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Dáil Éireann díospóireacht -
Tuesday, 26 Jun 2001

Vol. 539 No. 1

Priority Questions. - Live Exports.

Seymour Crawford

Ceist:

18 Mr. Crawford asked the Minister for Agriculture, Food and Rural Development if he will provide an update on livestock export to Lebanon, Italy and Spain; the number of cattle to date that have been exported since the reopening; the prospects there are for live exports in the near future; the progress which has been made towards reopening the Egyptian, Iranian and other beef markets; the intervention price available as the alternative to the open market; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [18821/01]

It is the policy of the Government that every export market should be open to Irish beef and cattle and no effort is being spared by me, my Department, the Department of Foreign Affairs and Bord Bia to bring this about. Each of our important export markets is being dealt with in whatever way is most appropriate to the circumstances prevailing in that market. The strategy to be adopted in each case is kept under constant review having regard to advice from our embassies and Bord Bia.

Trade with the Lebanon has resumed and exports to that country recommenced on 13 June with a shipment of 1,296 cattle. With regard to the EU, while intra-Community restrictions on trade have been lifted, live exports have not yet recommenced. There are issues relating to the transport of animals through member states and to the specific guarantees required by importing veterinary authorities which remain to be resolved. Once overland transport of animals recommences, appropriate lairage facilities will be required in France involving the appropriate veterinary or animal welfare measures. The provision of such facilities in the past has not been a problem.

With regard to beef, Egypt is our largest market and much of our effort in recovering export markets has been focused on Egypt. I, and a number of senior officials of my Department, travelled to Egypt last December and met the Egyptian authorities in Cairo in an effort to secure restoration of this market for Irish beef. The Taoiseach also met President Mubarak in Cairo and discussed this matter with him. Further visits to Egypt were undertaken by officials of my Department this year and I also took the opportunity last month to raise the matter with a visiting Egyptian ministerial delegation. Arising from ongoing contacts between my Department and the Egyptian authorities, it has been agreed that a delegation of Egyptian veterinary officials, headed by the chief veterinary officer in Cairo, will travel to Ireland in early August. I remain hopeful that following that visit the market will reopen. Another important market is Saudi Arabia and a senior veterinary official of my Department travelled last January to Riyadh to brief the authorities there on our BSE controls.

Additional Information.Senior officials of my Department are in Egypt and the Gulf region this week following up on earlier contacts with the relevant authorities there with a view to creating a framework for the re-opening of these markets.

I am satisfied that the Egyptian and Saudi authorities have a full appreciation of the low level of BSE in Ireland, the way in which it is dealt with and the effectiveness of the many layers of controls and checks that are in place. However, in many of our non-EU markets, of which Egypt is a good example, the situation has been exacerbated by adverse public opinion as a result of sensationalised media reporting on BSE and, in par ticular, on the BSE developments in those EU countries which encountered their first cases of BSE last year. Therefore, a return to normal trading and consumption patterns in the European Union will be a significant influence on these markets.

I am naturally keen to renew our trade in beef with Iran and my Department has had ongoing contact with the Iranian authorities both directly and through diplomatic channels on the question of veterinary certification. Iranian approval of the veterinary certificate was received in April of last year and my Department has kept in contact with the Iranian authorities since then to ensure that Ireland is included in the list of countries invited to tender for supplies of beef to Iran.

The situation with regard to Russia is that the authorities there have lifted the total ban on Irish beef imposed following the single outbreak of FMD in Ireland last March. The earlier Russian restrictions on six named counties remains in place. My Department is now finalising details of the veterinary certificate required by the Russian authorities with a view to the early resumption of this trade.

I welcome any effort to reopen these markets. Does the Minister accept that the recent decisions taken in Europe will have a major effect on commercial livestock producers? Does he also accept that because he agreed to severe reductions in production rates and in premia full-time commercial farmers will be worst affected? Will the Minister outline the position with regard to Libya? It has been a number of years since he indicated that market would reopen in October, but unfortunately that never happened.

Is the Minister in a position to indicate when live exports to Italy and Spain will proceed? These were much heralded and have been responsible for creating a strong trade in cattle at present. Will he indicate what the major intervention deal will mean in terms of the price farmers will obtain? It is good that there will be an additional 300,000 tonnes, but the price people will obtain is more important.

Every effort is being made to reopen the Egyptian market and we are hopeful because the veterinary authorities have agreed to visit Ireland, which is a good indication. An Assistant Secretary from the Department is in Cairo and a deputy veterinary officer is in the Gulf states. The authorities there advised us that they want it done at a technical level, not a political one. The problem is one of media perception rather than there being an actual problem. They say that progress will be made at a technical level. I am prepared to go there any time.

The difficulty with Spain is that the restrictions on transport and rest periods mean layerages must be used. There was foot and mouth at a layerage near Paris which resulted in cases in France. There were further outbreaks in the Netherlands when cattle travelled there from France. We are negotiating with the French authorities to allow live exports of calves and weanlings to Spain and Italy through their country. That is not easy because some French cases of the disease were traced back to Ireland and Britain. We are doing what we can to speed that up. Both Spain and Italy agreed to take Irish exports but the problem is getting them there.

Any farmer unhappy with the 90 limit must make a case to return to 180, which is provided for in the regulation. It is not a sine qua non that—

The Minister's time is up. We must move on to Question No. 19.

Will the Minister—

Deputy Crawford, we cannot go beyond the six minutes, as I informed other Deputies. The Chair is not responsible for the time.

On a point of order, could the Ceann Comhairle's office issue an advice to the Departments of Agriculture, Food and Rural Development, and particularly Environment and Local Government because they produce long essays for the Ministers to read out? It frequently happens that these Ministers are advised by the Chair that their time is up—

Hear, hear.

—and the rest of their reply must go into the record.

I was allowed one supplementary.

It stifles debate and is being done deliberately by people in those Departments.

I appreciate what Deputy Dukes says but the Minister has two minutes to reply. As soon as they are concluded, he does not continue his reply—

That is not good enough. I only got one supplementary.

Deputy Crawford, it is a matter for the committee on Dáil reform to decide the order of questions. The Chair merely implements that. The Minister resumed his seat as soon as the two minutes were concluded.

On a point of order, is it not the responsibility of officials in the Department of Agriculture, Food and Rural Development to be aware of Standing Orders in preparing answers to questions and respect them—

That is not a point of order and we are delaying further on the questions.

—in the length of the replies? They are not here to misinform the House.

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