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Dáil Éireann díospóireacht -
Wednesday, 29 Sep 1999

Vol. 508 No. 1

Adjournment Debate. - Nursing Home Subventions.

It is unfortunate the Minister for Health and Children has not been able to attend tonight to reply to this debate.

Yesterday the distressing story of a 52 year old man with Alzheimer's disease was featured in the Evening Herald. Up to two years ago this man was leading a perfectly normal life but, with the rapid onset of Alzheimer's disease, he now requires constant care. Seven months ago he was placed in a private nursing home in Dublin but his family have been told by the nursing home that it is no longer able to care for him because of the nature of his illness.

This heartrending story is not unusual. Hundreds of families throughout the country are acutely aware of the huge shortfall in care facilities for people with dementia. Nursing home facilities for such people are grossly inadequate, particularly for male patients. Many nursing homes, like the one we heard about yesterday, are forced to turn down patients with acute dementia because of their inability to meet the care needs of these patients.

With nowhere else to go, these patients are often placed in general hospitals which are totally unsuited to their needs. Unfortunately, it is often the case that because a general hospital does not suit Alzheimer's patients' needs, they are sedated to a much greater extent than is medically necessary. This is simply to allow them to be contained within hospitals. This is a totally unacceptable practice and only arises because of the severe lack of places available for such patients.

When it comes to providing private care, most families do not have the money to place their loved ones in a care facility that will provide the type of professional care that they so desperately require. As it stands, families with a member in a private nursing home are entitled to receive a maximum of £120 a week as a subvention. This leaves a huge shortfall to be met. My reason for raising this issue is that it was recently brought starkly to my attention by a constituent whose 79 year old father has acute dementia. He has been cared for by his 75 year old wife for the last number of years. She has provided tremendous care and attention in a loving setting at home, but it has reached the point where she will not survive herself if she continues doing so. The family applied for a subvention and they were granted the maximum amount of £120. They sought a nursing home place and they eventually found a suitable place in Whitehall in the Alzheimer's centre, where the man settled in well.

When the family went to claim the subvention from the health board, they were told they were not entitled to it because the man was in a nursing hospital facility rather than a nursing home. I appeal to the Minister of State to ensure that a minor technicality such as this does not prevent a family ensuring that their loved one receives the type of care and attention to which he is entitled and which they desperately want him to have at the end of his days. When they brought this matter to my attention, I contacted the Eastern Health Board which checked every nursing home in the city of Dublin that was capable of catering for Alzheimer's patients. It was unable to find a place. There is one facility on the north side of Dublin which may be suitable but, unfortunately, there are no beds there at present. The family were told that they would have to wait until a patient died.

They are not prepared to move their father out of a nursing facility which meets his needs exactly. As it stands, the family will have to make up the huge shortfall because it is not a cheap facility by any means. Under great pressure, the family is prepared to scrimp and save and to put together the money to make up the balance. However, I cannot understand why the Minister of State cannot approve the payment of the £120 subvention in this case. I point out that the family has no other choice whatsoever. It is out of the question for this man to come home and for his elderly wife to care for him and there is nowhere else in the entire Eastern Health Board area which can cater for this man.

I appeal to the Minister in the strongest possible manner to ensure that a small, minor technicality will not get in the way of this man receiving the care he needs. I urge him to ensure that the subvention can be paid to the man in this suitable facility which happens to be a nursing hospital.

I thank Deputy Shortall for raising this issue. I wish to advise her that I look after the elderly section which includes the dementia area. This is why the Minister, Deputy Cowen, is not present. It is appropriate that I should deal with the matter.

The payment of subvention in private nursing homes is governed by the Health (Nursing Homes) Act, 1990, which together with regulations made under the Act came into effect on 1 September 1993. The provisions of the Act specifically exclude institutions within the meaning of the Mental Treatment Acts, 1945 to 1966. Private hospitals of the type referred to by the Deputy are not, therefore, covered by the nursing homes subvention scheme. However, there are a range of other options available in relation to the provision of services for people with dementia.

Regarding these services, I have been informed by the Eastern Health Board that the level of service provision by way of long stay facilities, contract beds and public psychiatric hospitals provide sufficient flexibility in the system to meet the range of current demands.

There are no beds.

I will get to that.

There is not a single bed.

Please, Deputy Shortall, allow the Minister of State to continue without interruption. His time is limited.

I want a factual account.

His time is limited and he is entitled to reply.

These continue to be developed by the Eastern Health Board to deal with the future needs of vulnerable groups.

On a point of order, there isn't a single bed for this man.

Deputy Shortall, that is not a point of order. The Minister is obliged to conclude replying within five minutes. If you wish to hear his reply, allow him to continue.

I want an accurate reply.

If the Deputy gives me a chance to reply, I will take her points on board. The Deputy may be already aware that certain private nursing homes provide care for particular categories of patients, such as those suffering from dementia. Persons seeking admission to such a nursing home may be eligible for assistance under the subvention scheme and application should be made to the appropriate health board by or on behalf of the person concerned. I will pass on the particular circumstances of the case raised by the Deputy to the chief executive officer of the Eastern Health Board for his attention. I understand the Deputy has already done so but I will also do it.

Yes, and there are no beds.

Please, Deputy Shortall, allow the Minister to conclude.

In relation to the private nursing home subvention scheme generally, I wish to add that £33 million is being spent on the scheme in the current year. This represents a substantial increase on the 1998 figures arising mainly from the increased number of people in receipt of subventions and more people being assessed as having higher levels of dependency.

I have taken note of the Deputy's comments and I will take them on board when I contact the chief executive officer of the Eastern Health Board. As the Deputy said, dementia is a problem and there may not be suitable facilities readily at hand. However, the chief executive officers have flexibility and I will exhort them to perhaps do something for this particular patient.

In the present facility?

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