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Dáil Éireann díospóireacht -
Thursday, 10 Oct 1996

Vol. 469 No. 7

Statements on Northern Ireland.

Like other Members, I condemn the violence of the IRA, and have done so in the case of the Lisburn and Canary Wharf bombings. We have suffered violence during every decade since the imposition of partition in the 1920s. I want to see an end to violence and I call on Sinn Féin to use its influence with the IRA to bring about another ceasefire. However, it is important for people to remember that another ceasefire will not bring an end to the troubles on this island. The most serious mistake the British Government made was in thinking the ceasefire announced in August 1994 would bring an end to the troubles.

Before the ceasefire was announced we had the Joint Framework Document and the Downing Street Declaration. What has happened to those documents? Neither the British Government nor the Irish Government ever refer to them. Why were these documents not promoted during the 18 months of the ceasefire? I wish I had time to quote some paragraphs from these documents, particularly paragraph 4 of the Downing Street Declaration.

It is worth considering how the democratic parties behaved after the announcement of the ceasefire. The British Government made absolutely no effort to progress the peace. I wish to quote from a front page article in the Irish News of 12 February 1996: “From the very first hour of the IRA ceasefire the isolation of Republicans was a central part of British policy”. I do not have time to deal with decommissioning in detail but we know how the British Government prevaricated over that issue and the problems this caused. The elections in Northern Ireland were unnecessary and only served to entrench Unionists further. The dogs in the street knew who should be at the talks and sitting at the table. The competition between the Unionist parties during the election led in its own way to the blocking of the roads at Drumcree during July which led to further problems.

Senator George Mitchell is a man of the highest integrity and his report could not have been fairer to all sides. The six principles outlined by him would have ensured that everybody followed the democratic path forward. However, the British Government failed to accept his principles or recommendations immediately. I question the commitment of the UUP and the DUP to progressing peace. Everyone knows what needs to be done and it is ridiculous for any sane person who knows the history of violence in the North to spend four months from 10 June trying to put an agenda together. We must ask how serious they are in that regard. The issues must be addressed, as must the rights of Nationalists to assert their Irishness. Consent was written into every joint agreement between the British and Irish Governments during the past number of years. No one will force a united Ireland on those who do not desire it. It has been clearly stated that a united Ireland will come about only when a majority of the people in Northern Ireland agree to it.

Members of the Government are not immune to criticism. Where were they when the peace process lost momentum? Why did they not act to renew its impetus? The Taoiseach, the Tánaiste and the Minister for Social Welfare, the Leaders of the three coalition parties, have spoken with different tongues at different times. I am an optimist and I call on the Taoiseach and the British Prime Minister to meet each other as a matter of urgency. They should not throw away the best chance since Partition to bring about a settlement to end violence forever. It must not be forgotten that agreement must come about within the three stranded context. There is no question of a settlement within the six counties of Northern Ireland.

It is in everyone's interests that we should progress the peace and that there should be a settlement. The Unionists, Nationalists, everyone on this island— and the people of Britain — have much to gain. I call for a restoration of the ceasefire in order that we might pursue meaningful negotiations. I hope the Governments will act as they should have in the 18 months after August 1994.

This debate could easily be turned into an occasion for an outpouring of despair by those making contributions. That should not be the case. If this were to be an occasion for despair, we might effectively abandon both communities in the North to the situation which obtained for the past 25 years. They would have no hope for a final settlement of or solution to the problems that exist there.

The Lisburn bombing was a heinous crime which every right-thinking person condemns. It is a grim reminder of events in the North for the 25 years prior to the ceasefire being called in August 1994. A return to that level of violence is unthinkable. Following the euphoria of the 1994 ceasefire, the subsequent peace process ground along too slowly. Frustration inevitably set in and led to some of the problems which are now becoming manifest. Has the peace process been the victim of the precarious voting situation of the Conservative Government in the House of Commons? If that is the case, fate has again dealt a severe body blow to the people of both communities in the North.

Political representatives, North and South, accept that if progress is to be made, the building of trust between the communities is essential. However, by its nature, the building of trust is a slow, tedious and painful process. Both sides in the North must recognise that a start is needed if an eventual settlement is to be reached. It became obvious during the summer that marching and triumphalism, on one side, and bombing and intimidation, on the other, will not lead to peace. Sinn Féin must bring its influence to bear on the Provisional IRA to end the violence forever. David Trimble and the Reverend Ian Paisley must face up to their responsibilities. The images of Drumcree sent shockwaves through the Nationalist community. Perhaps in a more pronounced way during the summer world television and media interests focused on images of marching and triumphalism and brought them to homes throughout Ireland and across the globe. It can be stated that marching and triumphalism belong to a different political era and the time has come to consign them to history. The sooner this is achieved the better.

