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Dáil Éireann díospóireacht -
Tuesday, 6 Nov 2001

Vol. 543 No. 2

Private Members' Business. - Confidence in Minister: Motion.

I move:

That Dáil Éireann:

conscious of the vital importance of an adequate standard of infrastructure for the modern Irish economy in order to meet the commercial and social needs of the country and recognising the current major structural deficits across a range of semi-State companies in which the Minister for Public Enterprise is the main shareholder and for which she has direct responsibility, deplores:

–her failure to convince her colleagues of the short-term nature of Aer Lingus's difficulties, the special case for direct State aid for the company and her agreement to the shedding of 2,026 jobs which will irreparably weaken the national airline;

–her failure to provide the necessary resources to ensure Iarnród Éireann provides a reliable and efficient train service for passengers;

–her failure to ensure Iarnród Éireann freight facilities are properly planned and marketed with a view to shifting freight from road to rail leading to a situation where Iarnród Éireann is planning to lay off 300 of its 600 full-time freight workforce;

–her failure to ensure that, apart from very restricted park-and-ride facilities, the long promised traffic relief measures to ease Dublin traffic chaos are put in place;

–her failure to ensure the long-promised integrated ticketing is introduced;

–her decision to delay approval of Luas with the result that it will be at least 2005 before the new light rail transport system is commissioned;

–her failure to ensure ESB power generation and grid capacity are developed and upgraded which is causing serious supply difficulties for both commercial and domestic consumers;

–her failure to ensure the ESB will be allowed to submit a preliminary bid for the purchase of eight power supply companies in Poland having spent £3 million in the preparation of the bid and which has caused significant damage to the reputation of the ESB internationally;

–her mismanagement of the Eircom floatation which has left almost 500,000 shareholders incurring considerable losses;

–her failure to put in place the necessary regulatory regime in the electricity and telecom sectors which has led directly to supply problems and companies abandoning their plans to enter these markets;

–her failure to ensure CO*2 emissions are kept within the Kyoto Protocol guidelines;

–her Department's failure to sustain the campaign against Sellafield initiated by the previous Government;

–her failure to produce a coherent strategy for the usage of natural gas from the Corrib gas field;

–her failure to ensure efficient passenger services at Dublin Airport;

–her failure to insist on the delivery of broadband services to the regions which militates against the Government's so-called policy of job regionalisation,

and calls on the Taoiseach to remove the Minister for Public Enterprise from her current office.

I wish to share my time with Deputies Quinn and Sargent. It gives me no satisfaction that the immediate target of our debate this evening is the Minister for Public Enterprise, Deputy O'Rourke. I have no hesitation in beginning my remarks by acknowledging that she is a member of an Irish political family which has given three generations of service to the State.

This motion deals with mismanagement and incompetence across a number of areas for which the Minister for Public Enterprise has primary responsibility. However, the real responsibility for the incompetence and mismanagement goes far beyond her. It starts and ends with the Taoiseach. He has presided over it. He has been prepared to do nothing about it, even when confronted with the disastrous or near collapse of the State sponsored companies for which the Minister has responsibility. The responsibility is also shared by the Government as a whole which has not only tolerated the mismanagement and incompetence in the Department of Public Enterprise, but has, by its actions and inaction, contributed to it.

It is difficult to believe now, but there were days when the very mention of State sponsored companies such as Aer Lingus, CIE and Aer Rianta evoked a sense of pride and achievement among Irish people at home and abroad. That sense of pride, sadly, has gone. The sense of achievement is gone. They are gone, not because of the workers who continue to show commitment and dedication even when the odds are stacked against them, but all has been lost because of Government incompetence and mismanagement. The Government's shareholder representative is the Minister for Public Enterprise. Never has a Minister been more inappropriately titled. She has stifled enterprise, meddled where she did not belong, failed to give direction when appropriate and floundered, flustered and blustered when faced with criticisms of her performance.

The mismanagement and incompetence have taken many forms. The Minister has been indecisive, failed to deliver, presided over major cost overruns, sometimes managed to achieve the exact opposite to what she intended, served sectional interests and ignored the future while pandering to short-term needs. However, even she could not have achieved all this on her own. She has had a massive helping hand from the Taoiseach, the Minister for Finance and the Tánaiste and Minister for Enterprise, Trade and Employment.

Is it not somewhat bizarre that the Government has, for the first time in the history of the State, two Ministers whose titles include the word "Enterprise", one of whom deals with enterprise, the other with public enterprise? Yet, never has a Government been less enterprising. Never has economic success been so incompetently managed. This incompetent Government has squandered our boom.

Let me look briefly at a selection of the disasters over which the Minister has presided. I want to deal with Aer Lingus, Aer Rianta, Luas and the railways. I begin with Aer Lingus whose very future as a national airline is now threatened. With the collapse of Swissair and Sabena we see how quickly and dramatically things can change in the aviation industry. The problems of Aer Lingus, however, did not begin on 11 September, nor did they begin with the outbreak of foot and mouth disease earlier this year. The problems of Aer Lingus began when the Minister took up her appointment almost four years and six months ago.

Let us remember the situation she inherited. Passenger numbers in and out of Ireland were never higher, Aer Lingus was massively profitable and the then Minister, Deputy Alan Dukes, mandated its board to explore the possibilities of the airline entering a strategic alliance, with or without the transfer of equity, and submit proposals to the Minister as shareholder. What did the Minister for Public Enterprise do? She had no consistent or clear policy. At various stages she favoured strategic alliances, the sale of the entire Government shareholding and the sale of less than 50% of the Government shareholding. She also flip-flopped on Government aid. Initially it was ruled out; then it was ruled in, provided the European Union agreed. She came to the House and asked us to enact the Aer Lingus Bill, 2000, which provided the legislative framework for an initial public offering. She appointed the necessary advisers and committed the Government to the same high fees she had already paid in the case of Eircom, but she wrecked any real possibility of a successful IPO by saying that she would, "follow the Eircom model", a model which had already left almost 500,000 Irish people suffering serious financial loss. Did she seriously believe that anyone would ever again invest their hard earned money in anything in which she was involved after that disaster?

Perhaps the most humiliating episode in the sorry Aer Lingus saga was the attempt made by the Minister, and personally by the Taoiseach, to persuade the European Commission to be helpful. I cannot recall any occasion since we joined the European Union almost 30 years ago where an Irish approach was so glaringly and decisively rejected. This can hardly have come as a huge surprise when one remembers how arrogantly and insensitively the Minister for Finance, with the backing of the Taoiseach and the Tánaiste, gave Brussels the two fingers when it sought to bring us into line with European economic policy. Why should Brussels play ball on any issue with an Irish Government which so publicly, repeatedly and arrogantly refused to co-operate on overall economic policy?

Let us also remember the damage done to our reputation in Europe by the extraordinary cronyism in attempting to appoint Mr. Hugh O'Flaherty to a European institution. The Tánaiste may think that nobody would remember that after a few weeks, as she once infamously said. The powers that be in Brussels still remember it and Ireland continues to pay the price.

The failure of Aer Lingus is not simply a failure on the part of the Minister, Deputy O'Rourke. It is a failure on the part of the Taoiseach, the Tánaiste and the Minister for Finance. It is a stark illustration of Government incompetence and mismanagement. So much for Aer Lingus.

