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Dáil Éireann díospóireacht -
Thursday, 23 Jan 1997

Vol. 473 No. 5

Adjournment Debate. - Status of Cork Regional Technical College.

I am extremely disappointed at the failure of the Minister for Education to be present to take this debate. She was in the House throughout Question Time and left not more than 30 minutes ago. The fact that she cannot be here to take this important debate will send very clear signals to the people of Cork which will be interpreted in a manner that will not please the Minister. At the very least I should have expected the Minister of State at her Department, Deputy Bernard Allen, to be present to hear the facts presented by Deputy Martin and me.

I ask the Minister of State at the Department of Health, Deputy Currie, to take the clear message to the Minister for Education that she move immediately to designate Cork Regional Technical College as an institute of technology. It is imperative that this designation be made in respect of Cork regional technical college in advance of the closing date for the completion of CAO application forms. Cork regional technical college is the largest, most advanced and diverse of all of the ten regional colleges nationwide, incorporating the Crawford College of Art and the Cork School of Music.

The Minister for Education has come into the House and I welcome her. The college offers 14 degree courses, a number much greater than the other nine regional colleges. In addition, there are 23 diploma courses, certificate and professional accountancy courses. I appeal to the Minister to meet the director of Cork regional technical college immediately and to take urgent steps to designate it as a regional college of technology. It is already that type of institution; all it now needs is to be given the grant-in-aid.

With my colleagues in the Fianna Fáil Party and Deputy Quill I raise this matter to convey to the Minister and the House the depths of anger and resentment felt in the city of Cork, particularly among the staff and students of Cork regional technical college, resulting from the Minister's failure to respond in any way to a submission by the college seeking an upgrading of its status to an institute of technology.

The constituent colleges of Cork regional technical college have a long tradition of excellence in science, engineering, technology, business, arts and music dating back to the 19th century. The college offers programmes at certificate, diploma, degree, masters and doctorate levels within all of these disciplines.

Given its record of achievement it is difficult to understand why the Minister has ignored its submission to date and why she has failed to meet a delegation of the governing body of the college to discuss their request for such an upgrading. It is rather pathetic that the Minister cannot meet the people concerned directly. We welcome the decision to upgrade Waterford regional technical college to an institute of technology. However, we contend that Cork Regional Technical College is entitled to such upgrading given its track record, its outstanding achievements in the past and its visionary plans for the future.

I visited the college on Tuesday last, when it was heartrending to see the disappointment and disillusionment written on the faces of a dedicated staff and student body. The students contend that the quality of their work has been undermined, that their qualifications will be devalued ultimately because of the Minister's inaction and that, on the international stage, their degrees will not have the same currency as has been the case to date.

In reaching any decisions in respect of this sector the Minister should have established and published set minimum criteria to which all other regional technical colleges could aspire to achieve a similar upgrading of status. Only through the creation of a proper national framework can a rational and planned approach be adopted.

The reason there is such anger in Cork, that people genuinely feel that Cork regional technical college deserves an upgrading in status, is simple. By any external criterion the college is more than entitled to such status. I invite anybody from outside the college to assess the position independently and I have no doubt they would reach the same conclusion. Cork is one of the regional technical colleges which has developed a very extensive post-graduate research base. Four national technology centres, providing specialised services to industry, are located within the campus; over 10,000 students are involved and within the CAO/CAS system the college has the highest points for entry of all the regional technical colleges.

The students themselves are extremely concerned about the status of their qualifications. The Minister cannot adopt an á la carte approach and must take on board the students' deep concerns. They deserve the best and to have their qualifications recognised internationally.

I want the Minister to give the House a commitment that she will travel to Cork over the next few days, that she will meet the student bodies who have been protesting outside of the City Hall in Cork for the past few days. I want the Minister to meet them and their leaders directly. She talks much about partnership in education, about consultation. Why not go to Cork, meet the students involved, the director of the college and take the decision which is their due as urgently as possible?

I should like to place on record that the order in which I was led to believe the Adjournment Debate would take place was the reason for my not being present for the beginning of this debate and that not alone am I present but I am joined by my Minister of State, Deputy Allen, and Deputy Kathleen Lynch.

I am grateful to both Deputies for raising this matter and glad of the opportunity to advise the House of the up-to-date position.

The report of the Steering Committee on the Future Development of Higher Education, approved in principle by Government, recommended the upgrading and expansion of Waterford Regional Technical College as the most appropriate response to the higher education needs of the south east region. The committee noted the high level of potential demand for degree level places, combined with a level of participation at that level below the national average. In the absence of a university in the region, the committee recommended that it would be appropriate that a major element of the expansion of the regional technical college would be at degree level while maintaining the thrust of its activities at technician level. My recent announcement on the future plans for Waterford regional technical college is based on the recommendations of the Steering Committee on the Future Development of Higher Education.

My announcement has drawn a reaction from Cork Regional Technical College. Clearly staff, students and graduates are proud of their college. I am concerned that the announcement about Waterford has been interpreted as in some way diminishing the status of Cork regional technical college. This is not the case. On the contrary, I have congratulated Cork regional technical college on its highly significant achievements on a number of occasions and on the fact that its standards of excellence are internationally recognised and valued. My announcement does not change that.

This week the Government arranged for the publication of proposals from TEASTAS — the Irish National Certification Authority — for a national qualifications framework. The TEASTAS report, which I welcome, sets out proposals which will facilitate the growth and evolution of Cork Regional Technical College and the other colleges in the sector.

I have asked my departmental officials to meet the authorities of Cork Regional Technical College. I see this meeting as an important step in a process which will respond to the aspirations of Cork regional technical college. I emphasise the word "process"— education cannot be based on knee-jerk reactions, on opportunistic decisions or short-term responses. The decision on Waterford is based on the Steering Committee report, buttressed by its Technical Working Group report which was published more than one and a half years ago.

The timing was political.

It is a planned response, based on an independent report. I have responded to Waterford's needs on the basis of independent advice received by me. I will respond to similar independent advice on Cork Regional Technical College or on any other college in the sector.

The Minister has given no commitment. She is just putting the problem on a very long finger.

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