A restoration of the ceasefire by the Provisional IRA with a guarantee of peace would demand a response from the major loyalist parties. Despite the heinous bombing in Lisburn, I hope there will be a restoration of the ceasefire. If that occurs, I also hope that meaningful and positive progress can be made at the talks. That is the only way we will find a final and firm solution to the festering sore of Northern Ireland.

What time remains for contributions from this side of the House?

The Deputy has until 4.13 p.m.

There may have been some misunderstanding about the time available. Deputy Reynolds is due to contribute but I understand it might be possible for him to speak after the Minister for Justice.

Acting Chairman:

It is unlikely there will be time available. With the agreement of the House, perhaps Deputy Callely would like to contribute in the time remaining?

Perhaps Deputies Callely and Keaveney might be allowed to contribute.

Acting Chairman:

With the agreement of the House, the Deputies may use the time remaining until 4.13 p.m.

I appreciate the opportunity to participate in this delicate debate. I have very strong views, which are on the record of the House, regarding the situation in Northern Ireland. One of my strongest views is that there is a solution available which worked in the past. Having enjoyed the peace which resulted from the ceasefire, it is regrettable that this House is once again debating this issue. Members should be temperate in the language they use. I was shocked yesterday when the Taoiseach referred to certain Irishmen and Irishwomen with very strong views about their country being akin to Hitler's Nazis. I believe he will live to regret that statement.

It is becoming clear that Fianna Fáil is the only party which is fully and unequivocally committed to the achievement of a peaceful Ireland. My party believes in the democratic process of a united and peaceful Ireland. It is only by way of dialogue that progress will be made. The Government, with its British counterpart, permitted the peace process to stagnate and balked at setting a date for talks. It was only due to the unfortunate incident at Canary Wharf that a date for round table talks was agreed. While a great deal was achieved following the signing of the declaration, it is regrettable it took so long to get to the table. We must not forget the all-party talks in Dublin Castle were suspended by the Government. We had people around the table and talking, but we were stagnant on the question of decommissioning, prisoners and other such matters. The Minister in charge of the Foreign Affairs portfolio once stated the peace process was bigger than any man or party and that he would be able to nurture it.

The finger must be pointed at the Government benches on this matter. The groundwork was done. It needed only appropriate nurturing, but the Government failed in that task. After signing the declaration the world was our oyster in terms of a peaceful country. After 25 years of needless conflict, it is regrettable that the Government has brought us back to this stage.

I thank those who called for a debate on this emotive issue. As a 27 years old from a Border county I see on a daily basis the effects of the conflict on constituencies along the Border and on areas within the Six Counties. The two years of peace was appreciated by all those working or living in, or travelling through, Northern Ireland. Bombs and killing will never be the correct way forward.

We have had a summer of terrible upheaval. I accept that because of the EU Presidency the Tánaiste and Minister for Foreign Affairs has an enormous workload, but somebody must be able to grasp every available opportunity to resolve this problem. We must not return to the violence of two or three years ago. What has happened in the meantime is worth too much. Everyone in the North has a strong view on what is right and wrong and, while it is difficult to square the circle, peace must be the goal. A solution can be found if there is a will to find it. Everything possible should be done outwardly and behind the scenes to bring this conflict back from the brink.

I wish to share my time with Deputy Deasy.

Acting Chairman:

Agreed.

It is with great sadness that I contribute to this debate. In the aftermath of an atrocity, such as the bomb attack in Lisburn last Monday, it is difficult to escape the sense of despair and foreboding we all share. I refute any imputation from Deputy Callely that this Government let matters slip. It has been intensively involved in the process since taking office in 1994. It is not helpful to the debate to state that we were handed this problem in a certain condition and did not take the ball and run with it.

The Government dropped the ball on a previous occasion.

We always knew the process would be difficult and tortuous and we will not help anybody, particularly those injured by last Monday's bombs, by entering into that type of political slagging. I do not want to engage in cross talk with the Deputy.