Let us look briefly at Aer Rianta. Anyone who has used Dublin Airport recently will understand why it has been ranked number 39 of 48 airports surveyed by the International Air Transport Association. What did the Minister set out to do when she was appointed? She said she wanted to preside over the development of Dublin Airport so that it would become a first class facility with the potential to become a European hub airport. In the four and a half years that she has been in office, she has presided over a slide into chaos and Aer Rianta is in dispute with most of its customers. It does not know whether the Minister will allow competition at the airport. It does not know whether she will allow a new terminal to be built by someone other than Aer Rianta. In general, it is facing the same uncertainty that has brought Aer Lingus to its knees.

I will give a small but extraordinary example of Aer Rianta's current activities outside Dublin. For many years, Aer Rianta has provided catering for the castles in County Clare, whose flagship is Bunratty Castle. These banquets have been, and should be for the future, one of the main tourist attractions in the mid-west, especially for the American market, but what happens when the cold winds blow through tourism, particularly from the United States? Aer Rianta announces that it is pulling out of the catering contract by the end of the year and the castles will have to find somebody else to do the job. This was a profitable activity from which Aer Rianta made £250,000 a year. This is like bowing to some kind of ideological god in the consultancy world who says that Aer Rianta should pull out of all core activity. Since Deputy Healy-Rae stopped it from pulling out of the hotels in Parknasilla, Killarney and elsewhere, it decided to pull out of catering at Bunratty Castle, despite making a profit.

This is Aer Rianta as presided over by Fianna Fáil which has always said that it does not want to give foreign airlines too much access to Shannon Airport because they are inclined to reduce or eliminate their services when times get bad. What happens now, however, when times are bad? Aer Rianta, of which the Government is the sole shareholder, decides to pull out of the major tourism activity in the region. How can the Government expect the private sector to maintain the tourism sector if the first thing it does when things get rough is pull out of profitable enterprises? If the Minister has any interest in the mid-west, she should do something about this issue before it is too late.

When the rainbow Government left office in June 1997, there was a ready-to-roll, fully costed and EU supported plan for Luas. If it had been followed, the hard-pressed people of Dublin would now be travelling on the Luas system. A similar scheme in Montpellier in France, the planning for which started at the same time as Dublin, is already up and running. The people of that French city can now travel to and from work on their light rail system. The Minister, however, could not leave well enough alone. For no reason, other than it was a rainbow Government project, she decided that it had to be reviewed, looked at by consultants and, in her own memorable term, "re-energised". The end result is plain for all to see. The only yard of track laid after four and a half years has been the toy track on Merrion Square, the latest political gimmick by a desperate Government. In the process, incidentally, hundreds of people were deprived of parking spaces and traffic congestion in the area has increased. Thank God it is being removed today. If the Minister wants to play with toy trains, she should invest in a good set and play with them at home, or write to Santa Claus.

Meanwhile, we have no Luas and Dublin's gridlock gets worse every day. This is another example of incompetence and mismanagement by the Government, in particular, by the Minister.

In 1997, the Fianna Fáil manifesto and the subsequent joint Fianna Fáil-Progressive Democrats programme for Government were very specific. They undertook to develop high-speed inter-city rail services and to introduce integrated ticketing between bus, DART, rail and Luas in the Dublin area.

That is a good trick.

This was not just the Fianna Fáil manifesto, we are used to whoppers in that, it was transferred to the programme for Government. It also undertook to expand rail services in Cork by re-opening the Cork-Midleton-Youghal line, adding new commuter stations on the north side of Cork, and lastly to provide a rail link to Dublin Airport as a matter of extreme urgency. These commitments were made by the Government four and a half years ago when it took office, but not one of them has been honoured. As the Government prepares to face the electorate, the commitments now seem so remote that they are the subject of ridicule.

The quality, reliability and popularity of rail transport have declined over the past four years. The Government has produced five separate blueprints for a new transport system for the Dublin area, but no action. It is typical of the Government. Commuters criticise the traffic problems in voxpops on "Morning Ireland", so a blueprint is produced. When it recurs six months later the Government says, "Let's have another blueprint". When the issue is raised in the Dáil, the Minister goes to Cabinet and we have another blueprint. We have had five transport blueprints for Dublin in the lifetime of the Government.

Because of the sensitive personal issues involved, I will refrain from going into detail of the Minister's handling, in her capacity as shareholder representative, of the relationship with CIE.

Just as well.

I will confine myself to saying that, yet again, we have witnessed a most extraordinary example of Government mismanagement and incompetence. The fault lies not just with the Minister for Public Enterprise but with the Taoiseach, the Tánaiste, the Minister for Finance and the Government as a whole. What I have talked about represents lamentable failure, incompetence and mismanagement. Above all, however, it represents a failure of leadership because at the end of the day, the buck stops with the Taoiseach. The Taoiseach is not a foolish man. He knows there has been incompetence on a massive scale but he has failed to deal with it and must now face the consequences either in this House or at the forthcoming general election.

Deputy Noonan got two claps. I noticed the backbenchers were very quiet.

Despite the public's perception about the adversarial nature of politics, motions of no confidence in Ministers are a rare enough occurrence. Motions of no confidence signed by the three largest Opposition parties are rarer still, but on this occasion the time has come to say stop. The stakes are too high to allow the Minister to continue in office. Of course, the Minister, Deputy O'Rourke, is not fully responsible for her own woes. She serves as Minister for Public Enterprise in a Government that is ideologically hostile to public enterprise. Her charge was to render her Department redundant but thankfully in that she has failed too.

In fairness to her, the Minister has faced a number of particular difficulties. She serves with a Taoiseach more interested in having his photo taken with the Luas than in getting it up and running on the streets of Dublin. The Taoiseach is largely responsible for the Minister's woes. He has primary responsibility for implementation of the national development plan. His indifference in doing the work and in driving the projects along, making enemies and friends in the process, is not inconsiderable. He has handed over the levers of power in the Government to the ideological clique of the Ministers, Deputies McCreevy and Harney, and the Attorney General, Mr. McDowell.

All this, however, cannot excuse the Minister, Deputy O'Rourke, who has been, sadly, out of her depth for some time. Her failure to deliver even a modicum of improvement, particularly in the area of transport is not just impacting upon the quality of the lives of all our citizens, it is also undermining our capacity for future economic growth and sustained competitiveness. In the future we may all be the poorer for the Minister's failures.

It is a testament to the Minister's failure, for example, that the Labour Party website is being hosted from the United States, not Westport as was originally the case, due to our growing infrastructural deficit. This Government has made great play of its support for regional development. Schemes and formulas have been concocted to ensure maximum economic support from Brussels but when it comes to the simple task of delivering the goods at home, the Minister and this Government are simply not up to it. In the area of ensuring adequate broadband development on a nationwide basis, the failure has been total.

Nonetheless, it is fair to say that the handling of the crisis in Aer Lingus represents the straw that has broken the camel's back for the Opposition in respect of this particular Minister's record. On this issue, in particular, the Government's record has been shameful. It has not just been incompetent, it has been dishonest and deeply unfair to the 2,000 plus workers whose jobs are on the line at the airline.

The truth is that the Government is conspiring to push the airline to the brink of collapse. Since the crisis in Aer Lingus broke it has done nothing really effective to assist the company. In all of this the Minister for Public Enterprise, Deputy O'Rourke, has been the Taoiseach's patsy. The crisis in Aer Lingus is not being treated as a potential disaster for north County Dublin and Limerick but as a means to pursue the Government's chosen policy of offloading the airline. So intent is the Government on offloading the airline that it is quite prepared to make a bogeyman of the European Commission and the European Union to do so.

