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Dáil Éireann díospóireacht -
Wednesday, 17 Apr 2002

Vol. 552 No. 1

Adjournment Debate. - Suspension of School Principal.

(Dublin West): Nuair a briseadh Tomás Ó Dúlaing as a phost mar phríomhoide ar Scoil Thulach na n-Óg i nDún Bóinne, déanadh seo toisc gur sheas sé i gcoinne leanaí a dheighilt ar bhun creidimh – sé sin ar bhun seicteach – le linn ceachta creidimh taobh istigh de ghnáth am clár na scoile. Tá dualgas trom ar an Aire Oideachais agus Eolaíochta cur in aghaidh an chinnidh seo – príomhoide cróga, díograsach a bhriseadh as a phost. Glaoím ar an Aire a rá go dearfa go bhfuil sé in aghaidh an bhrisidh seo agus go gcuirfidh sé scéala chuig An Foras Patrúnachta nach glacfaidh sé leis, agus go gcuirfidh sé cumhacht oifige agus cumhacht na Roinne taobh thiar de seo.

I am most displeased that the Minister for Education and Science is not here tonight to reply directly to this critical issue that has emerged in education. Today, Tomás Ó Dúlaing, the principal of the interdenominational gaelscoil in Dunboyne, County Meath, was sacked from his position by the school board of management. Tomás Ó Dúlaing's offence was to refuse to segregate little children during school hours on the basis of their religious denomination or, more correctly, the religious denomination of their parents.

Last year, a policy decision was taken by the parents, all the teachers and the board of management that children of Protestant and Catholic families would have a common religious instruction on the doctrines on which the churches agree and that the minority doctrine on which disagreement existed would be taught outside school hours, thereby having a policy of avoiding the segregation of children during school hours on a religious basis. An Foras Patrúnachta, the patron body of gaelscoileanna, set out to overturn that policy and insisted on Protestant children effectively being sent out of the class or to be otherwise engaged while certain elements of doctrine were being taught.

It is appalling that a society which has seen the fruits of sectarian education in Northern Ireland should, in 2002, see a policy of apartheid being introduced which children do not comprehended and which is not wanted by their parents. In a recent letter to The Irish Times, a parent stated that at recent parent meetings more than 75% of the school community have been in favour of the policy that had been in place and behind the principal, Tomás Ó Dúlaing. The letter went on to say that if An Foras Patrúnachta succeeds in its objectives, this parent's child, who is so far unaware of any significant difference between himself and his Protestant peers, will be forced to witness religious segregation on a regular basis.

That raises the question of democratic control of education. The Catholic hierarchy should explain if it had a role in overturning the policy decision taken by the parents and the teachers last year and if it advised An Forus Patrúnachta to overturn this policy of opposition to segregation. If this is coming from the church, it should not be accepted, especially in a month when its care for other children in other circumstances was less than what was desired.

The INTO should vehemently oppose this position and all teachers' unions should take a stand. It raises the need for an education system that is democratically controlled but the most crucial question is whether the Minister for Education and Science will stand up in favour of the policy of opposition to segregating children and, therefore, vehemently oppose the sacking of Tomás Ó Dúlaing.

Tomás Ó Dúlaing is a highly competent, popular, principled and committed educator who is threatened with paying a heavy price for his stand against sectarian division of children in this State in 2002. He is a married man with a young family who is threatened with the loss of his job. He may not be employed by other patron bodies if this is confirmed. He must not be forced to pay such a price for his support for open and non-sectarian education. The Government has a serious responsibility to see to it that he is not called upon to do so.

Gabhaim buíochas leis an Teachta as ucht an cás seo a ardú. Tuigeann sé go bhfuil sé casta, pearsanta, deacair agus go bhfuil réamhshamplaí dlíthiúla ann fosta nach rachaidh mé isteach iontu um thráthnóna. The Minister is aware of the controversy that has arisen at a school under the patronage of An Foras Patrúnachta na Scoileanna Lán Ghaeilge. Its ethos is described by the patron body as being of an inter-denominational character, whereby equal status is given to the Catholic and Church of Ireland religions. It is a matter for patron bodies to decide upon the ethos that will apply in individual schools and neither the Minister for Education and Science, any successive Minister, any of his predecessors nor his Department has or has had any wish to interfere in such matters. However, in order to establish whether his Department can assist in resolving this controversy the Minister's officials have been in contact with a number of parties, including the patron body, with a view to exploring whether a process of facilitation would be acceptable to all parties.

Currently, contact is ongoing between the Department and various parties. Under the circumstances the Minister proposes to await the outcome of these contacts before making any comments on the issue of facilitation. It is important to point out to the Deputy, however, that the disciplinary proceedings in which the principal teacher is involved are entirely matters for resolution between the board of management of the school and the principal and not ones in which either the Minister or his Department can interfere. Primary schools are private institutions under independent management. The board of management is the body charged with the direct governance of the school and the employer of the teachers in the school, including the principal. The board is entitled to take disciplinary proceedings against him or her or any teacher if it considers that his or her conduct is or has been in some way unacceptable.

It is important, however, to balance this with the constitutional position. The principal is also entitled to be represented in any disciplinary process, which representation will normally be undertaken by the INTO. The secretary general of the INTO has already commented on this matter and is involved in trying to resolve it. Procedures have been agreed between the INTO and the representative bodies of boards of management about the format of any disciplinary proceedings. These procedures provide that a teacher must be informed of the complaints against him or her and be afforded the opportunity to respond to these complaints or allegations. In short, the disciplinary proceedings between the board and the principal are not matters in which the Department of Education and Science can interfere. Procedures are in place for dealing with such matters at local level. They do not provide for the involvement of the Department in any manner.

The situation is a very sad one and I accept what Deputy Higgins has said. I do not know the principal involved but did go to a voluntary Catholic secondary school, a diocesan college of fairly reasonable repute which had, and still has, Church of Ireland, Presbyterian, national and international students. Never in the history of that college, which spans most of the past century, has there been any difficulty in maintaining the religious ethos of the school and facilitating the other children in their religion through their parents and churches. I appeal to all sides in the case to stand back, be calm and reasonable and see if the matter can be resolved in a positive way as quickly as possible.

The Dáil adjourned at 11.25 p.m. until 10.30 a.m. on Thursday, 18 April 2002.

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