The peace process is diminishing and it is not the fault of this side of the House. The Minister should face the facts.

The revulsion we all feel at last Monday's atrocity is clear from the serious contributions to this debate. The anger we share at those who perpetrated this henious crime is also evident.

Monday's events cast a dark shadow over our deliberations and reminds us that violence achieves nothing. It only creates victims. In condemning that attack, our first thoughts must be with those injured and maimed by the atrocity. We can only sympathise with them and their relatives and express the hope that they will recover and lead a full life again.

That attack was the latest in a series of such atrocities since the Provisional IRA announced the end of its cessation of violence on 9 February last. Those atrocities include the bombing of Canary Wharf and Manchester, the murder of Detective Garda Gerry McCabe in Limerick and the latest bomb in Lisburn. A common feature of all those crimes is the manner in which violence has been visited on innocent people going about their daily lives.

We had all hoped the events of 1994 —the cessation of violence announced by the Provisional IRA in August and the ceasefire announced by the combined Loyalist Military Command in October — meant that such senseless acts of violence were consigned to the past. We knew then that sustaining the peace process and securing lasting peace — the overwhelming desire of the majority on these islands — would not be easy. If it was easy it would have been achieved a long time ago.

There have been setbacks. Last Monday's bombs complete the triangle of violence which has brought suffering and despair to the citizens of this State, Northern Ireland and Britain. There have been other disappointments. The slow pace of movement towards all-party talks was a matter of great concern to the Government. It, nevertheless, sought to remove all obstacles and its efforts brought about the launch of the talks process in June.

The violence perpetrated by the IRA since February serves no purpose. It serves only to prevent Sinn Féin's participation in the process of negotiations, which it has demanded for so long. The IRA statement issued in the aftermath of the Lisburn bombings spoke of regret for any injuries caused to civilians, but not for those sustained by the personnel connected to the Theipval Barracks and sought to place the blame for the attack on the British Government. Let it be clear, this House and the people we represent will not parcel out our expressions of regret and horror on the basis of the professional calling of the victims of violence. We extend our sympathies to all the victims and their families.

The IRA statement also talks about — as Sinn Féin has done for a long time — the need for an inclusive process of negotiations. The IRA and Sinn Féin must realise that an inclusive process of negotiations will not be possible while the IRA persists with its campaign of violence or maintains the option of violence to be used as and when it is deemed politically useful. We believed in August 1994 that the day of the armalite and the ballot box had passed. It is time the IRA demonstrated that.

The International Body spoke of the need to decommission mind-sets in Northern Ireland in a search for a lasting and peaceful settlement. Part of that process has been the expunction of that philosophy and of any explicit or implicit threat it carries of violence, or a return to violence, in the event of negotiations. Sinn Féin and the IRA must face up to that reality. The two Governments believe the multi-party talks under way offer not only the best but the only way forward to a negotiated settlement and we will continue to work with those parties which are exclusively committed to peaceful methods.

Those of us who are participants in that process do not need to be reminded of the painfully slow progress in the talks process. Nevertheless, the talks offer a framework and we must not be deflected or deterred from that course by what happened last Monday. Securing meaningful progress will not be easier in the aftermath of Monday's events. It will require not only renewing our commitment to that process but the combined efforts of both Governments and the participating parties to find a realistic basis on which to work. The issue which prevents progress at present is decommissioning and the best way to deal with it is through the talks process. The Government remains committed to the recommendations in the report of the international body and continues to believe that they offer the only realistic basis on which progress can be made on this issue.

The House will be aware that work has been ongoing in my Department in the period since the publication of the report on legislation which would enable its recommendations on decommissioning to be given effect. As the Taoiseach indicated, the Government intends to publish that legislation at an early date. The task of securing progress in the negotiations falls equally on the two Governments and the parties. It is not something within the gift of the Governments alone as progress in the talks, in the absence of unanimity, requires the support of parties sufficient to represent a majority of the votes cast in the Northern Ireland elections in May and a majority of the Unionist and Nationalist communities. The task of seeking that progress is not one which the Government has shirked or will shirk. I join other speakers in looking to the parties to work meaningfully with the two Governments to show that the talks process can work.

I echo the sentiments expressed about the role the Ulster Democratic Party and the Popular Unionist Party have played in the talks. Those who had contact with those parties are impressed with the commitment to progress which they brought to the process and the manner in which they presented their case.