The State cannot invest in this airline we are told because the European Union will not let us. We cannot secure decent redundancy packages for workers who may have to leave the company because the European Commission will not let us. The European Union is to be this Government's fall guy for its failure to tackle the problems at Aer Lingus. It is a lie and there is no other way of putting it. Ireland has no formal application of any kind to invest in Aer Lingus before the European Commission. We are not looking for permission to invest in a viable airline. Europe exists solely as the Government's smokescreen for doing absolutely nothing, not yet anyway.

When journalists inquire about what is going on they are told by the Government that the issue of State aid is not entirely dead. They are told that discussions are ongoing and that the Com mission's so called decision on State aid is final, for now at least. On what basis are discussions ongoing? Why would the Government be discussing something it claims the European Commission has already refused? Could it be that the Government wants to sap any remaining morale in the Aer Lingus workforce before seeking to pull a rabbit out of the hat? I fear that might be the case. It is very cynical but we have come to expect that kind of thing.

We are being told of course that the Commission has decided on a narrow interpretation of Article 87 by confining aid to airlines arising from the atrocities of 11 September to just flights cancelled directly as a result of it for the four days immediately following the atrocity. This is true but in my view the Commission is wrong and the Government should legally challenge this decision. What we have got instead is huffing and puffing not action.

The State, as shareholder in Aer Lingus, is entitled to invest in a viable Aer Lingus. I believe the European Commission would be open to considering such a plan but the Commission cannot consider what it has not got before it and it is an act of national sabotage for the Government to pretend that all approaches have been explored exhaustively.

The reality is that the Government seems more comfortable talking tough with Aer Lingus workers than it is with Europe and that is no accident. Government spin doctors continue to keep the workers and their representatives under pressure with stories about the airline's closure. At a time of absolute crisis for thousands of Aer Lingus workers the Taoiseach who talks a great game about social partnership is prepared to abandon any semblance of it to adopt the tactics of the bully boy. Despite the protestations to the contrary Michael O'Leary clearly has some admirers in this Government.

It is difficult to fathom who exactly is behind the Government's agenda. It may be the Minister, it may not. It is difficult to imagine that she would be behind her personal political humiliation of ruling the privatisation of Aer Lingus out one week and then being forced to publicly announce it the following week. If the Minister is not directly at fault, she is clearly not capable of taking on the culprits and consequently her continuation in office is the greatest threat to the long-term viability of Aer Lingus. On this issue and this issue alone, a Cheann Comhairle, the Minister, Deputy O'Rourke, should do the decent thing and resign from office.

Her other failures stand as a checklist of some of the greatest problems facing our society. Her unveiling of a Luas carriage on Sunday last stands as a sick joke on the people of Dublin. Nothing was more pathetic than the reality of it and nothing was more pathetic than the Minister's speech and the fact that the Taoiseach had to hide behind the cabin and not come out for the photo opportunity so elaborately prepared for him.

Her failure to drive this project, or any alternative, since coming to office is at the heart of Dublin's transport chaos. As Minister she has stood idly by while Dublin's problems have been transported to every urban centre in the country. As Deputy Noonan said, there was a solution on her desk when she came into office but she refused, for whatever reason, to activate that and through interference, messing and meddling she has successfully delayed the implementation of the Luas project that is so needed in this city.

Her one size fits all solution – privatisation – is to be extended to our State bus companies as well. Thankfully it has not happened. It would appear that once this Minister has cast a cloud of uncertainty over the future of a semi-State company she is then happy to disengage. She is intent on applying the Aer Lingus formula to other semi-State companies, such as the Great Southern Hotels, possibly with the same effect.

Her obsession with flotations, one would think, might have been diminished by her experiences at Telecom. In fact, if there is one thing this Government is doing well it is using taxpayers' money to sell itself and its plans. At the moment taxpayers' money is being used to sell under-performing Ministers to boost their re-election plans. Three years ago it was used to sell the Telecom flotation. For those in the know, the get in and get out quick brigade, this was manna from heaven, money for those who already had it – another thing this Government excels at. For the rest it was a disaster and their final humiliation is dealing with a forced fire sale of their shares to Valentia.

This motion sets out 15 failures, another 15 failures of a Government Minister. All of them are critical to our future economic prosperity. It will be the sad legacy of this Government that the four most prosperous years in the history of the State have coincided with its most under-achieving Government. But in terms of under-achievement, the Minister for Public Enterprise has been to the fore. In fact, she has excelled herself. The public simply cannot afford to see her continue in office. Aer Lingus certainly cannot afford to see her continue in office.

I concede that the motion before the House is an optimistic one. It calls on the Taoiseach to take a decision in the national interest. In his four and a half years in office, and despite being faced with many similar questions, it is a challenge he has never risen to.

This three party motion supported by the Green Party, Comhaontas Glas, is timely. I acknowledge that the Minister, Deputy O'Rourke, is, from a personal point of view, a very charming person. This is certainly not a personalised attack so there is no room for charm in the contributions. It is both an objective assessment but also a very subjective one.

I am one of the unfortunate suburban rail passengers who daily witness fainting on our suburban trains. It is a phenomenon unique to our rail system that passengers do not fall when they faint because they do not have room to do so. Windows on suburban trains are often locked, probably because trains stand outside overnight. There is an inhumane side to the running of our public transport system for which the Minister must take responsibility.

When discussions on the national development plan began in 1998 the Minister for Public Enterprise said we were heralding a golden age of rail. We have waited with bated breath for this to come about. Meanwhile, the National Roads Authority, realising that the Minister and CIE were asleep, has managed to bag 750 kilometres of new motorway while the Minister boasts a mere 23 kilometres of railway, some of it a sham public relations stunt, and some safety work. Our railways are experiencing a continual sunset, not a golden age. As the Kingscourt line is now closed, we have a net loss of railway.

With Treasury Holdings, Córas Iompair Éireann owns land at Spencer Dock, but so little is its interest in public transport that it failed to include a public transport link in its proposed development. The new plans coming forward for a rail link from Cork through Ennis and Galway to Derry, with a spur to Shannon, make wonderful public relations, but the money to finance these proposals has passed us by and we are left with the hollow ring of PR announcements and without delivery on the ground.

The platform for change plan needs an additional £4.3 billion. Has the Department of Public Enterprise received a commitment for this money and from where will it come? Are we to repeat the charade of last Sunday's Luas photo opportunity again and again? We are facing the prospect of a public transport system which moves at walking pace.

CIE's practices do not come up to international standards. Its passenger charter declares that a train is not considered late if it arrives within 15 minutes of the published time. Is this an acceptable standard?

Well respected economists writing in business journals not averse to privatisation have warned the Government to think again before trusting our transport system to private enterprise. A leading economist says the latest turn in the Eircom saga highlights the "blatant stupidity of the market liberalisation and privatisation pursued by successive Governments". The first mistake was to issue the initial mobile phone licence at the ludicrously low price of £15 million. This was granted to Denis O'Brien's Esat group and was undoubtedly a licence to print money. That licence accounted for a large proportion of the £2 billion plus paid by BT for the Esat group in early 2000. The mistake has been repeated with the issue of further mobile phone licences. It appears that when the Minister cannot make something work her solution is to privatise it. By following this policy she merely makes a bad situation worse.

