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Dáil Éireann díospóireacht -
Tuesday, 20 Mar 2007

Vol. 633 No. 4

Asset Covered Securities (Amendment) Bill 2007: Second Stage.

I move: "That the Bill be now read a Second Time."

This Bill is an amending Bill, but it is a very important one which is urgently required in order to introduce some necessary technical changes to its parent Act, the Asset Covered Securities Act 2001. I might clarify at the outset for Deputies that the term "asset covered securities", or ACS, is a sort of Irish brand name for covered bonds issued under our legislative framework as set down by the 2001 Act.

The 2001 Act was a landmark piece of legislation for our internationally-focused financial services sector. It facilitated the establishment in Ireland of a robust legislative and regulatory basis for the issuance of covered bonds by Irish-based specialist banks. The ability to issue covered bonds is now a very important tool for banks' liquidity as it enables them to use some of their existing loans — currently restricted to residential mortgage loans and loans to public sector institutions under the 2001 Act — to raise new funding on a cost-efficient basis. This new funding can then be used for further lending operations by the banks.

This involves putting the relevant loans into a "cover assets pool" and then issuing bonds, that is, asset covered securities, against that pool. The loans in the pool serve as collateral backing for the bonds and the interest and principal repayments on those loans are used to meet the interest payments on the bonds and eventually to redeem them. Meanwhile, the funding raised from the bond issue can be used to make further loans.

This technique is not exactly a recent innovation. It originated in the form of the German Pfandbriefe model about 150 years ago. However, it was only over the past decade or so that other member states with developed financial services industries began facilitating this type of activity. This has, in part, been necessitated by the changing pattern of consumer saving. Up until relatively recent times, banks could rely on substantial savings and deposit accounts to help fund their lending programmes. However, with more and more savings now going directly into investment funds and pension schemes, it is important for banks to be able to draw on diversified sources of funding in order that the financial system can effectively support economic activity.

The term "asset backed securities", ABS, covers a very wide spectrum of financial products, but covered bonds are at the tightly-regulated and low-risk end of that spectrum. This refers to the fact that investors in our covered bonds have a preferential claim on the cover assets in the assets pool, the value of which invariably exceeds the value of the bonds outstanding.

The main features of this type of covered bond activity can be characterised as follows. First, the right to issue such bonds is governed by specific legislation — in Ireland's case, the Asset Covered Securities Act 2001. Second, the issuing credit institution is subject to special prudential and regulatory supervision. Third, the set of eligible cover assets is tightly restricted and set down in the legislation and must also meet certain credit quality requirements. Fourth, it is an "on balance sheet" activity, that is, the loans are not sold off to some special purpose vehicle, as with a securitisation operation. The loans remain on the balance sheet of the issuing bank and-or group. Also, the bondholders are equally-ranking, and, as I have mentioned before, they have priority claim on the relevant assets in the cover assets pool in the event of the default of the issuer. Finally, the cover assets pool must contain sufficient collateral assets to cover bondholders' claims throughout the whole term of the covered bonds.

I take it that it will be clear to Deputies from these details that the ACS sector is a very tightly controlled and carefully regulated one. In fact, it might even be described as micro-regulated, reflecting investors' preferences for a high-quality, low-risk investment product.

To complete this overview of the covered bonds landscape, I should explain that this activity takes place in the wholesale sector of the banking industry and that the bonds are not aimed at retail investors. Those who invest in these bonds are, for the most part, professional institutional investors such as pension funds, investment funds and banks, including even central banks. Those investors are located worldwide, so Irish covered bonds are now a global capital markets product. The attraction of these bonds is that they provide investors with access to a security that is supported by high quality assets over which the investors maintain a robust, preferential claim.

While our asset covered securities legislation was landmark financial services legislation, it was also pioneering. When originally introduced, there was no ready-made blueprint available for such legislation from another common law jurisdiction to guide in constructing a statutory framework for this type of financial activity. While the concept has been on the continent for 150 years in the form of German Pfandbriefe, from which our legislation drew inspiration, there were many areas where national discretion had to be exercised and carefully balanced judgment calls made.

Nevertheless, the legislative and regulatory framework developed in Ireland was widely regarded as a best practice regime and even an improvement in certain respects on those of some other long-established jurisdictions in this market. Some of the features pioneered by Ireland have been taken up by other countries when introducing new covered bonds systems or by others updating their existing covered bonds frameworks. The legislation has been a major success and has underpinned the development of Ireland as an international location for the covered bond issuance. Since the enactment of the 2001 Act, bonds to the value of over €60 billion have been issued under the framework. It is expected that further issues to the extent of approximately €10 billion may be made this year.