With regard to the State's response to violence, I want, as Minister for Justice, to reassure the House of the continuing commitment of the Government and the security forces of this State to counter terrorism. The Government has always opposed the use of violence for political ends. Successive Governments have responded to such violence, regardless of its source, by doing all in their power to protect the people of this island from those who have recourse to it. The Garda, with the support of the military authorities as required, remains in the forefront of the fight against terrorist violence and continues to take all measures necessary to combat the threat. Action against terrorist organisations and the search for terrorist weapons has been unrelenting. This is evidenced by a number of significant successes, including the seizure of a large quantity of arms and ammunition at Clonaslee, County Laois, in June, the seizure of more than 1000 kilogrammes of home-made explosives following the interception of a van in County Monaghan in November 1995 and the seizure of a significant quantity of arms destined for the INLA in April that year. Arrests were also made as a result of each of those operations and prosecutions brought.

It is also evidenced by the fact that the total amount of illegally held weapons recovered by the Garda in the period since the August 1994 ceasefire exceeds 600 firearms, 30,000 rounds of ammunition and 60 kilogrammes of Semtex, as well as substantial quantities of home made explosives and other improvised weapons. These facts give the lie to suggestions made from time to time that the ceasefires were followed by an easing in the pursuit of terrorism by the forces of the State. Nothing could be further from the truth. Those who espouse violence have been and always will be pursued by the forces of law and order.

The security forces' response to the terrorist threat is under constant review and, moreover, the high level of cross-Border security co-operation which already exists and which has been a hallmark of Garda-RUC relations will be maintained and strengthened.

Our hope is that the bomb attack in Lisburn does not mark a full scale return to violence by the Provisional IRA. It is also our hope that the Combined Loyalist Military Command will not allow itself to be provoked into abandoning its ceasefire. Nobody stands to gain by that. Our duty, as constitutional politicans, is to continue to strive to show that the political path is the only way forward. That places a heavy duty on all those engaged in the talks process in Belfast. The Government will be constantly mindful of that duty. I ask all other parties at the talks to bear that duty in mind and show that the talks offer a meaningful forum for dealing with the substantive issues that need to be addressed.

I join in expressing condolences to the victims of the bombs in Lisburn earlier this week. I had hoped there would have been all-party consensus on this matter because it is far too serious to have any point scoring. Those who think that wrapping themselves in the green flag will gain them votes in elections are sadly mistaken. The Irish people are not in form for such play acting.

The great difficulty is that the evil people in the IRA have won the battle when it comes to deciding whether a peaceful solution should be pursed in the form of all-party talks or whether a bombing and shooting campaign should be recommenced. We can only hope that the public revulsion expressed will change the minds of these horrible people.

I wish to refer to a statement by the Tánaiste and Minister for Foreign Affairs, Deputy Spring, last summer referring to republican prisoners in British jails. I am the leader of the Irish delegation to the Council of Europe for this year. The Council of Europe is a humanitarian body which examines human rights abuses and the inhuman and degrading treatment of people in detention. In his statement the Tánaiste indicated that the treatment of republican prisoners in British jails had worsened considerably since the implementation of the ceasefire in the preceding year.

One would have thought that with the implementation of the ceasefire their conditions would have improved considerably. I was taken aback on reading the statement. As a consequence three parliamentary delegations from Fianna Fáil, Fine Gael and the Labour Party visited the republican prisoners who were about 24 in number in the prisons of Belmarsh, Whitemoor, Full Sutton and Frankland. The reports of the three groups condemned the British system.

Violence begets violence. We must ensure that procedures are carried out properly. The republican prisoners have been convicted of appalling crimes — murders, bombings and maimings — yet prisoners must be treated with a certain amount of respect. The reports of the parliamentary delegations indicated that the prisoners were locked up for 22 or 23 hours a day; given the minimum of food; their heating was turned off in the severest weather in winter and their family visits were frustrated to such an extent that some of them did not receive visits for 12 or 14 months. In addition they were deprived of sleep by searches during the night, constant knocking on the cell doors or by the turning on and off of lights. These practices should not be allowed.