In the energy sector many despair of the Minister's lack of imagination and planning with regard to the energy needs of the country. The Irish Wind Energy Assocation, which depends on the Minister for regulations to allow it to develop to its full potential, has stated that Ireland could generate 25% of its electricity from wind with no increase in electricity prices to the consumer. If this was done, there would be wind turbines on only 0.5% of the country, assuming no offshore development which has huge potential in itself. Thousands of new jobs would be created in manufacturing and research and we would be able to avoid large impending EU pollution penalties. We urgently need a proper national plan to develop this resource. The Minister must realise that the work being done in the development of wind energy falls far short of what is needed. It is her responsibility to ensure we do not have further shortages of energy as we approach winter.

Is it because of local political considerations that the Minister appears to have a fixation with peat extraction and peat fired generating stations? This is a short-term and costly policy, particularly when wind energy is being neglected. In 1999 a judgment was made against Ireland regarding peat extraction. The Minister claims to be law abiding with regard to EU rules as they apply to Aer Lingus, but is she happy that Bord na Móna continues to breach the 1999 judgment by extracting an area greater than 50 hectares without an environmental impact study? It increases the level of anger among workers in Aer Lingus to hear that the Minister is happy to allow breaches of EU law in another area. That anger is deepened by her singular failure to drive home the case for exceptional State aid for Aer Lingus, which is allowed for under EU rules. As a transatlantic air service, Aer Lingus has a particular case. It is clear to me and to workers in Aer Lingus, many of whom are in my constituency of Dublin North, that the Minister is not pursuing this case to the extent possible. She must take legal action and be defiant in her approach to the European Commission.

Workers in other export industries are also angry and fearful at the failure of the Government to make a stand. The collapse of Aer Lingus would affect the export capacity of businesses located in Ireland which depend on transatlantic flights out of Dublin and Shannon.

I do not focus merely on the responsibilities of the Minister for Public Enterprise. I also sound a clear warning that unless the Minister either changes radically or moves on, we will be left with a litany of disasters in the Department of Public Enterprise with problems in many companies in the public and private sectors. The Aer Lingus crisis is endangering the jobs of employees in various companies who have reason to be very afraid while the Minister remains in office. This is a serious motion and its outcome is important for many.

Mrs. O'Rourke: I move amendment No. 1:

To delete all words after "Dáil Éireann" and substitute the following:

"commends the Minister for Public Enterprise on her substantial record of achievement in building a secure platform for sustainable development in each of the pivotal infrastructural sectors of transport, energy and communications over the past four years and in particular:

–notes the progress being made to ensure Aer Lingus has a secure future and the Government's efforts to maintain the maximum number of sustainable jobs;

–notes the significant investment in new facilities at the State airports and in financial support for the regional airports over the past four years;

–commends the Minister for ensuring the future of the railway network after so many years of low investment and the securing of Government approval for a five year £430 million railway safety programme;

–notes the unprecedented levels of capital and current funding for public transport;

–welcomes the improvements to Dublin public transport, including the upgrading and extension of the DART system and the introduction of almost three hundred new buses in recent years;

–notes that Luas has obtained light railway orders for its core routes in west and south Dublin and that construction is under way and on schedule for completion by the stated target date of October 2003;

–notes the appointment of the telecommunications regulator by the previous rainbow coalition Government and the appointment of electricity and aviation regulators by this Government;

–notes that, as a result of EU directives and national legislation, power generation is a fully liberalised activity licensed by the Commission for Electricity Regulation;

–notes that an investment programme of record proportions in the transmission grid is under way and will bring the electricity infrastructure up to international standards;

–welcomes the contribution that developments in sustainable energy are making to minimising CO*2 emissions;

–recognises the Minister's strong commitment in implementing the Government's campaign for bringing about the closure of Sellafield and supports the Government's current legal actions against the UK Government in regard to the Sellafield MOX plant;

–welcomes the unprecedented level of investment in natural gas infrastructure that will bring both Corrib and imported gas to many new areas of the country as well as to existing customers;

–notes that full liberalisation of the telecommunications market was achieved by 1999, ahead of target, and

–welcomes the initiatives undertaken by the Minister for Public Enterprise in the National Development Plan 2000-2006 and in promoting the development of broadband communications networks in the regions.

I thank the Opposition for their contribution to this motion but I am sorry that Deputy Noonan has left the Chamber. I wish to share my time with the Minister of State at the Department of Education and Science, Deputy O'Dea. I trust that is in order.

There was an era when Private Members' time in this House was used as a vehicle to advance the Opposition's policy platform. That was when the time was used to debate Private Members' Bills or policies drafted and published by the Opposition, but that time has long gone. For Private Members' time to be used constructively it is necessary to have an Opposition with something constructive to contribute. This is not such an Opposition. It is an Opposition without courage or vision, it is indolent and led by lazy leaders. It is a soft option Opposition which is prepared to criticise the proposals of others but has no policy of its own.

Tonight the Opposition is unable to suggest solutions and engages in unfocused criticism. I do not know whether the lack of motivation and focus in Fine Gael is the result of their in-fighting and internal intrigue or disillusionment and despair, but it is palpable. If Fine Gael spent half as much time developing policies as it did soliciting and concealing offshore donations and evading tax, lazy motions like this would never see the light of day. Deputy Noonan is inert, inactive and unable. He appears to have exhausted himself in the course of the relentless whispering campaign he conducted against his former leader. For a man so active and agile while in the shadows, it is sad to see his sloth in sunlight. He was lively when he was plotting to get rid of Deputy John Bruton and sacking the old front bench.

That is a personal attack; the Minister should stick to the issues.

But when he got the job he became listless and lazy. It is a curious logic – perhaps unique to Fine Gael – that Deputy Bruton had to go because he was unpopular, but Deputy Noonan must stay because he is more unpopular. From the Government benches it is possible to see beyond Deputy Noonan. It is possible to see the cringing faces of the newly demoted – and those of the yet to be promoted – as he unleashes yet another tortured cliché. It is possible to see the wasted generations of Fine Gael who still wonder why it is 19 years since the people chose Fine Gael to lead a Government after a general election. The answer is slowly dawning – the answer is Deputy Noonan. The people have had enough of the politics of finger-pointing, the politics of carping criticism and the politics of relentless negativism. They want a Government which is united and decisive. Deputy Noonan will never lead such a Government.

The Fine Gael Leader is no more than a collection of clichés which are worn, tired and tortured. Tonight he has called for my resignation. I will be here long after those who now sit behind and whisper about Deputy Noonan have sent him off. This motion is as predictable as it is lazy. It is a product of the feet-on the-desk and the head back school of politics. It is a symptom of "the anything will do because we're going to give the same speech anyway" approach. It comes from parties with nothing new to say who tonight have formed a lazy alliance in the hope that it passes for coherent opposition.

The leadership of Fine Gael is lazy, but at least they have a leader. That is more than can be said for the Labour Party. It is utterly leaderless. Nobody knows what their leader stands for but everybody knows what he is against.

Is the Minister going to speak about public enterprise at all?

They are against everything. It is a party which has confused initiative with indignation and gets indignant about everything. I have news for Deputy Quinn – there is more to politics than turning red and making one's eyes bulge.

The Minister should get back into her bath and cool off.

Occasionally he might consider lowering the mask of mock indignation, dropping the facade of fury and getting real. Deputy Quinn persistently seeks to act out his political life as a misplaced character from "Noddy gets Narky" and I, for one, have had enough.

Deputy Stagg wishes to raise a point of order, what is it?

Is it proper for the Minister to deal with everything except the motion—

That is not a point of order. The Deputy will resume his seat.

