Dáil Éireann díospóireacht -
Wednesday, 4 Dec 1991

Vol. 414 No. 1

Written Answers. - Defence Forces Training.

Séamus Pattison

Ceist:

25 Mr. Pattison asked the Minister for Defence if, in respect of paid duty for the reserve, he will outline (a) the number of man days allocated for annual training, (b) the number of days allocated for promotion courses and the number of which refer to seven and 14 day periods, (c) the number of days allocated for special courses, weapons or NCO, and the nature of such courses for each year 1987 to 1990 inclusive, and to 31 August 1991; the take up of paid man days for each of the above three categories; the number of days allocated and taken up by command, for security and fire picket duty for each year from 1987 to 1990 and to 30 September 1991; the total amount paid in respect of such duties for each year, the rationale for such duties; when the allocation of paid duty days will be announced for 1992; and if he will make a statement on the matter.

Minister for Defence (Mr. V. Brady)

I propose to circulate in the Official Report a number of tabular statements setting out information sought by the Deputy. Further material is being compiled, in so far as records are available, and I will arrange to have it forwarded to the Deputy as soon as possible.

Members of the FCA perform security type duties in the context of the general training programme of An Fórsa and in order to reduce the incidence of such duties on members of the Permanent Defence Force.

The allocation of man days for next year is being settled in the context of the Estimates for 1992.

RESERVE FORCE TRAINING 1988

1.Annual Training 1988 — Allocation by Command and Corps

Man-Days Allocation	Eastern Command	Southern Command	Western Command	Curragh Command	Slua Muirí	Total
14,150	20,295	19,960	6,915	1,680	63,000
Corps:
Infantry	7,679	12,089	12,551	5,110	—	37,429
Artillery	1,393	3,164	2,282	861	—	7,700
Cavalry	518	504	469	—	—	1,491
Engineer	462	469	672	—	—	1,603
Signals	287	301	427	—	—	1,015
Supply & Transport	833	532	434	—	—	1,799
Military Police	735	791	882	—	—	2,408
Medical	651	651	392	—	—	1,694
Slua Muirí	—	—	—	—	1,470	1,470
Sub Total	12,558	18,501	18,109	5,971	1,470	56,609
Courses	685	1,176	1,134	504	210	3,710
Security Duty	880	576	703	412	Nil	2,571
Man-days Actually Used	14,124	20,253	19,946	6,887	1,680	62,890

2.Numbers who Attended Annual Training in 1988 — by Command and Rank

	Eastern	Southern	Western	Curragh	Slua
	Command	Command	Command	Command	Muirí	Total
	Offr	NCO	Pte	Offr	NCO	Pte	Offr	NCO	Pte	Offr	NCO	Pte	Offr	NCO	Pte
	199	458	1,140	159	501	1,983	186	540	1,861	80	192	581	33	80	97
Grand Total	1,797	2,643	2,587	853	210	8,090

SPECIAL COURSES ATTENDED IN 1988 — BY COMMAND, CORPS AND RANK

Courses	Infantry	Artillery	Cavalry	Engineer	Signals	Supply & Transport	Military Police	Medical	Total
	Offr	NCO	Pte	Offr	NCO	Pte	Offr	NCO	Pte	Offr	NCO	Pte	Offr	NCO	Pte	Offr	NCO	Pte	Offr	NCO	Pte	Offr	NCO	Pte
Eastern Command
Officers	2	—	—	1	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	3
NCO Training	—	5	—	—	2	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	1	—	8
Potential NCOs	—	—	24	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	1	—	—	—	—	—	3	—	—	—	—	—	—	28
Potential Officers	—	5	—	—	3	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	1	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	1	—	10
Total	2	10	24	1	5	—	—	—	—	—	—	1	—	1	—	—	—	3	—	—	—	—	2	—	49
Southern Command
Officers	5	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	1	—	—	6
NCO Training	—	14	—	—	2	—	—	—	—	—	1	—	—	2	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	19
Potential NCOs	—	—	27	—	—	9	—	—	3	—	—	1	—	—	2	—	—	3	—	—	3	—	—	—	48
Potential Officers	—	8	—	—	3	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	11
Total	5	22	27	—	5	9	—	—	3	—	1	1	—	2	2	—	—	3	—	—	3	1	—	—	84
Western Command
Officers	5	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	1	—	—	1	—	—	—	—	—	7
NCO Training	—	7	—	—	1	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	1	—	—	1	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	10
Potential NCOs	—	—	39	—	—	3	—	—	2	—	—	—	—	—	4	—	—	2	—	—	—	—	—	1	51
Potential Officers	—	11	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	2	—	—	—	—	13
Total	5	18	39	—	1	3	—	—	2	—	—	—	—	1	4	1	1	2	1	2	—	—	—	1	81
Curragh Command
Officers	3	—	—	2	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	5
NCO Training	—	4	—	—	2	—	—	1	—	—	—	—	—	2	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	9
Potential NCOs	—	—	11	—	—	5	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	16
Potential Officers	2	3	—	—	1	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	6
Total	5	7	11	2	3	5	—	1	—	—	—	—	—	2	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	36
Slua Muirí
Special Courses	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	15	15