Asset covered securities are, therefore, a significant element of Ireland's success in international financial services activity. Total employment in Irish-based international financial services firms stands at more than 19,000. It is an important source of revenue for the Exchequer. The total yield of corporation tax from IFSC companies in 2006 was over €1 billion, according to the Revenue Commissioners, approximately 17% of total corporation tax. Our entry into the covered bonds niche sector has been a particular success for the IFSC regime, generating significant employment, incomes and tax revenue and creating an international profile for Ireland as an important centre for covered bond issuance. This amending Bill will build on our existing success and will help to ensure our ongoing competitive position in this highly competitive sector, thus underpinning existing employment and creating the opportunity for further growth and sustained competitive advantage.

As with any new prototype, even in a specialist area of financial services legislation, the day-to-day operation of the model inevitably brings to light some areas where the link between theory and practice requires some refinement over time. The Bill will provide greater legal clarity and will facilitate greater flexibility when operating certain provisions. Accordingly, it is necessary to make a number of technical changes to the 2001 Act.

The definition of "duration" in the 2001 Act required clarification which is being addressed by way of amendments in sections 20 and 35. The new definition is in line with standard industry practice. Members may have noted the plethora of amendments — over 20 — whereby the term "comprised" is substituted for the word "included". These all follow from section 2(n) which inserts a new definition of the term “include” into the 2001 Act. This definition is needed to make it clear that the insertion of an asset or contract into the cover assets pool does not mean the continued maintenance of that asset in that pool. This is because it is necessary to actively manage the assets in the pool on an ongoing basis. It is particularly important to reassure the counter-parties to a hedge contract that the hedge collateral held in the pool can be returned to them when the contract so requires.

There are also related consequential amendments affecting entries in the registers which are kept to record the assets in the cover assets pools. Another technical change relates to the use of derivatives in the cover assets pool. Derivatives, such as swaps, are used to hedge various risks such as currency risks, credit risks or interest rate risks. It is also being made clear to hedge counter-parties that the hedge collateral is protected for them in the event of the issuing bank's insolvency. This is ensured by holding the hedge collateral in the pool but as a separate asset category from the other assets in the pool. Without this amendment, the counter-parties to hedge contracts would be less willing to hand over collateral to back their hedge contracts if that collateral were not properly safeguarded for them while in the pool. Accordingly, the section 5(a) amendment provides important legal clarity to the 2001 Act.

While the initial urgency for this Bill arose from the need to achieve greater legal clarity for some provisions of the 2001 Act, such as some of those I have just outlined, other strategic considerations have since come into prominence. From 1 January 2007, the EU's capital requirements directive, CRD, came into force across the European Union giving legislative effect within the EU to the Basel 2 Agreement on the capital requirements for credit institutions. We now have a window of opportunity in exploiting some of the reforms introduced under the CRD. It is not just a question of aligning our regime with the provisions of the CRD so as to enhance our competitive advantage; it is also the case that if we do not align our asset covered securities framework quickly with the CRD's, our covered bonds may become less attractive as investment products for foreign banks and other entities which hold these bonds.

At the same time, by being an early mover in incorporating the CRD's reforms into our asset covered securities regime, we will undoubtedly gain some competitive advantage for those who issue those bonds under our legislative and regulatory framework. It could lead to more Irish financial institutions taking up this activity and encourage overseas issuers to locate in Ireland, with all the associated benefits for the economy with high quality jobs, tax revenue and the development of our international financial sector.

The modernisation to the asset covered securities framework prompted by the CRD includes the definition of "public credit". This is being modified to bring it in line with the CRD definition. New Zealand and Australia will be added to the existing list of non-EEA countries — Canada, Japan, the Swiss Confederation and the USA — whose assets may be included in a cover assets pool.

To reflect the developing nature of the asset covered security business, it is proposed to provide for the use of loans to highly-rated multilateral development banks such as the IBRD, the EIB, the Asian Development Bank etc. It will also cover loans to international organisations such as the IMF and BIS. The pool eligibility criteria for so-called substitution assets — essentially cash held on short-term deposit with highly-rated banks — are being brought into line with the CRD. Inter alia, this involves reducing the Irish limit for substitution assets of 20% on a pool asset basis to 15% on a covered bonds outstanding basis. It will also involve more frequent property valuations. The CRD requirement for annual valuations for commercial property and three yearly valuations for residential property are covered by the amendments.