I have had enough of Deputy Quinn's indignant quivering, enough of his false fury, enough of his bulging bluster. It is time for him to either stand for something or stand aside. The Labour Members can give it but they cannot take it.

To finalise this ragbag of Opposition, this tripartite of trite, we have their strange bedfellows – the Green Party. This party's most momentous decision in its existence has been to finally conclude that it might be a good idea to have a leader. But Deputy Sargent will soon realise that there is more to being a leader than simply putting the name plate on the door, much more to being an environmentalist than retaining a worried frown—

That is a very personal remark.

There is much more to being a political party than protesting about everything – as we saw last Sunday in Merrion Square – and offering nothing constructive in return.

The Minister was not listening then.

It would be laughable if it were not so serious. This modesty of mediocrity, which has neither policies nor plans is grandly termed the Opposition. The dunce's cap fits. We know what they are opposed to but of what are they in favour? What is their vision of the future? More importantly, how would they achieve their goals if they could focus for even a minute on the goalposts? Does anyone really believe that an Opposition consisting of the three amigos could provide even one coherent policy?

I think Deputy O'Dea has written this speech.

What this trio are about today is the politics of the breakfast cereal. The solutions are easy and fast – just add milk. How else could Snap, Crackle and Pop have managed to become leaders of their own parties?

I stand here on my record as Minister for Public Enterprise. The Department teams and my colleagues have worked tirelessly in delivering sustainable public enterprise.

Will there be any mention of Aer Lingus?

Or the buses.

What is Deputy Howlin's plan? Does he intend to hit the Commission in the face?

I have attached the real record of progress across the divisions in my Department. If there is one thing I hate it is cowardice. Deputies Noonan and Quinn hightailed it out of Dáil Éireann tonight because they could not bear to hear the truth about themselves. I now formally challenge the three Opposition Leaders, or their party spokespersons, to debate my record in office in any forum. I could spend hours going through all the detail but I will pinpoint a number of areas where this Government and my Department have made a real and enduring difference since 1997.

The Government has spent £1.536 billion on improving public transport. Government subvention to CIE has risen by 60% since 1996; the former Minister for Finance, Deputy Quinn, progressively reduced the subvention in his three budgets. Government capital expenditure on public transport has risen by almost 700%—

The Minister should not forget about the Luas.

—38 new DART carriages have been delivered and 20 new diesel railcars are in operation. The full Luas fleet of 40 trams are on the way. Dublin Bus has had 375 new buses delivered up until last year – the previous Government did not purchase even one bus in three years – and a further 141 buses are on the way between now and next year. Bus Éireann has had 148 new buses delivered with an additional 70 this year. Deputy Sargent should note that 229 miles of rail track have been renewed costing £500 million.

Renewed, not built.

Fine Gael and Labour left the railway system in a criminal state. Luas will commence in 2003, metro planning proposals are due to reach Government before Christmas.

As regards broadband, £107 million has been provided to bring broadband to the regions which will leverage an additional £300 million from the private sector. The Government provided £60 million to encourage the global crossing international connectivity project to Ireland. Planning is well advanced on the Atlantic broadband corridor which will provide high speed links down the western seaboard between Donegal and Cork.

The Minister skipped Luas.

The ESB and Eirgrid are to spend over £2 billion on improving electricity distribution and transmissions. Some 31% of the electricity market has been opened to competition with a further 40% opening next February, followed by full opening in February 2005. Markets for green electricity and combined heat and power – CHP – plants have been fully liberalised. Two major power plants providing 800 megawatts of power will come on stream in the first half of next year. Spending so far on sustainable energy projects is in excess of £15 million. The Commission for Electricity Regulation and Eirgrid have been established. The Government has finalised legal actions under the Law of the Sea and the OSPAR Convention against Sellafield.

About time.

There have been major extensions of the gas network from Dublin to Galway and Limerick and from Mayo to Galway.

What about the south-east?

The construction of a second gas interconnector with Scotland is under way. On the BBC tonight Mark Durkan said the proudest moment of his political career so far was when we signed the deal for an all-Ireland gas market during our visit to Belfast and Newry. Of course, outside my party, no one in the House will recognise that.

I want to discuss Aer Lingus because I have not heard one coherent plan from the Opposition for the company.

Deputy O'Rourke is the Minister in charge of Aer Lingus.

Apart from zombies we are all supposed to think.

(Interruptions.)

The Minister, without interruption.

The Government is totally focused on the task of ensuring the future of Aer Lingus. A sum of £261 million has been invested in State airports in Cork, Shannon and Dublin. Before coming to the House, I checked a fact. As Minister for Finance, Deputy Quinn kept the plans for Aer Lingus on his desk for 14 months before releasing them in 1995-96.

What plans? The Minister's remark is rubbish. She plans to privatise Aer Lingus.

The Government has established the Independent Commission for Aviation Regulation.

(Interruptions.)

Some £37 million has been invested in improved air navigation facilities and services and a further £20 million has been allocated to support regional air services since 1997.

Deputy Quinn used the word "lies" without correction by the Chair. I would use instead the word "untruth". Certain untruths have been spoken here and it is my duty to correct them. Deputies Noonan and Quinn said Luas was ready to roll when we took office. Not a single consultation between Luas and Judge O'Leary had taken place at that point.

That is not true. The consultation process was completed.

The Minister, without interruption. The Deputy will have his chance to contribute.

(Interruptions.)

Order, please.

Deputy Stagg will find his tongue somewhere tonight. He should wait for his wish and give me a chance to have my say. I did not interrupt when untruths were spoken earlier by several Deputies.

Yes, she did.

I bided my tongue, for all the thanks I got. The railway tracks bequeathed to me were in a criminal state. Nothing was more pathetic than the Labour Party last Sunday. The Luas is not for them or us, but for the people of Dublin.

(Interruptions.)

The Minister, without interruption.

The most interesting comment came tonight from Deputy Noonan who said he would not talk about CIE. I guess he made this odd remark out of a sense of probity and ethics and against the backdrop of the mini-CTC inquiry – Deputy Jim Higgins deserves his fair dues for this excellent performance – but I could not quite grasp what Deputy Noonan was getting at. I will check the record tomorrow. He would not discuss CIE for personal reasons, he said. Perhaps he will inform us of these.

What innuendo is the Minister planting now?

My colleague, Deputy O'Dea, will take over. We will hear how well he speaks and what a wonderful job he makes of his presentation. Of all the tasks undertaken by the rainbow coalition, the most heinous and controversial was the one which led to the greatest malaise in Irish life, the appointment of Michael Lowry, Deputy Bruton's best friend, to the job of Minister for Transport, Energy and Communications.

Says Charlie's angel.

The Minister should tell us about Carysfort.

We now know that the cool, clean hero who saw cabals and people waiting to attack him around every corner was at the centre of those very cabals himself. For two years of the last Government he was in charge of transport, energy and communications. The contribution of the Opposition demonstrates that it has a neck. Deputies Quinn and Noonan have done likewise by leaving the Chamber when they knew I would confront them with truths. I challenge both Deputies or, indeed, Deputy Jim Higgins or Deputy Stagg to a public debate, if they are given permission.

One could sell tickets for that.

I place before the House the position I have prepared for the programme for Government. I am also ready for the general election.

The Minister should inform Senator Cassidy of that fact.

I challenge the Deputies to a debate with me.

The Minister for Public Enterprise has performed marvellously. I feel very humble taking over. I am delighted, having listened to the contributions from the Opposition benches, to discover that the Minister is not responsible for the abduction of Shergar or the twin towers fiasco.