RESERVE FORCE TRAINING 1989

1.Annual Training 1989 — Allocation by Command and Corps

Man-Days Allocation	Eastern Command	Southern Command	Western Command	Curragh Command	Slua Muirí	Total
13,748	20,706	19,824	6,993	1,729	63,000
Corps:
Infantry	6,265	10,612	11,914	4,508	—	33,299
Artillery	1,050	2,751	2,061	973	—	6,835
Cavalry	287	420	385	—	—	1,092
Engineer	322	399	574	—	—	1,092
Signal	273	266	350	—	—	889
Supply & Transport	560	546	350	—	—	1,456
Military Police	826	574	718	—	—	2,118
Medical	455	476	350	—	—	1,281
Slua Muirí	—	—	—	—	1,477	1,477
Sub Total	10,038	16,044	16,702	5,481	1,477	49,742
Courses	1,920	2,226	2,422	1,078	140	7,786
Security Duty	813	474	861	402	—	2,550
Man-days Actually Used	12,771	18,744	19,985	6,961	1,617	60,078

2.Numbers who Attended Annual Training in 1989 — by Command and Rank

Eastern

Southern

Western

Curragh

Slua

Command

Command

Command

Command

Muirí

Total

Offr 138

NCO 351

Pte 945

Offr 189

NCO 554

Pte 1,549

Offr 170

NCO 456

Pte 1,760

Offr 69

NCO 178

Pte 536

Offr 33

NCO 78

Pte 100

Grand Total

1,434

2,292

2,386

783

211

7,106

SPECIAL COURSES ATTENDED IN 1989 — BY COMMAND, CORPS AND RANK

Courses	Infantry	Artillery	Cavalry	Engineer	Signal	Supply & Transport	Military Police	Total
	Offr	NCO	Pte	Offr	NCO	Pte	Offr	NCO	Pte	Offr	NCO	Pte	Offr	NCO	Pte	Offr	NCO	Pte	Offr	NCO	Pte
Eastern Command
Officers	6	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	6
Senior NCO	—	8	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	1	—	—	—	—	9
Standard NCO	—	9	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	1	—	—	1	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	11
Potential NCO	—	—	28	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	2	—	—	—	—	—	4	—	—	—	34
Total	6	17	28	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	1	2	—	2	—	—	—	4	—	—	—	60
Southern Command
Officers	3	—	2	3	—	2	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	1	—	—	—	—	—	11
Senior NCO	—	6	—	—	1	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	1	—	—	—	—	8
Standard NCO	—	12	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	12
Potential NCO	—	—	28	—	—	8	—	—	2	—	—	3	—	—	—	—	—	2	—	—	3	46
Chefs	—	1	1	—	1	—	—	—	1	—	—	1	—	—	1	—	—	—	—	—	—	6
Total	3	19	31	3	2	10	—	—	3	—	—	4	—	—	1	1	1	2	—	—	3	83
Western Command
Officers	3	—	—	1	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	1	—	—	—	—	—	1	—	—	6
Senior NCO	—	6	—	—	2	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	1	—	—	1	—	—	—	—	10
Standard NCO	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—
Potential NCO	—	—	47	—	—	3	—	—	2	—	—	—	—	—	4	—	—	2	—	—	—	58
Total	3	6	47	1	2	3	—	—	2	—	—	—	1	1	4	—	1	2	1	—	—	74
Curragh Command
Officers	3	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	3
Senior NCO	—	3	—	—	1	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	4
Standard NCO	—	3	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	3
Potential NCO	—	—	21	—	—	12	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	33
Total	3	6	21	—	1	12	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	43