The amendments provide for the inclusion of residential and commercial mortgage backed securities, that is, units of mortgage securitisation issues, in the cover assets pool and meet the requirements of the CRD in this regard. The current provisions which restrict the level of public credit covered securities to 50 times the institution's funds level are being modified as a result of changing risk weighting of public sector loans under the CRD.

Under existing legislation, covered bonds can effectively only be issued against residential mortgage loans and loans to public sector institutions. However, a new type of designated credit institution, a designated commercial mortgage credit institution, is introduced to issue covered bonds secured on commercial mortgage loans. This innovation, too, is inspired by the provisions of the CRD.

The opportunity is also being taken in this legislation to modernise the legal framework in the light of international developments in this sector since the 2001 legislation was put in place. For instance, the 2001 Act requires that the asset covered securities be fully, that is 100%, collateralised. Some other jurisdictions have specified a requirement that there be a degree of over-collateralisation. It is appropriate that Ireland, too, should strengthen the safeguards for investors by introducing mandatory over-collateralisation of 3% in the case of residential mortgage loan and public sector loan pools and 10% in the case of the proposed new commercial mortgage loan pools. It will, of course, still be open to issuers to give a contractual commitment to investors that they will maintain even higher levels of collateralisation than are statutory required by the reforms in the Bill.

This is technical and complex legislation. The reforms I have outlined have been carefully drafted in consultation with industry legal experts, the Financial Regulator and by the Parliamentary Counsel. The proposals have also been formally vetted and cleared by the European Central Bank which confirmed it had no problems with them. I shall be bringing forward a few amendments on Committee Stage which are of a minor technical nature and to correct some cross-references.

While this is an amending Bill and as such is just making modifications to an existing framework Act, I cannot over-emphasise the importance of the early adoption of these reforms for the ongoing effectiveness of this important sector of our financial services industry and for the wider economic activity it underpins. I commend this Bill to the House.

I cannot pretend I understand fully the products which necessitate a change in the legislation governing them. To a large degree, we are taking on trust what the Minister and his officials tell us. I recognise this is a sector of the economy that has grown rapidly and where early movers can get a significant market share. Ireland has been most effective in developing a good niche in the financial services sector in recent years. I am supportive of any development of our legislation which has a sound prudential basis but which is also allowing new products to develop. We have developed a well-earned reputation for being effective on the regulatory side, while doing it with a light touch that is not excessively bureaucratic. We must maintain that reputation.

With the establishment of the Irish Financial Services Regulatory Authority, IFSRA, some of the financial institutions involved in these more arcane areas of financial product development have felt that perhaps the new regulator has been on a learning curve and the system has become more bureaucratic than had been the case in the past. Inevitably, with any new institution there is a bedding-in period. We are moving from a situation where financial regulation probably considered only prudential concerns and did not consider consumer issues but that is changing. As regulatory regimes develop, regulators have to come to grips with a need to look in more than just one direction.

I am encouraged that this is a sector where there continues to be growth and high quality employment is provided. We could probably go further in working to develop the pool of talent and educational supports to make this industry grow. As we have seen in recent times, some of our traditional manufacturing industries and even some of our more recent internationally traded services are coming under some pressure. This sector has not suffered any such reversals in recent times and we need to cherish and nurture it to some degree. For that reason I am pleased to support this legislation.

I accept the legislation is urgent and the Minister is anxious that we pass it before the end of this Dáil session. We will not be able to go into the Bill in the detail that such legislation might warrant in other times. However, I am confident sufficient work has been put in by the official side to make sure this is proofed against any problems in the future. We have to take that on trust, but our faith is based on a reputation that has been well earned by those who are sponsoring this legislation.

As I understand it, this legislation refers to facilitating banks to avail of secured long-term funding by issuing covered bonds and using certain types of assets such as residential mortgages and some of the assets of public sector loans in a covered assets pool and then issuing bonds secured under the covered bond legislation against the pool.

Like other Deputies, I received a note from the Minister for Finance rather late last week to say it was urgent that this proposed legislation would be enacted. The original legislation was brought before the Dáil in the recent past. The Minister needs to tell us why there is a need to amend this legislation already. I accept some measures relate to new moves in regard to the European Central Bank and arrangements in regard to European directives. However, I notice the Minister is also amending the existing legislation. I would be grateful if he would explain what exactly that is about.