The Minister of State should withdraw that remark.

Listening to Deputies Noonan and Quinn, however, the Minister appears to be responsible for just about everything else. I made a note of what they said. Apparently Deputy O'Rourke is responsible for the failure of every train that does not arrive exactly on time and the fact that sometimes the train windows are not closed at night. She will be pleased to hear that, according to Deputy Sargent, she is also responsible for failure to regulate the wind.

The crisis in Aer Lingus has provided yet another insight into the sheer ineptitude of Fine Gael and Labour, not that the workers of the once proud ICI, Irish Steel or Irish Shipping need—

On a point of order—

Deputy Stanton, on a point of order.

I ask the Minister of State to withdraw the remark on the twin towers fiasco.

That is not a point of order.

I will deal with that, a Cheann Comhairle.

(Interruptions.)

The Minister of State, without interruption.

In recent weeks we have seen the leader of Fine Gael, Deputy Noonan, rush to meet workers at Shannon Airport, his sidekick in the pantomime that is Fine Gael, Deputy Jim Mitchell, lead a delegation to EU headquarters to discuss the crisis and my old friend, Deputy Owen, conduct an international search for what she called "serious heads" to find a way around the problems faced by Aer Lingus. Telling people what they want to hear is one thing, but one would expect the Opposition to at least get the story straight.

This is coming from the taxi licence man.

The issue before last of The Clare Champion made most interesting reading. In it, Deputy Noonan spelt out his support for Shannon Airport. He was at pains to point out that he had intimate knowledge of the importance of the airport to our region. So intimate was this knowledge that the Fine Gael MEP for Connacht-Ulster, Joe McCartan, was at the same time making a strong case in Strasbourg for scrapping the Shannon stopover, stating that the liberalisation of transatlantic services would benefit the economy of the west. We should not be too despondent. I am sure Deputy Jim Mitchell's delegation to EU headquarters has been equally impressive in convincing Aer Lingus workers that saying one thing in the Dáil and on the doorsteps of Dublin North and another in Strasbourg—

(Interruptions.)

Order, please.

—is the best way to give the Government a chance to broker a deal with the European Union before upping the ante politically. I am sure the same workers will be heartened to know that Fine Gael's Deputy Richard Bruton was fighting their corner at the EU table as part of the Mitchell-led delegation. His record in selling Irish Steel, the country's only steel plant, in 1996 for the princely sum of £1 will no doubt have imbued them with confidence when it comes to Fine Gael's commitment and ability to hammer out the best deal on their behalf.

The crocodile tears that Fine Gael and the Labour Party are shedding tonight for the plight of Aer Lingus workers are in stark contrast to their behaviour at the time of the Irish Shipping crisis. I still remember the sheer staggering incompetence with which the matter was dealt by the person who ironically recently led the Fine Gael delegation to the European Union, Deputy Jim Mitchell. Such was the incompetence, the lack of leadership and direction that the Government of the day finished up by liquidating this once proud Irish company which was as much a badge of our statehood as Aer Lingus, for which the Opposition is shedding so many crocodile tears. The Government of the day finished up by selling Irish Shipping down the tubes, destroying it for a significantly greater price than what it would have cost the Government to save it, because Deputy Jim Mitchell bungled the figures. One statement contradicted another and finally when the real figures were revealed they contradicted all Deputy Mitchell's previous contradictory statements. More importantly, we remember not just the incompetence, but the callousness, the harshness, the coldness towards those who had spent their lives working in Irish Shipping.

What about Aer Lingus?

This was a Government led by former Deputy Garret Fitzgerald's social democrats, those denizens of the Left, together with the

Labour Party. When the ex-workers of Irish Shipping, who had to face out into the harshest economic climate of the century, asked for some sort of gratuity—

(Interruptions.)

As Deputy Noonan did not have the guts to stay, I ask Opposition Members to have the manners to listen.

He is a coward.

I suggest that the Minister of State address his remarks through the Chair and we will try to restore order.

Those 300 Irish Shipping workers were forced to face out into the harshest economic climate of the century with zero prospects of employment. They approached the Government of the day for some form of gratuity, some palliative, something to ease the pain of redundancy and help them make the transition, but what was the centre left Government's response? Deputy Jim Mitchell is on the record of the House as saying that the plight of the ex-workers of Irish Shipping was no longer his Government's responsibility. The attitude of the Left is that workers should find their way to the dole queue.

(Interruptions.)

When that Government was succeeded in office it took merely a paltry £3.5 million to solve the problem. That centre left Government could not find £3.5 million to recognise the contribution of the workers of Irish Shipping, but it could find over £100 million to close down—

The Minister of State should tell us about Aer Lingus.

Deputy Stagg, please allow the Minister of State to continue without interruption.

Anyone looking to be convinced about Deputy Michael Noonan's inability to comprehend and respond to serious national issues such as Aer Lingus needs no further evidence when they consider his call at Shannon Airport for the removal of what he called the political friends of Fianna Fáil from the board of Aer Lingus as his solution to the problems it was facing. Could this be the same Deputy Michael Noonan who raised political patronage to the level of an art form? Could this be the same Deputy Michael Noonan who served as a Minister at the same time in 1996 when the late Fine Gael fund raiser, Mr. David Austin, was appointed to none other than the board of Aer Lingus? He came in through the Lowry connection, but, of course, the Opposition knows nothing about that now. If Deputy Michael Noonan really believes the removal of political appointees from State boards is the key to improving their performance, then I would welcome his views on those of my constituents, well-known Fine Gael activists, whom he appointed to the Irish Medicines Board, the Irish Medicines Advisory Board, the VHI and every other sort of board and quango. Nothing was too big or too small. The only qualification was to be a Fine Gael supporter. I am sure every recruitment agency in this country will be queuing up to offer Deputy Michael Noonan a job after the next general election when he has retired as leader of Fine Gael, such is his expertise in finding jobs for his friends.

No wonder Fine Gael lost the 1997 general election; half its time in government was spent finding jobs on State boards for party workers and friends of old and trawling for hacks to fill such boards. Anyone who ever voted for Fine Gael nearly met the qualifying condition for appointment. If there was only one vacancy on the blood board and Dracula was the only Fine Gael supporter—

(Interruptions.)

The Minister of State to continue without interruption, please.

(Interruptions.)

The Chair has no responsibility for what the Minister of State says.

I am responding to Deputy Noonan's criticism of the failures of Aer Lingus. The chairperson of the VHI is one Derry Hussey. I wonder what party he is associated with or who appointed him. When Deputy Noonan could not do it himself he got his former friends to do so. His closest political adviser in Limerick, Mr. Tony Brassil, the Limerick travel agent, was appointed to the tourism council, ironically, by Deputy Enda Kenny. I doubt he would do so if he was there now. Mr. Tony Brassil is a very competent man and I do not begrudge him—

(Interruptions.)

Please allow the Minister of State to continue.

It is just a coincidence that he happens to be close to Deputy Michael Noonan, but the arm of coincidence is a long one and when a vacancy occurred on the VHI board, it happened to fall to Sheila Brassil, Tony Brassil's wife. Another coincidence.

