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Dáil Éireann díospóireacht -
Thursday, 7 Jun 1990

Vol. 399 No. 8

Adjournment Debate. - Bread Prices.

I think we were all caught on the hop as we were not expecting the Adjournment Debate so early. I thank you, a Cheann Comhairle, for affording me the opportunity to speak on what I regard as a very important matter. It would be fair to say that the ordinary consumer welcomes any reduction in the price of bread or any other grocery items at any time and for that reason all of us would be slow to say that the notion of cheap bread is bad so far as the consumer is concerned. In this instance we have to look at what is happening in the whole grocery trade. While the idea of cheap bread in the short-term may be good for the consumer, if the trend continues various parts of the country could be left without a supply of bread on a daily basis simply because a number of the smaller bakeries will not be able to sustain the type of losses that are being incurred at present and will go out of business.

The reality will be that if somebody wants to buy a sliced pan the only place they will be able to get it will be from one of the multiples. I do not think that in itself is a good thing for the consumers throughout the length and breadth of the country. A balance must be achieved in relation to the price being charged and the availability of the product, and also convenience for the consumer.

What I am trying to achieve with the Minister's help is a situation where the consumer can get the best possible deal in the long-term while at the same time maintaining a viable bakery industry.

The original price war commenced in early 1989 when Dunnes Stores reduced the price of the 800 gramme sliced pan to between 35p and 39p. The then Minister for Industry and Commerce, Deputy Burke, intervened and restrained all retailers from selling below 55p. Within weeks of making that order he revoked it, declaring that the order itself had put an end to the price war. Immediately on his announcement Dunnes Stores reduced their price to 35p. The reason for withdrawing the order did not achieve the original intention and many bakeries went to the wall in 1989, the most notable being Johnston, Mooney & O'Brien and Downes. The number of bakeries selling sliced pans fell from 146 in early 1989 to approximately 70 at present.

The publicity ensuing from these closures forced the then Minister, Deputy Burke, to investigate the whole bakery area and to ask the Irish Productivity Centre to carry out an investigation into the bakery trade. Unfortunately, more than 12 months later we still have no results from that examination. The reality is that the top 12 bakeries control 80 per cent of the market. I do not think there is a bread war taking place but rather a battle between the supermarket groups, using bread as a weapon, to decide who will control the biggest slice of the market. As the multiples now either have their own bakeries or have entered into contracts with bakeries for direct supply, there is no need for salesmen to make deliveries on a daily basis to outlying areas, with the result that costs have been reduced.

It is my understanding that it costs between 26p and 27p to produce a sliced pan, with the cost of distribution standing at approximately 12p while overheads amount to about 7p, making a total of about 46p which would allow the efficient baker to break even. Therefore it would appear that it would be totally unrealistic to sell a sliced pan at 33p as is the case at present. Allowing for the fact that in certain cases a particular baker supplies all the bread with overheads being cut as a result, it is generally accepted that it costs about 46p to produce a sliced pan and break even.

If the present trend continues many bakers will go to the wall with a huge number of jobs being lost. I am afraid the Minister will only react when the first major closure is announced. Unfortunately, it will then be too late. I am surprised there has been no indication in recent weeks of what can be done to bring some sanity into the marketplace and I am more than surprised that the Minister, Deputy O'Malley, has not taken some action, such as bringing people in to discuss the matter or produce the report of the Irish Productivity Centre who were engaged last year. Of course he cannot refer the matter to the Director of Consumer Affairs and Fair Trade as we do not have one.

I issued a statement a few weeks ago in which I appealed to the Minister not to allow a gap between the departure of the previous director and the appointment of the new director, given the type of thing that is bound to happen in this area and, in the event of an emergency, we need someone to react immediately. Since, unfortunately, we do not have a Director of Consumer Affairs and Fair Trade at present, there is an obligation on the Minister to make certain that this matter is looked into, that the reports produced are examined fully and made public and that the consumer is made aware of all the circumstances surrounding this matter.

It is unfortunate that the supermarkets are using bread in an effort to get a bigger share of the grocery trade and attract more business. If more bakeries go to the wall stores in various parts of the country would be left without a proper supply of bread on a daily basis and certainly this would not be in the best interests of consumers.

The same loaf is sold in Britain at between 55p and 59p sterling. There will be a temptation to continue to use flour from the United Kingdom which will lead to more problems for the Irish flour milling industry. Most of the major bakeries deny that they use flour from the United Kingdom but I have been told that this is not the case. While they may buy some Irish flour, the bulk of the flour used is imported from the United Kingdom. It is quite easy for bakers when an investigation is carried out to say that they are using Irish flour as they are in fact using some Irish flour, but the statistics on imports from the United Kingdom prove the point. Imports are on the increase.