In addition, the Minister referred to this legislation having been vetted in some way by the Financial Services Regulator. Again, I would like the Minister to be more specific about what exactly that involves. It is difficult to get a specific and personal request from the Minister for Finance to facilitate legislation he deems to be urgent yet at the same time to get little or no briefing. Bonds are widely used in financial services markets. With depositors and lenders to banks not behaving as they once did in a stable pattern by holding their money in banks over a long period, banks have to evolve different types of instruments to address this.

As with all rushed legislation, the Opposition is obliged to take the word of the Minister for Finance in this case as being his bond. The legislation issued over the St. Patrick's weekend and there has been no opportunity for the Opposition to seek independent advice or to have any opportunity to meet with people from the industry concerned and to hear some independent counsel.

In many ways the Financial Regulator has done a good job but, nonetheless, we heard on RTE in recent days about a subsidiary company of Friends First in which a fraud took place and where the person concerned, who was a director of a subsidiary company, is still serving in that capacity. The Financial Regulator has appeared before the Joint Committee on Finance and the Public Service at various times and informed us in great detail about the stringent conditions which were being introduced to address the qualifications of directors considered suitable to serve on the boards of financial institutions. In addition, he referred to the matter of people serving as senior executives in the banking and insurance industry.

While the Financial Regulator has done much good work, the Opposition and accountability to the Dáil should not be completely taken for granted. We largely rely on the Minister's description of what is involved and his word being his bond in this case. Within the IFSC and related companies, there is much employment available to graduates. This area of the employment market pays well. It is a hapless record for the Government that 35,000 manufacturing jobs have been lost in the past five years. In the context of these huge job losses, it is appropriate that we would support a measure which at least sets out to secure good quality employment in the banking sector.

On that basis, and taking the Minister's word on trust, because there has been no time to get any kind of independent evaluation carried out, I am prepared to support the Bill. The Minister of State referred at the end of his contribution to the great work of the Chief Parliamentary Counsel. If it is that great, why does the Bill need to be amended so soon? The history of legislation rushed through the House in a couple of hours in this manner has not always proven fantastic. With those caveats in mind, I support the Bill on behalf of the Labour Party.

I wish to share time with Deputy Finian McGrath.

Is that agreed? Agreed.

Like previous speakers, I feel that we have not been given sufficient time to examine the Bill in detail. The original legislation was passed in 2001, some six months before dissolution of the 28th Dáil. That all too brief debate was also led by the Minister of State at the Department of Finance and responded to by spokespersons on behalf of Fine Gael and Labour. The degree of uncertainty that exists now also existed then, and there is probably a need for wider briefing on the part of the Department regarding the issues involved in this part of the financial services industry.

That said, the original legislation seems to have been enacted, and is probably now being amended, at the behest of certain financial institutions that have come to operate successfully in the international financial services sector. It seems to have been led in particular by German financial institutions seeking standard practices across Europe. This Bill appears to be a further development of that principle, seeking as it does standardisation with such countries as Australia and New Zealand.

As a concept, it deserves wider inspection. As I understand it, and as Deputy Burton has articulated, the Bill seems to give financial institutions the ability to borrow on the basis of lending in the mortgage market in particular. As we are now in an uncertain situation regarding the property market, I am unsure whether Irish mortgage-holders will be exposed or whether we are allowing international financial institutions operating from the IFSC to benefit from a standardisation of international practice.

In his opening contribution, the Minister of State highlighted that we are governed by the need to introduce certain changes owing to the EU capital requirements directive. On those grounds, not many in the House could oppose the Bill. I share Deputy Burton's concern at the number of changes being made to legislation only five and a half years old that seem to be of a very technical nature. For example, changing the word "compromise" to "include" suggests a slight flaw in the existing legislation not properly explained to us on this side of the House. In summing up, perhaps the Minister of State might explain those grounds.

The debate offers us some opportunity to comment on the state of financial services in this country. I notice that the Irish Banking Federation, representing practitioners who will have to operate under the legislation, has welcomed the Bill. On this side of the House, we will have to take that recommendation very seriously. However, we must also take cognisance of the international climate regarding hedge funds, the stock markets and the international property market in general. For instance, we should take into account the fact that last week's sneeze on the international stock markets was caused by a large number of people defaulting on property loans in the United States. With an economy strongly linked to the success of its US counterpart, that should cause Ireland concern. When discussing legislation of this nature, those concerns should be recorded.