Fianna Fáil has made significant progress to secure the future of Aer Lingus and maintain the maximum number of sustainable jobs. We have agreed a £40 million redundancy package which takes account of redundancy costs and terms for 2,026 employees of the company. I commend my colleague, the Minister for Public Enterprise, Deputy O'Rourke, for her part in ensuring this package will result in redundancy payments eight to ten times greater than statutory payments. Early retirement will be made available to pilots over the age of 48 years and ex gratia payments of £50,000, subject to a minimum of 20 years completed company service, will be paid. Job losses are never the best option, but lip-service in making a political football out of the lives of those who deserve leadership is a very poor alternative.

(Interruptions.)

Please allow the Minister of State to speak.

For my part, I will continue to fight for the future of Aer Lingus and especially the future of Shannon Airport. While Deputy Michael Noonan is content to stand idly by, while one of his MEPs gives a different story in Strasbourg from the one he gave Aer Lingus workers, I am more than conscious of the airport's place in underpinning the economic and social vibrancy of the Shannon region. I will not hoodwink those whose livelihood depends on it. I have no intention of taking political lectures from Fine Gael. One must look at the credibility and performance when in office of those making the criticisms. When it comes to swallowing principles it is well known that Fine Gael has the digestive system of an ostrich. I will not listen to lectures about the political competence of my colleague, the Minister for Public Enterprise, Deputy O'Rourke, especially when those criticisms come from people who, when they had the stewardship of the State, were the greatest job and investment destroyers in this country since the days of the Great Famine.

A Deputy:

Charlie Chaplin rides again.

I wish to share my time with Deputies Gilmore, Naughten and Stanton.

The motion before the House is particularly timely and appropriate. It seeks the removal from office of arguably the worst Minister with responsibility for public enterprise in the history of the State. Never before has a Minister made such an almighty mess of a Department and the companies for which it has responsibility. After four and a half years, what does the Minister have to show for her tenure of office – chaos on the railways, Aer Lingus in crisis, Luas way behind time—

We have the best railways in Sligo.

Deputy Brennan, allow Deputy Shortall to proceed.

—a botched flotation of Eircom and bedlam and traffic jams on the streets of our cities. There are few areas of the country that have experienced the profoundly detrimental effects of the Minister, Deputy O'Rourke's term in office more than the north side of Dublin. Few areas have suffered as much from the incoherence and incompetence of the Minister on a daily basis.

I will outline three glaring examples of the Minister's failure to deliver services and infrastructure to the north side of Dublin, with which I am sure many other Deputies will sympathise. In the first instance, the fiasco that has been the Minister's handling of the Luas project has been deeply felt on the north side of Dublin. In particular, I refer to the way in which she has effectively shelved the construction of the north side Luas line. The photo stunt last Sunday took the biscuit, but the way in which the north side Luas line has been handled beggars belief. The approach she has taken to this part of the Luas scheme has been epitomised by a failure to offer to the residents of the north side the same light rail facilities as will be available in other parts of the city. It seems the emphasis is solely on serving the needs of Dublin Airport and to hell with the needs of the residents of the north side of Dublin. However important it is to serve the airport, the people living in north Dublin are being forgotten as the Minister continues to filibuster about the north Dublin line. It seems at this point that we will not see the north side Luas line. Instead the emphasis is being placed on metro in order to provide a fast link from the city centre to the airport. That may be a desirable objective in itself, but it seems in the process that the needs of the people of the north side of Dublin, in terms of access to the city and jobs and services in other parts of the city, have been completely forgotten. It seems that the north side Luas line is indefinitely shelved.

Another deficiency of the Minister is her incompetent management of and policy for Dublin Bus. She has failed to recognise the principle that if bus services in Dublin are to be enhanced, adequate subvention and support must be forthcoming. She has failed to adopt the approach taken in other European cities, most of which have bus services that have subvention rates in excess of 50%. In Athens the subvention rate is almost 80% while in Dublin it is derisory. At a time when there is a crying need for enhanced public transport, the Minister continues to expect Dublin Bus to operate with one hand tied behind its back and continues to bad mouth the company in the process.

While I could continue for much longer the last area I will mention is Aer Lingus. The Minister may well go down in history as having presided over the deconstruction of one of our most treasured State assets. Her complete and absolute disregard and disdain for the company and its employees has brought home clearly to many people the true colours of Fianna Fáil in relation to protecting State companies. The refusal of the Minister and the Taoiseach to adequately address the Aer Lingus crisis at European level speaks volumes about their attitude to the company and to the thousands of its employees facing redundancies. The Minister has thrown social partnership out the window in Aer Lingus and has refused to engage in constructive discussions with its unions and management.

These are only three of a litany of failures and fiascos that have characterised the Minister's term of office. There is little time left for this Government, but it is not too late to put someone in charge of the Department of Public Enterprise who at least knows what he or she is doing, unlike the Minister.

I thank Deputy Shortall for sharing her time with me. I speak specifically on behalf of the commuters in my constituency who spend so much of every day stuck in the congested traffic of this city. All those commuters would have been greatly saddened to hear the pathetic excuse of Government's response tonight to the plight they experience every day, to hear the Minister, who is directly responsible for public transport, substitute her version of bluff and bombast for policy and product and to add insult to injury, to see the Minister of State, Deputy O'Dea, being sent to give his poor man's version of the ‘town hall tonight' slapstick to distract attention from the Government's pathetic record on public transport.

The commuters whom I represent from Booterstown to Bray on average spend an hour travelling to work, if they work in the city centre, and an hour travelling home in the evening. Two hours a day five days a week is ten hours and that multiplied by 48 weeks of the year is 480 hours or 20 days. The average commuter in my constituency spends as much time stuck in traffic every year as he or she spends on annual leave. Worked out over the 40 years of a working life, that adds up to two and a half years or three and a half years of one's waking hours. That is a long sen tence, a long time to be stuck frustrated in the traffic of this city.

The release from that imprisonment is public transport. More than four years ago the then rainbow Government decided to proceed with the Luas project, a key component in the DTO strategy to give this city an efficient public transport system. The plan was to have Luas in place by 2002, but then there was a general election and the appointment of the Minister, Deputy O'Rourke, with responsibility for public transport. Her first decision was to reverse the rainbow Government's plan for the Luas system. Fianna Fáil and the Progressive Democrats had conceded to a section of the city centre business interests that Luas should be put under ground. The Minister commissioned a study by Atkins Consultants. To her discomfort, Atkins recommended that the Government should go ahead with the original rainbow Government plan to put Luas over ground but she binned the report and decided to put Luas under ground. All of that has resulted in a three year delay in the planning and delivery of Luas. It has probably put the city centre element of the project in serious doubt due to the geological uncertainty and the financial cost of the underground option. It has ripped the heart out of the DTO's strategy for an integrated public transport system in Dublin.

Meanwhile, Dublin traffic has worsened, as the city has increased in size and most of its citizens have opted for the only available and reliable method of getting around at present, the private car. Public transport is spoken about, but it is ignored by the Government. In my constituency the DART has become overcrowded and often unreliable as the Minister has failed to provide the necessary additional carriages and trains.

That is not true.

That is most certainly true. I travel on it several times a week. The quality bus corridors have been painted on the roadways but are frequently vacant because the Minister has failed to provide the buses needed to bring a quality bus service to life.

The Deputy's party when in government did not provide one bus.

In my constituency insult has been added to injury by the ending of the No. 8 bus service to Dalkey, a decision that has evoked major anger among local people. What the Minister and her Government lack in public transport delivery they make up in hard neck. Last Sunday the people who delayed work on Luas for the past four years paraded in front of a stationary Luas carriage on a make believe railway station as if they had come up with the idea themselves and they will take it all away for another three years. In another three years the Minister and her Government will be well out of office. Perhaps then the frustrated Dublin commuter will be able to get a decent public transport system. Getting that in place has one precondition, getting the Minister and her Government off the tracks.