RESERVE FORCE TRAINING 1990

1.Annual Training 1990 — Allocation by Command and Corps up to 2 November 1990

Man-Days Allocation	Eastern Command	Southern Command	Western Command	Curragh Command	Slua Muirí	Total
13,748	20,706	19,824	6,993	1,729	63,000
Corps:
Infantry	6,265	10,612	11,914	4,508	—	33,299
Artillery	1,050	2,751	2,061	973	—	6,835
Cavalry	287	420	385	—	—	1,092
Engineer	322	399	574	—	—	1,295
Signals	273	266	350	—	—	889
Supply & Transport	560	546	350	—	—	1,456
Military Police	826	574	718	—	—	2,118
Medical	455	476	350	—	—	1,281
Slua Muirí	—	—	—	—	1,477	1,477
Sub Total	10,038	16,044	16,702	5,481	1,477	49,742
Courses	1,920	2,226	2,422	1,078	140	7,786
Security Duty	813	474	861	402	—	2,550
Man-days Actually Used	12,771	18,744	19,985	6,961	1,617	60,078

2.Numbers who Attended Annual Training in 1990 (to 2 November) — by Command and Rank

Eastern

Southern

Western

Curragh

Slua

Command

Command

Command

Command

Muirí

Total

Offr 138

NCO 351

Pte 945

Offr 189

NCO 554

Pte 1,549

Offr 170

NCO 456

Pte 1,760

Offr 69

NCO 178

Pte 536

Offr 33

NCO 78

Pte 100

Grand Total

1,434

2,292

2,386

783

211

7,106

SPECIAL COURSES ATTENDED UP TO 2 NOVEMBER, 1990 — BY COMMAND, CORPS AND RANK

Courses	Infantry	Artillery	Cavalry	Engineer	Signal	Supply & Transport	Military Police	Medical	Total
	Offr	NCO	Pte	Offr	NCO	Pte	Offr	NCO	Pte	Offr	NCO	Pte	Offr	NCO	Pte	Offr	NCO	Pte	Offr	NCO	Pte	Offr	NCO	Pte
Eastern Command
Officers	2	—	—	1	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	3
Corps Specialists	—	—	—	10	10	—	2	—	—	—	—	—	1	—	—	—	—	—	3	—	—	—	—	—	26
Standard NCO	—	16	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	2	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	1	—
Potential NCO	1	—	28	—	—	1	—	—	2	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	1	—	—	—	—	—	2	35
Potential Officers	—	6	—	—	1	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	1	—	—	—	—	—	8
60mm Mortar	—	1	5	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	6
81mm Mortar	—	7	20	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	27
84mm Anti-Tank	—	1	4	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	5
Total	3	31	57	11	11	1	2	—	2	—	2	—	1	—	—	—	—	1	4	—	—	—	1	2	129
Southern Command
Officers	6	—	—	1	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	7
Standard NCO	—	10	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	4	—	—	—	—	14
Potential NCO	—	46	7	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	2	—	—	3	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	58
Potential Officers	—	3	—	—	2	—	—	1	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	6
Chef's Course	—	—	2	—	—	—	—	—	1	—	—	1	—	—	—	—	—	1	—	—	—	—	—	—	5
Mortar Course	—	12	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	12
Corps Specialist	4	10	—	3	20	16	2	2	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	57
Total	10	81	9	4	22	16	2	3	1	—	—	3	—	—	3	—	—	1	—	4	—	—	—	—	159
Western Command
Officers	3	—	—	2 —	—	—	1	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	6
Standard NCO	2	12	—	—	4	—	—	3	—	—	1	—	—	1	—	—	1	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	24
Potential NCO	3	2	35	—	—	15	—	—	10	—	—	5	—	—	5	—	—	5	—	—	—	—	—	—	80
Potential Officers	2	2	—	—	1	—	—	1	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	6
Chef Training	—	2	3	—	—	2	—	1	1	—	—	1	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	10
Infantry Weapons
(Light)	—	13	29	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	42
Corps Specialist	—	—	—	—	—	—	2	3	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	5
Total	10	31	67	2	5	17	3	8	11	—	1	6	—	1	5	—	1	5	—	—	—	—	—	—	173
Curragh Command
Officers	3	—	—	1	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	4
Potential Officers	2	—	—	4	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	6
81mm Mortar	5	12	20	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	37
Potential NCO	—	—	13	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	13
Corps Specialist	—	—	—	2	8	7	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	17
Total	10	12	33	7	8	7	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	77

Preliminary Courses:

Man-days Used — 114.

An Slua Muirí:

Specialist Courses — 10 (8 officers and 2 NCO's).