The Financial Regulator has highlighted issues regarding 50 cases of market abuse currently being examined by his office. On the scale of things, that might not be too serious, since he has publicly stated his underlying suspicion that one in every four transactions on the London Stock Exchange is an example of insider trading. When world stock markets are in such a state of flux and we pass legislation relating to financial services, the House must take such matters into account. It is unfortunate that we have not had the opportunity of a longer lead-in time with more detailed examination of the Bill.

The Financial Regulator is now the watchdog for 10,000 financial institutions in Ireland, a fairly frightening figure. Everyone in the House will accept that the job is largely being done well by the body, but there are questions, given the large number of institutions being overseen. Are we getting the resources right? Deputy Bruton asked whether we were getting the balance right between appropriate legislation and regulation that might be stifling. We could have gone into that in greater detail in this debate.

The recent G7 meeting of Heads of Government, of which Ireland is a participant only through the President of the European Commission, recorded unhappiness regarding hedge funds. I do not know whether the Minister believes in international regulation of that market, and the Minister of State may not be able to respond on the growing international apprehension regarding the prevalence and insidiousness of many such funds. I believe that we are getting the balance right in Ireland, but there has been unfavourable comment in recent years to the extent that, without the appropriate level of transparency and regulation in its financial services, Ireland risks being considered akin to the Cayman Islands in international circles. We cannot allow such comments to go unchallenged.

The concept behind this Bill is the German one of Pfandbriefe. Perhaps Irish financial services are now subject to that degree of international scrutiny — ironically, by German political figures on the basis of Schadenfreude. Irish financial services have become more successful over the past three years, and we must present that in the best possible legislative light. If this Bill helps us do so, the Green Party is prepared to support it. However, caveats have been entered by other speakers regarding the need to deal with the legislation properly and have a longer lead-in time. On this occasion, the Government has not allowed us proper consideration.

I am grateful for the opportunity to speak on this legislation. I welcome the debate on the Asset Covered Securities (Amendment) Bill 2007. I always welcome reforming legislation coming before the House, and this also gives us an opportunity to discuss in detail the financial sector, the economy, banking, jobs and investment, which are crucial at this point in our history. It also gives us a chance to put forward new ideas on investment and job creation. We must have a constant stream of new and radical policies on investment, economic development and, above all, creating quality jobs. In this debate, it is important that we focus on such important issues.

We are also at a crossroads. There is much debate and focus on the economy in general. Are we turning our backs on the question of whether we are a society, a country or an economy? This legislation gives us the opportunity to deal with such issues in a most comprehensive manner. I agree with the Minister that it is a quite technical and complex Bill. I hope that the reforms outlined have been carefully drafted in consultation with industry, legal experts, the Financial Regulator and the Parliamentary Counsel. These issues are extremely important as well as very technical. We also have a chance to consider the ongoing effectiveness of an important sector of the financial services industry and the wider economic activity that it underpins. It is a crucial issue because we seem to be obsessed with economic development. We are all in favour of developing the economy but we must also ensure that our economic resources are distributed fairly to society at large.

Ireland was once known as the island of saints and scholars but today, sadly, it is better known as the land of scandals and tribunals. Politics, banking, the church, business, medicine, the law and the Garda Síochána have all suffered from an erosion of public confidence. Moreover, Ireland has undergone rapid social, economic and political change over the past decade, which has had a profound impact on our value systems. At the beginning of the 21st century, the country is fairly prosperous yet this situation can create dilemmas of its own. Difficult decisions about the distribution of our resources raise awkward questions for society. This brings us to the recent outbreak of auction politics. How is the balance between individual rights and the overall good of society to be resolved? To whom do we look for guidance? The credibility of the church, the banking sector, the political elite, the medical and legal professions, and business leaders, has been seriously damaged. We have an opportunity today to examine and debate these issues, rather than sticking our heads in the sand.

The purpose of the Bill is to introduce some necessary technical changes to the Asset Covered Securities Act 2001, to provide greater legal clarity and facilitate greater flexibility in operating some provisions of the original Act. The Bill also includes some new provisions aimed at developing the Irish covered bonds statutory and legal framework in light of changes made in other jurisdictions or in EU legislation. It introduces a new kind of designated credit institution — a designated commercial mortgage credit institution — whose activities will be focused on commercial mortgage lending. These are the issues that fall within the remit of the legislation.