The Minister of State, Deputy O'Dea, had a cheek to give the statement he gave the House this evening. This is the Minister who cannot stand over what he has done in his Department in the past four and a half years. The dilapidated school buses are the responsibility of the Minister, Deputy O'Dea. They are death traps. Children are risking their lives every day when they travel on them to and from school. What has the Minister of State done about it? Nothing. There has been a report on his desk gathering dust for the past two years. It addresses the issue but the Minister has done nothing.

This is the same Minister about whom some of the youth organisations have complained to the Taoiseach. They complain of his lack of ability to tackle the issues in youth affairs for which he is supposed to be responsible. That is the Minister who came to the House to defend the Minister for Public Enterprise.

Last week Irish Rail announced its decision to lay off 300 of its 600 freight staff. In the same week, the Minister for Public Enterprise claimed she intended to develop the rail infrastructure, open closed lines and expand the capacity of Irish Rail. The decision by Irish Rail is a direct contradiction of Government policy and the Minister's statement. Soundbites rather than action have been the backbone of the Government.

Take the Luas as an example. Hundreds of thousands of pounds have been spent on the Luas PR machine. The only thing that has happened with regard to Luas is the PR attached to it. No action has been taken to deal with the cattle trains that bring people to Dublin from the west every Sunday night and home to the west every Friday evening. As my colleague, Deputy Higgins, described them, they are like the trains in Calcutta. What has the Minister, Deputy O'Rourke, done about it? Nothing, other than spend money on PR—

A sum of £40 million was spent on the Sligo line.

—in relation to Luas. Another £25,000 was spent setting up the Luas tram in Merrion Square. Over 90% of freight in this country is carried on our congested roads. There are 12,000 licensed haulage vehicles on the roads but Government policy has ignored this problem and turned its back on the 300 Irish Rail freight employees.

The country is booming.

Why after nearly four and a half years in office has the Minister for Public Enterprise only now decided to concentrate on the development of the rail network? The upgrading of the rail line between Athlone and Westport only became a political priority after a near fatality in Knockcroghery, County Roscommon. Otherwise the Minister would not have made the investment despite clapping herself on the back earlier this evening for doing so. Policy has been reactive rather than proactive. We still have the most archaic rail safety legislation in the EU. The rail safety inspector in the Department is such in name only, with no powers to compel Irish Rail to furnish relevant information.

The shambles in the rail sector is similar to the situation in the electricity sector. Each winter since the Government took office, the power crisis has progressively got worse, yet the private sector has its hands tied in meeting the deficit due to the Minister's inability or lack of will to tackle the red tape of regulation. This is further compounded by the lack of capacity in the ESB to connect power to new homes throughout the country. Many young couples are tonight waiting six months for the ESB to connect power to their homes. It is as bad as getting telephones connected in the early 1980s. We will have to bring back Mark Killilea. He seems to be the only person who can address the problem. This problem also exists in Deputy Brennan's constituency.

People cannot get power connected to their homes. It is disgraceful. It is intolerable and cannot be permitted to continue.

Look at the housing schemes that were due to be developed by the Minister of State, Deputy Molloy. Many of those have been held up because the ESB cannot or will not connect power to the houses. Families are living in desperate conditions because the local authorities cannot get the ESB to connect power to the houses.

That is not true.

That is the situation we are dealing with every day. It is a situation the Minister has ignored for four and a half years.

Eircom was supposed to provide broadband investment across the country. However, it has not provided fibre optic cable because it claims it is uneconomical. What has the Minister done? She has turned her back on the west. She does not give a damn because the fibre optic cable is now in Athlone so the rest of us can take a run and jump. Take the example of ADSL. The Minister spoke about high speed information technology and high speed Internet access. She talked and talked but implemented nothing. The funding has not been provided and she has not provided legislation to tackle these issues. All she has done is promote these matters through her PR, spin doctors and statements. There has been no action whatsoever.

I am grateful to have the opportunity to speak in this debate. I was amazed the Minister came to the House with a long speech but spent most of her time attacking the Opposition. The Minister of State, Deputy O'Dea, had 15 minutes to make his contribution. He spent two minutes defending the Minister and the rest of his speech was an attack on the Opposition. He referred back to the time of Brian Boru, as another Member pointed out. I was worried when it started but I am more worried now. Surely the Government Deputies had something positive to say about the Minister rather than simply attack the Opposition. Things must be worse than we thought.

I travel a good deal on trains. There were huge queues last weekend for the mainline train to Cork from Dublin. I have listened to my colleagues talk about the trains to the west, but the Cork to Dublin line is the flagship service. People want to travel by public transport but the Minister could not tell me last week when the extra carriages will be delivered. They are not even ordered yet after four and a half years in office.

Deputy Noonan referred earlier to the rail line to Midleton. This has been mooted for the past five years as a means of opening up east Cork. Everybody thought the project was a success. The local authorities have come on board and the strategic planning is in place. What did the Minister and Iarnród Éireann do? They ordered yet another feasibility study which has not yet started and will probably take another 12 months to be completed. In the meantime, nothing will happen with this line. I hope by then the Minister and Fianna Fáil will no longer be in office.

We are still waiting for the sustainable energy Bill. It is due to come before the Dáil but the Government has not prioritised it. The Minister of State must take responsibility for that. It must be prioritised and I call on the Minister to bring it forward. It is extremely important.

Eircom has been mentioned. Everybody watched the debacle when Eircom shares were touted and flouted around the country. Many people lost a lot of money on those shares. Compare that to the smoke and mirrors situation we saw this week with the Luas launch. That exhibition cost £25,000.

I would say £100,000.

We are told it was £25,000.

Why not say £300,000?

It is an exorbitant amount of money which cannot be justified. It was spent so the Minister could have her photograph taken as she sat behind the wheel smiling, while the Taoiseach skulked behind her in case he would be seen. He knew that this was the wrong thing to do.

That is progress.

It was not the right thing to do. The Deputy is getting excited so I must be touching a raw nerve.

Deputy Brennan should allow Deputy Stanton to continue without interruption.

They do not like progress.

I am definitely touching raw nerves. The truth hurts. Aer Lingus is the latest problem. People are closely watching what will happen to Aer Lingus.

There is an airport in Sligo and Knock.

A few weeks ago we asked this House to be united behind the Minister in sending her to Brussels to make a case for Aer Lingus. The Minister would not allow this and divided the House on the issue. She went to Brussels and came back empty handed. The Taoiseach is now reported in the newspapers to be saying that Aer Lingus might not survive beyond the weekend. That is appalling.

I call on the Minister and the Taoiseach not to allow Aer Lingus to go to the wall. If it does go to the wall, there will be a serious impact on this country. Tourism has been mentioned. If Aer Lingus is lost, tourism will suffer. Tourism is already in serious trouble. We need a proactive infrastructure. People from America have told me that to get to the west of Ireland is a nightmare, regardless of whether one travels by train or car.

The Government has failed miserably on all fronts. It gives me no great pleasure to tell the House that it is time for the Minister to go. I ask her to resign honourably so that we can see if somebody else in Fianna Fáil can do a better job, although there probably is nobody.

The Deputy is wasting the time of the House with that nonsense.

It is time she went for the sake of the country.

Deputy Brennan could take over the job.

Debate adjourned.
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