I raised this matter at the Council of Europe on the committee on human rights and legal affairs of which I am a member. The committee agreed that a subcommittee on human rights should visit the prisons to see the conditions at first hand. The British delegation to the Council of Europe has frustrated our attempts to have the subcommittee on human rights visit the prisons. It is a sad reflection on the British Government and the British delegation in Strasbourg. There are no similar complaints from prisoners in Northern Ireland or in Portlaoise Prison. If justice is to be done and we are to defeat the terrorists, we must ensure there is equity and that people are treated in a proper and humane fashion. While we sympathise with the victims of violence and condemn the men of violence, we would like to see justice meted out properly.

Yesterday on the Order of Business the Taoiseach quoted the editorial in the Irish News about how the IRA has betrayed the people of Ireland. The word “betrayal” is exactly right. It applies to all the hopes so poignantly held by the people in both parts of the island and beyond that the cruel shadow of violence was being lifted and that they could once again enjoy their birthright of peace. It applies to all those here, in Britain, in the United States and elsewhere who took political risks to build bridges into democratic politics for the republican movement. It applies also to those within the republican movement who, I sincerely believe, made great efforts to lead their movement out of an ever more futile and murderous cul-de-sac. It applies to the stated goals and ideals the republican movement professes to serve.

At a time like this it is very difficult not to succumb to anger and despair. No one can avoid feeling these emotions and the more one has worked to better the situation the more keenly they will be felt. At the same time we must recognise that these emotions, however understandable, are bad counsellors and policies made in their shadow are unlikely to be wise. It is at such times that a calm and steady assessment is important, particularly for Governments, which must make the hard decisions. Let us therefore review the many constructive points which have been made here today.

At the top of any list of generally agreed positions is the acceptance, held firmly and without question on all sides in this House, that violence is morally wrong, without political justification, incapable of producing any solution and it must be resolutely opposed by all the security means at our disposal and all the political resources at our command.

It follows clearly that no tactic of mixing violence and politics can be tolerated. No amount of ballot boxes can hide the armalite. Any society which tolerated the armalite with one set of ballot boxes would sooner or later end up with an armalite with every ballot box. I am certain that Sinn Féin can point to no moment, before, during or after the ceasefire, when this principle was not the bedrock and explicit basis on which successive Irish Governments have had dialogue with it.

A second area of near universal agreement is that the solution to the Northern conflict must be pursued and can be found only through political dialogue and the fullest possible application of the principle of concent. A united Ireland imposed without the clearly expressed agreement of a majority of the people of Northern Ireland would be a flagrant breach of the principle. It would be the very opposite to a solution and it is simply an inconceivable option for most people on this island, North and South. It quite literally will never happen. Anyone who pretends otherwise is either grossly deceived or grossly deceiving — whether the claim comes from a Nationalist quarter to foster unreal illusions or from a Unionist quarter to stoke the old fears the better to manipulate them.

At the same time, political consent is not a concept which stops at the Border. As Deputy Harney spelled out in her contribution this morning, Unionists who invoke it in the direction that suits them, namely as a protection against being forced into a united Ireland, have also a duty to respect it where it may not suit them, namely the need for new arrangements to which Nationalists in Northern Ireland can give their consent. Much of the misunderstanding which Unionists complain of in the South or internationally stems from their persistent failure to act upon this point, which most observers see as a sheer practical necessity as well as being a requirement of fairness.

It is broad common ground also that a political solution must address all the key relationships and ensure parity of esteem and just and equal treatment for the identities and aspirations of both traditions and both communities. Unionists cannot be marginalised in their own country, and neither can Nationalists. Equality and mutual respect are not just moral ideals — they are in practical terms the only ground on which the two communities can reach a stable equilibrium.

It is common ground also that the Stormont talks have, potentially at least, all the ingredients necessary for meaningful negotiations. They are inclusive in intent and could become so in practice subject only to decisions which lie in the hands of the republican movement itself. They address all strands. They have a comprehensive agenda with all issues unquestionably on the table. They have outstanding chairmanship. They can be the vehicle for a meaningful accommodation, if the political will is there all round.

The parameters of such an accommodation are well understood between the two Governments. They enjoy, broadly speaking, bipartisan support in both Parliaments and therefore represent something close to a settled consensus between the wider Irish and British democracies. Anyone who accepts all the existing realities and not just those of them it is tactically expedient to acknowledge will conclude that any likely accommodation will be recognisably in the mould described in the joint framework documents.

Today's debate helped to remind us how many solid reference points we have in terms of agreed common ground. These points of agreement did not always exist. Many are from lessons learned from mistakes and bitter experience.

