8 per cent and in 1982 by 19.8 per cent, giving a cumulative figure of 142 per cent over those four years. A comparable figure for the other narrow band EMS countries was 45 per cent, and 72 per cent on average for the nine European countries. For the first half of that period we had reasonable economic growth in industry and agriculture but that was not the case in the second half. However, the public sector demand for money still increased at a rate nearly twice as much as the more competitive EMS currency countries.

The State has expanded its services so rapidly that we have not had time to organise to ensure that we were getting value for money. In that period it seemed accepted by politicians that we could seek to resolve our unemployment problem by putting people into the public sector. I attended health boards and county council meetings some years ago when those statutory bodies were encouraged by central Government to provide jobs and money was given to them to provide these extra jobs. The bodies other than health boards, were not looking for employees and were not giving an expanded service but were encouraged to take on administrative staff and engage them in paperwork of no real service to anybody. This situation continued until the last Coalition Government came into office 18 months ago and was one of the reasons for our present situation.

In addition, every Department tended to expand in an unplanned fashion, without consideration of what they wished to achieve. This was done in the Departments of Agriculture and of Social Welfare. We made local government less competitive and less efficient when we created the health boards, taking away some of the local authority services and leaving them with the staff who had previously provided these services. Fianna Fáil did the same when they abolished rates. They took away local authority responsibility for housing, group water schemes and the like and left them with the people who had previously administered those schemes. We had the ridiculous situation of all the counties having their full complement of rate collectors with very little work left for them to do. These are one or two glaring examples of lack of care in the spending of public money.

In private industry, manufacturing and the private sector, if people do not get good value for money they will not take the service,but as far as public sector services are concerned the necessary taxation was raised by the Government in this Chamber whether the public liked it or not. This led us a long way towards our present position.

The budget has created problems for some industries, but the Government had little choice. One cannot but have sympathy for those engaged in the tourist industry—the hotel proprietors who in ever-increasing numbers are forced to close their doors because they cannot compete, not only with their foreign competitors but with some more protected sectors within the country such as guesthouses whose proprietors do not have to pay the 23 per cent VAT which hotels must pay on all their services. When the Government get time and breathing space they will have to look at items such as petrol and drink because it will be very difficult for our tourist industry to carry on. Every tourist will spend money on travelling and spend leisure time in the evenings in public houses, perhaps, and having meals in hotels. We must find some solution to the ever-increasing cost of such items from the tourist point of view if we are to make it possible for the people engaged in the tourist industry, for Bord Fáilte, set up for that purpose, to attract people here. I feel obliged to say that because I believe genuinely, considering the cost of capital investment in the hotel industry, it is very difficult for them to be competitive or to offer good value.

Of course there are other areas about which one must be concerned at a time like this. One is agriculture arising from the elimination of some development aids to that industry, for example under the farm modernisation scheme and a reduction in others, along with the imposition of some charges. For the moment these will not make it any easier for the agricultural sector to expand and progress. At a time like this, however, we must ask ourselves also what had been happening in that industry anyway. We must recognise that in the years 1976 to 1979, compared with other industries and services, the agricultural industry, proved it could improve its productivity at double the rate of other sectors within our economy and also engage in expanded production more rapidly than any of its competitors in the developing world. One country only in the developing world, New Zealand, had an agricultural industry expanding during that period at a rate more rapid than ours. That gives the lie to allegations made against farmers and others in the agricultural industry when it is contended that farmers should get up, do the job, stop crying, or that they cannot compete because they are not efficient or do not work sufficiently hard. The facts prove that that is incorrect. Given proper economic circumstances the agricultural industry was the most capable here—I will not say internationally—but the most capable, in the right conditions, of improving its productivity.

In the years since then we have had a stagnating agricultural industry, one which, in spite of the £240 million voted to it annually, has not been able to increase production at all. That is not a reflection on the agricultural industry. But at budget time it is only fair that we ask how is this money being spent, how was the farm modernisation scheme operating, how did the western drainage scheme work, how did those aids and incentives affect the welfare of our average farmer? The truth is they did not seem to affect his wellbeing all that much. Although any reduced spending in that area is to be regretted, the Government having taken such a decision it is time we stood back and asked ourselves if we can rechannel that money in a way which will encourage greater productivity, more of which will arrive eventually at the farmer's gate for investment. The truth is that more than 50 per cent of that money was lost along the way in administration. Something like £50 million has been spent on the western drainage scheme over the last five years. It must be said that as much value as possible was got for that money. It must be noted that farmers having spent the money given them on their farms, achieved all of the objectives laid down by the Department and the EEC when it was being granted. But the Office of Public Works in the arterial drainage area achieved only something better than 50 per cent of their targets in the same period. Therefore there is no reason to believe that the money given farmers by way of grant aid was not well spent because it was. Yet the truth is that we did not increase by one hundredweight the amount of beef produced or our stocking rate by one livestock unit in the west during that period. Neither did we improve farmers' incomes which dropped by 50 per cent in real terms. Therefore it is time we stood back and asked ourselves what are we to do with the £220 million voted for agriculture, how can we utilise it to make the industry more competitive, to improve farmers' incomes, at the same time attracting here as many grants and incentives as are available through the EEC.

That is another area in which we have failed. For example, under the disadvantaged areas scheme were we to pay out the amount of money allowed by the EEC, we could be expending £30 million more annually. We would be receiving half of that amount from the EEC so that we could be putting £30 million into the economy for £15 million provided from our Exchequer. Perhaps we could change the basis on which that money is spent but there is no case at all for not spending every pound of the money made available to us through the EEC in the regions for which it is intended, providing from our resources the amount required so that we may qualify for the maximum amount of grants. The same is true of the farm modernisation scheme under which we did not receive all we could. The same is certainly true of the farm retirement scheme where our social welfare legislation prevented a well-thought out scheme from being acceptable to our average farmer.

One other problem experienced in the agricultural industry has been occasioned by the fact that our inflation rate has had the effect of increasing costs so rapidly. Being a member of the EMS and of the EEC, and having to engage in a price-fixing agreement with our partners in the Community we could not achieve the sort of prices our farmers needed if they were to enjoy the same increase in income enjoyed by their competitors in the EEC. There are many things one could say about that whole situation. What we most like to say is that we go to Europe, attack other members of the Community, contending that they are preventing us from receiving increased prices because they do not accept the common agricultural policy. We contend that everybody else is responsible for our problem. It is true that not all the members of the EEC believe or support the common agricultural policy. It is true also that it is in the interests of some of them not to allow only the minimum increase in price of agricultural produce. It must be recognised that, when the day is done, we sit down and fix prices. Despite the most optimistic outlook any of us has about the sort of increased prices we would like to receive, there is no possibility that increased prices at European level will solve the problems of our farmers or of their incomes.

Debate adjourned.
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