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Dáil Éireann díospóireacht -
Wednesday, 22 Oct 2003

Vol. 573 No. 1

Written Answers. - Anti-Poverty Strategy.

Trevor Sargent

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99 Mr. Sargent asked the Minister for Social and Family Affairs the response of her Department on the view of the Combat Poverty Agency that the widening gap between Ireland's rich and poor will require a radical rethink of social security services. [24302/03]

I assume the Deputy is referring to the comments of the Combat Poverty Agency on the report by Dr. Virpi Timonen of TCD entitled, Irish Social Expenditure in a Comparative International Context, which the agency recently published and to the position in Ireland regarding relative poverty.

This report analyses Ireland's level of social expenditure by comparison to other OECD countries. It is necessary to point out, however, that there are a range of factors that need to be taken into account in making such comparisons. These factors are that the old age dependency ratio in Ireland is approximately a third lower than the EU average, requiring much lower expenditure on pensions and health care; Ireland relies fully on occupational and private pension provision to provide supplementary pensions. A majority of members of these schemes have not reached pension age and expenditure under these schemes is not fully taken into account for social protection expenditure purposes by EUROSTAT; Ireland's current level of unemployment is among the lowest in the EU; social expenditure is usually given as a proportion of GDP which includes a high proportion of repatriated profits – a significant factor in our case; the actual income available, GNP, is up to 15% less; and Ireland is financing a much higher level of public investment in infrastructure running to over 6% of GDP in 2002.

The ageing of the population will result in significant increases in expenditure on pensions, health services and care services in the medium term. It is for that reason that the Pension Reserve Fund, which has already reached €8.4 billion, is being set up to help meet the growing future pension liabilities and ease the burden on future generations of workers.

The main aim for those of working age is to continue to increase employment participation and quality jobs, the best security against poverty and social exclusion. This requires maintaining economic competitiveness and an active labour market policy to encourage and facilitate employment and to increase employability through education and training. Sound economic and fiscal policies are being pursued to maintain competitiveness and services and supports to improve employment participation and employability are in place and are being further developed.

The growing levels of employment participation, the low levels of long-term unemployment and the general increasing standards of living provide clear evidence that these policies are working.

The widening gap between the incomes of the majority and those on social welfare and on low incomes generally are the product of the recent rapid economic growth we have been experiencing.
This gap will narrow progressively as benefit and pension rates increase in real terms, access to services and their quality continue to improve, growing numbers qualify for social insurance and supplementary pensions, and as expenditure on health and other services for an ageing population increase.
We are prudently using the window of opportunity currently presented by the favourable demographic position to provide for the future as well as the present, especially through the Pension Reserve Fund, the high level of infra-structural investment and our investment and development of our young people and our workforce which provide our greatest security for the present and future. The outcome will be secure, financially sustainable social provision based on a strong economy.
I am having the Combat Poverty Agency report and its comments on the report carefully studied and the findings will be fully taken into account in future policy development. I do not consider, however, that current realities warrant the radical rethink of social provision the agency suggests.
Question No. 100 answered with Question No. 92.
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