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Dáil Éireann díospóireacht -
Wednesday, 14 Oct 1992

Vol. 423 No. 5

Adjournment Debate. - Implementation of Environmental Protection Legislation.

If the circumstances were different, I would almost say that it was a happy coincidence that these two issues have come up this evening, but in fact it is an unhappy coincidence. The two incidents to which I refer give rise to serious concern not only because of the incidents themselves but because of what they tell us about the need for a rigorous approach to plant design and to the setting up of adequate moitoring procedures to deal with cases like this.

The functions of the Environmental Protection Agency as set out in Part III of the Act include the running of an environmental monitoring programme, the monitoring of the activities of public authorities and also environmental audits, all relevant to the concerns inspired by these two cases. Part IV of the Act deals with integrated pollution control. They are vital functions underlined by the concerns we have just been talking about in relation to the pollution of the Foyle and indeed the incident in Listowel. We have gone to the trouble of legislating to put an Environmental Protection Agency in place to look after these things, but unfortunately the agency does not yet exist.

There are anxious questions about the Lough Foyle incident. It happened on a Tuesday. The company involved first said that they thought the spillage initially was small. It was not until Friday, some three days later, that they found that one and a half tons of Chlorobutedane had been spilt, which made it a major incident. It raises very serious questions about the internal controls and information within the company about what is going on in its plant. Although it is not strictly in our jurisdiction, it certainly raises questions about how the Environmental Protection Agency can carry out its functions.

In the Listowel incident the failure of a water tank allowed a large quantity of water to invade pipelines and tanks holding hydrochloric acid. That mixture is a very dangerous one, but perhaps the most disturbing aspect of that incident is that it was in many ways a repeat of an incident that had happened two years earlier when another tank burst and some difficulties arose as a result. I am not blaming the company as the company followed the recommendations made in order to make the whole installation safe; but it appears in the light of this most recent incident that those recommendations were not adequate to deal with the problem because the water burst over two concrete dams and other works designed to prevent water getting into the hydrochloric acid. That raises very serious questions about plant construction and design. Although it is not my function now to say it, it raises questions about what the Minister of State described during the debate on the Environmental Protection Agency Bill as the BATNEEC procedure — the best available technology not entailing excessive cost. That appears to have failed in this case.

I hope the Minister of State avoids the temptation given into by the Minister for the Environment to make the childish allegation that I was saying that these two incidents happened because the Environmental Protection Agency has not yet been set up. That was not my point. My point is that these two incidents again show how vital it is that we have an agency with teeth to fulfil the kind of functions that are allocated to the agency, particularly in Parts III and IV of the Act, and to impress on the Government the urgency of getting this agency up and running so that we can be sure that proper measures are taken, first, to avoid the kind of incident we have had and to monitor what is going on in plants where potential hazardous substances are present.

I thank Deputy Dukes for raising these issues this evening. I welcome the Deputy to his Environment portfolio. This is the first opportunity I have had to do so since his appointment. I know the Deputy has had a deep concern and interest in environment matters for some considerable time and that indeed he contributed very ably to the Environmental Protection Agency Bill when it was going through the House early this year.

I share Deputy Dukes' concern that we should have the Environmental Protection Agency established as quickly as possible. Nobody is more impatient than I that this has taken so long. The long passage of this complex legislation through the Dáil and the Seanad made me impatient too. However, I can assure the Deputy that since the passage of the legislation a number of practical measures have been taken with a view to expediting its establishment. Last July the Government decided that the agency would be located at Johnstown Castle in Wexford. Obviously, until the Government made a decision with regard to its location it was not possible to start recruiting a director general and directors. Since then the selection committee has been appointed and the appropriate regulations made to ensure that they can carry out their work effectively. The committee recently advertised the post of director general and the four other posts of director and the date for receipt of applications is at the end of this month. I hope a large number of people will apply for those positions.

If we had chosen that the director general and the directors be appointed by the Minister the Agency would be up and running by now, but all sides of the House wanted the fair and independent system we have selected to ensure that the Agency would be independent. For that reason it takes much longer than might otherwise have been the case.

In addition to the selection committee being in place and the regulations having been made, in so far as it is appropriate, given that it will be an independent Agency, my Department have been working to get much of the housekeeping arrangements in order. Under the Stride Programme we have got agreement from the European Commission to upgrade the laboratory facilities which we have taken over for the Agency. We have also got agreement to the establishment of a new environmental research fund. My Department are currently negotiating with the Commission on a new environmental information project which will be for the benefit of the Environmental Protection Agency. I hope the selection committee will be in a position to put forward names for appointment to the Government before the end of the year and that the Agency will be up and running at the beginning of next year.

Deputy Dukes rightly deplored the two incidents that occurred and I share his concern in relation to both. As the Deputy acknowledged, even if the Agency were in place it would not mean that either of the incidents would not have occurred. It indicates the need for proper monitoring, for high standards and to ensure that major industry operates to the highest possible standards. That was the driving force behind the establishment of the Agency in the first place. When established it will be a priority of the Agency to ensure that major industry with the potential to pollute is licensed properly in accordance with the highest possible standards.

As the Deputy acknowledged, the Lough Foyle incident was outside of our environmental jurisdiction. We do not have any direct control in that area. The question of when the company notified the Northern Ireland authorities is a matter for the Northern Ireland authorities. However, in relation to the notification of the incident to authorities in the Republic, my Department have already been in touch with their equivalent Department in Northern Ireland and it is the intention, if felt necessary, to improve the notification arrangements. Indeed, the Minister for the Environment has indicated to me that he intends to speak with his counterpart, the Minister, Mr. Howard, at the Environment Council in Luxembourg next Tuesday.

In relation to the incident in Kerry, it was not really any breach in environmental standards or any breach of emission control standards which led to the incident but rather the issue of plant safety. That is primarily, in this jurisdiction and in almost all developed countries, a matter for health and safety authorities. Issues are not always so simple that one can separate health and safety matters from environmental matters. It obviously did have enormous implications for the environment but I understand that the Health and Safety Authority have visited the plant and intend to review the procedures.

It is not correct to say that no improvement has taken place since this incident happened two years ago. Since that incident, Kerry Co-Operative have bunded the hydrochloric acid tanks and as a result no acid was released and, therefore, no water was contaminated. There was no discharge of any substance into the environment in that sense although I realise there were implications from a vapour point of view and so on.

Obviously, it is the intention of the Health and Safety Authority and the Environmental Protection Agency to work in tandem in relation to many of these issues because they cannot always be seperate, but I do hope that the Health and Safety Authority will be in a position, together with Kerry County Council, to ensure that appropriate safety standards are put in place so that we do not have a recurrence of this incident.

Finally, it is the case that we require improved monitoring arrangements. That is one of the main functions that the Environmental Protection Agency will have and when it is in place it will have a major role to play as a supervisory body in relation to the kind of incident that occured in Listowel. On this occasion may I compliment both Kerry County Council and the emergency services for acting very speedily on Sunday evening. I understand they acted very promptly indeed and, as a result, any dangers that could have occurred were avoided, and within six hours most of the major problems were rectified.

I thank Deputy Dukes for raising these issues. I wish him well and I look forward to working opposite him. I am sure he will be a very active Opposition spokesperson on environmental issues. I hope the agency that he and I wish to see established will be in place very quickly.

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