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Dáil Éireann díospóireacht -
Wednesday, 14 Oct 1992

Vol. 423 No. 5

Written Answers. - Social Welfare Benefits.

Alan Shatter

Ceist:

21 Mr. Shatter asked the Minister for Social Welfare when it is intended to implement the budget proposal announced in January, 1992, to extend maternity benefit to adoptive parents; and the reason for the delay in implementing this proposal.

As announced in the budget, the Government intends to promote legislation to provide for leave from employment for the purposes of adopting a child and to make a benefit payment available to people who qualify for such leave.

Legislation for the provision of adoptive leave from employment is the concern of my colleague, the Minister for Labour. The function of my Department would be to provide a social insurance payment for those who would qualify for such leave. I understand that the legislative proposals for adoptive leave are currently under consideration at the Department of Labour. Once the leave arrangements are finalised, arrangements for providing a benefit payment will be brought forward by my Department.

Bernard Allen

Ceist:

26 Mr. Allen asked the Minister for Social Welfare if he will make a statement on a recent decision given by the Southern Health Board in the case of a person (details supplied) in County Cork to disallow her social welfare supplementary allowance on the grounds that the assistance is not paid towards the purchase of a house under the tenant purchase scheme and in view of the fact that this person could revert to tenancy; and if he agrees with the judgement in this case.

Tenant purchasers are normally advised by health boards to contact the local authority with a view to renegotiating the terms of their agreements or reverting back to tenancy.

It is understood from the Southern Health Board that the person in question made inquiries with the local authority regarding the possibility of reverting to tenancy but decided not to do so because the rent could exceed her current weekly mortgage repayment of approximately £15 per week.

Where the question of a mortgage supplement arises health boards assist only with the interest element of a mortgage repayment less a contribution of £5 per week from the claimant. In this case, a further contribution would be required from the applicant's son as he is in employment, and is residing with her. The health boards have advised that, in these circumstances, the applicant would not qualify for assistance under the supplementary welfare allowance scheme.

John Browne

Ceist:

28 Mr. Browne (Carlow-Kilkenny) asked the Minister for Social Welfare the number of people who are receiving family income supplement in (a) the whole country and (b) County Carlow.

There are currently 7,341 families in receipt of family income supplement, of which 154 reside in County Carlow.

John Browne

Ceist:

30 Mr. Browne (Carlow-Kilkenny) asked the Minister for Social Welfare whether suspicion without proof, justifies refusal of unemployment assistance to applicants who are suspected of working or own stock.

Claims for unemployment assistance are decided, in common with claims for other social welfare entitlements, by statutorily appointed deciding officers who are required to make their decisions objectively in the light of all the evidence available to them. The evidence is usually in the form of the information supplied by the claimant in the application form supplemented where appropriate by a report of a Department's investigating officer. Claimants dissatisfied with decisions are entitled to appeal to the independent social welfare appeals office.

Suspicion alone cannot form the basis for disallowing unemployment assistance or other social welfare payment. Standing instructions to deciding officers require them to ensure that decisions on entitlement are decided in accordance with the principles of natural justice. In practice this means that an applicant should be aware of the evidence on which his or her entitlement will be decided and where this evidence has come from a source other than the claimant, that the claimant be given an opportunity to comment upon it. Where existing payments are being reviewed, an applicant is advised of the review and of the specific conditions under scrutiny. The procedures already outlined are followed.

Where information is received by the Department that a person receiving payment may not fulfil the statutory conditions the person is normally interviewed and the allegations are put to the person who has an opportunity to refute them and present any additional evidence desired before any decision on entitlement is made.
In relation to smallholders, similar procedures are observed. Where the payments of smallholders are being reviewed an opportunity if given to the person to present all facts and figures necessary to establish means. No entitlement should be disallowed or means increased without the person being aware of the basis on which the decision was being made.
If the Deputy has a particular case in mind I will be happy to have the circumstances investigated.

Jim Mitchell

Ceist:

31 Mr. J. Mitchell asked the Minister for Social Welfare if he has any proposals for changes in the social welfare code so that all children are treated equally; if, in regard to universal child benefit and child dependant's allowance payable with all social welfare payments, he has any new policy proposals; his views on whether, in the absence of a child tax allowance, the present social welfare system is creating an anomaly whereby workers with children are frequently worse off than on the dole thus creating a major poverty trap; and if he will make a statement on the matter.

Austin Deasy

Ceist:

45 Mr. Deasy asked the Minister for Social Welfare if students in second level education who have reached the age of 18 years and are being maintained by their parents are entitled to continued payment of child benefit; and if he will make a statement on the matter.

Jim O'Keeffe

Ceist:

111 Mr. J. O'Keeffe asked the Minister for Social Welfare his views on whether there is a case for a substantial increase in child benefit.

I propose to take Questions No. 31, 45 and 111 together.

Child benefit is a universal payment made in respect of children under 16 years and in respect of children aged 16 or 17 who are in full-time education or who are physically or mentally handicapped. Child benefit is not payable in any circumstances in respect of children over age 18. The fact that child benefit is paid irrespective of income or contribution record, means that it represents an equitable measure in terms of the treatment of children and, therefore, is an effective way of directing resources to families.
The relative importance to be placed on child benefit and child dependant allowance in providing support to children raises fundamental issues for the social welfare system. Not the least of these is the possible role which a greater reliance on child benefit could play in increasing the incentive to work. These are matters which are under consideration in my Department at present. Because the child benefit scheme is universal, increases in the rates of payment have substantial financial implications.
As far as child dependant allowances are concerned there have been a number of changes in child dependant increases paid with social welfare payments in recent years. The rates of child dependant allowancs have been increased significantly. From July 1992 the minimum allowance has been increased to £12.50 per week. The number of separate child dependant allowances has been reduced from 36 to 3. This has simplified the rates structure considerably and is aimed at ensuring that families and children with identical needs are treated similarly.
Under the terms of theProgramme for Economic and Social Progress additional expenditure of £69 million in 1990 terms will be devoted to child support over the ten years of the programme.
I accept that in a minority of cases workers can find themselves better off claiming an unemployment payment. This arises because of the additional payments for children under the social welfare code which are not fully mirrored in the income tax system.
In recent years the Government have addressed this problem by increasing the tax exemption limits in respect of families with children. This has mitigated the problem for those at the lowest income levels.
The family income supplement scheme provides a cash payment to workers with families on low pay. The purpose of the scheme is to ensure that such workers are better off in employment than claiming an unemployment payment. In recent years the rates of payment have been set at a high level to ensure that such workers are better off in employment.
I intend to continue to look for ways to improve the family income supplement scheme. I am also examining the question as to how resources can be made available for assistance to families, with particular reference to the need to combat the disincentive to work as it affects workers with large families.
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