We should not really be surprised that in the new approaches and in the political risks we have taken in the quest for peace we are still refining our road maps and our reference points are less clear. We must find our bearings in a situation that is still fluid and open to change for better or worse. As democrats we have a duty to encourage those who may be beginning to understand the futility and poison of violence to commit themselves exclusively to the political path. Any peaceful future must of necessity emcompass that change. As democrats we have also a duty to ensure that our dialogue does not in any way compromise our democratic principles and institutions. What we are offering and all we will ever offer is a bridge into the democratic arena whose basic ground rules are unchanged, the same for all and incompatible with any hint, much less threat, or use of violence.

The peace process was rightly called a process. Fundamental change, such as exchanging a culture of violence for one of exclusively democratic commitment, is rarely instantaneous. Setbacks and disappointments are only too likely. These must be seen in the context of the wider question of the overall direction of change.

Apart from the moral opprobrium earned by IRA actions since the breakdown of the ceasefire, they are putting an emphatic question-mark over this issue. They are progressively widening the credibility gap which Sinn Féin must overcome if it is ever to deal as a fully accepted democratic player among all the other democratic players. They are refurbishing the suspicions and hatreds which even the most hardened paramilitary must recognise as threatening the welfare of both communities and the basic values of both.

The Government has consistently sought to maintain a careful balance between giving the necessary encouragement to those who are genuinely seeking a transition from violence to peace while at the same time ensuring that this cannot be exploited by those whose purposes could well be the opposite. Consistent with that, we have both maintained our guard and refrained from slamming any door gratuitously.

It goes without saying that the security measures necessary to counter terrorism from every quarter remain and have always been maintained in full force. Garda actions, and some significant successes, speak for themselves in that regard. I mention it only because sometimes one hears statements or interviews implying that involvement in the peace process must mean some degree of indulgence to those in violation of the law. That never was and never will be the case.

Secondly, we have constructed a political process which will accommodate Sinn Féin on certain specific terms, but, if those terms are not met it enables all those who do abide by the necessary democratic ground rules to do business without them and to demonstrate clearly that violence carries no political veto.

It is a matter of regret and concern to the Government that the rate of progress at these talks has been disappointingly slow. Contrary to some recent and rather astonishing statements by some Unionist spokespersons that this is because the two Governments had a foot on the brake while waiting for Sinn Féin, I want to state clearly that the Government and all other participants except the three Unionist parties have been seeking eagerly to get into the substantive phase of the negotiations since 10 June. The main stumbling block in the talks so far has been the shadow of the decommissioning issue which, intentionally or otherwise, is being developed by the Unionist parties into a hurdle that the republican leadership would find it impossible to clear.

The Government has made clear that we see decommissioning as an essential part of any comprehensive peace settlement. We have shown by our actions, including the preparation of legislation, that everything that lies in our power will be done to further that objective. However there is little point in us, or anyone else, pretending we will do things on decommissioning that are not in our power. Our security forces have had a "decommissioning policy" from the beginning, to do their utmost to detect and confiscate illegal weaponry. They will leave no stone unturned in this respect in the future.

We must not however confuse this necessary exercise with the wider ambition to persuade those who have so far eluded detection, to disarm voluntarily. That wider goal can only be achieved through an inclusive process of negotiation and with the co-operation of those who hold the weapons. That is a political challenge, and it is for the Unionist parties as well as the others to create the political climate where it can become a reality.

The report of the International Body offered an impartial, objective and carefully balanced analysis of how the decommissioning issue might be handled. We have from the beginning urged all parties to accept the report as the basis for movement forward out of the quagmire in which we have been bogged down. We succeeded, in June, in reaching agreement with the British Government on this issue, and the joint proposal we published on 1 October is firmly grounded on the necessity of commitment to the implementation of the Mitchell report in all its aspects. In this context, it is regrettable that the Ulster Unionist Party seemed last week to retreat from its earlier acceptance of the report and to reinstate a precondition close to Washington 3. However, I welcome Mr. Trimble's assurance, in a speech delivered on Saturday, that "we cannot now... return to prior decommissioning". We look forward to exploring the scope for flexibility which may exist and to moving rapidly forward.