I would be grateful to the Deputy if he would now bring his speech to a close.

Let me conclude by saying that most of the top bakeries in this country are now high tech and efficient. As the inefficient bakeries were eliminated during the 1989 price war, it is not fair to say that the higher prices are due to inefficiency. That is not the case. As I said, most of the larger bakeries are now high tech and have brought the cost cutting down to a fine art. I would ask the Minister to outline his proposals. I have indicated the reasons action needs to be taken now to protect the consumer in terms of supply and to ensure they get bread at the best price. I do not want us to find ourselves in a position where we will all run for cover when the closure of a number of the larger bakeries is announced, when silly action, such as that taken by the Minister, Deputy Burke, will be taken with no long-term results.

The time has come to call the Minister.

The reports which were commissioned should be produced to the public.

Last year there was a round of competition in the grocery trade which centred on cutting items of high visibility, such as bread. At the time the Director of Consumer Affairs and Fair Trade was asked by the Minister for Industry and Commerce to investigate the matter having particular regard to the ban on below cost selling imposed by the Restrictive Practices (Groceries) Order, 1987.

The director's investigation led him to two main conclusions. First, there was no evidence of below cost selling as defined in the order, that is, sales by retailers were not below the net invoice price. Clearly, there was no breach of the law. Second, it was clear that by using the most efficient methods bread could be produced economically and sold, at least in the short-term, at the prices then being charged. At the beginning of last year, therefore, there was neither below cost selling in breach of the restrictive practices order nor was the retail price of the standard 800 gramme pan below its economic cost of production. Not all bakeries could produce at these prices nor was all bread involved in the price reductions. The reductions took place initially in own-brand standard white and brown bread and subsequently spread to branded bread. Other types of bread such as wholemeal and other specialties which seemed to have a growing share of the market did not seem to follow the same price pattern. In the course of the year prices moved up and by October had returned to near the level obtaining before the promotion campaigns earlier in the year. A similar promotion campaign, again with the standard 800 gramme white and brown pan at its centre, has recently been launched. There are no grounds for believing that if the office of the Director of Consumer Affairs and Fair Trade were to investigate the situation now the result would be different from last year. There seems little point, therefore, in going through such an exercise which is costly in terms of the scarce resources it ties up.

There have been closures of bakeries and a fall in employment in the industry, unfortunately. To lay the blame for this exclusively at the door of temporary reductions in the price of bread is to ignore reality. The industry itself recognises that there was over-capacity and a need for rationalisation. New, more efficient bakeries have opened and have provided competition for the older established and less efficient operations. In the world of commerce, time does not stand still. It is not realistic to put barriers in the way of efficiency or deprive consumers of consequent benefits.

It is not the function of Government to determine what the price of bread should be. That is a matter for the market to deal with. The Government provide a framework within which competition in the grocery trade can take place. The Restrictive Practices (Groceries) Order, 1987 bans below cost selling of items such as bread. It does not and should not fix the price of commodities. Price freezing or any attempt to artifically fix the price of bread should be avoided. Such action removes freedom from the market and it is anti-competitive in its philosophy.

Philosophy aside, there is no statutory power under the prices legislation to fix minimum prices. Prices can be frozen, they can be returned to a level previously obtaining, maximum prices can be specified, but minimum prices cannot be fixed. Even if a higher price than the present one were to be fixed at retail level, there is no guarantee that the price increase would be passed on to the producer. This is because the price paid to the producer is determined by the relative market power of the purchaser, namely the retailer. If, on the other hand, control were to be at wholesale level for the operation that is virtually integrated, that is the retailer owns a bakery, the profit for an efficient operation would be concentrated at the manufacturing end where tax benefits are greatest.

Everything associated with this notion represents a distortion of the operation of competitive markets. Last year's investigations demonstrated that it was possible for a modern, efficient bakery to produce bread, at least in the short term, at prices around the level now prevailing for own-brand bread. There is no reason why the benefit of modern technology and efficiency should not be allowed to flow through to the consumer. If it is possible this week to put the sliced pan on a retailer's outlet shelf at a price lower than last week's, the consumer should not be precluded from buying it at the new lower price. To suggest otherwise is to argue that the margins of producers or distributors should be augmented at the consumer's expense.

I have two questions. Why is the report from the Irish Productivity Centre not published? Secondly, why did the Minister, Deputy Burke, see fit to put an order restraining all retailers from selling below 55p last year? The Minister comes in here over 12 months later and tells us that 50 per cent less than the price really is the proper price. The thing is a joke.

I thank you, Sir, very much for affording me the opportunity of raising this matter, but it is about time Ministers came in here and faced reality.

The Minister's reply concluded the debate. We cannot go further than that.

The order was made to allow the director to investigate the situation.

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