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Dáil Éireann díospóireacht -
Thursday, 4 Dec 1986

Vol. 370 No. 7

Order of Business.

It is proposed to take item Nos. 7 and 20.

By agreement, the Dáil shall sit later than 5.30 p.m. today and not later than 11.30 p.m. and business shall be interrupted at 11 p.m. Also by agreement, the Dáil shall be suspended between 1.30 p.m. and 2.30 p.m. today.

Also by agreement, the proceedings on item No. 20 shall be interrupted at 5 p.m. today to take the Supplementary Estimates being introduced today and the following arrangements shall apply:

(a) Votes 2, 7, 10, 15, 18, 24, 37, 38, 42, 44 and 51 shall be taken without debate;

(b) Vote 48 shall be taken at 5 p.m. today and the proceedings thereon shall be brought to a conclusion not later than 7 p.m. today;

(c) Vote 49 shall be taken not later than 7 p.m. today and the proceedings thereon shall be brought to a conclusion not later than 8.30 p.m. today;

(d) Vote 43 shall be taken not later than 8.30 p.m. today and the proceedings thereon shall be brought to a conclusion not later than 10 p.m. today;

(e) Vote 39 shall be taken not later than 10 p.m. today and the proceedings thereon shall be brought to a conclusion not later than 11 p.m. today and the order shall not resume thereafter.

Also by agreement, if a division is challenged on any Estimate today, the taking of such division shall be postponed until 8.30 p.m. on Wednesday, 10 December 1986.

Also by agreement, the Dáil shall meet at 10.30 a.m. tomorrow and shall adjourn not later than 4 p.m. tomorrow and the business shall be confined to Estimates for Public Services.

Is the late sitting agreed? Agreed. Are the arrangements for today's business agreed? Agreed. Is it agreed that the Dáil shall sit tomorrow at 10.30 a.m. until 4 p.m. and that business shall be confined to Estimates? Agreed.

Would the Taoiseach like to give us the total amount involved in all these Supplementary Estimates which are on the Order Paper today?

I have not that figure in my head, but I am quite willing to tot it up and give it to the Deputy in due course.

Would I be right in saying it is pushing on for £100 million?

I have not the precise figure. I think the Deputy will be aware that these Supplementary Estimates in some areas are offset by savings elsewhere in a number of respects, so that there are several sides to it. The Supplementary Estimates, of course, in some instances represent the result of budgetary decisions.

Will the Taoiseach confirm or agree with me that by the time these Supplementary Estimates and other expenditure are given effect to the budget deficit for this year will be in the order of 8.8 per cent of the gross national product, the highest ever recorded in the history of the State?

I do not think it will.

I think it will.

The Deputy has been wrong before.

(Interruptions.)

What the Deputy was dealing with would be more appropriately dealt with when I call the items.

(Interruptions.)

Having established that financial rectitude is as dead as a dodo, I want to move to another point.

The Deputy is wrong again.

I understand the Taoiseach is travelling to London shortly to attend a meeting of the Heads of Government of the Community.

That does not arise on the Order of Business.

You do not know what I am going to say.

I have a fair idea.

Will the Taoiseach avail of his meeting with the British Prime Minister to convey to her the unanimous decision of Dáil Éireann last night that Sellafield should be closed?

I can now confirm that it does not arise on the Order of Business.

Maybe the Taoiseach would indulge the House and convey to the British Prime Minister the unanimous decision of Dáil Éireann in regard to this dangerous menace at Sellafield?

(Interruptions.)

He would be afraid to do so.

Maybe the Taoiseach is not in favour of it?

On the contrary, but unfortunately we do not have the power to decide. That is the problem.

I want to raise on the Adjournment the subject matter of Question No. 64 of Tuesday, 2 December 1986, and the bit of a con job performed on the Cootehill Town Commissioners by the Department of the Environment.

The Taoiseach might mention that to the British Prime Minister too.

I will communicate with the Deputy.

On the Order of Business, two hours have been allotted to Vote No. 48, 1½ hours to the Health Vote, 1½ hours to the Communications Vote and 1 hour to the Gaeltacht Vote.

We have already agreed the Order of Business.

I was endeavouring to get in, but you called Deputy Haughey first who was not speaking on the Order of Business.

Deputy MacGiolla did not intimate to the House or to the Chair that he was objecting to the Order of Business. It has been decided by the House.

I am entitled to object to the Order of Business because this gives no time to Deputies other than the Minister and the first speaker of the Opposition who are both allotted 45 minutes, which take up 1½ hours.

The Deputy had an opportunity of making that point when I said "is it agreed?".

Every day Deputy Haughey is called first, no matter what he has to say. When I want to speak on the Order of Business I am not allowed in. I am entitled to object to the fact that two hours only are allowed for one Estimate and that the Minister and the first Opposition speaker are allowed 45 minutes each, which leaves no time for any other Deputy. We were not consulted on this.

(Interruptions.)

Having regard to the numbers in Deputy Haughey's party and the numbers in Deputy MacGiolla's party, I do not think Deputy MacGiolla is treated poorly.

I am merely making the point that you immediately look to Deputy Haughey and you do not wait for objections from anybody else. I was offering——

The Deputy should work more closely with the allies to whom he gives——

(Interruptions.)

Deputy O'Kennedy.

The Deputy should look for something in return for all his votes——

In view of the Taoiseach's hope, vague though it may be, of introducing a budget, can he tell the House when he intends to introduce the Estimates for the Public Service?

That was asked yesterday.

But it arises on the Order of Business today. We have now been told——

This question was dealt with yesterday.

The 1986 Estimates have proved to be illusory. Can we have some idea when we will get the 1987 Estimates?

I do not know whether the Deputy was here, but that question was answered yesterday.

We did not get an answer.

(Interruptions.)

I am calling Deputy Frank Prendergast.

With your permission, I wish to raise on the Adjournment the imminent closure of the Lana-Knit factory in the Shannon Industrial Estate and the threat to 82 jobs.

I will communicate with the Deputy.

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