On a wider scale, it would be absurd for the negotiations to break down over an issue which remains, for as long as there is no IRA ceasefire, entirely hypothetical, given that the need for decommissioning to be mutual eliminates the possibility of loyalist action at this time. It is equally paradoxical that the political process should for so long have been dominated by an issue which elevates military hardware to a place of primacy, and gives the paramilitary quartermasters an unprecedented role in the pace of the political process. Surely the time has come to move on at speed to the real issues which so urgently need to be confronted and which have been spelled out by many speakers earlier today.

I do not deny the very real emotional force of the decommissioning question has been underscored by Monday's atrocity. The fear that the republican movement might, even after the entry of Sinn Féin to talks, seek to use the language, or even the methods, of coercion and threat is understandable. So is the anxiety that even after an honourable and balanced settlement some republican diehards might return to force. I do not say these fears are unreal but when examined they can surely be put in perspective. Unionists can rely on the firm basis of principles on which the negotiations have been established, and which safeguard both the primacy of democratic means and the need for majority support for any settlement.

They can depend on the continued determination of the security forces on both sides of the Border, as well as, surely, their own continuing resilience and determination not to be intimidated. The overwhelming majority of Nationalists, on the questions of violence and of consent, are not, and will not be, on the side of the IRA, but on the side of their Unionist neighbours. Which situation is, objectively, more threatening to their security and well-being: a political vacuum filled with bitterness and recrimination, or a political settlement encompassing the principles of consent, democracy and nonviolence?

We share with the Unionists the need to be reassured on the good faith and democratic commitment of Sinn Féin before they are admitted to the political process. For as long as they do not meet the terms we have set out they will not be at the negotiating table. It is important however to recognise that inclusive negotiations against a background of peace are incomparably the best approach, and therefore should be kept as our preferred goal. If that cannot be attained, then we must do everything to make a success of the options we have. It would be perverse however to gratuitously block the routes whereby, if wiser counsels ultimately prevail in the republican movement, the truly peaceful and inclusive process we would wish to see can become a reality. Negotiations to end the conflict are in the last analysis a duty for all those who have a contribution to make. We should press Sinn Féin to meet their responsibilities and requirements in that respect, on behalf of the constituency they represent and which deserves the place at the table which the IRA has blocked. I look forward to returning to Stormont next week, at the head of the Irish Government delegation, and to working with all of those committed to democracy to prove that violence and intimidation will not blow us of course.

I will deal briefly with some specific points raised in the course of the day. A number of Deputies have referred to the recommendation by the European Parliament Budget Committee to reduce the 1997 budget for the Programme for Peace and Reconciliation. I understand all members of the European Parliament wish the agreed programme to continue and that the budget amendments are not based on any wish to halt or damage the programme. Yesterday's proposal by the Budget Committee is only a stage in an extended budgetary procedure and I am sure the difficulties are temporary and will be resolved. I can assure Deputies that the Government will do everything possible to ensure that the full funding, as agreed by all institutions of the Union, is made available to the programme.

Deputy Bertie Ahern criticised the Government's handling of the peace process and in particular the extent of my involvement. These criticisms are entirely unjustified. As far as the Government is concerned, I doubt that any previous Government has ever devoted more time to the Northern Ireland question. Neither, I would suggest, has any previous Government been in such frequent and sustained contact with the British Government in seeking to carry forward the peace process. In addition to permanent channels of communication through the Anglo-Irish Secretariat and diplomatic missions, regular contact between the Taoiseach and the Prime Minister, and between me and the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland, Ministers and officials spend three days of every week in Belfast where they are in virtually continuous consultation with their British opposite numbers.

For anyone to claim there is little to show from such contacts is to ignore reality. What the two Governments are trying to do — to secure the negotiation of a comprehensive political settlement which is both acceptable to the Governments and the representatives of all democratically mandated political parties in Northern Ireland, and capable of securing popular approval in referendums North and South — has not been attempted before. If we want these negotiations to succeed — regardless of whether Sinn Féin is involved — we have to be prepared for a long and difficult journey.

The Government is both energetic and effective in pursuit of our policies. I find it hard to reconcile suggestions from Deputy Bertie Ahern that I am not sufficiently involved in matters relating to the North with frequent Unionist protestations that my pervasive influence is their main problem. I can assure the Deputy that I am fully engaged in Northern policy in general and in the multi-party talks in particular. Furthermore, the Government fields a highly experienced and effective team of Ministers and officials at the negotiations which, I would suggest, yields nothing in comparison to that fielded during the 1991-92 talks.

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