This debate provides us with an opportunity to highlight the problems facing young people who seek mortgages and other loans. Many young people currently find it very difficult to get on the housing ladder. It is a major problem for many people, particularly those on low and middle incomes who are finding it virtually impossible to buy a small apartment or a three-bedroom semi-detached house, especially in Dublin. Many constituents have phoned me about the supply of mortgages and housing, which is a crucial part of a decent and fair society. If people are unable to obtain home loans it is damaging for the country. At the same time, however, many wealthy individuals seem to own several houses and have plenty of personal investments. Members of this House have been involved in this kind of carry on, while young couples cannot afford to buy their first home. It is important to highlight this matter, although I am not a lone voice in doing so.

Last Friday, these matters were raised on the "Late Late Show" by George Lee. It is time for a wake-up call to consider where this country is going. There is nothing wrong in challenging the status quo and proposing new ideas on finance, mortgages and banking. Neither is there anything wrong with challenging those who have misled consumers and, in many cases, ripped them off. I challenge the Minister of State and his Government colleagues on these important matters.

In discussing the development of the economy, we must wake up and smell the coffee when it comes to the issue of jobs. In recent weeks, we have seen job losses in companies that are moving their operations from this State to countries with low-wage economies. As a nation, we must plan for the future in order to deal with such developments. I do not want to see us in a situation where low pay is back on the agenda again. When we are doing our research on developing the economy, including banking and the financial sector generally, we must have creative new ideas to achieve such development. We cannot afford to lose thousands of jobs every month. This is the stark reality that many people are worried about. Members of the House have concerns about big industries in their own constituencies, so it is right and proper to highlight these matters before the situation gets worse. This is not about political point scoring, it is a question of caring about economic investment and the direction of society in general. It is important to support our young people, and young couples in particular, when it comes to dealing with these issues.

I welcome the debate on this Bill, which is important technical legislation. I also welcome any new ideas from any Members on creating jobs and promoting investment.

I thank all the Deputies who have contributed to the debate. As they know, the House is currently coping with a significant volume of urgent legislation and I am grateful they appreciate the need to make progress on this highly technical Bill, which is devoted to a specialised but strategically important niche sector of our financial services industry. I appreciate what Deputy Finian McGrath said. He has been eloquent in his support of jobs but I would remind him that the financial services sector accounts for more than 19,000 jobs. In addition to all the PAYE revenue that arises from that sector, it also accounts for more than €1 billion in corporation tax. Despite the Deputy's other concerns therefore that sector is a major contributor in that regard.

I do not agree with his comments on the island of saints and scholars. I have just returned from South Africa where I represented our country. All they can talk about there is the magic of our Celtic economy, how it was arrived at, and how they could possibly copy our model. Having spoken with other ministerial colleagues who travelled abroad recently, I know that the success of our economy is the talk of the economic world. Therefore, I do not accept the derogatory terms used by Deputy Finian McGrath, which relate to a myth.

It is not a myth, it is a reality.

I have explained the reality as it is regarded outside the country. The Deputy can raise those issues but it is not how the country is seen from abroad.

I wish to deal with some of the other issues that were raised during the debate. Deputy Bruton certainly recognises the importance of cherishing and nourishing the financial services sector. While Deputy Burton raised some caveats, she is also quite supportive of the legislation. I assure Deputies that the sector is constantly dynamic and innovative. The original Act was introduced six years ago in 2001. Due to its innovative nature, some elements did not work as smoothly as expected, so that is why I am proposing these technical amendments.

The EC capital requirements directive was passed in June 2006, so it is important for us to move quickly in this competitive area. Moving early to make such amendments will allow our financial services sector to remain competitive internationally. That is what the Bill is about.

Deputy Boyle raised the concerns of Irish property owners but they will not be adversely affected. The loan-to-value limits on assets in the pool are conservative at 80% of LTV on aggregate. This gives a wide margin of safety to bond holders should the property market slow down. We do not have any concerns in that regard. The amendments we are making are technical in nature, falling into line with the new EU directives. It is all a matter of common sense. Likewise, the amendments have been drafted with the close involvement of the financial regulator. We have received the best legal and technical advice. In addition, the amendments have been vetted and cleared by the ECB which has confirmed that it has no problem with them at all. As Deputy Boyle said, the Irish banking industry has welcomed the Bill.

Question put and agreed to.
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