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Dáil Éireann díospóireacht -
Thursday, 7 Nov 2002

Vol. 556 No. 5

Ceisteanna – Questions. Priority Questions. - Grant Payments.

Seán Ryan

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5 Mr. S. Ryan asked the Minister for Agriculture and Food if he will report on the 2001 grant allocations in respect of the capital investment scheme 2000-2006 for the marketing and processing of certain agricultural products, in particular potatoes; the payments which have been made to date; if he has satisfied himself as to the administrative operation of the scheme; if any investigation is required, and if so, whether the scheme should be suspended pending such an investigation; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [20914/02]

A total of six projects have been approved for grant aid totalling €1.796 million under the capital investment scheme for the marketing and processing of certain agricultural products in the potato sector.

To date, of the six, three claims for payment have been received. No payment has actually issued to date. The procedure followed in my Department in the evaluation and selection of projects in the potato sector is the same for all other sectors included in the overall scheme. This procedure is as follows. An advertisement is placed in the local, general and farming press. Following this, a total of 28 applications were received from the potato sector, all of which were evaluated by officials in the relevant divisions of the Department of Agriculture and Food, by reference to viability, target markets, sectoral and regional impacts, particularly at primary producer level, and the extent to which they would improve the saleability of the primary product. Two of the applications were found to be ineligible while a third was subsequently withdrawn, leaving a total of 25 applications of the 28 to be considered. Between them, the 25 applications in the potato sector had a grant aid requirement of almost €10 million while the funding available for this sector amounted to €2 million.

Funding under the scheme is limited and eligibility alone does not necessarily confer an entitlement to grant aid. Accordingly, all applications must be subjected to a competitive assessment and ranking process.

The selection committee, which comprises four assistant secretaries of Department of Agriculture and Food and a representative from Enterprise Ireland, met on 20 March 2002 to consider these applications. The committee was provided with information on the potato sector in general, priorities of this sector, details of previous total funding awarded in this sector and an individual fiche, which is a synopsis of the application for each project. Having taken into account the above factors and the individual applications, the committee recommended that seven projects be selected for the award of grant aid.

Additional informationOn 28 March 2002 six projects were submitted to me for approval and I approved these six. A seventh project, while provisionally selected by the selection committee, was not submitted to me pending further investigation into certain aspects of the application. This investigation subsequently proved that this application was ineligible and, as such, was never submitted to me.

I am satisfied that the scheme was correctly and fairly administered by my officials at all stages of the process and I intend to continue the operation of the scheme as set out in the overall marketing and processing programme. It is my understanding that the background to the decision process has been explained in considerable detail to the Deputy.

This particular allocation smells of corruption and the Minister's reply will not convince anyone in the industry that anything other than—

Deputy Ryan should just ask a question.

I will. How can the taxpayers have confidence in the selection process when €308,000 was directly recommended to an applicant who did not meet the basic eligibility requirements of the scheme and who only decided to meet the requirements, by way of a planning application, some nine days after being informed by his Deputy, or Minister, in Donegal that he had been allocated a grant? In addition, how can they have confidence given that the applicant was also a staunch Fianna Fáil supporter? It is true that this grant has been stopped, but that is due to me and other growers. Is the Minister aware that senior officials within the food division informed representatives of the IFA, Teagasc and representatives of potential applicants that this particular scheme did not cover the added on elements associated with potatoes, such as peeling, chipping and processing, and discouraged growers from applying on that basis? Notwithstanding that, the selection committee and the Minister approved of it and proceeded to allocate £390,000 and £160,000, respectively, to applicants who breached the sectoral priority of the scheme and who are alleged to have been well known supporters of Fianna Fáil. Will the Minister comment on that?

I would like to comment on that. The only person who is trying to corrupt this scheme is Deputy Seán Ryan—

Not in the least, I have the facts.

—and nobody else. The Deputy is trying to bully his way through this scheme for one of his constituents.

No. I have constituents from Monaghan and Donegal.

The Minister without interruption, please.

The data is available, not alone to every Member of this House but more widely available under FOI. I welcome and encourage people to look under FOI and see what Deputy Seán Ryan is up to. He is trying to intimidate officials of the Department and bully them for the sake of one of his constituents.

The assistant secretaries and officials in the Department are people of outstanding and unquestionable integrity and they assessed this along with a member of Enterprise Ireland, and they allocate and approve the grants. They come to me only after they have been approved by the selection committee. When they came to me in regard to this particular matter, I did not interfere with the process in any way. I sanctioned the applications that were presented to me for approval by the selection committee, but Deputy Seán Ryan wanted to override that and bulldoze his way through the Department for one of his own constituents.

Briefly, Deputy Seán Ryan.

My constituents come from Monaghan, Donegal and Dublin.

A brief question, Deputy. There are 30 seconds remaining.

How come the circular that was submitted from the Minister's Department said clearly that marketing and processing is allowed for horticulture and also—

Deputy, your time is up. A brief comment from the Minister.

—that marketing only is allowed for potatoes?

Sorry, Deputy—

On the basis of the ordinary potato-growing people—

The Minister is to make a final comment.

—who have been denied their grants time and again in favour of people who have supported Fianna Fáil over the years—

Deputy Ryan—

—these people who have not done anything—

Deputy Ryan—

—do not even know how to put a spade into the ground, yet they received grants. It is a scandal.

Deputy Ryan, I ask you to resume your seat.

What is happening is an utter scandal.

As the Deputy is aware, Question Time—

I am looking for an investigation.

The Deputy should stop speaking when the Chair is on its feet.

If the Minister is clear that everything is above board—

—I am looking for an investigation.

I ask you to resume your position when the Chair is on its feet.

Will the Minister investigate the matter?

Will the Deputy listen to the Chair for a moment?

Will the Minister make a commitment to investigate this matter?

Will you listen to the Chair for a moment? As you are aware, Question Time is curtailed today because there is a Private Notice Question. In fairness to Deputies who have stayed back this afternoon to have their questions answered, I ask you to obey the Standing Order. We will now move to the next question.

Will the Minister indicate if he is prepared to hold an investigation into this matter?

I ask the Deputy to resume his seat when the Chair is on its feet.

I will raise the matter at the Oireachtas Select Committee on Agriculture and Food. I am determined to have this matter investigated.

Is the Deputy aware that his colleagues are waiting to have their questions answered?

I have only taken an extra 30 seconds with my question, for which I apologise.

The Deputy has taken more than an extra 30 seconds and if he persists I will suspend the sitting and subsequent questions will not be answered. I call the Minister to proceed to the next question.

Deputy Ryan is trying to bully the House, the Chair and my Department officials.

I am not.

His bullying will not be tolerated. My officials are sick of it and they will report the Deputy to their union if he does not stop bullying them.

I will stand up for them.

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